What is the best way to play Arcanum?
Playing a good game instead of unfinished dogshit
On a PC with a mouse and keyboard
Make sure you patched it up with the fan patches.
Then dabble in a little magic. CUS MAGIC IS STRONG AS FUCK
Is harm spam the optimal way to play the game?
Personally i played it as a dumb half-ogre
Shiny things are funny.
there is no best way but I prefer technology over magic in general, crafting was simply more immersive than spamming Harm as a mage
also when fighting in trivial filler encounters switch to real time combat to end them faster
game starts off slow but picks up when you reach Tarant (which is very early, after the first village)
>>333750554
The game is not difficult in the slightest but there are several ways to break the balance completely and harm spam is far from the most effective despite being memetic. An archer with a pyrotechnic bow or a backstabber with a basic fine dagger deal significantly more damage by themselves
Not OP but can someone give some good beginner builds? I can usually build RPG characters fine but I got really stressed out with this game last week.
There's a spell in the game which lets you literately disintegrate people. Go with that if you want to finish game on easy mode or you don't want to bother with combat.
Does best way mean easiest way?
>>333750962
Just try whatever sounds cool, the game is not difficult unless you're Chris Avellone
>>333751196
I totally forgot about that. Is he going to finally finish his playthrough?
>>333751196
Why is "Human Kickstarter Goal" man such a pleb?
>>333750962
For melee, max dex and melee skill and either backstabbing or strength
For magic, get harm/fireflash and random other spells until your magic aptitude is 100 (teleport is pretty useful)
Firearms/bow/throwing require some effort as they're more reliant on items that aren't immediately available
This has to be the most persistent samefagging since the Girugamesh days...
>>333751403
He just sucks at videogames.
Can't help it.
Making good music doesn't necessarly mean your taste is good as well.
>>333751064
This spell destroys loot
>>333751523
What?
>>333750260
You know what.An army of robot spiders.
Get that one patch which makes guns and technology not as underwhelming as it is.
solo tech thief or charismatic gunslinger
harm is for babies
Anything other than melee is shit and useless.
Easiest way to play might be to just pump up Charisma and Beauty and then just let your henchmen do all the killing.
Arcanum mod built on F3 engine when
>>333751892
They're not underwhelming, the game just has a problem with inconsistant item power progression
Pyrotechnic axe and bow are the most damaging weapons in the game and Droch's Warbringer doesn't fall too far behind, it's just that the bow expert training is much more powerful than anything the firearms training gives
>>333752443
>F3 engine
>>333752397
beauty does fuck-all beyond affecting shop prices via disposition
>>333752443
That sounds godawful.
>>333752443
Stay out of my game faggot
>>333752491
My main problem with Gunsmithing was that if you went all the way to get the actually useful guns you'd lack the stats to use them effectively or at all.
Currently on my first playthrough. I really like it but I'm playing a highly charismatic & smart person who lets the companions do all the fighting. Problem is that they're AI controlled, which doesn't make any sense to me.
>>333750260
direct damage magic is easy mode
melee is normal mode
guns are hard mode
full techno nut is impossible mode
>>333750260
The way you want to.
Also patched.
>>333750260
I played charismatic halfling with melee fighting skills on my first run. It's not a hard game anon, do what you feel is fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftvpi-6Z6qw
When you're going to play Arcanum, watch out if you don't get any scars during battles. For the longest time I had no idea why my party members' reaction kept on dropping over time until I learned that I received a wound during one of the encounters which made them mad. You can treat those by visiting one of the doctors in towns.
>>333752443
How about new Arcanum on the Divinity OS engine?
First and foremost, disable turn based combat.
Second, focus on Melee, Dodge, Force Magic, Conveyance Magic and Necromantic White.
Third, get the Dog.
Fourth, get a Stillwater blade.
>>333752397
I don't think you'll get to have hot homosexual action with that dark elf in the main quest if you're not hot enough.
>>333750682
It makes the combat much less tedious
>>333750260
Boomerang or Harm. Don't get anything else, close combat will fuck you over with debuffs.
>>333752932
I beat full techno nut by spamming Molotovs and running away until I got the glorious lightning rod.
Did horrifying things to my wallet, but it worked.
>I'm looking for the city of Qintarra. It's quite important.
>Qintarra? You seek Qintarra?
>Yes, that's what I said. Do you know where it is?
>It's in the forest. Even a fool knows that.
>I realize it's in the forest...
>Then why are you asking me where it is?
>Do you know where Qintarra is located or not?
>Yes.
>Out with it, man!
>In the Glimmering Forest.
>Yes. I bloody know it's in the blasted forest already, we've been over this. Look, this isn't funny. Where, exactly, in the forest is Qintarra?
>In the trees.
>IN WHAT TREES?!
>The trees in the forest :^)
>>333752559
>>333752590
>>333752730
I just want a new Arcanum game you faggetson fuckers. Suggest me another way to get it? Considering """good""" rpg studios are busy building male power fantasies based on shitty slav books and butchering fallout franchise, there is nowhere else to look except modders.
>>333753031
Looks cool, anon.
>>333752858
the thing with technologists though is that they get a lot of tech-only stat bonuses from their crafted gear and a lot of the crafting skill requirements can be cheated with the books
and by level cap you should still have enough points for all of that unless you mastered like 5 different disciplines for no reason
>>333753398
I'm sick of beloved RPGs turning into third/first person action games because they sell better. I would rather not have it than have the series turn into what Fallout did.
>>333753398Kickstarter
>>333752932
technology is probably the easiest way to play the game if you get the pyrotechnic bow and expert bow training
>still can't get over that mugger who doesn't want to let me cross the road
I suck
Did Troika die because they were overambitious or because Tim Cain is an incompetent businessman?
>>333754050
Just fucking toss a molotov at him or gangbang him with a companion
>>333753478
>the thing with technologists though is that they get a lot of tech-only stat bonuses from their crafted gear
There is hardly any room for other than the required Intelligence, Perception, tech schematics and firearms skill.
>and by level cap you should still have enough points for all of that unless you mastered like 5 different disciplines for no reason
Near level cap you might get a fewextra points to put on something other than those 4. It's ridiculous how gunsmiths have to minmax to be able to use their own damn guns.
>>333754170
Their games sold like shit. And the reason for that is pretty much always awful marketing.
Plenty of bad and unfinished games survived the 90s and early 00s
Real time or turn based?
>>333754050
if nothing else works you can always do the bitch job for him
>>333750767
i remember just harm spamming and the game being easy
>>333750260
get dog
win game
>>333754313
Realtime
>>333754270
assuming you didn't get any background bonuses for some reason to help you with them, 11 points to intelligence, 10 to perception, 5 to firearms, 4 or so to strength to hold the weapons comes to 30.
That still leaves you another 34 points (you get 64 total by level 50) with which you can max 4 disciplines and dex if you count all the item bonuses
>>333754530
It's turn-based though.
>>333754313
fast turn based
real time is a clusterfuck
>>333754050
That is pretty tough for an aspiring mechanical engineer. I just put down a shit load of bear and spike traps and threw them with a grenade from the cave in the starting area.
It took maybe 10 tries but I got those bitches.
who /virgil/ here
>>333754961
ARE YOU BLIND? WHAT IN GOD'S... er, I mean, better luck next time!
>>333754961
More like virgin because he is a fucking pussy.
With a smoking pipe, wearing a smoking jacket. Possibly with a top hat?
>>333754961
I c-can’t believe it! I mean y-you, and…and then the zeppelin, and…and t-the fire!
>>333754686
Oh yeah, Dex needs to also be high on a gunslinger. I'm pretty sure some firearms had high-ish strength requirements too.
I wasn't on my first run and was trying to min max but the points just got spread way too thin for the character to be useful the first 15 levels.
>>333754961
annoying as fuck, i always get rid of him
There are fery few trap choices in Arcanum, most notably beauty, spot/detect traps, gambling and metamagic but even they have some uses if you really want to create some specific roleplay build
>>333753371
>do the bullshit giant quest
>or, he annoys so much that you kill him, give his amulet of Ntala or whatever to the elf healer in shrouded hills
>or use conjure spirit
Literally foolproof contingencies: the quest
>>333754050
>look for railroad spike in trash cans around town.
>drop them next to his half ogre lackeys
>the AI is coded to pick up any nearby items on the ground
>railroad spikes to absolute garbage damage but since the half ogres are unarmed they will equip them anyway
There, now that fight is piss easy.
>>333754842
>>333754313
It's both. Press space bar to switch between combat modes.
>>333755959
>metamagic
Reflective Shield is sooo exploitable. You can combine it with any sustained magic effect to make it permanent.
>get Dominate Will
>make it permanent
>rinse and repeat
>infinite army of slaves
>>333756372
The real-time mode is worse than cancer, it's like watching old black and white slapstick.
>>333756625
Not really, since the combat looks like ass either way. All turn based does is slow everything down and make it tedious.
So THIS is the power of Troika writing... wow...
>>333752443
Formula 3 engine???
>>333756757
I don't get it. What are you sperging about?
>>333756750
Turn-based let's you look at the situation and think strategies and tactics, it's like a strategy game at that point and it's fucking glorious when you execute shit perfectly.
Wouldn't expect a Skyrimkid to understand.
>>333756757
[PERCEPTION] HATE BABIES
>>333756757
The meme that all writing needs to be serious and overly verbose needs to stop. That's when you get shit like PoE with ridiculous exposition dumps.
>>333756757
>>333750260
I have never played this game but I know you're supposed to spam Harm.
>>333754961
I had high beauty/charisma and played as a cute elf girl, so I liked to imagine he was just shy and not used to talking to girls.
>>333756594
I'd rather avoid the obvious bugs though, like with the dark helmet. Meta magic has very little value in a legitimate playthrough because of how little spellcaster enemies there are
>>333757106
With the combat system and character building in this game strategy is entirely superfluous. Your build is either good enough or not.
>>333756757
>>333757317
It's light-hearted at times which is perfect, that's why directors put comic relief characters in their movies, if everything is super serious all the time it becomes mundane and dull.
>>333757002
You're vision
>>333757260
you're reading far too much into it m8
>>333756750
turn-based is the only mode where you can actually properly utilize a vast amount of options such as backstabbing and area of effect abilities
>>333757475
>bloo bloo I suck at video games
Gotcha.
>>333757573
True but you'd get through the fight a lot faster in real time with an actual decent build. The combat never becomes good so why bother with the tedium?
MEME SPOTTED!!!!!!!!!!!! SHIT GAME
>>333757601
>reading comprehension
You lack it. Gotcha.
>>333757746
with fast turn based skipping walking animations it's not much of a difference for me
>>333757504
You the only one being serious about seriousness mate, chill. We are simply enjoying good, lighthearted Troika writing. You made a fair point tho, I agree.
Speaking of Arcanum, what are other games, modern or upcoming, based on Faith vs. Logic theme?Except FFT, I'm not into anime
>>333750260
by opening the .exe
>>333757895
>modern or upcoming, based on Faith vs. Logic theme?
Surprisingly enough: Mass Effect.
>>333757756
who's that handsome fellow with mustache?
>>333757845
You said that you need to have a good build or you are not gonna make it, which is wrong, you can tackle really tough situations and battles with the worst characters if you know how to play your cards right and really think about the combat strategies.
But since you clearly just made the game auto-pilot the fights for you it's natural you didn't know about that, I bet you min-maxed your shit too to get through it.
You sicken me.
>>333757756
post more meme dialogue
>>333756757
Is that guy essentially saying GET OUT OF MY SWAMP?
>>333759573
You do know that meme is not the same thing as pop culture reference?
>>333758539
No, I'm saying that if you have a decent build then you have literally no reason to bother with turn based as it will only make the game tedious for you.
If you like to deliberately make you characters underpowered and require TB to get through the game then go ahead, have fun with that.
>>333760615
I personally find the real-time combat more tedious with how much of a mess it is
>>333760615
But making characters with flaws and weaknesses is the salt of RPG's, I bet you never take negative traits in Fallout 1 & 2 because you are part of the Skyrim generation.
>>333760873
All the fights are over in a matter of seconds. It may be a mess but at least it doesn't waste time.
>>333761092
But that's also true for fast turn-based combat
>>333761084
Fallout doesn't have NEGATIVE traits, they just have downsides as well as merits.
Do I need any fan patches after the latest gog version?
I know I need to go get the widescreen patch right?
>>333761225
No, you don't NEED any additional patches with any of these games yet millennials seem to deem them essential in every discussion regarding them because low resolution hurts their eyes or something
>>333761084
>But making characters with flaws and weaknesses is the salt of RPG's
Only if you're playing with other people. Otherwise it's just something you do when you're out of options for your nth replay of the game.
>muh skyrim generation
Spare me your memes. I've played through Arcanum more times than you've played RPGs in your entire life combined.
>>333761708
More like people say you need them because every cRPG ever has a bug list longer than its manual and Arcanum is no exception.
>>333761806
As someone who played it unpatched I highly reccomend playing it patched.
>>333761084
Nope, sounds like an excuse to cover up poor balance and gameplay mechanics. No one gimps themselves for the ultimate role-playing experience except scrubs.
>>333761806
And all of those bugs are never all getting fixed regardless
It still never ruined any of my playthroughs with it
>>333750260
devoid of intellect
>>333762256
>not enjoying the retard dialogue
>>333761724
>>333762256
Brofist, can't wait for the new TES.
What exactly do you like about Arcanum?
>>333750260
install Terra Arcanum mod
play a tech gunslinger guy with points in Electrical, Smith, and gunsmith
read the books and shit, the lore is pretty gud
>>333759573
>>333764151
It has a very interesting setting where technology has evolved to the point where it starts getting in the way of magic and other old-fashioned traditions, this creates a divide similar to a religion between the people, the world is just really fun and interesting to explore, from story to characters it's all great.
All this is backed by the orchestra that keeps playing this really soothing and comforting violin music, trust me, it's the sexiest music you'll ever hear in a video game.
>>333764380
There are books?
>>333764782
Is that stoneskin or ironskin? Why do NWN2 effects look so ugly.
How the hell do I get to Caladon? I have it marked on my map but I can't find any ship captains. Checked Tarant, Ashbury, Black Root.
>>333767579
Just walk.
>>333767864
Couldn't get past the river in the west side of mountains, or past the mountains from the south
>>333768063
You have to manually set your path on the other side of the river, through the bridge. On the map, you can only go in straight lines, so just draw lines until you go where you want to.
>>333754050
See that ogre in the tavern? get him and have him crush those muggers. Not even kidding that dude will wreck them
>>333768459
I see no bridge on the map, sure you mean that river? Already tried inching along the river in quick travel trying to click across, but no spot worked
