>triple battle size
>can't take a garrisoned castle alone
>no weak links in Sarranid territory
>sandnigger milf rebel hating me more with every passing day because I can't get her any fucking land
I've made a huge mistake
>>333488321
>supporting a claimant
>>333489105
It seemed like a valorous deed at the time.
>>333489402
Honestly, 300 battle size is as far as you should go in vanilla. The game just shits itself as far as battle is concerned past that.
>>333489462
Also, prime siege tactics are getting as many high level crossbowmen (archers in general, but xbows are better for this) and sitting them right outside the walls. When you ranged troops run dry just retreat and repeat until the enemy are weakened to the point of easy capture.
>>333489761
Usually do that but I started as a sarranid mercenary on this character, all I have are a few veteran footmen, huscarls and lots of cavalry. With no access to a garrison I'll need to either disband half my army or lose them in battle.
Think I'll need to dump her ass and become a vassal elsewhere.
>>333489761
They can run out? I've watched huscarls chuck axes throughout entire duration of siege.
>>333490267
Defenders have regenerating ammo.
>>333490267
Yeah, if you're feeling brave (and have a horse) you can solo sea raiders at the start by baiting out their throwing weapons and shooting them point black when they run out.
>>333490124
Sometimes its hard to let go of a good company, but Ive had to dump armies in the past because they just didn't fit with what I was trying to do.
I would say just dump the bitch and fuck off the nordland or some shit.
>attacking Rhodok castle
>getting rekt by sharpshooters before i am even of the ladder
>>333490868
>>333490868
>>333491260
>attacking Grunwalder castle
>realise it's THAT map
>>333488321
nigger theres already a general in /vg/ fuck off
>>333490838
NICE SKIRT FAGGOT
>>333491649
Say that to my faceplate and not on-tapestry and see what happens knave.
>>333491870
>>333492204
I wonder if trying to roll as a polearm footsoldier would actually work
>>333492405
ruh-roh
>>333489761
>All that effort
>Prime siege tactics
No, the prime siege tactic is to own at least 40 Huscarls, set the battle size to 40 (or whatever the lowest was, 30?) and just watch them anally rape a garrison of 2 billion 40 at a time.
>>333492597
>cheating
>>333492491
Depends on the mod, I'm not sure about vanilla but playing a blender-footman is perfectly viable in most popular mods. Pretty satisfying to shred groups of enemies faster then you ever could on a horse.
Also, footmen are obviously superior for any siege battle.
>>333492673
>Abusing retreating to reload is perfectly fine
>Abusing battle size is too far though
>>333492491
Maybe if you get yourself a pole-hammer or hafted blade?
Playing commander on-foot is balls hard though, you'll micromanage for a second and take an arrow or bolt to the face.
>>333492768
You still lose shit in retreats, It also makes actual sense. Not to mention you lose plenty of troops in the actual firefight part.
I'ts still bullshit cheese, but lowering battle size is so cheety you may as well enable the actual cheats and insta-win any siege.
>>333492673
Really, is there a non-retarded way of going about sieges in Mount & Blade that's really viable? Playing max damage big army sizes you'll have a really tough time sieging unless you get cheesy.
>>333490603
Since fucking when
>>333492764
>vanilla
yeah I quessed trying to go non-shield on vanilla is pretty much suicide because
>>333492828
>take an arrow or bolt to the face
>>333493067
Always? I think anyway.
You can test it yourself i you really want to, defenders will never stop shooting.
>>333492983
You still lose Huscarls in low battle sizes, it's just fighting normally with 1000 huscarls without having that many.
>>333493162
I'm pretty sure they don't, or they don't when I'm defending, it becomes extremely obvious if you use Vaegir marksmen due to their high fire rate, and it's the reason I so often use mostly Rhodok Marksmen so they don't blow their load in the first 5 minutes and spend the rest of the siege being useless.
>>333493324
Not sure then, I havn't played vanilla in a long time but Ive had long-ass sieges with modded super fast firing bowmen keep going till the end.
I'm also talking about 6 different unrelated mods here, so idk.
>>333493439
Well then I'd say one of them is probably the missing link here.
BANNERLORD FUCKING WHEN
>>333493516
The current year.Right? They didn't delay did they?
No health, no buddies, 30 angry elite foot knights with great-axes.
Hit it.
I've played vanilla and floris, can anyone recommend some other mods?
The Warsword wait is killing me.
>>333493718
what mod
>>333494034
>tfw you're a Napoleonic player so you'll have to wait even longer after Bannerlord's release for a followup to your favorite mode
H-Here I go guys
>>333493978
Native Expansion is worth a go, really enjoyed it overall but I vague remember it raping the Nord troop tree
>>333494463
>No shield
You're fucked. RIP anon.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tV782zx.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>333493978
Prophecy of Pendor if you want some wacky fantasy nonsense. Just don't go in expecting anything resembling balance.
>>333494626
since my opponent was a bunch of looters it didnt go so bad, but I did take a bit of damage and had I go against troops with better armor and weapons I would have died without a doubt.
>>333494773
Nice work, you're really going to have a shit time though. Think of it as a first hand learning experience for why people of rank went to battle on horse back.
Do you guys bother with the army commands like setting archers on high ground, flanking with cavalry and that shit or just go full deathball?
>>333491870
>>333495021
I used to do it sometimes because it works but when I build up a sizeable force of Swadian Knights it's just a lot faster to let them mash into the enemy head first and come out unscathed every time.
>>333495021
archers on the highest ground
infantry infront of them
horses on me for a flank
thats how i've always done it and it hasnt failed me yet
>>333495021
Use nothing but heavy knight deathball
>>333495016
yeah I went against some bow armed bandits and had a not-so-fun time
so I hired some meatshields
>>333495021
I always stop my range troops somewhere on the highground and lead the cavalary.
>Mfw me and 30 knights charge into the enemy from side.
>>333490603
I dont believe it
I played as rhodoks recently and told my crossbows to hold fire and after quite some time the defenders stopped shooting
>>333495021
Yeah, even use different squads for things like light cavalry/shieldless infantry so they don't find themselves leading the charge. Makes a massive difference with low surgery skills.
>>333495395
>>333494463
>>333494773
is that 1257?
>>333493978
AD 1257
Khergit what the fuck are they good for?
>>333489462
This, it's all well and good having 600 units on the screen and your rig can take it, but theres engine limitations on the ai. You've probably noticed them locking up every now and then, especially in sieges.
>>333495534
When you want to make a meme 500 horseback only army travelling at sanic speeds.
>>333495534
Cav archery faggotry
>>333488321
>implying Bannerlord is ever coming out
Can't wait for the inevitable PlayStation 4 announcement so they can fund the rest of the game development and release it in 2019.
>>333495459
nah DiplomacyI cheated to get myself enough money to buy a good armor and a polearmbecause fuck actually working to get money for the sake of trying something out
>>333495612
>especially in sieges
Don't even need a high count for this shit to happen.
>Enemy archers walked onto the ladder for some reason
>They stand there blocking the path shooting at the wall
>Re-enforcements clogged up behind them
>When they run out of arrows they still don't fucking move
I have to jump onto the damn ladder just to kill them so their friends can hurry up and die too.
>>333493978
Gekokujo is what I'm playing right now, and that's pretty fun.
>>333495709
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdSzGoTc_ns
>>333491545
>open field battle
>starts you inside some river basin
>have to climb a fucking mountain to get out
>you cant get a proper charge and you get demolished
>>333495636
Hit and run tactics aren't viable when your mounted archers all collide and stop dead upon attempting to execute anything tighter than a 150 degree turn.
>>333496040
Get cavalry to follow you while footmen charge
>>333496040
Order them to give more spacing. It lessens the faggotry.
>>333495760
AI is probably the most important feature for me on bannerlord, AI in its current state means
Skirmishers don't work in vanilla, hacky in mods
Archers aim for your position with a z offset, meaning they always aim for what would be the head if stood up straight which leads to issues, such as inaccurate weapons such as thrown weapons become even worse in ai hands.
Horse archers straight up don't work
Spearmen are terrible and only slightly improve in some mods due to huge bonus to cavalry, other than that they are whiff central
Gear allocation, not really ai but it means spearmen cannot be guaranteed a spear and a sword.
All these issues mean heavy cavalry battles just win everything in both cost efficiency and numbers efficiency, and it all stems from ai.
>>333495709
>The Passage Of Time
>>333489402
source?
>>333496386
Betting it's a protest outside a japanese embassy, korea is infamous for the shit they do there
![[CROSSBOW FIRE INTENSIFIES].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xiBJO3Z.jpg "[CROSSBOW FIRE INTENSIFIES].jpg")
>>333490868
>>333491545
>>333495709
Hey at least if it comes out in 2019, VR will be cheaper and you can play Bannerlord in VR.
>>333496805
VR would be outlawed by then.
I don't think I have ever attempted to become a king. I feel awful thinking about betraying my King.
>>333495534
KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNN
>>333496249
>pravend
>sunor
>jaculan
I wonder if they'll also have culmarr castle in there as well
>>333496939
>Liking any of the kings
Dear god why?
>>333496939
>finally completely subsume Kerghit and Sarranid land my bid to become god emperor of Calradia
>spend next 3 years chasing after rogue lords of fallen aforementioned fallen states that refuse to yield and move at 14+ speed on the map and do nothing but burn my villages
Why again can I not execute these fuckers?
>>333497526
The rules of chivalry anon.
>>333494746
Has the fucker finally updated that shit yet?
The balance is goddamn terrible, I agree. There are horse armies everywhere, so every battle takes several minutes.
>>333497526
Pretty sure there's a mod with that option but like fuck I can remember it. The temptation to kill them all before late game would get too strong though, maybe it's for the best
>>333498805
Well, if you killed most of them then it's lategame already
>>333497437
I LOVE King Ragnar. My very first playthrough he gave me almost the entirerty of the Swadian kingdom and and some capital I can't remember in rhodok lands.
