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why is this allowed
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>>333617307
Because you're a cuck that uses Steam
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Because you fell for the PC Gaming meme.
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>buy physical PC game
>DVD strangely only has 50MB of data on it
>it downloads the whole thing
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>playing souls games on pc
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>>333617674
>19fps
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>>333617307
PCucked

>>333617405
/Thread
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I remember playing the first dark souls nearly a week before launch because the store didn't give a fuck and gave it to me

my PS3 also didn't care and let me play right away

shame didn't get to experience this with 2 and 3 since I didn't even get the game nor plan to
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>Playing new releases on the PC
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>>333617846
>hackers
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The steelbook is really meh btw. It barely closes.
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>>333617846
slowmotion is the only way noobs can play
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This. Fuck i miss physical copies and hate steam for games that i won't be playing with frienda
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>>333617972

This is the literally the same argument as "stop playing games on the computer you're causing viruses".
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Uhm, what happens if you insert the disc?
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>>333617556
did PC never switch to blu-ray?

and either
A) whole stack of DVDs
B) downloads
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>>333617458
>I-I like being locked to an expensive pseudo computer
>e-exclusives and having brand loyalty are good things!
>I need my options in life limited or else I'll get overwhelmed :((((
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>>333618116
Basicly tells me to go fuck myself
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>>333618212
Oh, I thought that was with the steam code. What the fuck. Does the game force you into using steam?
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>>333617972
>everyone is a 1337 hacker
>everyone uses hacks
>theres no security against it

Babbys cant handle someone killing you?
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>>333618195
Sure but can you play Dark Souls 3 right now? That's right, you can't.
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>>333618212
wait until release lol
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there will be no preload?
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who here /shipped/?
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>>333618261
Yes it does, like most physical copies. You get an install wizard as old games did, but with Half Life 2 sound effects when you click on it. Then it ends up with a pop-up directly from Steam to enter your code, it adds it on your library and then tells you it's not available yet
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>>333618195
>petition signing intensifies
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>>333618370
Im also not an impatient child

Technically you're happy because there'
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>>333617882
I got to do that with Dark Souls II. I'm calling my local store today and tomorrow to see if they got their copies in since I discovered they'll sell early with the above game. The only ames i'v been unsuccessful with are Nintendo games they seem to time the shipment to the night before kinda crazy well.
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>>333618170
sure took forever to even stop using cds

>buy game
>there's 10 cds in the box
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>>333618425
>/shipped/
>not in every single store in town
>collector editions not already at home
Where do you even live
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>>333618482
a loophole that lets you get the jap version and that's it**
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>>333618442
I had no idea, haven't bought a physical PC game in lots of years, that's kind of messed up desu.
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It isn't even going to have pre-load is it?

Fucking japs.
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>>333618479
I bought Demon's Souls, owned a PS3 for DaS.

I also have a PC for the endless stream of games both old and new at my finger tips.

A wii u for all the other games that are even worth playing.
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>>333618594
It works exactly as a Steam code, you may have all the data on the discs in some cases. I'd say 50-50 between data on disc and download the whole game anyway
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>>333618594
physical PC games pretty much don't exist at all anymore

many of them just come with a downloader and no game data, it exist pretty much only for retailers to be happy and keep selling game

pretty much only reason to get physical is if you want goodies that come with it
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>>333618692
I bet you do.
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>>333618482
>I-I don't mind waiting a few days/months/years for a game while Gaben fucks my asshole!
PC Gaming in a nutshell.
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>>333617307
get shit on suka blyat
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>>333618846
Sure do sweetie, I hope you're enjoying your miserable day of waiting for the next day to come on the endless ride of your useless life.
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And this guy is laughing at my face
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>>333618919
>actively waiting
>not passively waiting for all things and finding inner peace
0/10

Also it has nothing to do with s
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>>333618979
Ain't got time for this, there are 3 discs in there
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>>333619126
>being a cuck
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>>333619028
Getting this salty on a Chinese movie site
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>>333617307
>want to play memesouls
i'm sorry for you
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>>333618425
Did the US only get the Day one edition? Because I can't find that version in any european store
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>>333617307
>Buying From Shitware games
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>>333619238
>being a memelord shit poster
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>>333618195
>I like being locked to an expensive pseudo-computer

if you only use Steam, what is the difference? Meanwhile if I, a console user, got the game on a disc a little early I would be able to play it without issue. So which of us is locked down to anything?
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I'm really shocked this has a physical version. Companies don't seem to give much of a fuck about doing that anymore
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>>333619426
>physical version
>it's literally a disc that downloads the game via steam
can you really call that a physical version?
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>consolefags
lol

pc has too many buttens
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>>333619373
>if you only use steam
If
If only

Also the difference would be that I could still do whatever I want otherwise outside of steam. Be it emulating, pirating, GoG, etc.
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>>333618442
But the data is all on the disc? You don't have to download the main game files, only patches?
I might get a physical version anyways if that's the case, my internet is awful.
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>>333619498
>it's something you can hold in your hands
Yeah I think so
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>>333619498
So the games not even on it?

wewwwww
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>>333619563
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>>333619426
I buy physical copies all the time
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>>333617307
Already enjoying my english PS4 copy. Enjoy your PC cancer
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>>333617307

Why is this allowed?
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>>333619845
>bioshit
>castleshittiest 2
>dmc
>batman
Im sorry
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Why do people even care, apart from the title it has shit all to do with Dark Souls, totally different team and everything
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>>333619845
>I buy CD Keys all the time

FTFY
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>>333619667
You'll have to download the day one patch as usual. Since there are 3 DVDs in the box, I guess you won't have to download too much on April 12th
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>>333617972
>playing games at ~15fps is better than easily avoidable hackers
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>>333617307
Because you're and idiot who bought not knowing what you were actually purchasing.
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It's always hilarious to see piraterace buy a single game in ten years and being utterly baffled it requires Steam

I don't remember the last game I bought that didn't require it - which is why I only buy console gamds
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>>333619948
DMC wasn't that bad, the 3 others were disapointments (LoS 2 still hurts)
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Why is this allowed?
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>>333618261
>Does the game force you into using steam?

All steam exclusive pc games force you to install steam, and make a steam account. Been this way since 2008 far as I can recall.

Other companies don't force you to install their DRM selling service though. I got the Modern War Fare 2 on pc and Cryostatis. Witcher games on physical pc don't need downloads other than patches too.

Anything Steam or EA will need their DRM selling service though.
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>>333620009
Alright that's good, thank you. I'll probably buy a physical copy then, I like to have something to put on the shelf, anyways.
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>>333619919
>people will buy this
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>>333620127

Royal Rat Authority is worse.
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>>333619845
When I think of it, most of those games were mediocre. I guess I could burn them
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>>333617846
>He still thinks the fps problems are only on consoles

You sad, uninformed retard
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>>333620204

Even if you want to ignore the fact that this was the "Big News" or "Gamer Merch" Even ignoring those things, go look at the store and look at some of the desgins. They're completely terrible, doesn't really give a Dark Souls vibe either.

Most of it's just meme spouting.
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>>333617307
>there are people on /v/ who got their ds3 pc version early but can't play it because lel pc gaming

And here I am enjoying my PS4 Apocalypse Edition. Enjoy your wait PC friends.
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>>333619426
Because if your internet isn't complete and utter trash there isn't any reason to own physical copies anymore. You don't even get nice fucking booklets with them any longer, just one piece of paper about a t-shirt, the latest mouse, or something stupid.
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>>333620119
I know that feeling. Of the countless people who hated LoS 1 I thought it had a lot of potential and they just ruined any momentum they had.
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>>333620204
I've already bought some stuff
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>>333620127
I wish that whole hole area was better.
They had a really great concept and pretty much squandered it.
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>>333620553
The soundtrack was amazing if that's of any comfort
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>>333620081
>blanket statements!
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>>333620547
PC physical copies do have a lot of pros though. I would not buy them if they didn't
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>>333620204
Not sure why you care
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>>333620584
I wish that the whole whole was better.
They had a really great game series and pretty much ruined it.
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>>333618802
Also physical copies are usually cheaper than on Steam.

And I wonder if this is the same in the third world or in Australia. If you have a 2 Mbits line with a data cap you probably don't fancy downloading a 30 GB game.
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>>333618040

That's because it's a shitty off-brand steelbook, Dark Souls II had the same problem, you could also bend the steel on the spine if you opened it more than 90 degrees or so.
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DARK SOULS 3 PRELOAD IS UP
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>>333620747
What are the pros?
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>>333620876

No it's not.
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>>333620851
Yep, I checked, these are the same shitty designs
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>>333620842
>really great two games
Not really.
DeS had a lot of problems and DaS is literally half-finished.
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>>333620547
>Because if your internet isn't complete and utter trash

Well I have DSL
If I can get a physical version of a game I do it.
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>>333620914
Yes, it is.
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17.2 GB
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>>333620913
>pre-order bonus printed inside the box
>cheap and often on sales
>good editors do include a few worthless goodies
That's more than enough for me really.
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>>333620452
dark souls 1, 2 and 3 run at 60fps on PC

dweeb
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>>333620914
It actually is.
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>durr the games not on it

But it is, you still need to go through steam to verify your key and get the patch but that's it. The games on the disc you retards
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>>333620914
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>>333620845
the same applies to people selling steam codes

it's just from being a 3rd party, doesn't have to be physical

those physical copies can't even be resold either way since they're tied to a steam code as well, it's just a piece of plastic with no value
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>>333621176
How did you play it today reeeeee hackerrrrr
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>>333621176
>DS3 deluxe for 70 at GMG
>no keys until release date
meh
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>PREORDERING.
everyone itt is a faggot.
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>>333621270
The official resellers where you don't risk Valve taking away your game aren't that much cheaper.

And the number of games requiring Steam isn't that big in the grand scheme of things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_using_Steam_authentication
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>>333617307
lol

lolololo

but yeah, this shit is fucked
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>>333619043

I kinda like that hoodie.
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>>333621434
Huh? It's not like people are doing this blindly.

Everyone has literally seen the entire game played already, (or can if they wish to) everybody knows all about it, people preordering have just decided they like what they saw.
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>>333618170
I doubt that people who built custom PC even bothered with CD/DVD/BluRay drive to begin wtih
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>>333621494
Among the boxes I purchased last year, only Witcher 3, GTA V and SC2 did not require Steam. They asked for their own DRMs tho
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>>333621630
pretty sure those people wouldn't even be buying physical copies, so it's not relevant
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>>333620987
>flaws=not good
All things are flawed. As a whole, they are great games each. To say otherwise is just dumb, just like how beating the whole thing and then saying how easy it was or is, is retarded.

The second half is weaker in DaS but still memorable and better than most of what 2 has to offer.
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>>333620462
Memers buy more clothing and shit. Casual audience is where the money is at.
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>>333621434
There are physical copies in every single store. You can just grab it if you want one, whatever the platform you play on
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>>333621434
The game leaked weeks ago, it looks fun.
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>>333617307
What happens if you exits steam and destroy internet and then tries to install game?
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>>333621339
Try contacting them and saying you need a key in order to preload it, unless you already tried that
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>>333621630
I forget I have it all the time.
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>>333621616
I dont need to watch vids. I know how From works better than you do. They've been doing the same shit since kings field and armored core.

Aka: constantly rehash and recycle assets and entire bosses.

I'm willing to bet that DS3 is a mishmash of bloodborne and DS2 assets. They prolly reused Smough, since they already reused Ornstein in 2, and they know they cant pull off that recycle again.
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>>333621710
I do. The two things are : a lot of people do not know about them and in some countries they have no pros (from what I saw they have no purpose in the USA for example)
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>>333621630
I just keep a cheap external drive that I switch between hardware as needed if I need it for random misc stuff like installing a game
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>>333621807
It tries to install Steam
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>>333621710
Why would they switch to bluray when most of the games produced are simply a steam installer with a CD-key? For the ones with an actual data they can just make multiple DVDs, which would be more efficient and cheaper
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>>333621867
I actually can't tell the different between DS3 screenshots and DS2 ones.
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>>333622029
so that they would have all the game data and be possible to install without downloading the whole thing?
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>>333621867
Don't worry, most people will pirate it.
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>>333622029
>>333622119
and companies don't want to print a whole slew of dvds, that's why they go for downloads instead
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>>333617307
because you bought a license to use a game rather than the actual game
will pcfats ever learn?
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>>333621867
>rehash
Not used right
>recycle
You mean games that are sequels and in the same world tend to have lots of old things and lots of new things.

You just use salt to keep yourself from doing anything at all and I bet you're shit at parties.
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>>333622071
Thats because there most likely is none.

How do you think they keep shitting out these yearly rehashes?

i'm pretty sure i saw them recycle the Amygdala in DS3
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>>333622119
Which would still require an activation on Steam anyway, so why bother? Steam is the essential part of PC ecosystem for the publishers
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>tfw PC gaming will never be as great as it was pre 2010
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Is this game worth $41?
Hesitating because I'm a poorfag.
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>>333622119
With day one patches being the norm it's never going to happen anyway
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>>333622237
Here come the fromcuck apologists.

>i-i-its the same world so its ok for them to completely rehash assets, bosses, mobs, environment details and textures.
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>get console game early
>Can play it whenever

Master race am I right :^]
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>>333621630

>tfw shelled out for a bluray burner
>in the end it was just an old habit from previous builds

And yet I always omit drives when I build for other people.
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>>333620127
A boss fight where rats endlessly respawn from the ceiling. As if you need more proof of what a woeful misstep DaS2 is.
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>>333622380
get a job
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Am I the only one who hates multiple path games with no map?

It always makes me feel like I missed something
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>>333618170
Separate blue ray drives are pointless on a PC

DVD drives became irrelevant once you could install Windows 7 on a USB and boot from it.
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>>333622425
Two was absolute shit but it wasn't because they reused assets which btw isn't necessarily bad.

You aren't oh so more aware than everyone else and we all just don't know how "lazy" this and that is. It just doesn't fucking matter.
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>>333622017
could you upload the english readme please.
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>>333623449
http://wikisend.com/download/291960/Readme_en.txt
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>>333623345
>literally being a pathetic apologist

>i-i-it just doesnt m-m-matter

Souls is no better than asscreed at this point.
No, fuck that, asscreed is better, it doesnt blatantly reuse the same assets over and over
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>>333623631
thanks. is there a EULA on the disc by any chance?
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>>333623781
The EULA is probably integrated in game like in DS2
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>>333623345
>It just doesn't fucking matter.

How can you be so complcenteating a companies shit
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>>333620845
>>333618802
It really pisses me off, I live in the US but I get shitty 3rd world dl speed so physical was pretty much my go to. Now I basically need to devote a couple days to download anything. The last big game I bought that came entirely on disk was GTA V which was on 7 cds, Totally worth it since it was done installing in about 2 hours vs the 3+ days it would have took me to dl.
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>>333623781
No, not even on the game manual. It's the usual Steam EULA on screen when you install the game
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>>333617307
is this loss?
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>>333623919
you're probably right.

>>333624029
thanks for checking.
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>>333621174
While true, Das 1 was terrible at 60 fps
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>>333624152
The only real difference was because gravity/jumping was tied to frame rate meaning you couldn't make certain speed run jumps to avoid shit in 60fps mode
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>>333620081
People who pirate have choices and freedom, buying legitimately shouldn't be disadvantageous, it should be the other way around. There's no downside to pirating most games these days and publishers just give you more incentive with every release with their bullshit DLC and awful buggy games without demos.

If I wasn't forced to use Steam, I wouldn't pirate a lot of the games I normally would. I fucking hate Steam, it exists to turn PCs into a locked down console-like platform the end user has little control over.
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>>333621339
I got the deluxe for 55 at kinguin. Still have to wait though.
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>>333620547
>Because if your internet isn't complete and utter trash there isn't any reason to own physical copies anymore
Actual ownership of the disc? Might not own the data on it but the disc is mine an I can do what I want with it. Fuck Steam, I don't have to get amazons permission every time I want to play a game I bought from them.

The only advantage digital offers is convenience, nothing else about it is better for us and is only beneficial to the publishers bottom line. They're phasing out physical games even on consoles because it's better for them to sell downloads and they can police and micromanage the games you bought more effectively. It does nothing but hurt us.
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>>333617307
wait which faggot country needs a 18+
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I couldn't possibly be angrier. Never doing business with Amazon ever again if it doesn't end up in my hands by next Friday.
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>>333624843
Call those fuckers
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There is a lot of data on those discs...
The entire game is just there, lying on my desk...
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>>333624779
>Actual ownership of the disc?

So?
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>>333622119
But then they can't force you to use Steam and download the whole thing, silly
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>>333624843
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>>333624929
Already went over it with customer service a couple weeks ago. Not only were they unable to do anything to change my shipping situation but they refused to even explain why I was getting hit with this bullshit in the first place.

All I have is a promise from some random customer service peon that they'll call the distributor/carrier or whatever and tell them to expedite my shit. But honestly, that sounds like a load of bullshit they feed to people to make them shut up.
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>>333622304
And that's why I pirate, fuck steam.
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>>333624779
>Fuck Steam

You still have to go through Steam though..

>they can police and micromanage the games you bought more effectively.

Well they can still do that if you bought the disc. You're not doing anything mate you just like having something you can touch.
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>>333625062
Good luck reinstalling a game from Steam after Steam is dead and gone. Don't kid yourself, it will happen one day.
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Should have gotten it at Best Buy, if you have their 20% off new games thing that thing would have came out to be just $104 with shipping that puts it in your hands on day one.
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>>333625186
So how long am I gonna have to wait for a crack?

was gonna buy it off Greemangaming (16% off + 20% voucher) but they just bumped it up to full price and you can no longer use the voucher.
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>>333625407 for >>333624843
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>>333625407
>just $104
wait what. I hope you're talking to our canadian friend
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>>333625407
You're fucking retarded. There's no way something that costs $169.99 would be $104 with a 20% discount.

Anyways, it's never about retailers of choice with collector's edition you dumbass. Amazon was the only place that still had PS4 Collector's Editions.
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>>333625454
>he's poor
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>>333625531
whoops didn't look at his type of currency, but he would still get 20% off that if the membership is a thing in Canada
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>>333625407
>paid 55$ for base and season pass
>GMG has it for like 70
>this mother fucker is excited for paying 104
the fuck is going on here.
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>>333625403
I'll be here to say you were right come 2060.
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I saw battlefront at Walmart the other day it literally said on the box download only no cd included or something like that.
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>>333617972
>not playing a souls game in offline mode
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>>333625454
Doesn't it have Denuvo?

If so for fucking ever cuz crackers be lazy fucks now.
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>>333624843
Amazon is shit for preorders. They used to be good, but then they just went shit with no reason given.
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>>333626287
what sticker?
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>>333626240
its never had Denuvo.
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Please anwser : Are you from russia ? or do ALL apocalypse edition DS3 games come with russian on the box art ?
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>>333625671
CanadPoor reporting in.

>that and I am afraid my PC cant run it.
>i7-930 / gtx 970
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>>333626705
You're not going to be happy anon but...
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>>333626705
>>333626929
The back of the sleave is in english, there is zero text on the box itself
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>>333617307
how many Gbs/CDs?
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>>333626240
Nope!

So what are we talking, like a week?
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>>333621630
This pretty much. I built my new PC recently and my optical drive is just sitting in a drawer. I haven't used it in years, even though I have a collection of PC games and DVDs. I just could not be bothered to connect the thing and screw it in, that's how useless they are today.
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>>333627116
3 DVDs for the game
1 CD for the soundtrack
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>>333626895
are you joking or do you mean at 4k?
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>>333624152
>Das 1 was terrible at 60 fps
Why do you speak out at all if you've no idea what you're talking about?
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>>333627116
>>333627204
The first two DVDs have like 9 Gbs.
The last one only 4 or 5
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when should I play this for best experience?

it's availvable thuesday midknight for me but I'm obviously not gonna get up until like 8:00

should I start right away or go for it afternoon?
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>>333627171
If it doesn't have Denuvo there will be a crack within an hour of someone getting their hands on the PC files.

If it does have Denuvo, never ever.
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>>333617307
>playing ahead of street date
lol get fucked m8
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>>333627268
No I mean I don't know if it can run it. I am not tech savy and have a first gen i7 cpu. Can I play it at 1920x1080?
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>>333617556
yeah, it was like that since i bought L4D2 at least

put the disc in and it just opens steam and dl's the game

remember when you had an installer and you could play the game in about 15-30 mins instead of downloading for 2 hours?
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>>333626293
>>333624843
>>333625090
>>333624929
>>333625476
EB Games had a few collector's editions for sale on their website just now when I checked. So now I've got one of those coming with 1-2 day shipping. Hell, I even get a special bonfire keychain as a promotional item.

Fuck Amazon. Fucking shitheads
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Anyone have any experience with uk gamesplanet? game is 20 euros cheaper and I'd rather not give in to valvejews, but i'm a little uncertain
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>>333628440
yes. you can play it. a 970+ decent cpu will max settings almost all current triple a games.
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>>333617405
>>333617850
these.
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>>333617972
>defending 15fps + hackers + subscription fee
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>>333629005
Neat keychain too.
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>>333619257
Namco owning this IP was probably the worst thing to ever happen.

They are easily everything wrong with Japan gaming and the Activision of their region
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>>333629049
Thanks Anon.

I just assumed my cpu (i7-930) was ancient and would bottleneck my graphics card.
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>>333629453
Namco not owning this IP would mean no Dark Souls game at all you schmuck
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>>333620127
That was fun and incredibly easy. Like a fucking gib pit. Jump in and cut through rats like wet tissue paper. If you like, you can even ignore the fucking rats and just go after the very obvious actual boss and kill him in 2 hits.

Idiots.
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>>333629016
Bought from them for the first time, like ten minutes ago and received my key instantly. Does also seem to be a legit steam reseller, according to leddit.
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>>333629575
>Namco made Dark souls
>Namco making anything post pac man
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>>333628512
You mean with consoles? PC used to have 4+ discs that you needed to install to play.
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>>333629504
you might be a little bottlenecked but it should be playable.

here is your processor versus the minimum from the steam page:
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-930-vs-Intel-Core-i3-2100

here is your processor versus the recommended from the steam page:
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-930-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3770


you can probably do it but you should consider overclocking. you meet the graphics recommended.
hope this helps
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>>333629016

Do it nigga. I just activated my deluxe edition after ordering it from them right now.
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>>333621630
I have a BD drive on my PC but I rarely use it
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>>333629998
>http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-930-vs-Intel-Core-i3-2100
Thanks again! Long may the sun shine!
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>>333617972
>pvp minigame
>500ms low tickrate servers
I'll pass thank you
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>>333619845
>castlevania 2
my nigga
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>>333620127
You're complaining about that? That was fucking fun and pretty absurd.
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