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PS4 sells more why?
>Bloodbourne
or
>Meme magic
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Memes aside, I really fucking hate the PS4's controller.
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>>333604790
Weeb games.
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People bought the PS4 because they hated microsoft
or because they actually wanted weeby games?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw
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>better games
loving every laff
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PS4 has better 3rd party support
super retarded Xbone launch strategy (TV TV SPORTS TV, DRM, ALWAYS ON KINECT)
weaker hardware but more expensive (thanks bundled Kinect)
xbone's weak 1st party support (hey Rare, make Kinect shit, 434 make shit Halos)
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>>333604887
SPOTS
SPORTS
TV
TV, TV,TV, TV
TELEVISION
TV,TV TV EXPERIENCE

CALL OF DUTY

A DOG

TV
TV
TV

What if Don Mattrick was paid by Sony to fuck things up?
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>Made in America

Literally only Americans are stupid enough to be convinced into buying garbage because it was made in their own country.
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>>333604790
>xbone
>PS4
>games

HAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAH
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This might be a retarded question, but I never owned a ps3 or 4, but Could I use my Xbone controller for the ps4 if I use a plug and play or no?
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>Better controller
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As always, it's all down to their marketing. Sony simply knows how to market their products well, spending billions on ad campaigns. They're the only one the market their hardware so vigorously and it pays off in the long run.
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>>333605024
Is anything made in america any more? I thought they shipped all the manufacturing overseas because brown people work cheaper.
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What if this guy was paid by Sony to fuck things up?

>PC gamers actually buy indie games and MMOs
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>>333604790
Microsoft repeatedly shot themselves at the foot in the beginning of this generation.

Shit like DRM, mandatory kinect, no way to resell games or that awful reveal event left such a bad impression that a lot of people migrated to PS4 even though none of those "features" was implemented because of damage control.
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>>333605123
and Xbone launched first, so Sony could pull that "you share games by physically passing your friend the disc" slapdown
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>>333605123
Remember the weird PS3 ads? I think it was made by evil jews to this day
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Post yfw >western "games"
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>>333605116
Nah, bone is way better, especially build quality
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>>333605267

The announcements were made shortly after each other and the features known before the launches. The winner was decided during the reveals, not the launches.
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Tak Fujii

Who allowed this guy on E3 2010?
Or
Who gave him cocaine, meth and marijuana before that presentation?
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>>333605186
I got a xbone without kinect. Was only a few months after launch too. So you didn't need one to play anything.
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It sold better because it had better hardware for those that cared and MS shot themselves in the foot so hard with the reveal that they're still damage controlling the system to this day.
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>>333605439
This. Inmediately after Microsoft got burned people were literally preordering PS4s immediately. Little did they know they'd be waiting another 3 years for some games.
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>>333604790
very few people bought a PS4 Bloodborne anon. It's a niche game and certainly isn't a system seller. Stuff like the Destiny exclusives and everyone waiting for UC4 would be better reasons
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>>333604790
Because it is objectively the better console
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>>333605040
then stop begging for ports cuck
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>>333605714
>owning a PC

LOL????????
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>>333605585
Not him but that's not the point, the point is that during E3 2013 Microsoft fucked up so hard that people were sucking the cock of everything Sony said, so much so nobody noticed at the time that PS+ was mentioned to become mandatory during the presentation. It doesn't even matter than MS backpedaled on their shit, the damage was done and Sony dominated by simply not being retarded. This sums up why this gen is hot garbage.
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>>333605159

No but they enter the US as an american product even if the chinese made them.
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>>333604790
wasnt xbox that weird system that spied on you?
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>>333604790
damn... you convinced me op.
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The truth:

Without consoles, PC gamers would be stuck with indie and MMOs
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>>333604790
I guess this is a shitposting thread, but hey why not:

- Microsoft shot itself in the foot with these aweful conferences in 2013. Their reputation hasn't recovered since.

- Sony has a history of succesful consoles and a good brand, so they naturally attract a lot of people with the name "Playstation" alone

- Their marketing was fucking brilliant. All this nostalgia pandering to the end of the 90s and start of the 00s is exactly what the people love at the moment. They reminded people of their nostalgia for the first and second playstation and it worked.

- They also played the #4theplayers card good. Basically, the signalized to everyone: If you want to play "real" games, come to us. No TV bullshit, just games. Of course this was just marketing, but it worked.

- Japan hates dirty americans and their Huegbox and europe has been Playstationland for a long time too, so Sony had good cards there to begin with. The only place where they really have to "battle" is in murrica

- They hype up shit like shenmue, FF7Remake and so on as exclusives, even if they come out on other plattforms too. But they present them on their conference so people see it as a sony title.

- There are some good games coming. Third partys and exclusives. If you are a weeb, Playstation is pretty much your only choice if you want to play everything and don't want to wait for PCports.
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>>333605872
And 4x games, and strategy games, and simulators.
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Because Sony went on the offensive when Microsoft was announcing their "no used games" and "always online" shit, and it worked like a charm. Not to mention Microsoft marketed the Xbone as less a gaming machine and more an entertainment hub, which Sony also attacked on. Sony was the "hero" after all that, and Microsoft will probably never recover from that during this gen.
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>>333605585
>Was only a few months after launch too.
that's half the problem, they fucked the launch.

Unless a person is reading game shit regularly, most won't notice the changes to make it "more attractive" as a product.

Most normies buy the cheaper one for some AAA brand (CoD, Fifa, etc), then all their friends buy the same one to play with them, etc.

waiting a few months is an alien concept, unless it's bought as a Christmas/Birthday present. If it wasn't, everyone would just buy during the sales because they could always get a price reduction.
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>>333605585
Mandatory kinect was one of the many shitty concepts they quickly scratched when people got mad.

The damage was already done at that point though. No amount of damage control would have helped them recover from the advantage they gave Sony by merely announcing all that bullshit.
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I love my Bloodborne machine
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>>333606000
>>333605872
and FPS
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>>333605946
>There are some good games coming.
I find this point the funniest since one of their marketing slogans this gen is "Greatness Awaits", like even they're aware there's little to play yet but they know fans will (and, especially with all the E3 2013 preorders, have) buy early despite higher costs for...actually I don't quite know the reason.
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>>333604790
Do you honestly think exclusives sells consoles?
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The Show
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Anyone who says PS4 sells because of weeb games or Bloodborne is downright delusional.

It sells because of marketing, and because Microsoft let the Xbox brand crash and burn. The tail end of the 360's life was all about Pizza Hut apps and Kinect shit overstaying it's welcome. Meanwhile PS3 has games like The Last of Us with insane marketing and paid reviews giving the Playstation brand a lot of momentum.

The PS4 reveal happened before the Xbox One reveal, and it was not a great showing. A lot of people had questions and were underwhelmed by what was shown off. Microsoft had an outstanding chance to one-up them, but blew it hard. DRM, mandatory Kinect, no used games, people didn't like that. The biggest offender was the always online Kinect camera that sent a wave of fear across the internet.

Seriously, nobody bought the PS4 because of the games themselves. They bought it because it's popular and the other guy isn't. If people were buying consoles for the games, Wii U would be a lot more successful.
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>>333605946
Good post

Not bait :)

Off-topic: I think Sony is so lazy naming their re-releases.

Last of Us Remastered
God of War Remastered
Beyond Two Souls Remastered
Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remastered
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Bone had the worst possible reveal so everybody jumped over.
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>>333604790
Weeb games was the reason for me to get a ps4, i don't care about western trash
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>>333606246
I think it's good.

I don't want to know some game I think is Nth in the series is just a remaster.

Though last of us "remastered" is a bit of a stretch.
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>No hate thread
>image contains insults towards one side only

Ok then.
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>>333604790
Bloodborne sold like 2 million copies. Microsoft and Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot and gave the 8th generation to Sony.
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>>333605946
You is right. Microsoft fucks itself.

But is sad to see the PS4 win a generation without doing absolutely nothing in 3 years, mainly because the Xbone had greatly improved.
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there are some fucking idiots that they say they wont buy a ps4 cause pearl harbor
you can't make this shit up
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>>333606315
What this anon said
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>>333606240
>The PS4 reveal happened before the Xbox One reveal, and it was not a great showing.
But that's wrong, the Xbone was shown first in E3 2013, with Sony's conference coming after and mocking Microsoft's fuck ups.
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But then the BIG IMPORTANT question is

How come Don Mattrick & Team fucked up so bad in 2013?

1) They did on purpose

2) They are literally retarded people

3) They never played any game since 1992
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>>333605545
Hi.
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>>333606315
This. Now post more Homura.
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>>333606315
Holy shit, look how fucking pointy those elbows are.
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>>333606213
Third partys. I know, many people on this board don't want to hear this for some reason, but there are lots and lots of people don't really give a shit about a perfect framerate or 1080p in every game and are happy with the console releases of third party games. Just think of all the people that only buy their battlefield, cod or FIFA once a year. Or even the people that play only the latest AAA-Blockbusters.

If you count third partys in, you have a lot of games worth playing for the PS4. Most people buy a console as their only system, not as a second system to their high tier PC just to play the console exclusives.
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>>333606000

>Endless 4x and strategy games
>No scrubs allowed

MAKE IT SO
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>>333604790>>333604790
>Better game
>Halo but nothing else
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Sony was going to pull the same bullshit Microsoft attempted with XBO with PS4. They lucked out that Microsoft announced their new console first, so after viewing the backlash made changes without the public knowing.

Sony is not your friend. They'll fuck you, just like Microsoft, if they think they can get away with it.
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>>333606563
>Third partys. I know, many people on this board don't want to hear this for some reason, but there are lots and lots of people don't really give a shit about a perfect framerate or 1080p in every game and are happy with the console releases of third party games. Just think of all the people that only buy their battlefield, cod or FIFA once a year. Or even the people that play only the latest AAA-Blockbusters.

I play games since 1993 and I don't care about frame rate

I mean, 90% of the time I don't think about the frame rate, only if it drops REAL BAD like 8-15 FPS
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>>333606431
I dont understand. Really, I dont fucking understand.
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>>333604834
It's pretty shit compared to the DS3
I've had the DS4 for 2 years and the analogue sticks are already worn off, but the DS3 which I've had for 6 or so years is still perfect condition
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>>333606563
But those third parties exist on 2 other platforms, sometimes 4 since some are also released on the previous gen.
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>>333604790
Bbbbut hate is all I have...
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>>333606616
Good point

I didn't buy the Sony hype and I thought those powerpoints were made 2 minutes before the show
>NO DRM
>USED GAMES
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>Xbox
>made in America

*made in China
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>>333606431
part of MS' attempt to save itself from drowning

rise of tablets, no real need for new PCs (emailing, Word, streaming video hasn't needed new hardware for a while), free Mac OS X updates, Wii dominance previously, even Linux in big government shit, put pressure on them to perform

so they tried a lot of retarded strategies, including the whole "consoles are the new TV". DRM probably a push from developers and streaming content shit (same reason HTML now has DRM standards), shit deals with EA draining money, etc
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>>333604790
better product
/thread
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>>333606665
>sells
>exclusives

The most of people dont buy consoles because of exclusives. Bloodborne sells only 2 million and is the only decent exclusive, and was released in last year. In 3 years Sony dont launch nothing and sell a lot.
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>>333606665
>>Ace Combat 7, Bandai Namco, PS4 Exclusive

NO ONE OTHER THAN ME AND YOU CARE ABOUT ACE COMBAT 7
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>>333606665
You might want to remove those redundant [embed]s before you copy and paste that next time.
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>>333606665
>it sells because of games that largely aren't out yet
>it sold like hotcakes during E3 2013 because of games that didn't even exist yet
I know you want to stir this into a games debate, but marketing is far and away the biggest push for PS4 sales
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>>333606676

>It's pretty shit compared to the DS3

a..are you actually serious anon? I can't even tell. The DS3 was a disaster, it was too small and the R2+L2 triggers were garbage (hey let's make a backwards trigger, that makes sense!).

>and the analogue sticks are already worn off

I have no idea what you people do to your controllers, I've had mine since October 2014 and it's in fine condition, and that's even after additional use on my PC.
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>>333606861
>The most of people dont buy consoles because of exclusives.
>3 years Sony dont launch nothing and sell a lot

They don't have to be released yet, nigger.
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>>333606665
Yet none of these games will sell half as much as the multiplat AAA shit western publishers release.
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>>333604790
>why do people play weeb games its not fair american games and consoles should sell fucking weebs why would anyone want to play weeb games I dont understand fuck weebs

You don't belong in this industry and you don't belong on this website.
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>>333604790
I have yet to find a single Xbox One game I want to buy.

I don't know a single person who owns an Xbox One.

I don't know of any Xbox One games I want to buy.

Meanwhile I have well over 25 PS4 games and keep pre-ordering new games as they're announced since they keep interesting me.

Also the DualShock 4 is objectively and by far the single greatest video game controller created by man in the year 2016. Shame about the underpowered console but Gen 9 is not so far away.
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>>333606694
Sure, this is right. I just wanted to say that for many customers, they only have to decide between consoles. Nintendo gets kicked out because they don't have third partys, so it's pretty much MS vs Sony. MS fucked itself over this gen, so it was a easy win for sony. All they had to do was not threatening their costumers with shit like new special DRM.
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>>333606974
Oh yeah, the people buy a PS4 to wait Sony exclusives. A lot of people that are playing Call of Duty and Fifa are just waiting these games. Dream more.
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Lots of good comments on this thread

See? It's not that hard /v!

We should do more in the future :)
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>>333604887
What a shitshow.
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>>333607048
>Sony fan also preorders games
Why am I not surprised? You eat up hype and advertising like nobody else.
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>>333606867
You're not alone
Buddy
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>>333605946
/thread
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>>333607240
It's worse than people who pre-ordered DOA Xtreme

(With all due respect, that game SUCKS. I'd pay 5-10 dollars nothing more)
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>>333606790
might as well slap Trump's name on it
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>>333604790
This is probably one of the most shitty b8 pics i've seen in this shithole and that's saying something.
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>>333606867

You're not alone Buddy

Please let AC7 actually be good and revive the series.
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>>333605024
>Literally only Americans are stupid enough to be convinced into buying garbage because it was made in their own country
Nah
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Yeah, sony took 3 years to get going, but there's a good 5 or 6 ps4 exclusives coming out this year that I want to play. Can't say the same about xbox. They blew their load in the first 2 years, and fucking everything other than halo (shit) is on the PC I already have
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Why would the PS4 make my girlfriends son retarded?
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Microsoft went from hell (2013) to heaven (2014)

I don't know why people didn't like their E3 2014

It was 9.5/10
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>>333606000
>And 4x games, and strategy games, and simulators.
I feel like it was an eternity ago after good 4X game.
What are good simulators now?
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I'm never buying your shitty western box no matter how many marketers you send here microshit
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>>333607397
Nobody in this thread cares about whatever the pic even says, you can tell without even opening it that it's lazy bait. Instead, anons are trying to discuss the topic, you probably should too.

>>333607574
It's about fucking time the PS4 started getting games. Greatness really does Await, hopefully the upcoming titles are good.
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>>333607627
However I must add sony did 11/10 in 2013

And probably people will remember for the next 50 years
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>>333606890
both are relevant
both marketing and games
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>>333607627
Damage was already done, people dont forget why they get angry at something even if that something already fixed that bit
also:
>Inafune
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>>333607727
They didn't really do anything themselves, the whole thing was mocking Microsoft's cock-ups. It'll probably go down as the sickest burn in PR history, but as a presentation it was very mediocre.
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>>333607004
sad and true
so many plebs out there
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>>333607691
Elite.
American Truck Sim.
Silent Hunter 5.
:^)
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>>333607594
If you beat the ugly little redhead with it I'm sure it would make him retarded.
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>>333607762

I remember...

To be honest, I didn't care so much about DRM or used games

I was kinda worried for used games but not so much

But the hate on the internet for Microsoft was incredible.
I started to get paranoid about DRM and Kinect spying.
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>>333607739
I didn't say otherwise; only that marketing is most important (especially these last 3 years)
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>>333607574
I agreed. Sony have nice games to 2016 and Microsoft has released good things and dont imrpove your sales. But they have Scalebound that looks really great.
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>>333604790
Sony has the Call of Duty audience simple as that.
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>>333604790
>better games
lmao
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I think the always-on kinect bullshit and used games -bullshit hurt the console's reputation too much being so close the the launch.
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>>333604790
sonyggers buy multiple copies of the same game, wouldnt be surprised if they did the same with consoles
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>>333608021
>I have FOUR PS4s
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>>333604790
MS shoot themselves in the foot before release and they are still hurting for it.
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>>333604834
It's actually my favorite PS controller. What do you find wrong with it?
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>>333604790
1. Xbone's Interface unlike PS4's (although still kinda wack) is beyond shit.
2. Weeb games sale.
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>>333607762
>Inafune
Oh yeah, he did announce an exclusive last year, I wonder if it is already struggling with budget
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For 1 year all I cared was Kinect spying (privacy, etc) and DRM
I even started to use Ubuntu

But then I came back to the glorious Windows 7 (I love this OS)
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>>333605714
I can only think of literally 2 games of both those consoles combined that i would want to play.

And thats killer instinct and Bloodborne and the first one already got ported.

Thats literally all of their games i have an interest in.
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>>333608319
>Windows 7
Does Windows 10 still try to force it's shit on you?
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>>333608419
I deleted the update(upgrade) icon

Never got that message again :)
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>>333608419
>Does Windows 10 still try to force it's shit on you?
someone put out a tool to kill Win10 update shittery (despite MS continually shifting it round a bunch)
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>>333608319
I'm legit curious, why do people care so much about the privacy stuff?
I thought most OS already sent data anonymously for marketing purposes.
Its been like that for years, why has it become such a need to avoid this now?
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>>333608975
It's just a boogeyman meme from the /pol/ side of /g/
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>>333608975
I don't know
I remember getting paranoid the days/weeks after the E3 2013 show, that's when I started to read stuff about it

I never trusted the freedom fighters 100% or the giant companies 100%.

But for some reason I got the "fight for privacy" fever
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>>333608975
>I thought most OS already sent data anonymously for marketing purposes.
not really, not at an OS level

more for bug/crash logs.

People care for a couple of reasons, at least one of which is control over your system.

the Win10 upgrade is like 3~4GB download, and will do it to Win7 even if you say you don't want the upgrade (or might do it later) etc

throw in shitty countries with capped downloads / data, etc, you don't want your system blowing it by shoving your private conversations off to the cloud.
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>>333604790
it's a better console. With MORE games. better sharing features too.
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>>333606616
Sony actually leaked "rumours" about PS4 not letting you play second hand games and they already have a patent for that technology, but since everyone's reaction was negative even before the Xbone's conference they quietly pretended that it never happened.

I bought all Sony consoles, but I was going to pass on the PS4 if they went ahead with it.
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>>333608975
>>333609187

Actually I don't remember "OS always send data for marketing purposes"

I knew I could have open ports, etc, but not sending data for marketing
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>>333609187
>>333609349
>>333609439

Thanks for the info!
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By the way, Microsoft tried something different with Sunset Overdrive

Why it didn't work as expected?
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>>333604790
>implying I'd rather support the fat brutes south of me

even if I did care about that, Sony still made the better console regardless.
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>>333609642
sunset overdrive was so fucking bad
its like they made it for those who drink monster energy drinks
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>>333609661
Even the Wii U is better than the PS4, I certainly got more gaming hours out of it.
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>>333606665
Wow anon impressive list of games of 0 games that I can play on my PS4 at this moment.
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>>333609758
Shill you are not selling me a Splatoon machine.
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>>333609720
Who drinks monster energy drinks? the 14 year old anarchists?
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>>333604790
xbox is just shit, and sony is the only other console
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>>333609758
yeah, nahh. I got rid of my Wii U a couple months ago since I never used it. remember though, it's subjective, because the types of games I enjoy you may not and vice versa.

Gamecube was great, Wii U doesn't offer anything new that I didn't already experience on my Gamecube.
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>>333605108
you'll need an adapter mang
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>>333604834
PS controllers have consistently felt cheap and uncomfortable in my hands. I'm not sure why that is exactly, but it seems like it was designed for tiny robot hands not the hands of a normal sized human.
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>>333609901
>Who drinks monster energy drinks? the 14 year old anarchists?
exactly the target audience of this game
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>>333610306
Speaking about adapters. The jews at Sony made me want to gas them when I connected the Dual Shock 3 controller to the PS4 and it displayed a message indicating that it recognized it but that it wasn't compatible with the console.
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>>333609820
wow impressive copypasted shitpost
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whats wrong with the ps4 controller?

Only ever had ps 1-3 and never got the chance to try out 4.
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>>333609862
>>333609975
Well I've spend 60+ hours in 5 different games for the system alone. PS4 has all been ports and multiplats so far, maybe I would like it better were I a weeb or souls fan.

>>333610505
Not him but don't you see the irony in saying that when that list was obviously copypasted to begin with? He even forgot to remove the [embed] buttons
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>>333604790
As a person who owns both PS4 and XB1, I have no fucking clue as to why the PS4 sells more. The Store has no games, and I there aren't too many games I'd want to buy.

However with that being said, i prefer the DS4 over the Xb1 controller.
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>>333610463
at least dualshock 4 kinda works on ps3
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>>333610505
I don't need to copy-paste to get a 2 line post, are you a fatass who thinks typing 2 dozen words is strenuous or something?

And ironic of you to call me out on copy-pasting when you didn't even bothering removing all those [embed]s in those youtube links.
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>>333610732
>Not him but don't you see the irony in saying that when that list was obviously copypasted to begin with? He even forgot to remove the [embed] buttons
the difference is that i copypasted game trailers
not shitposts
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>>333610732
>were I a weeb or souls fan

Oh, that explains why you can't find a use for it.
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>>333610693
It's objectively better than that shitshow that was Sixaxis/DS3, but it's still mediocre due to unused gimmicks, a poor battery life, uncomfortably-placed triggers, and early model's sticks wear down.
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>>333605024
South Korea, maybe.
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>>333610910
Yet most of those games actually aren't out yet
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>>333610905
>>333610910
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>>333610912
>>333611065
You're right, you're not a shitposter, you're a shill instead. Why else would you hype up a system using only games that aren't even out yet?
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>>333611065
>>333611007
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>>333610732
if you stopped assuming everyone has a gaming PC you'd realize sooner that those multiplats that PS4 has are what sells the console.

PS4 is objectively the best console to play whatever hot new releases there are. Wii U doesn't offer anything outside of Mario/Zelda/etc.
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>>333611007
another copypasted shitpost
bravo
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>>333611147
Are you doing this on purpose to make the already bad sony community look even worse or something? What exactly is your aim here?
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>>333611124
Dumbfuck, I'm not even the same guy that you are quoting.

And I'm being honest with the Wii U Anon, if it wasn't for weeb games and Souls, I wouldn't have bought a PS4.
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>>333611139
>hot new releases
>he thinks recent AAA multiplat trash gas been good
All I'm saying to that is thank fuck for piracy
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>>333611241
kill yourself shitposter
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>>333607708
>Nobody in this thread cares about whatever the pic even says, you can tell without even opening it that it's lazy bait

Yeah i know, i was surprised that people here didn't fall for it, i was expecting lazy trolling in this thread.
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>>333611316
that was sarcasm you dolt. I don't care about what you pirate in your 3rd world country either.
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>>333611336
/v/ is a lot less susceptible to shitposts in these hours.

>>333611413
Dude what?
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>>333611413
Consider

xbox day 1 costs 10-20$USD in south america (english, same as north american release)

PS4 15-25$USD

Digital releases of course.
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>>333605872
Only if games remained niche
Indie games would probably have a better good/shit ratio if it was the only platform too
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Remember the Xbox 360? Remember when it red ringed and they pulled shit like denying people free DLC and all that shit? How their warranty expired for a better version? And remember how PS3 was still behind that terrible customer support and poor localization of that magnitude for fucking YEARS? Because everyone remembered RIIIIIDGE RAAAACER and the horrid opening sales strategy.

First impressions are everything, and the Xbone walked in by falling headfirst into a pile of shit with their used game debacle, the price being higher than the PS4, and generally botching their E3 promo with bugs and sound loss. PS4 just hasn't shit in the coffee afterwards, because no one cared about the initial sets wobbling a bit (remember when shills tried to make it WOBBLEGATE? God, that was retarded, meanwhile the first Xbones ate CDs with a goddamn Predator noise), and most people still get multiplats on PS4.
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>>333611501
>/v/ is a lot less susceptible to shitposts in these hours.

Can confirm.
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>>333611543
what's your point? food and other living expenses are much cheaper in 3rd world shitholes too, but you also make a lot less money.

Consider this, I'd rather live in a safe country, because there's not a single cunt in South America that's safe. Especially not that shithole Brazil.
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>>333611759
I'm not saying it's an advantage for brazilians anon

I'm saying it's a good deal for people who live in USA and europe to buy games online from south america (Argentina, Brazil, Chile)

:-)
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>>333606240
>If people were buying consoles for the games, Wii U would be a lot more successful.
Except nobody likes Nintendo franchises besides fanboys, excluding Zelda and Pokemon fans.
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>>333606969
Stop defending sony's shit controller. They break easily (analogs) due to CHEAP manufacturing, and suck ass in most games due to its bad design.
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>>333611913
>Except nobody likes Nintendo franchises besides fanboys, excluding Zelda and Pokemon fans.

I enjoyed Super Mario 3D world, Hyrule Warriors and MK8

but that was it.
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>>333611847
I still don't see the reason you replied to me in particular in the first place
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>>333611932
It's the best controller that I've used in years, and I'm someone who dislikes both the Sixaxis and the DS3.
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>>333612004
I don't remember
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Microsoft fucked up and Sony took full advantage of it and got ahead at the start. Then it's just "popular thing will become more popular" magic. If your friends have a PS4 you get a PS4, if PS4 sells the most you get a PS4, if everyone owns a PS4 you get a PS4.

Normalfags buy consoles for multiplats, so Bloodborne isn't too relevant, sure exclusives might influence the choice but ultimately the average "gamer" wants to play GTA V.

Weebs will always go to sony regardless, but they're actually quite rare and irrelevant to a consoles sucess as the Vita proves it. Sure they buy enough to warrant more weebshit but when it comes to breaking sales records it's all about normalfags.
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I remembered

It was about piracy and shit
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>>333611913
>>333611975
How would you even know whether you'd have enjoyed the games if you didn't try them? Some of them even have demos available
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>>333607470
>>333606867
LA LA LA listen to our beautiful love of AC
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>>333604790

It was the better console at launch.
It was the cheaper console at launch.
The libraries are virtually the same.

In the end, gamers follow their communities. They get what their friends get, and that means that whoever has the best launch will generally turn out on top for the first few years until people get around to buying both.
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>>333604790
> Why
> Implying Bloodborne is the only good PS4 exclusive

-Launched at same price as XBone without a shitty DRM scheme.
-Strong lineup of PS3 re-mastered games for people to catch up with.
-More promising exclusives on the horizon, lose nothing with multi-plats.
-Xbox 360 had failure issues, so MS lost its reputation.
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>>333604790
The Xbox One cannot recover from the shitshow of its initial reveal. Hopefully Microsoft never pulls that shit again.
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>>333612238
Bayonetta 2 = Hysterical, too much focus on her butt, too much cut scenes, too much music

I finished the game but sold 24h after for 40 bucks

Actually 35$
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>>333612167
>Microsoft fucked up and Sony took full advantage of it and got ahead at the start. Then it's just "popular thing will become more popular" magic. If your friends have a PS4 you get a PS4, if PS4 sells the most you get a PS4, if everyone owns a PS4 you get a PS4.

I think this is more true than ever in today's online-centric video game environment.

In the days of SNES v. Genesis or PSX v. N64, you'd rather your friend have the different system because then you can go over his house to get your fix.

Now multi-player is mostly done online so you have to have the same system.
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I remember after 3-4 hours I just wanted to fuck Bayonetta 2 because they would show her tits and ass on the cut scenes

Fucking japs perverts
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>>333612518
>too much focus on her butt
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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>>333612518
So just like Bayonetta 1?
FWIW I got the Bayo1+2 bundle and played them back-to-back. Bayo 2 is literally more of the first game but with tighter level design, although it's a tad easier as a result.
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>>333612654
Yes, Bayonetta 1 her haircut made her look bad

I like women with short hair
fucking japs
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>>333612708
I enjoyed Bayonetta 1 more

I have to say the hysterial boss screamings on Bayonetta 2 almost made me play on mute
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>>333605159
Only overpriced novelty items. Theres no profit in mass production in the US because we still have some semblance of labor laws and its not profitable to do so. Occassionally a TV or something will sah "assembled in the us" which means a factory in california or southern US full of indentured mexicans assembles it before they are deported snd replaced with another wave of them for good appearances
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>>333612795
>I have to say the hysterial boss screamings on Bayonetta 2 almost made me play on mute
What the heck are you talking about
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>>333604790

Because spycam PR disaster
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>>333612969
That's why USA needs Trump anon

XBOX MADE IN USA
XBOX GAMES MADE IN USA
STEAM CONTROLLER MADE IN USA

I can't stand with this China quality anymore
And those poor chinese slaves are getting more fucked up because our merchandise.
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>200 posts later
>thread is not deleted
>meanwhile civil Idolmaster thread about the games deleted
FUCK THE MODS
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>>333608225
It looks like two throbbing cocks. It feels like garbage can material plastic. Dual shock analogs are inferior due to the functionality being autistic. Real men use Xbox controllers. Big hands not the Asian baby hand syndrome controller.
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>>333613010
I don't remember well

it was after you find the white hair boy and have a beautiful city that looks like Veneza, from there there are 2 or 3 boss that screams and have too much noise in you
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>>333613175
Because shit like idolmaster belongs on /a/ or /vg/
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>>333611597
This.

Even the most generous of markets barely show sales for exclusives, especially exclusives people like to wank over like Bloodborne, even mildly matching the sales of the hardware over all. People by PS4 to play the multiplat of the month, not for any exclusive. And they buy the PS4 as their multiplat machine because PC's seem expensive and/or kind of a hassle, the Xbox is still playing marketing catch up after that disastrous E3, and the WiiU is basically not even in the same competition any more.

Multiplats and being the least shit of two options is why the PS4 is selling.
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>>333613303
And console wars shit doesn't even belong on 4chan. Fuck off with this shit.
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>>333613175
>idolmaster

What are you complaining?

Every thread that have jews/behind the industry tricks are deleted whithin 20 seconds
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>>333613281
I don't recall any bosses screaming at me. You sure you played the game?

>>333613359
I'd love that to be the case but it's what most of /v/ actually is
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>>333604790
>PS4 sells more why?
Because normies are what drives console unit sales and they need a cheaper box to play Fifa, Madden and CoD. PS4 is the cheaper box this gen the same way 360 was the cheaper box last gen.

If it was otherwise Bloodborne wouln't have such a hard time getting in the top10 best selling PS4 games chart.
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>>333613359

Now that you are showing your rebellious nature, I'd like to use this opportunity to say this to you

IDOLMASTER FUCKING SUCKS!
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I bought a PS4 because it has the superior version of multiplats. The only exclusives I care about are Nintendo's.
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>>333613660
>superior versions of multiplats
What the fuck am I reading
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>>333613434
Where can I find the list of Bayonetta 2 boss?
I only found the Bayonetta 1

I remember crystal clear though the screams being similar to the hysterical ones on DmC
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>>333613756
I don't remember that at all, a video clip would help. Even so, is that really your biggest complaint of that game over its predecessor?
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>>333613747
Multiplats are better on PS4 than Xbox One.
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>>333613747
Isn't true?
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>>333604790
What's with contrarian faggots claiming DS3 is better than DS4

I still prefer 360 to both but DS4 is clearly superior
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>>333613907
Which are best on PC
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>>333613873
No
Too much focus on her ass
Too much cut scenes
Too much music

Every cut-scene it looked like it was made by a japanese on cocaine and meth
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>>333613967
But PC is more expensive.
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>>333613952
I didn't see anyone claiming that

>>333614047
>Too much focus on her ass
>Too much cut scenes
>Too much music
>Every cut-scene it looked like it was made by a japanese on cocaine and meth
Are you complaining about Bayonetta 1 or Bayonetta 2 here? As those are all featured prominently in both games.
Just be honest: you haven't played them.
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>>333604790
Get a pc you lame ass faggot
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>>333614086
Not if you already had one for work purposes and souped it up instead of getting a PS4/Xbone
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>>333614193
>Just be honest: you haven't played them.

Man, fuck you.

I'm complaining about the second one.

The first one was ok, it showed her ass but not everytime they could
also had less music

The Bayonetta 2 end was the most shit moment in gaming history
I fuck hated that music
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>>333614395
I don't believe you at all, your criticisms make so little sense as if you're trying your hardest to not talk about the actual gameplay or plot.
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>>333614487
That's why I sold my Wii U and I won't buy bayonetta 3

you weeb nintendo obsessive people are just worse than schizophrenics
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>>333614584
What out lads he's been caught and gone full shitpost!

I guess this is what jealousy looks like :^)
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>>333613269
I really doubt that you have larger hands than my own and the Xbone controller is shit, just like the 360 one was.
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On miiverse I said that I didn't enjoy much Bayonetta 2 and people started to delete me as a friend

You guys have serious mental problems that I think can't be fixed.
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>>333613967
Unless they are Koei Tecmo games.
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>>333604845
>hate Microsoft

That's high treason punishable by death
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>>333606431
>>333606817

It was 4) They completely misread the data on the market and thought People used 360's to stream Netflix and play COD. They ignored the fact that the people who bought the console eight years before were buying it for what J Allard announced years back.

Look at this suave ass nigga. Look at him. When they launched it in 2005, he outlined everything the 360 was going to be.

It was going to have Japanese games because it was important to have the most creative developers in the industry to give support.
It was going to have a variety first party hardcore games that pushed the envelope for everyone (Remember that they launched Gears Of War and Viva Pinata in the same year)
He said just because the console was online and capable of patches doesn't give a developer and publisher an excuse to sell a broken game.
He said that indies had a place and they would make them special and give them support to be the best but it didn't make them immune to the standards big publishers like EA were held to.

And most importantly. The whole media aspect of the 360 was a side function. Not because the console needed it, but because the community created it with XBMC on the original xbox and they wanted to continue what the hacking community did. It was a game console first, but you could play media if you wanted as a secondary function

That's what people wanted in a game console. That's why the 360 was successful before Kinect. And that's everything Don Matrick did wrong with the xbone. Even EA were pissed and threatened to pull support, it was that bad.

J Allard was the hero we needed, but not the one we deserve.
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>>333614979
Behead those who insult Microsoft!
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>>333604834
I find the DS4 to be not only Sony's best controller but the best ever done. It feels so ergonomic I can't go back to the DaS 3 anymore. And I never liked the Xbox controller
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>>333615056
Interesting.
It seems the ones who hired Don Mattrick are the Sony employees
or they enjoy being cucked by their own people
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>>333614715
>/v/ is miiverse
Just stop. You were already called out as a bullshiter, now it's just embarrassing.
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>Don Matrick
>The american cuck

Someone put the cuck hair on him please?
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>>333607161
>develop game for a consol thats been dead for almost 2 decades
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>>333615357

Don Matrick was a micromanaging tyrant from all accounts who only listened to data and his own advisors. He was only hired because "Oh he was the creator of EA Sports" (Which is true. He was the producer of the first FIFA game on Genesis and coined the sub-brand). The board only liked him because he made the division consistently profitable.

It's hilarious reading Spencer trying to mention something old and then suddenly trying to avoid mentioning his name because he did something stupid like refusing to green light Killer Instinct because "Fighting games weren't popular anymore" even when MS Studios showed the data that MK9 and MvC3 sold better on 360. Or the older one about MS being offered Bayonetta 2 and refusing it even though most of the MS Studios staff were wanting to work with Platinum Games for years (It eventually turned into Scalebound)

(Everyone holds their tounge about him in the industry as Despite Matrick being an ignorant idiot when it comes to running a gaming platform. He was a financial and programming genius and still holds a lot of stock in a lot of gaming companies as he invested wisely. Peter Moore almost called him an idiot on IGN before and had to calm down because Matrick still holds shares in EA. Though not enough for a board seat, it's still a bad idea to call a stockholder an "Idiot")
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hisMQ-YRbfQ

Based Microsoft in 2005
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>PS4 sells more why?
Europoor here. The PS4 was $100 less at launch, had all the games normies love to gobble up like GTAV, Fifa and CoD and microsoft has bad a bad reputation over here. The only reason people got a Xbox 360 last gen was because it was way easier to pirate shit on it, everyone else got a PS3 after the price drop. Personally I got one for weeb games and to play with friends.
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>>333616054
Hipsters.
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>>333615056
To this day I have not touched any of the Viva Pinata games yet I've heard from a bunch of people that they were pretty fun? Are they actually good?
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Microsoft has been killing it with their revival of the Xbone. It's almost like last generation with the PS3 vs. Xbox 460 but swapped. Microsoft is the one doing gamer-focused shit like backwards compatibility, cross-play, great free games, etc. and Sony is the one being shills.
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>>333617089
360 was simply amazing, despite Kinect and Don Mattrick.

It saved the 2000s.
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>>333614979
How can you not with this fucking Win10 store game shit?
Year of linux gaming when?

>>333604790
Indie games better than no games
Weeb games are fun, and better than no games.
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>>333613269
I use both, they both feel very good inn my hands.

They both feel pretty premium, perhaps the DS4 even more so due to texturized plastic.
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>>333616268
Phil Spencer will make Xbox great again
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Lauching Xbox with kinect ONLY

I BET THIS WAS DON MATTRICK DECISION
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>>333617089
>revival

Redmond, please.
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>>333604790
>inferior controller
ARE YOU FUCKING SHITTING ME? Were you a fucking Thalidomide baby?
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>>333616291

>J Allard was too based for this gay industry

It hurts watching that conference because every single thing he said about the gamer coming first and being the center of the 360 has now been ignored and thrown in the trash because people will suck the dick of corporations just for giving them games and happily choke on it.
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>>333617439

San Mateo, pls go. This is a civilized thread.
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>>333617831
1) Why he left

2) Who hired Don Mattrick

3) Who waited for the launch of Xbox one to fire Mattrick

4) Can Microsoft be saved?
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If I was the president of Microsoft and watched the launch of Kinect

I WOULD FIRE EVERYONE, EVEN THE COFFEE GUY!
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>>333607627

2014 wasn't that good. 2015's conference was better and even that was pretty guff
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>>333617198
And despite the RRoD, and focus on Call of Duty.

Point is that Microsoft started strong, then died out because of their focus on Kinect and CoD promotions. Now they started bad, ditched CoD partnership, ditched the Kinect, are offering many requested features, ripping on "half console" releases, and doing consoles a favor.
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