Y-you're not a TPfag, are you anon?
I'm gay for Midna.
I wish I had a cute imp to cuddle with.
>>333566161
I was when I was 13.
>>333566161
No, I'm a Wind Waker fag.
No, it's the worst 3D Zelda by far.
Worst overworld.
Worst towns.
Worst NPCs.
Worst story.
Worst art style.
Worst combat due to bad wolf sections
Only good things are decent dungeons and Midna.
>>333566449
So now?
I would If the gamecube version had a fair price and the game wasn't so clunky on emulation.
>>333566580
>>333566580
>Worst art style.
>not SS
Let me just add this UI was absolutely atrocious.
>>333566580
>Worst combat due to bad wolf sections
Objectively wrong. It easily has the best and deepest combat of any mainline Zelda
>>333566161
Yes.
>>333566746
I'm all for Skyward Sword bashing, but an optional UI is hardly worth mentioning.
>>333566580
*Second worst
>>333566882
A-are you unwell?
>>333567028
I think you are. Why are you stuttering?
Are you having a fever?
>tfw enjoyed SS more than WW
I guess /v/ gave me too high/ low of an expectation for WW/SS
>>333567110
I-I'm just scared of TPfags.
>>333567271
Are..you sure you're not scared of yourself?
>>333566760
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>333567291
I-I'm not a TPfag, so...
>>333567271
There is no reason to be afraid, Anon.
Now hurry up and put on your fursuit while I start RPing as Midna.
>>333567425
But you made a thread about TPfags. If you wanted to avoid them, why did you call for their attention?
Do you secretly want to be a TPfag, anon?
>>333567271
>Nintendo users are autistic manbabbies
Who would have guessed.
>>333567539
FUCK NO
>>333566746
>complaining about things you can turn off
>>333568297
>choose between having an ugly UI or no UI at all
Great solution, retard.
>>333566746
Yes TP art is worst. Fucking goron nipples and Ooccoo nipples jesus christs.
>>333566746
>Skyward Sword
>worst artstyle
lol
>>333568538
What's wrong with this, faggot?
TP is good
>>333568538
Aww, did Dad walk in, faggot?
>>333566580
You forgot worst music
>>333568705
Said no one ever.
>>333568906
In my opinion TP has the best music. They went for a more ambient vibe and it worked wonders. The songs for Lakebed Temple and City in the Sky are amazing.
I enjoyed it when i played it
>>333569081
You have awful taste its all unmemorable ambient shit with no melody. Its more like background noise than background music
There was some solid stuff in Twilight Princess. Midna was great, and the melancholy atmosphere was at least interesting. I liked all of the ruins scattered around the map that made Hyrule feel like the ancient kingdom it is at this point.
The dungeons were probably the best overall out of the 3D Zeldas, and I liked the sword techniques a lot. Overall, I'd say it was an 8.5/10 or so. Not the best Zelda has done, but a solid game worth playing.
>>333569517
>8.5
Surely you mean 8.8?
>>333568451
It actually is a great solution, though.
>>333570141
It's within the error bars
>>333568451
You can still have a UI, retard.
>>333566970
Right, can't forget that Wind Waker existed.
Will Nintendo do Skyward Sword HD next?
>>333566161
Lana is the best thing to happen to anything Zelda related.
>>333570958
Not for Wii U, that's for sure.
>>333566161
TP is my second least favorite 3D zelda.
that being said, I haven't played Skyward Sword and I've heard that one's shit.
I really, really enjoyed TP though. dungeons were leagues better than OoT or even MM, boss battles were fucking intense and well implemented, and midna is what makes Dwayne Johnson so rocky.
>>333570958
I would really enjoy a SS port that toned down the motion controls
>>333571179
What's your least favorite?
>like all the zelda games on a level
>like talking about pro and cons of each and everyone of them
>only onesided X is the best/worst threads on /v/
You people aren't fun in the slightest
>>333571765
Neither is TP.
>>333571684
>OoT
>I don't like to mention that because people are faggots about that game
>>333568906
>>333569162
Fighting that boss while you were on the top, the Yeti boss fight, and the music at night while you were in the field were pretty good. I still think the rest was forgettable just like the game since it did nothing well instead was just an aggressively average Zelda game
>>333572513
I'm with you, man. I respect the hell out of Ocarina, but I can't bring myself to like it.
>>333572513
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU OOT IS MY HUSBANDO YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH IT IS THE LITERAL GOD OF GAMING YOU JUST CANT COMPREHEND IT'S GREATNESS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>333572726
>Wind Waker
>Best in the series
>>333572726
>wind waker best on the series
no
>>333568680
Stuff of nightmares
>>333572648
It did being an aggressively average Zelda game pretty well. :^)
>>333566161
Third favorite Zelda to be honest, though I prefer Wii version for aiming and spin attack.
>>333568680
Are these guys supposed to be the Skyward Sword sky people?
who /MM/ here
I really love TP and i've played almost all the zeldas. Most of my friends love TP alot as well and they've also played most of the zedas. I think TP is just one of those games where it really wins with some people and just really bombs with others. I don't think its really possible to say that its actually bad in a way everybody can unanimously agree with.
My only complaint is that some of the boss fights were extremely easy even for zelda standards. Nothing worse than going through the build up of that whole dungeon just to breathe on a boss to kill it.
>>333566161
I finished it, so I liked it more than Cartoon Sailing Simulator 2002 and whatever the fuck skyward sword was supposed to be.I like majoras maskskyward sword was the worst, even with the fuckable zelda
>>333572513
Well what is it about OoT that makes it your least favorite? I'm interested to know because I'm pretty biased towards it, but even when I try to look at it obiectively I come to the conclusion that it's still pretty great.
Damn straight I am. Flawed as it is, I fucking love me some TP.
I think people overblow how bad the wolf sections were, as if the second and third ones were backtracking as well and as if the game didn't also have a bunch of other fun stuff going on between dungeons like horse battles and skiing.
I'm playing it for the first time. I was liking it at first, but I'm slowly growing bored of it.
It's certainly not a bad game though.
>>333572838
>>333572849
So how does it feel to be such flaming faggots?
>>333573604
I actually really like OoT, for the record, but it had these noticeable problems
>dungeons were badly laid out and some were just plain amateur-like (water temple and having to go to a separate screen for the iron boots were awful)
>puzzles didn't really challenge the player and were more based on finding a switch and hitting it
>super flaggy, i.e. "you can't do this until you talk to arbitrary NPC #379"
>lots of little frustrating moments, like the fact that you have to talk to the ranch guy TWICE for some reason when it gives you no indication that you would ever want to talk to him TWICE for no FUCKING reason and it's just completely ARBITRARY and WHY DID THEY LEAVE THAT IN
also,
>solid atmosphere
>basic but occasionally cool story
>fun-ass combat and cool music
Why the fuck does everything have to be black or white? I like TP, but it's not the best game ever made. It has it's flaws and I can accept them and still enjoy it.
>>333574563
Water Temple (along with Fire Temple) are the least amateur like dungeons of the game imo. At least they tried to take advantage of 3d dimension in interesting ways (at least when it came out).
Forest Temple on the other hand, is one of the most basic shit I've played on a Zelda, barring 1 and 2. Not to say the atmosphere wasn't cool, but holy fuck was it a simplistic and bland dungeon design wise.
>>333574891
see, that's funny because Forest was one of my favorites and Fire is probably my least favorite. well, Shadow and Spirit are also awesome, but Fire temple just seemed aimless and I'll never forgive it for the way you can get yourself trapped in a certain room if you don't have a key and you have to kill Link if you want to proceed at all
>>333566161
i know a guy that bought the game just because of midna.he liked the game but god damn is he bad at it, he must have gotten like 40 game overs
>>333574214
I don't know, why don't you tell me?
>>333575190
Shit, that happened to me. I also lost my Zora armor to a like-like in the Water Temple, and I didn't have a big enough wallet to buy a new set, so I had to finish the Water Temple without the ability to breathe underwater
>>333574891
It can't be more basic than the first two dungeons in the game.
>>333575432
>he can't beat the water temple without the zora tunic
If you're underwater for more than a minute at a time, you're taking too long.
>>333575535
You are right. Dunno why but I wasn't even considering them. First three dungeons are really too much tutorial like (Jabu's belly was horrible)
>>333575563
not him but that whirlpool room always takes me forever.
>>333575813
You use the Iron Boots for that? I always just kinda mashed B to swim faster in that. Or do you not mean the river after the Longshot, but the one where you shoot the crystal switch?
>>333574563
I thought the water temple was good for being an actual puzzle dungeon with all the back and forth but the iron boots thing is indeed fucking awful and I don't get how that got pass playtesting. But I do think the dungeons are still pretty solid, maybe too many switches at times but generally every dungeon changes things up nicely from room to room. Definitely see where you are coming from though.
What is that last point about? I'm thinking Epona but I don't remember talking to him twice ever
>>333572726
Can someone explain how Wind Waker is the best in the series with its mixed bag of dungeons (Most of which are mediocre) and awfully paced penultimate section where you need to collect the triforce pieces. It's the most blatantly flawed 3D game in the series (barring SS as I never ended up playing it) as far as I'm concerned.
>>333576263
yeah, it's with Epona. you have to talk to the ranch hand while riding epona after having been back in time and learned Epona's song and played it while the ranch minigame was happening.
then you have to do it a second time for NO REASON
>>333566161
>typing a stutter
>>333576418
Oh fuck I remember now having trouble getting Epona in the 3DS remake because I forgot what to do. When I played it as a little shit it just seemed natural to talk to him until something happens but just 2 months ago I didn't get it.
>>333576323
I think people that like WW don't like the dungeons, they like the exploration bit. I think it's the worst 3d zelda i've playedhavent played SSbut it has more of a sense of adventure. The dungeons are hot garbage, though.
>>333566580
I cant disagree with any of this, I dont think TP is a bad game but its definitely the worst 3d zelda, even Skyward Sword was more fun.
>>333566161
Nah I'm a TP masterrace. Let me guess, you're a Majoretard.
>>333566161
Nope. I did replay the GC version recently though. Much better than I remember. I'd still rank it fairly low.
>>333576323
Because I still get a throbbing errection just sailing in the game
I don't think it's the best but it's still pretty good. The atmosphere is generally enjoyable and relaxing, just feels good moving around in the game.
Combat has some little quirks I absolutely love, like the stings when you hit an enemy and the sound when your button prompt activates.
Dungeons are mediocre at best, but it's also the first Zelda game to legitimately make me laugh out loud
>>333577093
I can,
if by overworld he means Hyrule field then i can understand the "big and empty" complaint, but really, OoT's is just a box field, TP field at least has some segregation and hidden caves and bunch of other shit beyond holes in the ground. If he means everything outside of dungeons then I highly disagree, there's a lot more land to explore outside of dungeons and you're still walking through new areas further into the game in comparison to OoT, where you've practically maxed out the overworld outside of Gerudo Valley by the timeskip.
I can accept the towns and NPC opinion, but what makes this story so much worse than the others is beyond me, at the very least there was a actual display of how endangered Hyrule was here.
I'll accept the art style opinion though it's better than SS for me.
The combat complaint is retarded, game's not hard but Link's new moves make the combat better than the previous 3D games. Iron Knuckle is a better fight than Darknut because Iron Knuckle is a bigger threat, but hit and run is not better combat than shield bashing and helm splitters and what not.
>>333578160
>TP field at least has some segregation and hidden caves and bunch of other shit beyond holes in the ground
Except it really doesnt m8.
>>333568906
you're kidding...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdgEIRBsTaU
Yeah, TP is great
It's combat was really nice and tight, the dungeons were cool, the story was really good and immersing and the music was downright amazing
Only Zelda that would get remotely close is Wind Waker
But this is a matter of opinion, of course
>>333568906
vid related is some of the worst music ever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmUzpYaxNIc
>>333578458
It does.
Not much, but they're there.
>>333578458
It has everything you quoted, i think there;s like 7 secret caves, the field is literally segregated by different bridges and what not and there's chests and other stuff hidden around as well as shit for the two main side quests.
>>333566161
This is such a useless thread topic. Whether or not you think this is an excellent game (which is very subjective), it's a damn fine piece of art and that's worth admiring.
I absolutely love TP
Arbiters Grounds is the best dungeon the series has ever had
>>333579048
Yeti's place is where it's at.
>>333579048
i agree it's a well made game, but that's a bold statement... a link to the past has the best dungeons if we're gonna be real
>the bit between the end of temple of time and the beginning of the sky city
Are we supposed to give a single shit about Ilia?
>>333579472
Illia is best girl, so I did
>>333579472
I don't understand how Nintendo failed to make her memory loss not straight foward. Who loses their memory from an arrow in their back with no head trauma.
As for caring about Illia, no, you don't, but she was basically Link's girlfriend so its obvious why he does.
>Dungeons
Why do people enjoy this shit? By far the most frustrating, dull, tedious and unenjoyable part of this GOAT game series.
In fact why are 'dungeon' levels in any game? Ruined Oblivion for me too.
>Dark
>Uninteresting
>No idea where to go
>Trial and error until you find your way
>Constant swarms of enemies (usually the exact same thing over and over again)
If you're lucky, there's some sort of brain-teaser puzzle type thing on the way but that's the only interesting part about these parts.
>>333579631
She does literally nothing in the game but bitch about your horse and get amnesia because fuck it, amnesia subplots are so great. Not to mention the fucking Horse Call you're given like 10 hours after you go the ability to warp everywhere.
>>333579750
>By far the most frustrating, dull, tedious and unenjoyable part of this GOAT game series
KYS, my man
>>333579750
Gonna have to explain better, TP's best strength to me is that all its dungeons are good and none of them share themes.
That you're claiming to have no idea where to go makes it seem like you're making shit up.
The best Zelda game is typically the one you played first. They're all pretty much the same game.
Since I'm old as fuck LttP is my favorite. 90s kids like Oot. Toddlers think WW is the best. Literal babies think TP is the best.
Whichever you played first is factually the best in the series.
>>333580078
what if i didn't play zelda 2 until the late 2000's but like that more than the rest?
>>333580078
my first game was OoT and I like TPand OoSthe best
fuck you
>>333580176
you get a gold medal
I'm going to start reporting "TP is shit" threads to the mods, because I keep seeing one EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY, SOMETIMES TWICE A DAY and you guys are real morons if you really think this. TP is one of the best in the series. No, it's not majora's mask, but if I had to go back and replay one, TP is a lot more enjoyable than OoT. Sure OoT was ahead of its time and more groundbreaking and I fucking adored it when I was 7, but if I had to go back and play it today I'd probably rather stick my dick in the oven.
>>333579954
They just suck. The best part of Zelda games was talking to people, solving mysteries, receiving rare items, being immersed in a plot and a story, visiting idealistic communities, helping out at a farm, going fishing, unlocking secrets etc. etc.
Not fucking around in a dark cave whacking giant crab/spiders with your sword over and over again with no link to the story other than it's there, or it's in your way, or you need to get one item at the end of the ordeal.
>>333580906
... did you ever play the first zelda?
it's DEFINED by it's dungeons and confusing exploration. a link to the past refines the formula but that's what zelda is at heart. i think you're in the wrong thread ...
>>333568906
Wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqZXoRdQsGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsVT_-RsONg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUlJPREVhtA
>>333580176
Then kill yourself, Zelda 2 is shit
>>333581281
I didn't like the 2D Zelda games at all.
OOT
Majora's Mask
Wind Waker
Twilight Princess
The 'confusing exploration' is what I'm flagging as being shit.
>cramped, labyrinthine and claustrophobic, making camera management and level navigation a chore
OOT is in my opinion the greatest game ever made, but the worst parts of it were by far the dungeon parts. I wish I could skip them somehow.
>>333581364
you forgot my favorite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoBRdekWKxI
>>333573101
>two hours ago
>no replies
Y'all are bitches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v54cX5rC8Pg
>>333581506
ok, i understand that you personally don't like the dungeons. but every other zelda fan does... as far as i know. without them, i would have no reason to play a zelda game. the world of villages and npcs is nice but it's more like icing on the cake to me. this is why i'm not a big fan of majora's mask. and just because it's confusing or difficult for you does not mean it's shit. this is how miyamoto intended the game to be. you're supposed to get lost and find your way
>>333566580
confirmed you didn't play SS
>>333573101
i'll admit i haven't beaten MM, but i just don't see what's so great. the first two dungeons were alright, but i really have no interest in running around fitting people's stories and schedules together. compared to previous zelda's it's just a totally different focus from dungeons to npc interactions, from what i can tell, and i don't see the appeal...
>>333579736
>she was basically Link's girlfriend so its obvious why he does
That's why he gives no shits about her and leaves her behind in the ending right
>>333573101
genius game, i like it more than OoT
playing it for the first time this christmas season, GF got it on wiiware or some dumb shit like that, so I'm playing it with a GC controller and framerate drops (thanks wii) but it's still really fucking good
>>333580631
TP HD has created an anomaly in the Zelda cycle - now that it's "new" again, people are obligated to hate it again for being the newest Zelda.
