Blizz is trying to build a competitive scene for Overwatch, but makes the tick rate 20. Either Blizz is stupid or they expect the customers to be. Which one is it?
>>333528552
Doesn't matter, Activision calls the shots at MLG now, they could make the tick rate half that and it would still be part of the line up.
>>333528552
>Either Blizz is stupid or they expect the customers to be. Which one is it?
Take an educated guess.
>>333528552
The tick rate isn't 20 so the entire question is fallicious
>>333528552
20 tickrate is kinda bad, but it will affect everybody, so your reflexes will still count.
>>333528552
>Which one is it?
>>333528898
>The tick rate isn't 20
20.4, sorry. Blizzard acknowledged it in Tuesday's patch notes you dumb nigger
>>333529029
>for this match, we will blindfold players.
>sound is going to be off also
>of course, this applies to everyone so your skill still matters :^)
>>333529271
Tickrate is actually around 50 senpai
>>333529495
>source: my ass
Here's a source proving you wrong http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20742886413
>>333529692
>>333529495
here's the line stating the default tick rate is 20.8, meaning everyone in this thread is technically wrong, but the fellow who said 20/20.4 is closer by a pretty large margin
>>333529692
>http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20742886413
High Bandwidth Custom Game Option
You can now enable a high bandwidth mode for Custom Game, changing the client update rate from 20.8Hz to 62.5Hz
>>333529915
>62.5
>high
What's even more ridiculous is, that Overwatch's free alternative, TF2, has 66 tick servers!
>>333529915
So it's what this guy said? >>333529495
>>333530016
>free alternative
Overwatch is more polished and stable yet its not even out, plus TF2 was $20 on release.
>>333529029
>be a commentator on a tournament
>someone gets hit by an arrow from Hanzo that very clearly missed
>have to explain why it still hit
oh that's gonna be a hoot
>>333529976
I didn't say it was high
>>333529915
>option for custom games
>option
>custom games
Why would this be an option and why would it be for custom games only? jesus.....
They probably just don't expect people to react this autistically.
>>333529915
But isn't it still pretty important what tickrate the official servers run on? It doesn't matter too much is some custom servers can use higher tick rates, because people will be playing on Blizz servers mostly.
>>333530063
Default tick rate is under 21. People playing ranked matches will be using 20.8 tickrate. Ranked matches are pretty key in determining who is good at the game or not.
If someone said "in all my custom matches i host i always win" nobody would give a fuck, regardless of the game, what makes this any different?
Don't CSGO tournaments have to host their own private servers to get their magical 120+ tick rate they demand?
I'll get shit for this, but I'm not really familiar with these type of games, what do guys mean about the tick rate and why is 20 a bad thing? what should they aim for?
>>333528552
So what does that mean? I know cock all about netcodes but I like competitive games.
>>333530320
>Ranked matches are pretty key in determining who is good at the game or not.
I giggled. In a team game ranked literally means jack fucking shit
Hell in any game, ranked means nothing. It's just for teenagers to whack off to their E-go's
>>333530396
>>333530418
tick rate is the amount of times a server refreshes in a second. 20 is really bad for a FPS. CS:GO for example uses 64 tick for official servers. tournaments use 128.
I don't care. I am not playing this game for esporty, fuck esports, I just want a fucking fun casual TF2 style game. Why the fuck is it against the law to have a multiplayer game that isn't HARDCORE ESPORTS?
>>333528552
>20 tick
holy hell what the fuck
there exist people who can press buttons faster than 20 tick
>>333530063
No, it's 20.8 all the time unless you're in a custom gave with "High Bandwidth" on.
>>333530117
Tournies will almost certainly be customs due to said high bandwidth option
>>333530140
Beats me, Blizz is just stupid.
>>333530418
if a tickrate is 1, that means the server only sees what's happening every second. everything in between is lost to the void.
With a 60 tickrate, you get 60 'frames' of what's happening a second.
fuck lemme find the picture, it'll be easier
there we are. see the image
>>333530418
Game updates at the tickrate per second.
It's like the FPS of the server, except it's how often the game updates.
Everything in between is usually interpolated or guessed upon for consistency, but it basically means that the server runs at silky smooth 20fps, and player positions, aim, and bullet/projectile trajectories are also only 20fps.
>>333530418
You and 99.9% of /v/. When people tried to push this meme originally, it didn't take right away because no one knows what the fuck a tickrate is and it had to be explained every thread
>>333530562
fuck off casual
>>333530113
To be fair TF2 was much more polished when it launched then ovrwatch looks like. TF2 may look like a mess now but it wasn't always that way.
>>333530748
Make me.
>>333530562
let's see how much fun you're having when you shoot someone dead on and the server doesn't see it because it happened between ticks, casual or not.
>>333530562
Because 20 is fucking low for any FPS. It's like playing with really shit internet. At some point it's just not fun anymore.
I play competitive, no hero limit is cancer
>>333530418
The tickrate of a server is basically how often the server decides stuff IE someone getting hit, killed, etc happens. 20 Tick rate means it does it 20 times a second. 20 is pretty low for a FPS, it's typically 60 or more in most games.
>>333530117
>be a commentator on a tournament
>have to explain why you need to be connected to battlenet to play against people 10 feet away
>>333530140
Because it's cheaper, and because people who buy Blizzard games will literally accept any garbage.
>>333530843
Probably a lot of fun still, because I don't care about the tick rate. I can actually promise you your magical prediction I'll hate it won't come true.
>>333529976
>refreshes more often than most systems run frame rate at
>implying its not high by almost all metrics.
>>333530604
>due to said high bandwidth option
and they'll still have to explain the shit tick rate
Valve may fuck it's players with 66 in comp but at least the standard is 128 for tourneys.
>>333530847
Still fun to me, sucks for you familia
>>333530140
>>333530604
>>333530897
>being retarded
it's on custom games AT THE MOMENT
they never said that they wouldn't bring it to regular games.
What's a tick rate?
Enlighten me /v/, what does "the 20 tick rate" meme mean?
>>333530701
this guy gets it, perfect picture, game will be shit competetive as long as they dont upgrade tickrate.
normal CSGO servers run on 64 tick while tournament and 3rd party servers run on 128 tick. The difference is massive.
>>333531078
Cool. People like F2P mobile games too.
>>333531097
You need to play the game locked at 20fps to be accurate
>>333531029
64 is basically the standard, and it's agreed that it's still too low.
>>333531081
and here we see the cock gobbling blizzard activision cuck in all its glory.
>>333531176
I don't care for F2P games desu, if a game is f2p I generally won't play it.
In this shitty thread full of retards: ignorant nerds who don't know shit about netcode mixing up client update rate and server internal update rate.
>>333530832
As someone who has played since release, I disagree. Immediately after release it was buggy as hell and there were loads of clipping issues and spawn gate problems. About a half a year later was when it was significantly more polished, only to be undone after the hoards of shitty updates succeeding the pyro update
>>333531187
How can anything over 60 be too low? If you dont have a gsync/freesync monitor then there is literally no benefit. Im pretty sure 90% of players are still running 60hz panels. Anything over 60 is overkill for anything less than tournament play.
>>333530957
You seem to be mistaken. I implied you would have less fun with a game that occasionally tosses out a shot, not that you would hate it.
I think maybe you're just looking for an argument.
>>333531187
No one cares what esporters want
>>333530562
>Blizz is trying to build a competitive scene for Overwatch, but makes the tick rate 20. Either Blizz is stupid or they expect the customers to be. Which one is it?
Blizzard is retarded and out of touch with what it's fanbase wants. There's absolutely nothing Overwatch has over TF2, and it will remain another failed Blizzard experiment like all the other games since the Activision merger.
Remember HotS? Nobody does.
>>333531382
they should tho.
>>333531358
When you insist people are going to have feelings when you don't know anything about them, you are kind of looking for an argument.
You are wrong, have a good day
>>333531382
>not wanting to settle for shit makes you an "esporter"
>>333531456
I agree 100%! I fail to see any reason to pay 40 bucks for Overwatch when there is TF2.
>>333531456
I do.
>>333531402
Holy shit I suddenly care
Oh wait I fucking don't, try again
>>333531456
>Blizzard is retarded and out of touch with what it's fanbase wants
But Blizzard knows that they think they do but they don't. How is Blizzard out of touch when they're the ones telling their consumers what they do and don't like/want?
>He thinks tickrate is going to stop the game from having a competitive scene
Blizz will push the esports.
It will be another Hearthstone.
HotS only failed for the same reasons every MMO that wasnt WoW failed for years.
Top 5 on Twitch this time next year will be:
>LoL
>DotA2
>Overwatch
>Hearthstone
>CS:GO
In that order, calling it now.
>>333531402
hilarious.
>>333531478
>says the person who thinks "i don't care" means "nobody should care"
>>333531348
It's got nothing to do with frames you dumbshit. No clue where you got that impression.
20 Tickrate? Wew lad. Blizz actually had the smarts to make the game 60 FPS on consoles because they realize it's important than then use such an abnormally low tickrate. Console FPS that run at 30 FPS have higher tickrate than that. What the fuck Blizz?
>>333528552
Im a fucking moron, whats tick rate?
>>333531402
>everyone will ignore the AoE that clearly killed her
>again
8/8 b8
>>333531382
i'm not into competitive play at all, nor esports, but i think if they aim for that type of audience and competition, they should care. makes no sense to me
>>333531645
>game updates
>sent to client
>client gets update, happens to draw frame just after update
>client proceeds to get 4-6 more updates before it's able to draw a frame and show the user whats happening
>ITS NOT TIED TO FRAME RATE YOU FAGGOT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Okay goy. Care to enlighten me how I'm mistaken?
>>333531590
>look how much I'm enjoying eating this shit
wow
>>333531782
Yeah, the AoE killed her and that's why Mr.Bowman got credited for killing the spider.
Top players AKA Luminosity have been telling friends that they find the game boring, and would rather go back to TF2.
The only reason that they're still playing the game is because its "free money"
Truth hurts blizzard cucks
>>333531747
>>333530701
read the thread, fuckwit
>>333531782
>people ignore the first arrow shot aimed straight at the door and just magically teleports in her leg
10/10
>>333531824
>>333531617
csgo is allready bigger than Overwatch, Hearthstone and dota and its only growing. Recently we saw CSGO having more viewers than LoL while both streamed Tournaments/leagues.
>>333530701
thank you for this, really helps now i understand why 20 is terrible, god damn
>>333531821
What you are shown has nothing to do with what the server sees when you shoot
your visuals are in no way tied to the speed at which the server updates the positions and states of everything
>>333531982
woah ms paint comic
now I feel real rekt
>>333529029
They don't, if you react milliseconds faster than your enemy, chances are you'll kill each other simultaneously when in fact only he should be dead.
I play a lot of both CS:GO and Destiny, so i know what i'm talking about.
>>333531821
>if my monitor is turned off it's like the server has a tickrate of zero
alert your handler that internet time is over, please
>>333531402
Widowmaker actually dies from rocket splash damage. It displays "Eliminated Widowmaker" if you assisted in the kill
>>333532047
It's almost as good as "lol shit taste nerd"
>>333530586
It's not about reflexes, it's about position tracking.
Just host a private server with 128 tick like CSGO's community servers
Wait a minute...
>Blizzard
Nevermind.
>>333532131
Again you fail to provide any explanation as to how a user is going to magically benefit from the server updating the client multiple times before the client is even able to render it. I love your argument.
Why play Overwatch over CS:GO?
Why play HotS over Dota 2?
Why play Hearthstone over MtG or literally any other card game?
Why play WoW over XIV?
Literally no reason to ever touch an ActiBlizzard game ever again.
>>333530708
>>333530418
This means that the game will "make things up" in those spaces, and some hilarious things will happen, such as yourself being killed right after running behind cover.
>implying this didn't happen in every single CoD after CoD4: MW.
>>333532180
Yeah, but I'm saying that there are people who can literally input commands faster than the tickrate of the server.
Positional tracking actually isn't a huge issue on low tickrates (until someone changes direction), as interp usually makes up for it on your screen.
Hit registration suffers greatly, however.
>>333532275
My stockholm syndrome says otherwise.
>>333531989
>Csgo is already bigger than Overwatch
Bigger than a game in an exclusive closed beta? Whoa....
>Hearthstone
Not on a daily basis, no. Only during tournaments
>and dota
HAAW
WAAW
>and CS:GO had more viewers than LoL that one time, remember?
Just stop.
>>333532168
taste?
>>333532334
Get help.
>>333532232
>you
He's not me. 4chan isn't one person out to get you. It's just a bunch of people calling you a dumbshit because you're a fucking retard who doesn't understand networks.
>>333531821
Because it's fucking server response time from the client and not the other way around you jackoff.
>>333532275
CS:GO is tryhard hardcore shit
Same with DOTA
MTG costs thousands to play
People play WoW
>>333532428
Why do I need help when I can just set my fps to 20 and mirror the tick rate?
>>333532275
None of those comparisons are really similar.
Blizzard games are so dumbed-down and outright dull that they have their own odd niche.
HotS would be ok if they removed more of their awful maps.
>>333532275
Agree with everything except XIV.
Dead expansion. Dead patches.
Braindead players. Dead game.
>>333532232
rendering has nothing to do with how the server responds to your mouse clicking. Blind people can play games with good sound design, does that mean the server might as well not send information at all, as they don't see a single frame?
Jesus, you are a special kind of stupid.
>>333531873
You get eliminations for doing any damage to the target.
>>333532536
Nice meme.
>competitive, team based shooter
>20 ticks, aimbot and wallhacks, press x to win
Who the fuck is going to buy this?
>>333532663
This is a whole new kind of participation award. You don't even get an assist but a kill? What a great game.
>>333532363
Just look at the stats twitch provides monthly about most watched games, you will be surprised.
Twitch Top Games for 2015
(By Total Minutes Watched)
Ranking Title Prev. Month Difference
1 League of Legends
2 Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
3 Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft
4 Dota 2
copied from twitchs blog. now get@me you fucking imbecil.
before you guys fall into the tickrate shitposting loop
Blizzard has never confirmed their tickrate anywhere other than "high tickrate" and the 2 sources from reddit are in direct conflict with each other and that makes them useless
my take on this is that the tickrate is at least decent (not 20) but not high (100) and the engine is garbage for FPS games just like source engine
>>333532740
Horny retards, the same people who buy Sanran Kagura shit.
>>333532474
>tryhard hardcore shit
Why is that a bad thing?
Casuals should just stick to consoles.
>>333531029
Not every computer can be synced up perfectly so to remove error a higher-then-frame-rate tickrate is required.
>>333532474
>harecore shit
So you just admit you play Blizzard games because you are bad at everything else?
Wew, /v/ is really full of casuals
>>333532474
You sound like a casual.
>People play WoW
Lmao.
>>333532825
My good sir, just because I'm horny does not make me a retard. Rest assured however, that I will not purchase this game. These women are ugly as sin and Blizzard wants to appeal to the white knights, not I.
>>333532834
Because having no variety is boring as shit
>>333532474
>confirming the people who buy blizzard games just want to click their mouse and get points and be told they're great
thanks for clearing that up
>>333531097
20Hz tick rate means that the server checks damage and bullets 20 times per second.
this makes for a 50ms leeway for the shots fired.
comparing a player with 50ms (player 1) reaction time and a player with 100ms reaction time (player 2) makes the problem appear.
> P1 sees P2, P2 sees p1
>50ms passes and P1's brain, now realised what's happening shoots
>if the server tick just happened another 50ms needs to pass for another tick to happen
>P1 sees himself firing the shot but server side shot isn't aknowledged yet
>50ms passes P2 fires a shot, server tick happens
>server counts both shots happened at the same time
> both players get hit on the same tick
the difference between P1 and P2 is ridiculously huge (P1 is inhumanly fast), but from the servers perspective they're exactly the same, this leads to positioning and reaction time being less important.
What /v/ fails to realise is that this is a TF2 clone, and not fucking CS, weapons are arcady and 50ms won't make a difference
>>333532856
>strawman
>>333532956
>more strawmaning
>>333532923
Nice try weeb. Go back to your bland button-masher.
>>333532942
>if two games are 'hardcore' there is no variety between them
jesus man, do people need to remind you that the grass on your lawn is not free salad?
>>333532834
Do you seriously only play ultra challenging games that test every part of you anytime you game? Shit nigga sometimes I just want to smoke a bowl and play something simple and fun that kills time. Not everything needs to be a fucking endurance test, Goku. Calm the fuck down and try and take things easy once in a while.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/49jabt/overwatch_servers_are_60_tick/
>>333530562
>>333531590
>s-stop criticizing my flawed game
>I-I'M HAVING FUUUN
Grow up, dude.
>>333533028
>fallacy fallacy
two can play at that game, anon. careful, though, linguistic-related categorization is kinda hardcore, wouldn't want you to hurt yourself
>>333533027
>he thinks this game will rival tf2
oh
my
fuck
>>333533180
A fallacy fallacy is when someone dismisses a legitimate argument because of a fallacy present. There was no legitimate argument, you simply put words in my mouth and things I never said and expected them to be taken seriously
>>333533028
>CSGO is too hardcore, I would much rather prefer the slower game with lock-on
Quit defending yourself. CS:GO isn't even that hard and it still requires more skill than Overshit
>>333533146
Good for you since CSGO literally has party/joke gamemmodes and Casual
Dota has it's own share of joke gamemodes and again nobody is forcing you to play ranked
Like this is literally a problem that doesn't even exist.
>>333533341
I'd rather just play TF2 which is casual and fun and doesn't have a tryhard playerbase. You are welcome to try and stop me I guess.
>>333533146
I have other hobbies for that though. If I want to relax, I'll go read a book or play guitar/piano. Videogames fills my competitive need.
>>333532942
There is variety. Variety in gameplay mechanics, something I enjoy quite a lot.
>>333533192
never said or even implied that.
Then again, both games seem kinda shitty, so there's something to compete about
>>333533283
Anon you yourself said you don't want to play those games because they are too hard.
Quoting people is not putting words in their mouth.
>>333533146
>dude weed
>>333533412
Not how I feel about it anon, it seems people aren't rigid beings with identical feelings. You play games for your hardcorez, good for you I guess, but don't expect me to be that way.
>>333533412
>not part of the speedreading community
Ultimate pleb. Yes, I read that faster than you.
>>333531962
You are fucking retarded.
>>333533283
>dismisses a legitimate argument
>there was no legitimate argument
jesus christ, bud
>>333533146
>Do you seriously only play ultra challenging games that test every part of you anytime you game?
The entire point of a game is to overcome and succeed over a challenge.
The entire concept of a game, and all hobbies in general, is just to blow time away with something meaningful.
If you want to play casual games, you are a fucking casual.
>>333532363
If someone doesn't BTFO you with the twitch stats in the next 10 minutes Ill be back to.
Unless you've ran off with your stupidity and wont see it in which case meh.
>>333533407
>TF2 doesn't have a tryhard playerbase
If your playing VSH or something sure maybe, other than that it has the exact same audience as other shooters and its own share of people who take the game far more seriously than they should.
I don't care what games you play but please shut the fuck up about "boo hoo too serious" about goddamn csgo where gungame is in matchmaking, getting into a BO30 competitive queueue is literally 100% on you.
>>333533623
>stating someone solely plays casual games because they enjoy some casual games is a legitimate argument
Jesus christ
>>333533049
I didn't buy Senran eitherbecause it runs below 30fps
>>333533535
>but don't expect me to be that way
Then don't expect to be treated like the rest of us, who actually play games for a challenge and not as a time waister.
>>333528552
Tick rate for competitive play or private matches is 60.
>>333533539
The community around speedreading seems a bit too abnormal for my taste.
>>333533713
The main playerbse of TF2 is not competitive, the main playerbase of CSGO is and the game reflects it. I will not play csgo due to its compertitive playerbase, and nothing you ever do can change or stop this
>>333533817
What, you don't like trannys and diapers?
>>333533776
>us
Ah that ye olde newfag feeling that everyone around him is part of some collective being
>>333533776
>waister
Sounds like school was a time 'waister', eh?
>>333530320
>rankings in a low tick team based game
Gross.
Holy shit, why am I not surprised?
Overwatch fans are literally fucking calling themselves casuals!
>>333533636
The point of a hobby is to enjoy doing something. The point of gaming to you is to challenge yourself, to others it couldd be for creativity or for relaxation. You need to think less narrowly anon, the world does not revolve around your teenage mind.
>>333532850
This is the only reply that makes any sense at all and again still this would be an issue with network latency that wouldnt be completely remedied with higher tick rate. It may help in some fringe scenarios where two clients happen to be very out of sync.
>>333532442
Again, frame rate is going to be determining how accurately you can aim your gun and pull the trigger, that vast majority of players arent going to be able to interpolate between frames and magically hit headshots where your weapon lines up with another player between frames and then click to get the shot. So again 60hz is plenty regardless if its the client updating the server or vice versa.
>>333532442
a useless reply with no argument, why even post?
Overwatch will be exactly like Heroes of the Storm and Hearthstone.
Casual shit. That's why the game has an obnoxiously low tick rate, and a bunch of really fucking stupid skills and abilities that make getting kills really, really easy. It's why they took last hitting and denials out of HotS, and it's why Hearthstone is entirely RNG. Keep the casuals happy.
>>333533872
>The main playerbse of TF2 is not competitive
Confirmation bias at it's finest.
It's pretty much exactly as bad as any of the CoD games and arguably more serious than the casual CSGO queues.
As I said I don't give a flying fuck about what your braindead ass plays or doesn't play but don't you dare come here claiming that the CSGO community is too "competitive" for you when the game has options for joke/fun gamemodes right there in the search bar, that is on top of the goddamn server browser.
>>333533636
>occasionnally playing casual games makes you a casual
Are you really that insecure anon?
>Competitive
>Console FPS
Kek
Also if Overwatch truly is the old WoW team, they suck ass at balance
>>333533979
>I literally only play esports
Want some mtn dew and doritos to go along with that?
Like TF2, overwatch is one of these games that is more fun to play than watch.
Actually all FPS games are boring to watch with the exception of high level play of Quake or Unreal.
>>333533968
/v/ is a board for people who play games as their hobby
If someone just does it to waste time, what makes them fit? Do people post on /fit/ if they only get fit sometimes, or /a/ if they only watch anime sometimes?
>>333533970
>hahaha I can't argue so I am going to call out their English and insult them haha
>>333534154
>it's the same
Your word against mine. And I trust mine over yours.
>don't go complaining
Or else you'll do what? Write an angry fucking reply? Fuck off and deal with it, cunt. Game is too competitive, try and stop me.
>>333534182
>if you have standards you only play esports
lmao
>>333532275
>Why play Overwatch over CS:GO?
Not even compareable. And I would play Overwatch over TF2 anytime.
>Why play HotS over Dota 2?
>Dota 2
>assfaggots in generell
>Why play Hearthstone over MtG or literally any other card game?
Actually a point.
>Why play WoW over XIV?
Really? No matter how shitty WoW gets it's still miles ahead of XIV.
>>333534203
Are you actually implying doing something to waste time or have fun makes it not your hobby? Like are you really implying if someone plays games for like 18 hours a day but plays them for fun/a story and not for competitive or challenging reasons, it's not a hobby for them?
Are you a retard?
>watching anime sometimes
Not even similar because you are comparing time spent not to time played but to type of games played or style of playing
>>333534283
You are a dumb and sad little man.
But hey at least you brought joy to my heart knowing that there are people on this earth who consider Gungame and Surf to be too competitive.
>>333534160
>I only eat trash sometimes, but that doesn't mean I'm a trash-eater.
There is no need for casual games. If you have free time, play an actual video game that has more value than this trite.
>>333534074
>to others it could be for creativity or for relaxation
What creative instincts are you gaining from playing a casual TF2?
>>333534513
>What creative instincts are you gaining from playing a casual TF2?
None. I am relaxing and enjoying myself. When someone says or, it means or, not and
>>333534462
>He is still insisting the main draw of csgo is surf and gun game and that those at all play like a typical FPS
People want a fps that is casual, not playing frisbee with magic cards and calling it standard magic which is what you are doing by trying to imply surf is at all a mode similar to normal play.
>>333534408
>Like are you really implying if someone plays games for like 18 hours a day but plays them for fun/a story
>a story
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU PLAYING A VIDEO GAME FOR A STORY?
>>333534513
You sound like a sad person with low self esteem and a need to prove himself deeply as you seem to care more about proving how bad ass and good you are then you do about enjoying yourself
>>333528640
Blizzard runs its own circuits, they don't work with MLG
>>333532750
There was a killing blow counter but it got removed.
>>333534748
Because I want an interactive story and don't want to read and want a game. Do you honestly expect an industry like gaming to solely cater to your mindset? Are you fucking mental?
>>333534584
>I am relaxing and enjoying myself
>I am relaxing by playing a first person shooter
The kind of relaxation you want can be found in, literally, any other game.
>>333534768
>WAAAAAH WHY DOES NO ONE LIKE MY GAME
>>333534364
>Really? No matter how shitty WoW gets it's still miles ahead of XIV.
In what way? XIV threads are all discussion about the game and WoW threads are just people bitching and complaining.
The fact that XIV is an enjoyable game makes it a triumph over WoW.
>>333534672
Anon there is nothing for you to say at this point, you literally sat down and admitted that you can't play CSGO since its too competitive for you, unfortunately CSGO has more than a single gamemode so you said that they are ALL too competitive for you.
Now I'm going to drop the subject harder than your mother dropped you, but feel free to respond if it makes you feel any better. It will just make you look like even more of a desperate backtracking retard though.
>>333534853
>Because I want an interactive story
>>333531265
aren't your tendies burning?
>>333534748
If a story exists and sounds interesting to me and the medium it chose was video games, how the fuck else do you expect me to experience that story?
>>333534929
>The kind of relaxation you want can be found in, literally, any other game.
And it can be found in FPS too so what's the problem? All I see is a teenager telling me I shouldn't be allowed to enjoy something in a way I like because he doesn't want me to. Fuck you.
>>333535112
Fuck off SJW
>>333530562
TF2 is far more hardcore than OW as far as competitive play is concerned.
>>333535160
>how the fuck else do you expect me to experience that story?
Movie? Book?
Dude, its a video game. GAME. You are supposed to play GAMES for the GAMEPLAY.
>And it can be found in FPS too so what's the problem?
You could be playing something like Battlefield 4, CS:GO, Insurgency, Red Orchestra, anything that has more skill and benefit towards the player.
But you choose to play stuff like CoD instead. So yes, people are going to laugh at you.
>>333535309
Cool, then OW will be even better for what I want? Not really deterring me in any way here
Wtf is tick rate and why is it so important?
>>333528552
if the recent Tracer's butt scandal is anything to go on, Blizzard is a bunch of idiots.
>>333530701
How the fuck is this not a game breaking issue and why are people okay with it.
This legit looks unplayable.
>>333535397
>battlefield
>more skill than CoD
Nigga lets be real here for a second both are exactly the same level of casual pandering, one just happens to have larger maps.
>>333535404
Not really.
Unless you don't like aiming or thinking about the game. Then OW would be perfect.
>>333535397
>Movie? Book?
How the fuck does that work? I cannot magically transform a game into a book or movie. Your complaint should be levelled at the fucking developper if anyone.
>Dude, its a video game. GAME. You are supposed to play GAMES for the GAMEPLAY.
I am playing and have been playing since before you were born kiddo. You dislike how I play or enjoy my games and don't get it isn't up to you to decide how I spend my money or time, fucktard
>anything that has more skill and benefit towards the player.
I don't fucking want that, autist. I am not interested in a competitive FPS. I have fucking SFV for my competitive tryhard fix, I want to fucking relax some time and some faggot on /v/ can't stop me.
>>333528552
From what I heard, the high tick rate for COD and etc is because their hitboxes were originally very crappy and they needed the high tick rate to compensate for it. The line of reasoning I heard is that the hitboxes in Overwatch are really well done(and I have seen this in matches) so the high tickrate becomes less of an issue.
Will it seriously affect gameplay? It doesn't seem like it will because lots of people enjoy it and sniping is a very powerful thing in Overwatch. Maybe when the open beta starts and early access is opened Blizzard will have to dial it up because the large amount of complaints backed up by real ingame examples.
Right now if 1%(made up number, please don't autism) of people are actually getting hurt by the tick rate, then it will become a lot more noticeable when half a million+ people are playing it opening month instead of the couple thousand they have now.
>>333535627
One also happens to have
>10 hours before you regen health
>vehicles
>recoil, and generally harder to use guns
>team-based play
>>333535638
Cool, OW sounds like a good game for what I want. Thanks for the help anon, but I feel you were trying hard to convert me to your shitpost side.
>>333535675
I'm saying if you want a story, read a fucking book or movie. There is nothing, NOTHING in games that compares to actual writers making stories.
>You dislike how I play or enjoy my games and don't get it isn't up to you to decide how I spend my money or time, fucktard
>I want to fucking relax some time and some faggot on /v/ can't stop me
Well I mean its really not that easy to stop someone who chooses to be retarded.
You can only put enough energy into one actual game, and need to put the rest into interactive movies and "press x to win". If you can't see whats wrong with that you are beyond saving
>>333535738
>10 hours before you regen health
Unless you play the medic class, oh wait never mind they made the Assault class have medkits now because dfkljdölsjöhhdhdh
>vehicles
You mean the things that players literally can't do anything about other than run away or respawn with different equipment.
Real show of skill there killing people who can't even hurt you.
>recoil, and generally harder to use guns
Hard de har
>team-based play
Now your just fucking with me.
Seriously are you 14 or something, who the fuck actually thinks there is a rivalry between CoD and BF, both are casual games intended for the mass market.
CoD is focused on smaller maps and infantry combat battlefield is focused on larger maps and """"""""""""""""""""""""""""r3alism""""""""""""""""""""""
Both games are fairly casual when you get down to it and CoD has a far more active pro scene, you have to actually be pretty stupid to think either game is more hardcore than the other.
>>333536105
>There is nothing, NOTHING in games that compares to actual writers making stories.
Factsandopinions.png
>insult insult ad hom
You have nothing more to say. Let me boil your entire fucking position down here
>STOP USING YOUR MONEY AND TIME TO ENJOY YOUR HOBBIES IN A WAY I DO NOT PERSONALLY APPROVE OF!
We done here kiddo?
>>333536290
>Unless you play the medic class
>healing is health regen
hurr
>You mean the things that players literally can't do anything about other than run away or respawn with different equipment.
>why do I have to have the tools and/or teammates do overcome a problem, I should just shoot at it to have it blow up
DURR
>>333534951
WoW has better gameplay, raids, dungeons and PvP and is actually fun to play.
Are you really comparing the games based on /v/ threads?
Because XIV is full of furfags posting their waifu all day.
>>333536303
Okay, give me who you think is the best writer in gaming, or a well written game.
>insult insult ad hom
>fucktard
>autist
>faggot
>since you were born kiddo
well good job their anon
Stay butt rustled you are a casual and being called out for it
The human eye can't see past 20 tick rate
>>333536671
Nigga you are seriously implying the fact that I have to push 3 to get my health regen makes BF somehow less casual than CoD then you are out of your mind.
>why do I have to have the tools and/or teammates do overcome a problem, I should just shoot at it to have it blow up
Good thing they are in CoD too
Good thing CoD has them tied to an actual resource.
Seriously how old are you?
If you made the comparison to ARMA or even some of the older BF mods like PR you might have had a point, but at it's current iterations CoD and BF are on the exact same level on the casual scale.
>>333537064
>Good thing they are in CoD too
Except BF vehicles are player controlled, can last the entire game, and play a big part in winning
And CoD vehicles are AI, can be shot at, last 5 seconds, and only slightly effect TDM
>I have to push 3 to get my health regen
what?
>>333534181
I constantly forget that Overwatch even has console ports
Has anyone even bought the console versions?
>>333537304
>Except BF vehicles are player controlled
And so are the majority of scorestreaks and the ones that are not are intentionally dumb and have shit aim.
Also you are implying that score/killstreaks don't have an impact on the outcome of matches?
REALLY?
Now answer my question, how old are you? I'm curios because it has honestly been quite a while since I last met someone who actually knows so little about videogames that they treat CoD and BF as some überdifferent games, shit even the marketing guys at EA gave up on trying to be the CoD killer years ago so where the fuck did you come from?
What is the tickrate of a human brain?
>>333535258
Wrong insult. SJWs are the ones that just want an equivalent to watching 6 hours of Netflix and sometimes twiddling buttons.
>>333529904
It only states that 20.8 is the default rate for custom games. There's no word on the tick rate for comp games.
>>333535574
If there's a game that brought this issue into the spotlight, it was Battlefield 4. A lot of people started talking about netcode and tickrate after the issues that game had which thankfully were fixed
meh, looks fun. I don't need every FPS game to be CS:GO, I'll probably give it a whirl
>>333531962
She had 2 arrows in her leg and 1 health bar left when he fired both arrows, both missed and her health remained the same until JUSTICE RAINS FOR ABOVE's basic aoe attack clipped her.
>>333535489
Remember how in older cod games you would shoot someone, you would die, then on their killcam you didnt even shoot?
Thats tick rate.
>>333528552
both
>It's a TF2 has good netcode episode
>It's a valvedrones calls me a blizzdrone strawman for calling them out on their bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5Zve17_IWwTF2 is a great game, but it has garbage netcode and not even the console e server configs can change that.
>falling for the tick rate meme
Then why haven't people in the beta been going out of their minds if it's so bad?
>>333531402
I love how close those arrows were but didn't register, that's how it should be