Why is this game already on its death bed? How do we help Capcom to fix it?
>>333726125
>How do we help Capcom to fix it?
Capcuck
You know how you fix it? Put it in a real arcade mode, some more characters and fix that shit online mode.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>333726726
An arcade mode would be nice, but I have to ask, how often did you play the arcade mode in previous Street Fighters? Did you keep playing it even after you beat them once with characters?
To me, I'd play through arcade exactly once with every character and then never touch it again. It should be in the game, but some people act like they only ever play arcade mode and never touch anything else in Street Fighter games.
Because Capcom leadership seems to have genuine brain problems when it comes to communicating with the audience and prioritizing what to fix. 2 months after release and they still haven't even fixed ragequitting.
It's still a fun game though
Make SF x Pokken
>>333726125
I already stopped playing a month ago, and i played 4 pretty religiously from vanilla to ultra.
The game is just kinda meh.
Its not a case of being bad either, i reached gold quite fast despite not playing much.
I just dont "feel" this game.
>>333727624
The game is too RPS for me. And the need to make everything that's not standing completely fucking still a counter hit doesn't help.
They wanted to remove set play but they also removed anything resembling tech and every character plays the same.
>>333727624
Same. You can just say it mate, a lot of people seem to not want to:
It's boring.
>>333727781
>The game is too RPS for me. And the need to make everything that's not standing completely fucking still a counter hit doesn't help.
>They wanted to remove set play but they also removed anything resembling tech and every character plays the same.
I never felt this helpless in pressure in sf4 as i do in 5.
Playing a good footsie game actually feels less important in 5.
18 frame dashes and the huge damage of jump ins is way too rewarding.
Also V-Reversals are mostly bad and even punishable.
mika is fuckin dumb
>>333727624
>played 4 pretty religiously
SF4 was absolute garbage in every iteration. SF5 fixed every issue SF4 had.
>>333727781
make everything that's not standing completely fucking still a counter hit
The fuck does that even mean? Every game ever has had counter hits like this, and special counter hits like crush counter is nothing new. Also, "tech" is being found everyday for every character.
>>333728231
You never felt helpless in SF4 because they give you get out of jail free she like Focus Attack safe invincible DPs. That system was absolute garbage. Play any other game besides SF4, and the pressure in SF5 isn't that bad at all.
Goddamn /v/ sucks at fighting games.
>>333727624
same here it does not offer much expect watching pros play in tourneys
>>333727624
Is this bait? What makes it worse then 4
>>333729239
That the offense is way more braindead like that post exactly describes why.
>>333728949
>Goddamn /v/ sucks at fighting games.
Welp the capcum gurgling squad is at it again.
For the love of christ can we change the quick rise animations? Every fucking game I've played quick rise animations are fine with me. But in SFV and only in SFV they're so goddamn misleading and always seem to end way before you think they will. Every fighting game in existence will give them a few frames with their feet on the floor before they can actually move again except SFV.
>>333728949
>SF4 was absolute garbage in every iteration.
Thats the a total scrub opinion.
Goddamn /v/ sucks at fighting games.
>>333729779
I've noticed this being the case with birdie's get up animation. He can block/act halfway through the animation of getting up.
>>333729723
Just read some of these horrible uneducated posts about fighting games that are made in every goddamn thread. I don't even care for Capcom that much anymore. Mostly because SF4 was so shit. They're winning me back over with SF5 though, because its a much better fighting game than SF4 ever was.
>9th april
>still no march update
>>333730193
Maybe your opinion is uneducated and shit if you apparently never even played fighting games for years and yet still claim to be an expert.
>>333730217
It actually came out on 30th march.
But it still didnt fix ragequitting and was very barebones.
>>333726125
Super SF V which at that point they have no choice but to do, to get a fresh start. Any day now they will announce it watch.
>>333729853
I respect SF4 for reviving the genre, but it is the worst main SF game by far. Its competition, outside the West, did everything better.
>>333730193
>Just read some of these horrible uneducated posts about fighting games that are made in every goddamn thread
I love this "everyone on /v/ is shit at fighting games except ME of course!" meme
The people who post this are part of /v/ just the same
>>333730394
Which competition?
>>333730370
oh wait so i can finally purchase zenny?
>>333727781
>eat three throws in a row because CC is so dangerous
If your character has a decent reversal there's no reason to ever tech on wakeup, that's fucked up.
>>333726125
Remake every asset in the game in a non-vomit style.
My problem is
>look for a match
>but when you find one, your favorite character is chosen instead of you picking from character select
Makes online way less fun
>>333730281
Where did I imply I haven't played fighting games for years? SF4 wasn't the only fighting game out during that time. I've been playing fighting games competitively way before SF4, and I never said I quit SF4. I still played it, as well as several other fighting games, because SF4 is where the money was at, but I enjoyed the other games much more.
>>333730745
> because SF4 is where the money was a
How is that even a relevant factor?
Or are you claiming you were actually so good you made money of the game?
>>333726125
At this point capcom should drop the game (if sony doesn't beat them too it) and start developing SF6 desu.
The only thing to fix is to actually play the game, or to admit that you fell for the hype but fighting games were never for you because you suck at them. Yes, Capcom said even casuals could become good at it. They lied to sell more.
>>333730669
It sucks, but it's not disastrous. I don't know how likely you are to want to play a different character 2 minutes after you make your first decision.
>>333731291
>They lied to sell more.
Oh boy that sure worked out for them.
>>333730620
>buying shit
>instead of just playing the game
I'm glad they don't have bullshit cash shop stuff implemented yet, I'd prefer they cancelled dollar/euro/currency shop but that's not gonna happen
>>333730669
What? First, you can change your favorite character in 2 seconds from the find battle menu. And otherwise, just play battle lounge with character select turned on. The way it works now saves a lot of time.
i hate fighting vegas in this game because the netcode can't handle his dash. he has basically bison teleport dash into grab for free because of lag
>>333731504
i cant get alex's alternate costume without zenny though, so playing it aint gonna fix that.
>>333726125
honestly sf4 didnt really blow up till super so give sfv time needs more characters and content
>>333731429
Big blunder on their part. Not very relevant to people who just want to play the game though.
>>333730669
This I don't understand, it's not like you see your opponents pick or anything.
It's just character select but in a menu BEFORE you queue up
There's no reason to get mad about this
But there's also no reason to not have a normal character select screen
>>333731697
Competitively yes, sales no.
>>333731693
Oh shit, Alex.
Kind of forgot him because I haven't faced a SINGLE Alex so far
>>333731745
If every other technical aspect of the game is anything to go by, a character select screen will probably increase the loading times to even more absurd levels. Not only that but can you imagine these loading times AND having to wait for some asshole to run the clock down on the CS screen?
>>333731760
eh sales are mostly because sf4 was literally the only fighting game that mattered for almost a decade at that point , mkx has the casuals on lock because of the value prop of the title and capcom being crapcom as usual botched it
>>333731697
What?
Vanilla SF4 had 2 millions sales right out of the bat and was a huge commercial success instantly.
>>333730669
I'm glad it's the way it is. Character select would make things take even longer.
But you can turn on character select in lobbies if you so desire.
>>333730931
I wasn't so good that I was winning majors, but I'd still win a couple hundred bucks every two weeks at locals because of how piss easy SF4 was.
capcom must be reeeaall tight on money right now. sfv was a financial flop, fanboys better pray sony doesn't back out.
>>333732080
5 is arguably easier in every single aspect.
>>333727442
i used arcade for practice and when i feel like just playing a match and dont want to wait for a match online
>>333732080
What's the name of your local event please?
More characters, give something new to the gameplay it's already boring to play and watch.
It's probably Capcom's last Street Fighter game. The only reason SFV was made was because Sony helped fund it. The real question now is who is going to buy the franchise and revive it 10 years from now.
>>333732570
It will probably end sf for some years like 3 did.
It's a fighting game, it will always be on its death bed compared to most games. As far as fighting games go it's the least dead of them all.
>threads for this game are slowly becoming less "just git gud faggit" and more "I'm not feeling it anymore"
>>333732806
I can assure you i was saying this since the beta.
>>333730480
Nigger have you seen how low the LP always is in these threads? Of course the majority's opinion is batshit retarded in regards to fighting games.
What's up with Capcom? Are the people in charge incompetent or is there something else going on?
>>333732806
game is fun, but literally everything about playing it online is broken or just really substandard
king of the hill lobbies - fucking why? skullgirls and xrd already showed how good lobbies can be.
>>333733321
remember sfxt, its terrible launch, and the on disc DLC ?
capcom sure did learn a lot from that
owait
they keep scalping you nogs and you keep taking it top kek
>>333733567
What do you mean?
i bet deep down combofiend doesn't like sfv
>>333733842
I still remember before the game as out and anytime he was commentating he almost sounded obligated to say how something "wasn't like another game".
>>333726125
by putting r mika's ass back in
>>333733824
sfxt was released incomplete with dogshit online and glaring bugs.
sf5 with a comparable release in terms of completeness and arguably dogshit online (depending on whether or not ragequitters rustle your jimmies)
tldr capcom cant figure out how to release a game in the 21st century without fucking it up somehow. they are also trending towards dumbing their games down to appeal to all the casualfags who will never buy their games to begin with
They need to bring back my main.
Once they do, this game will be saved.
>>333727514
>Double the dead community for the same price!
>>333732570
>The only reason SFV was made was because Sony helped fund it
I love this meme
>Buy SFV
>it's my first fighting game
>play for 10 hours
>ranked rating is about 950
>feel like a total scrublord
>a lot of my opponents seem to be very experienced and I can't do shit fighting them
>there's never an easy game for me
>ryu, ken, ryu, ken, ryu, nash, ryu, nash, ken, ryu, ken, nash, ryu
>seen chun li only twice because for some reason people only play ryu, ken and nash
>can't relax while playing this game, feel anxious
>stop playing
I'm so fucking bad
>>333734916
Capcom themselves have said it.
>>333734916
it isnt a meme idiot.
>>333730660
This to be honest.
What the hell happened? The sprite games were so pretty, but in IV and V the characters look like a shitty playdoughs where everyone has monster proportions and are in steroids.
>>333732570
EA.
>>333728949
>You never felt helpless in SF4 because they give you get out of jail free she like Focus Attack safe invincible DPs.
It's true that throwing out a DP and FADC to save your ass from a big mistake wasn't the most compelling gameplay, but SFV doesn't give you any defensive tools except for the very punishable and expensive v-reversals. Mashing a move out of block will get you killed.
SFIV may have gave you braindead defensive options, but at least they were good options.
>>333735057
Play Alpha 2.
It is fast paced and will let you learn the fundamentals.
>>333735118
>>333735134
It is a meme you fools. Read the actual quotes from Ono and that other Capcom guy, they literally never fucking said that at all.
Free to play
>>333726125
As someone who is shit at fighting games but enjoys watching streams of pros play SFV is boring as fuck to watch.
>>333734071
The biggest problem with SFxT and MvC3's launch was on disc DLC
>>333735348
>SFIV may have gave you braindead defensive options, but at least they were good options.
SFIV went far beyond that. Crouch tech OS and shit like that pretty much gave every idiot a get-out-of-jail-free card. I much prefer SF5 in that department - even though watching Bison hit buttons for 5 minutes when you're stuck in the corner gets somewhat tiring.
>>333735057
You might want to play outside of ranked, it might make you less anxious, and you should see more than ken/ryu/nash. But getting to 950 in 10 hours of playing fighting games is pretty good, I think. You shouldn't feel discouraged.
>>333735720
>I much prefer SF5 in that department
So no teching at all because 4 throws is still less damage than one counter hit?
>>333729853
Tons of prominent players despised 4.
Awful game
>>333731871
You make a good point
>>333731853
Have you not been playing? I've fought a lot just this weekend.
>>333735348
>very punishable and expensive v-reversals
That exaggeration just to try and make yourself not sound dumb as all hell. Please tell me how v-reversal is *very* punishable expensive and expensive.
>>333735870
Those are the same people that said that SF5 would be a new start for themLOL
Their fixing has fucked shit up even more
You got the pre-jump frames being changed from 3 to 4, in order to break the upback/throwbreak/anti-meaty wakeup option select. But now you can make most special moves airborne by inputing up then doing special move so command grabs are rekt.
Also if you pick Alex, the the other players character is reverted to version 1.1 somehow. No one noticed and tournaments have ran with this bug as well.
>>333732008
vanilla sf4 was also available 1 year or so earlier in arcade iirc
>>333735720
There's crouch teching in SF5 you clown
>>333736125
There is an OS, but it isn't even close to as effective.
>>333735997
Your point?
>>333728949
>You never felt helpless in SF4 because they give you get out of jail free she like Focus Attack safe invincible DPs
That went both ways too, you could also use meter to extend combos. Plus this is supposedly the "vortex game", the kind of shit you can't reversal out of and even then you still had more options.
>>333736217
They're opinions don't mean jack shit. The people that liked SF4 are the same people that have shown to have actual transferable fundamentals.
>>333726125
The game is fine, now stop making these bait threads.
>>333736125
Crouch tech option select doesn't exist in SF5. The closest thing you can do is an option select to get out of normal meaties and meaty throws on wake-up.
Oh capcom what happened to you?
>>333730660
Absolutely this honestly
Every character could at least use some touching up, and at most a complete rehaul (Ken, Vega)
And the fucking clipping is disgusting. God I can't wait to play my superior limb-based Tekken 7
>>333732806
/v/ doesn't play fighting games. They just like to stir shit up and bitch about stuff even they have no intention of playing. Keep in mind this is a type of game where every mistake that is made is on you, so you can't blame it on a retarded teammate. People get frustrated because they think they are godlike but in reality they suck and they can't come to grips with that fact.
>tfw capcom wont support the dlc characters past season 1
>tfw ono is probably getting fired
>tfw this could be the last street fighter
But we were supposed to get Ingrid eventually
>>333736740
>all that shitpost
Its always a waifu fag shitposting. Ingrid is literally who of fighting games. Nobody gave a shit about Alex in 3s yet now we get tons of people saying how he was their favorite character. Same shit with Karin and R. Mika, meme characters.
There reason to play a character that doesn't have some sort of massive CC combo.
WHERE THE FUCK IS ANY NEWS ABOUT THE APRIL UPDATE CAPCOM
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY GUILE
I'LL SEE YOU GUYS APRIL 31 I GUESS
>>333736998
>April 31
>not May 7
>>333736442
Not as long as they keep getting to bump limit they wont
>>333736956
>there is no reason to not
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0n097mqGSwR
>>333736010
Oh wow, what the fuck???
>>333737289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LprGwvuASCY
>>333726125
Build a time machine and go back to tell them to not release an unfinished game?
Armored moves need to be CC able on recovery
Play real video games
>>333737572
>game has a strong grappler presence
>strong command grab presence
>make command grabs absolute shit
Sasuga Crapcom
>>333736740
What? She isnt even a sf character.
>>333737572
It's funny how almost every move shown here when blocked can be punished with said command grab. Which is a hell of a lot easier than the other way around.
Capcum needs to get their shit together and bring out features that casuals like before EVO since they are probably hoping for another surge of purchase from that event. If they dont its going to be dead like gg
>>333738224
>mfw pcfats think Steam numbers are relevant in any regard
l o l
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>>333736998
is this a problem? like, it will be 1 month from Alex, and the next character 1 month from then. The only period of being upset was that Alex took so long to happen, but after that it cannot be anything other than a flat month, which is exactly what was always the intention.
>>333737867
But you can only play Tetris so many times before it gets boring.
>>333736998
Hes coming out July 4th anon
>>333738219
Now imagine doing it with an armored move and see how many options it covers.
>>333738461
Doing what with an armored move?
>those buttmad user reviews will never go away
>those early reviews will never change
SFV is fucked. Even if they added in everything that everybody wanted, made the game 100% free, and gave away blowjobs with every purchase, it would still not move units. an amazing screw-up, really it was.
>>333738397
Stop being a corporate apologist. It's unacceptable that we haven't even gotten any news about the April update, not even a teaser, and it's nearly a 1/3 through April already.
I know the Crapcum defense force will just say "Well IV took a few iterations to catch on," and what does that say except Capcom will never learn from the mistakes and will continue to make decisions contrary to their fans' desires
>>333737572
>input throw too early
>doesn't connect
>input throw too late
>doesn't connect
is there a problem I'm not seeing here? That's how it should be, yes?
>>333738709
Their PR department is fucking awful. Like, one of the worst I've seen these past couple of years.
>>333738747
It makes the move throw invincible like a jump.
>>333738461
The jump install. Now you've got something that eats throws AND normals. And for characters that don't normally have good reversals.
>>333736010
Remember when they said they were literally not going to change anything from the release date till after the Capcom Cup finals?
And then they did and broke the game even worse?
What a fucking shitshow
What happened to the Lobby/Tournament Mode threads that used to happen in sf4? I wanna play some of you faggots.
>>333738709
is it though?
is it really unacceptable? Is it?
so if they released everything on the 15th instead of the 30th, just bumped it all up 2 weeks, that would fix your complaints? Think about this, is that REALLY the problem here? It would still be 4 weeks between each character.
Let's get to the bottom of what you don't like - you want the characters FASTER than once-a-month. And that's fair, they should've been there day 1, but say what you mean.a teaser trailer doesn't cause content to happen earlier, and your desire to be marketed to instead of waiting for a product to drop and then make informed decisions is unsettling.
>>333738891
I think they said no major gameplay updates. Whether what we've seen applies for that or not is up to you.
Are there any legit fighting games that are less dead, though?
>>333738930
/v/ only got into that because after 6 years SF4 became dirt-cheap and finally had enough characters for even the most jewish anon to think it worth his shekels.
Remember, for casuals, roster size is 80% of their reason for liking a fighting game.
>>333728949
>SF5 fixed every issue SF4 had
And created issues where SF4 had none.
They need to make a super edition with more characters and features, that always worked out!
>>333726125
>tournaments larger than ever
how do you define dead
>>333739046Smash
After trying for hours to find a single lag-free match, I gave up and uninstalled. Been playing USF4 and having a blast.
>>333739187
they said they would never do this with 5.
looks like they will have to.
>>333728949
>and the pressure in SF5 isn't that bad at all.
What are you talking about, they look like MMA matches. You dance around for a while then someone lands a spear and they ride their opponent and the momentum to victory.
>>333738979
Well it definitely made the game worse.
>>333739187
>fighting game comes out
>60 bucks
>that's cool, but if it had more characters and was half the price I'd get it.
this happens with every single fighting game without fail, what the fuck is wrong with you people
Are fighting games just inherently low-value games to you?
>>333739195
you're an idiot.
>>333739313
but doing that hurts their user-base and doesn't sell. That's the whole reason they stopped, because that model is outdated and ineffective in 2016.
>>333739390
answer the question, nigger
or is Melee a dead game, too? hasn't seen an update in over a decade! NOBODY playing it online! haha ded game amirite
>>333739415
Except you were getting characters for cheaper in 4 than you are now. And you never had to worry about going over to a friends house and not being able to play your character because he didn't buy them.
>>333739482
Melee is evidence that a good game can stand the test of time. Brood War lasted a long ass time too.
>>333739345
SFV has 16 characters man. Most people don't have their mains yet. That's all.
>>333739482
global sales of SFV is less than <500k.
now run along little capcuck.
>ragequitters everywhere
>capcom cannot think of a proper punishement for this kind of scum
That's my only problem with the game. If they fix ragequitters, the game will balance its leagues out, allowing everyone to enjoy more balanced matches.
>>333739975
You don't have a problem with crippling lag?
>>333739195
Much like how smash always has inflated views at evo because it runs into marvels time, SF5 is currently riding the existing FGC for it's tourney numbers. But with sales being so bad and people being given no reason to think it will get better how will they grow or even maintain them?
>>333739975
Just let us pick matches again. Then instead of relying on a shitty and worst of all SLOW AS FUCK matchmaking system you can just avoid them.
>>333739661
>no juri yet
>no guile yet
>no ibuki yet
>Alex instead of haggar
Fuck I'm bored. I love fighting games like some jerks love metal or horror movies but there just isn't much here for me.
>>333739975
This is one of the few moments where I wish developers would just steal from each other instead of saying "Our version of 'X' must be done in a completely different way than everyone else." Just take KI's ragequit system (rage-quitters get paired with rage-quitters,) and call it a day. That and don't let me run into people 2 leagues ahead of me.
>>333740036
not really since you can decide your connection status. I have it at 4-5, and so far i've had good connection in my matches.
>>333740152
That would be a lot better than the crap that was given to us. If anything, they should (but wont) add this as an additional option. Then again, you have people like WorldCombo who would abuse this system.
I'm amazed capcom didn't have the foresight that people will RQ if they can get away with it.
>>333733507
The way there's a bracket around the current players makes em think they will be multi-matching lobbies in the next few months.
>>333740562
It should have been delayed.
>>333726125
>mfw finally reached silver rank
Im moving on up lol
And it took a little luck of not getting swarmed with silver gold and platinum players
>>333740047
Pot bonuses and the fact that while the game sold like complete shit (Estimated under 600K all platforms retail and digital worldwide), the tournament community were the ones who bought it and filling it up.
>>333741024
You're just peaking anon, you'll be back to 1.5k in another hour of playtime.
>>333741116
Sony didn't invest a metric fuckton of money to have the small pool tourney players get all the dlc for free with there 100k hours. They want a big playerbase and they don't look like they'll get it.
If pot bonuses meant shit Starcraft 2 wouldn't be where it is now.
>>333741394
Sony reportedly spent a "Retarded" amount of money on exclusivity they will never see back. They are going to try everything to sell it.
>>333738942
Lol why do you feel the need the need to suck Capcom's cock?
I paid $60 for this game under the assumption Capcom would give a fuck about any of the things they have A. Failed to deliver and B. Refuse to fix (ragequitting, having a transparent release schedule for DLC characters so people can actually get hype, lobbies kick you for no reason still (i play on ethernet), and all the aesthetic issues on top of that.
>>333741574
I hope they spend another retarded amount of money on Shenmue 3.
Street Fighter V is kind of ugly. Something about the graphics don't feel right. The main menu also sucks to look at. I guess the fighting is okay. IV feels better
>>333726125
By waiting for Guilty Gear:Revelator or KoF14
>>333741665
No, they got everyone else to spend a retarded amount of money on Shenmue 3 for a game not out till 2018. Yu Suzuki even said the contribution was so low it's not even timed platform exclusivity. They might just open up funding again for NX and Next Xbox versions after E3.
>>333741907
The graphics look like they're made by people who've never played SF in their lives desu senpai.
>>333742090
And then Tekken 7, and then TxSF, ....
>>333741182
>he thinks im not going to sit on the rank untill capshit give us proper matchmaking
I remember this one time where i as an ultra bronze player got matched with a platinum rank karin.
I rage quit and gave 0 fucks about it.
In casual matches and lobbies rank shouldn't matter and you should be able to fight whoever, but during ranked matches where points are on the line, their is absolutely no reason i should ever encounter anyone outside of my rank staus.
Untill then ill stick with lobbies and casuals to learn and get better
>>333742524
>2018
The end of 2017 is their self imposed deadline. More power to them if they open up funding again.
I don't think the game will be recieved to well on initial launch though, I think a lot of people expect Shenmue 3 to finish the series, which it won't.
>>333740493
>not really since you can decide your connection status
I've been on 4-5 and got teleporting Ryus before.
And it's ALWAYS a Ryu.
>>333743436
I'll trade your teleporting Ryus for my teleporting Karins
>>333730620
They did that on purpose, so you can waste all your FM on stupid shit.
>>333741116
Source?
>>333738942
That doesn't even make sense you faggot
Literally every modern fighting game has trailers for its characters waaaaay before they drop.
I love SFV but Capcom's PR team deserves to boil in a vat of oil
