>terrible campaign
>shit story
>no plot
>breaks canon to exist
>tries to use nostalgia to make up for bad level design
>shit character development
>return to battlefield or die
>shit mp maps
>mp maps reused from campaign
>other mp maps are in Forge World
>shit ranking
>ranking can only be seen on Bungie.net
>grind to rank up
>get new armor by grinding
>most of the weapon sandbox was shit
>cardboard vehicles
>slow ass based movement speed
>low ass jump height
>bloom on every weapon
>armor abilities
>loadouts
>nuke grenades
>sword block with any weapon
>broken melee
>shit health system that was nothing like CE
>motion blur causing ghosting
>film grain filter
>desatuarated color palette
>on-rails shooting
>MAC gun
>cock teases
>shit replacements to covenant weapons
>the removal of Brute weapons and vehicles
>gimped theater
>arcade Firefight
>only two grenade types
>only being able to carry two grenades with >only tow grenade types
>gimped Elite customization
>Elites are only playable in modes that are made for them (Elite Slayer, Invasion)
>Forge World is gray
>ally AI is the most retarded in the entire series
>no bleedthrough
>boring as fuck
>no "Halo" epic moments
>doesn't feel like Halo
>replacing flashlight with night vision
>enemy AI have six-sense
>>333457367
that is some pretty poor bait honestly
you could do much better
>terrible campaign
>shit story
Wow, sounds like every Halo.
>breaks canon to exist
Somebody mad that his fanfiction novel was decanonized?
But I'm not a huge Halofag so I'll acknowledge your other points
>return to battlefield or die
Pretty sure "Killed by the Guardians" was a thing before Reach
>slow ass based movement speed
That's like, every fucking Halo
>Elites are only playable in modes that are made for them (Elite Slayer, Invasion)
No one played Elites in 3 anyway
>>333457484
>that is some pretty poor bait honestly
reach fags and beyond are worse than sm4sh kids
>>333457738
>Actually defends Reach
:^)
>look /v/ I'm shitting on reach gimme your upboats.
>>333457934
>>333458242
>reachfags our the worst
>posts an emoticon and a reaction face
desu all halofags are idiots. Halo was never good. Ever.
>>333458549
Oh oh I triggered the tripfags too.
>>333457738
I thought everyone wanted to play as the dinosaurs
more than half of these complaints can be applied to all halos. Jesus Christ, I know t's all you consolefags have but why debate over which shit is the shittiest.
>>333457367
I really liked it and you can't do shit about that.
>>333457367
I only liked it for the forge mode shit you could do. The story mode was actual garbage though, and the multiplayer was disappointing to say the least.
>>333459668
You would like halo 5
Best forge ever made, you can group, duplicate, weld, and script objects
The multiplayer is good. 1,000x better than halo 4, and the closest to traditional gameplay we've had since 3.(just got 2 more new maps today. All DLC is free)
Of course, campaign is fucking garbage and there's no split-screen
>>333459127
Say what you know and what you don't know and shut up.
You clearly don't know shit about Halo since you say Reach is like the trilogy; go play your shitty Call of Doom game you always wanted for your shit PC, tripfag.
HOLY SHIT OP THANK YOU REACH KILLED HALO
You did it OP!!
You rekt halo reach!
Good job, now that shitty game can finally be exposed for what it truly is, after all these years
People who say reach is the best are retarded
But if you want to talk about a bad halo, for the love of God talk about halo 4. That game is an abomination in every single aspect.
terrible story
Low res muddy graphics
Generic sci-fi music
Multiplayer with killstreaks, kill-cams, loadouts, armor abilities, classes, and perks
Shit art design, Spartan armor is all terrible looking
Honestly, I hate that game so much
I had fun playing the campaign solo legendary :^)
>>333461002
The people that actually try to argue that 4 is better than Reach are braindead.
>>333458549
that's why it literally started mlg right ..?
>>333461563
The only thing I'll give 4 over reach is some of the MP maps were pretty cool, and had cool settings, even though they looked like shit with the low res textures and low res skyboxes and shit level of detail distance on things like grass and models
coming from the competitive scene 1 and 2 are the only halo's that matter. 3 needed to be customized so much with forge to actually make it competitive and reach was fucking dropped from mlg
>>333457367
Reach's soundrack is a 10/10 and no other halo game i feel has come close
>>333461653
Nice rhetoric, underage.
Cancer making more cancer doesn't make it any less cancer.
Better than 4 or 5 at least
>>333461653
>started mlg
Wew lad
>>333462652
you really are wrong for hating on it. idk what's worse. people who still hate it unironically or the ones who suddenly like it when halo 5 is one of the worst
H-how is ODST generally regarded here?
>>333462819
thank god it had halo 3's multiplayer and didn't turn into reach bullshit
>>333462819
odst is generally regarded to be the best of all the halos here
which is odd, because it doesn't get that praise anywhere else
>>333463038
yeah because /v/ is full of casuals and can only enjoy the music in video games
>>333462596
>a faggot that didn't play Halo ODST
I pity you
>>333457367
ARE YOU READY
FOR
HALO REACH??
>>333463239
Deference for Darkness and Skyline are godly, true, but the rest of the soundtrack just feels forgettable
Reach had 10/10s all around
>>333463038
I remember I made a thread called what went wrong with ODST on /v/. many Halo fans had different opinions then the one you're trying to imply.
>>333463297
ready?
READY
DOSNT
EVEN
FUCKING
EXPLAIN IT!!!!!!!
>>333460318
There's nothing traditional about sprinting, sliding, ads and climbing.
>>333457367
Fine, I'll bite.
>terrible campaign
Subjective, it had some of the best cutscene direction in Halo history.
>shit story
Also subjective
>no plot
You're wrong there
>breaks canon to exist
>MUH BOOOOOKS
Nylundfags gtfo
>tries to use nostalgia to make up for bad level design
How so? Proof, examples pls (inb4 "ur a shill)
>shit character development
I'll give you that, though they're Spartans, not autistic power rangers from 343's lore.
>return to battlefield or die
That was only on points you weren't supposed to access anyway. In older Halos they would either have a soft barrier, kill barrier, or an invisible wall.
>shit mp maps
*fun
Though not big team CTF on Sandtrap fun
>mp maps reused from campaign
I'll give you that. Same point as above though lol
>other mp maps are in Forge World
Not a legitimate complaint
>shit ranking
Tru senpai
>ranking can only be seen on Bungie.net
>what is Service Record?
>grind to rank up
Why would you want to max rank anyway? No point
>get new armor by grinding
Anyone who cared about the cosmetics were literally autistic
>most of the weapon sandbox was shit
Basically the same arsenal as the previous Halo titles minus the shitty brute weapons. So you're saying Halo's weapons were shit all along? :3
>cardboard vehicles
Not if you didn't fucking drive headlong into battle like a retard
>slow ass based movement speed
It's been the same move speed since H1, probably faster with the addition of sprint.
>low ass jump height
As opposed to moon bounding in Halo 1? Jump height has been consistent since Halo 2, excluding ODST
>bloom on every weapon
Then quit spamming your shots, you're worse that button mashers
Cont'd...
>>333457367
>>333464403
>armor abilities
All I can give you on that is Armor Lock, that was shit even after the nerf.
>loadouts
Which were unified in classic playlists
>nuke grenades
Plasmas had the same damage attributes as H3's, frags had the same attributes as H2 and H3's
>sword block with any weapon
Why not?
>broken melee
Post-1.1 reverted it back to H3-style melee
>shit health system that was nothing like CE
But it was everything like CE: get shot, die
>motion blur causing ghosting
That's something I haven't experienced
>film grain filter
Not on my CRT LeL
>desatuarated color palette
Welcome to the early 2010s
>on-rails shooting
On one mission
>MAC gun
Which was badass
>cock teases
Are you even trying?
>shit replacements to covenant weapons
>the removal of Brute weapons and vehicles
Brutes a shit anywayz
>gimped theater
>arcade Firefight
Firefight was always arcade-y,
>only two grenade types
Easier to balance, spikes were basically Plasmas anyway.
>gimped Elite customization
Sangheilifags the worst
>Elites are only playable in modes that are made for them (Elite Slayer, Invasion)
"
>Forge World is gray
*Forge World objects are gray
>ally AI is the most retarded in the entire series
It may be shit, not as shit as CE's
>no bleedthrough
?
>boring as fuck
Subjective
>no "Halo" epic moments
Are you even trying?
>doesn't feel like Halo
>no explanation
LoL
>replacing flashlight with night vision
*VISR
And that's not a problem, that's a nitpick
>enemy AI have six-sense
You were just shit. This was the easiest Halo to solo on Legendary.
CONGRATURATION, U R AN FAGGOT
>>333464393
But everyone starts with them built in.
It's not like 4 or reach where every player can have different cancerous armor abilities, or in 4's case, perks, loadouts, classes, and killstreaks as well
>>333464403
>>333464515
>Oh my god this amount of defending
Holy shit my sides hurt so bad.
did anyone else tear up when you had to do the firefight at the end and you can see your armor about to break
>>333464515
Two things I forgot:
>shit replacements to covenant weapons
The concussion rifle was functionally identical to the brute shot, minus the gay blade on the back
>gimped theater
>you can finally rewind a campaign replay
>gimped
>G I M P E D
no.
>>333464729
Doesn't matter though, Halo was always shit. Fun shit, but objectively shit :^)
>>333464403
>>333464515
Christ dude, talk about taking the bait hook, line and sinker
>>333457367
>no plot
I lost it this is actually pretty funny OP.
>>333464617
My point being, the elements I listed aren't core mechanics to halo. If feels too CODish now.
Sprint was balanced when it was an ability and the addition of faster movement speed could spark up an entirely new argument all together (map design, control, etc.)
Don't even get me started on H5 dashing.
>>333464814
This explains why you don't know shit about Halo, you're a fucking tripfag, lol.
>>333457367
Still a billion light years ahead of Halo 5
>>333460587
Halo is shit. Admit it. They are all shit. Shit lore, shit main character, super shit weapons, shit voice, cheesy as fuck dialogue, shit animations, shit movement speed and gay aliens. It is babbys first shooter.
>>333465179
Halo 4 is what you are talking about
That game was literally COD
Speaking as someone who hates COD, hates halo 4, loves halo1,2 and 3,
Halo 5 is not like COD. The "ads" functions as zoom, it does not effect spray, spread,or accuracy. Sprinting is fine, the maps are balanced around it, unlike reach or 4, and your shields don't recharge if you sprint so only it's only use is to travel across the map quickly, not flee.
The other shit like boost I really don't use frequently enough to call important, I guess you could use it to get out of the way of a vehicle about to splatter you.
All in all, much better than being able to fly or go invincible or spawn with camo. Much better. It's definitely not traditional halo, but it's not bad and fits pretty well.
>>333465618
>5 that high
It's barely even better than 4.
>>333464393
What's wrong with those? Sprinting is something you have to think about because of the lack of shield regen, ADS is almost literally soping in, and climbing/sliding are fun additions.
>>333457367
who still talks about this shit?
>>333465667
its objectively better than reach, 4, ODST, and even 3 due to its massive custom and forge optionsthat will be irrelevant in 3 years due it no split screen :^)
>>333465618
>H5 anywhere near H2
>H5 anywhere near the glory of H3
>he didn't lead his shots in Halo 3 MP and still blames the game for being bad
>>333465808
>no splitscreen
>shit characters
>shit plot
>not a Halo game
>343 "we want the 5 year-old audience" Industries
WeW
>>333465808
>massive custom
IT LITERALLY HAS SIX GAME MODE COUNTING WARZONE.
It's only getting infection next fucking month. It only got the assault variants in goddamn january. Sure, forge is huge but to launch with less custom games then CE until FOUR months later is a fucking shambles. You can't even remake shit like speed halo because ALL unsc vehicles auto slow down when you hit their top speed now.
>>333465618
my rankings are
3>1>5>ODST>2>Reach>4
5 has my favorite multiplayer and gameplay mechanics, but it lacks in content quite a bit, though I am enjoying the frequent updates
>>333465667
>he's bad at halo 5
>>333465856
>he played 3 for the competitive aspect
>>333466008
>b-but it launched with nothing! Look its a bad game!
Its really good now though, the best/sad part is the community forge maps BTFO everything 343 has made, but they probably planned for that to happen. Leave it to any decent community to fix the devs mistakes for them
>>333465856
>implying the shit netcode allowed anyone to properly use the br consistently in halo 3
i love the game, but come on man. 3 is probably the least competitively focused of the entire series
>>333465618
>Halo 3 that low
>Halo 5 that high
Get the fuck out of here.
>>333457367
this game was shit
>>333465716
mm I can smell the tripfag in you and it's strong.
>>333466202
So you are more than happy to have paid 60bucks and have everything held back until a later date? Oh and the fact it couldn't even have honour rule infection either because there was no team switching in customs, forge, whatever for 3/4months either.
5 has good gameplay, everything else is a complete and utter disaster, like the fuck who said social had no place in halo, only competive 4v4 did
>>333465618
Reach was so shit that it singlehandedly turned me away from Microsoft consoles and indeed consoles as a whole.As fun as Halo 5 is, it shipped with an unforgivable shortage of content. It has most of what it was lacking at this point, but I resent the fact that I was essentially duped into early access.
>>333466253
3 was all about customs but thats pretty much it, campaign, music, etc were all the weakest in the trilogy
>>333457738
>>333457367
>>333458549
>>333459127
>>333460828
>>333461002
>>333463108
>>333464729
>>333464814
>>333465856
>>333466401
>>333464515
>he doesn't know what bleedthrough is
>>333466401
i suspect 5 had a very turbulent development cycle, ms rushed out mcc to give 343i an extra year of dev time for 5, and it still came out lacking in content
that said, like mgsv another unfinished game, im glad they polished the hell out of the gameplay above all
>>333464812
that level almost made the campaign worth it
>>333465620
>>333465716
Sprinting/clamber/sliding promote movement based gameplay as opposed to shooting.
Also, grenade indicators and Spartan call outs are lame as hell.
>Oh hey a grenade
>dash out of the way
>hooray for a get out of jail free card
>>333466385
I got and still get my money's worth in halo 5, which is more than I can say for other games that do the same practices as it.
And who said 343 didnt want social in 5? Of course they did, Warzone is made with social in mind! Dont forget ot buy req packs goy! ;)
I'm pretty new to this place, just a thought
Anyone else find 3 extremely unmemorable?
Halo CE defined the genre, it is a legend
Halo 2 mastered it added dual wield, had you play as arbiter, urban levels, scarabs, a masterpiece
Then 3 happened
Then in ODST you weren't god-given-form mc, you were the space swat, and it was a nice change of pace and atmoshpere, with more characters and environments
I liked Reach, mostly for firefight, since i like dramatic finales like the final mission. Didn't mind armor abilities all that much, guess i bought into the hype.
Tbh, didnt play much of 4, had new enemies, new areas, new weapons, it was a sequel.
Yet to play 5.
My point here is, every game has had something new and memorable, except three. i honestly cant think of anything particularly fun or exciting happening in three. they ended the story, and thats about all i remember (the warthog finale was cool)
Whenever i look at my halo collection, my eyes just pass right over halo 3, it wasn't anything new or exciting, im pretty sure they had choppers?
***Disclaimer:
I have not had XBL for much of my life. This is purely my view of the games from an offline standpoint. How well do i line up with /v/?
>>333457367
fuck you Boardwalk was good.
some of the other maps are okay.
>>333465618
Kill your fucking self
>>333466541
>le every opinion I don't like is bait face.bmp
>>333466593
I'm thinking you're right. The massive disconnect between the marketing material and the final plot, not to mention just how much content was delayed, means that they're either grossly incompetent or something serious happened along the way.okay, maybe those aren't mutually exclusive.
>>333457367
The only reason I played this game was to grind grind grind fucking grind that fucking Firefight mode to get the Marathon helmet and I still play the campaign just to see my sick custom armor. I know a bunch of speedrunning stuff for it now so I don't have to play much of it and just go cutscene to cutscene.
That armory/credits system was quite honestly the beginning of the end for Bungie signalling the sort of grinding shit they'd put in Destiny.
>>333466423
>campaign, music, etc were all the weakest in the trilogy
Now I know you're trolling.
>>333466671
You had me there for a second. Great moves, keep it up, proud of you.
>>333465618
Red = MP
Blue = campaign story
This is objectively the truest opinion
>>333467056
>can't take a joke
>>333467139
This is accurate.
>>333466687
H3 is super memorable for having a great ending to the original trilogy and introducing forge, theater, and much more in depth customs than Halo 2, but that's about it for me.
Still quite liked it.
>>333466687
>I'm pretty new to this place
Clearly you are, Halo 3 is arguably the most memorable in the trilogy.
>awesome Scarab battles
>massive missions
>4-player co-op campaign
>incredible community support not seen in any console shooter
The game was a masterpiece and defined the Xbox 360.
>>333466385
Free DLC
F R E E
But it's okay when bungie added content at a later date in their games
I'll admit halo 5 didn't have the most gametypes at launch, it was pitiful, but now there's plenty and TWO more fucking free maps got added today, both of which are pretty good
>>333467271
>great ending
>sets up for ominous sequel
No
>>333467139
Honestly if you boost Reach up a tad in both categories and massively lift up Halo 3 I have no problems with this list.
People do seem to forget that CE multiplayer was barebones as fuck though, did all you guys play the PC version or something?
>>333467281
The issue I have with 343 is that I dont want to play their forge maps in BTB since the cummounity map update, except guillotine which is pretty well made, but the rest can fuck off.
>>333466598
You can turn off Spartan callouts, which I did because they're annoying
>>333466982
Halo 2 had the strongest campaign, easily. Most missions, most intricate story.
3 had best multiplayer even if it was a little slower than 2's, because of customs and forge. At the time, they were fucking great.
>>333457367
>HE COULDN'T HANDLE BLOOM
>LITERALLY DON'T SPAM AND AIM
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
(-3)
>>333467349
That's not what it was at all. It was a bookend, Chief ended the trilogy the same way he started it, the war was over, everything was finished.
Just because they inevitably had to keep beating the money train doesn't change that.
>actually thinking "Wake me when you need me" wasn't amazing
>>333467139
This.
Halo 3 is best game.
It's everything great about Halo 2 without the OP as fuck BR, shitty cliffhanger, retarded brute boss fight, dull color palette- plus Halo 3 has better MM options, Forge, better custom games options, online 4-player co-op, and more.
Halo 2 is great but Halo 3 is better. The only defense anyone ever has against this objective fact is "b-bu-buh halo 3 babbies" which is a useless statement. They game out like three years apart. You aren't an oldfag. Stop using that as a defense you fucking weirdos.
Shoutout to ODST for having a phenomenal campaign though.
>>333467416
CE was the starting point, of course it was barebones but lets be real, LITERALLY WHO played Race?
>>333467281
>free
I have to tell idiots this on waypoint and apparently I have to tell idiots here, too: it ain't free if it's advertised. On TV, at E3, on the back of the fucking box, they advertised that these would be given to us. These updates were factored into the price from the word go, and that's even if most of these free updates weren't shit that got cut from launch for whatever reason.
Cold Storage was free. Tyrant and Darkstar ain't.
>>333467416
Yeah, 3 wasn't supposed to be as low as it was. Just slighlty under halo 2.
Blame shitty phone touch screen drawing. But you get the general idea.
>>333467542
I always forget that was even a gametype.
I'm guessing no one ever did anything other than drive around in circles on Blood Gulch.
>>333467525
Oh and I forgot to mention no fucktarded instant-kill jackal sniper bullshit in Halo 3. There are a couple in the first level, but they're way easier to kill.
P.S. Halo 5 can suck my fat fucking balls. They made forge better but ruined everything else. The campaign sucks ass, the armor sucks ass, the music sucks ass, the enemy designs suck ass, the new movement options suck ass, the weapon sandbox sucks ass- it's fucking awful.
Oh look another neo-/v/ Halo circlejerk thread
I want off this ride.
>>333467525
Aside from the shitty cliffhanger ending 2's campaign was several steps above 3's in every aspect, but other than that I agree with you.
>>333467139
>Halo 5 had better multiplayer than Halo 2 or 3
>Halo 2 had the best singleplayer
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAHAhaaAAAAAHAA
>>333467349
You're retarded
>finish the fight
>conclusion to the halo trilogy
It wasn't setting up for anything, the planet tease was just to say "yeah, chief and cortana are alive and will go on more adventures together, but his story that we wanted to tell is done, and continuing any further would be retarded because honestly how much can one guy save the universe"
>>333467439
Imma just jump in this thread to point out that bloom statistically favoured spamming at close and mid range until the title update, and 'aiming' is kind of loose here because of how much bullet magnetism reach had.
People didn't like the random element it added and 'pacing' isn't a mechanically difficult thing to do at all.
Heres your reply though bud its on the house this time.
>>333467826
>>Halo 2 had the best singleplayer
but this is correct?
>>333466598
>grenade indicators
Those aren't in the game
>dashing is somehow a bad thing
Couldn't you argue that moving/walking is a get out of jail free card too with this logic?
>>333467574
Lol, what?
I pay 60$ for each game
I get to download 4 free maps in halo 3
I get to download 5 maps o far in halo 5
I don't give a shit if it says on the box. If anything, it should be on the box, because in today's shitty industry free DLC is a good selling point.
>>333467349
>he doesn't like "Wake me... When you need me."
>he doesn't like Chief and Cortana being lost in space
>he doesn't like a perfect ending to the trilogy without killing off the protagonists
>he doesn't like Elites living in peace with humanity
>he doesn't like Arbiter being sad that Chief is gone
>he doesn't like the Marathon reference at the end
>he actually thinks the planet was a setup for a planned halo 4
it's impossible to have worse opinions. You are truly the dumbest human alive on the planet today.
>>333467574
But its still free though.
Also I'm sure only up to December update was held back, its painfully obvious with the shit like todays update, Assault still not having the announcer call it that, no commendations for hammer or assault variants, the awful share system, the awful pre-game menu system, the awful implementation of social gametypes, that these werent planned far ahead of time.
The outline existed like 1 arena and 1 warzone in update 1, two arena in update 2, etc, but as far as content goes, they make 70% of it up on the fly. Fucking look at the armor, they are already having to resort to reskins of legendary tier armor
>>333467826
No, halo 5 is supposed to be lower than 2 or 3
Excuse my shitty touch screen skills
What's wrong with halo 2's single player? Longest missions and best storyline
>>333468020
YOU GOT SOLD A SHITTY GAME WITH A TINY NUMBER OF HALF-FINISHED, SHITTY, LACKLUSTER MAPS
THEY SOLD YOU THIS SCHLOCK INSTEAD OF JUST GIVING YOU A BUNCH OF GOOD MAPS FROM THE START, AND PROMISED YOU "WE'LL GIVE YOU GOOD SHIT LATER".
NOW DO YOU REALLY PREFER THAT OVER A GAME THAT HAS TONS OF AWESOME MAPS RIGHT FROM THE GET-GO, THEN GIVES YOU MORE FREE ONES YOU WEREN'T EVEN LEGALLY FUCKING OWED LATER?
>>333457367
Best armour customization out of all the halos. Halo 4 is where the armour started looking terrible
>>333468110
>cliffhanger
>bad boss fights
>jackal snipers
>some of those levels are crazy linear
ODST was a better campaign. 2 is great but second best.
Reminder that the Halo 3 Legendary Planet is Marathon Mars and Master Chief is the Security Officer.
>>333467494
>>333468034
>>333467852
The regular ending is fine you retards, I'm talking about the legendary ending where it obviously sets up for more chief and cortana plot but isntead we get "lol we hate doing halo so no more chief and cortana but we're too pussy to ask MS to let us do Destiny instead of another Halo so lets ruin Halo with Reach and then commit corporate suicide by working with Activision"
>>333467139
Red=matchmaking
Blue=campaign
Green=custom games + forge
Why did Bungie throw out literally everything about the Fall of Reach when making the game?
I can see that they would want to make some changes I guess to make it better function as a game but what the fuck.
>No Spartan IIs anywhere, only Spartan IIIs who are Spartan IIs anyway
>The entire invasion by the Covenant is completely different for no real reason
>None of the actions in Fall of Reach are included, or even mentioned in the game
>WHERE WERE THE FUCKING MAC CANNONS BUNGIE
>What happens to Halsey doesn't match up with where she ends up in First Strike at all
>Lets shove Cortana in here for no reason
>Pillar of Autumn is on planet for no reason
>The space epic space battles are basically nonexistent
I just don't get it.
Plus they did such an abysmal job at making it seem like this was the might of the Covenant attacking humanity's strongest military planet, we got like 2 decent sized battles in the background and that's it. New Alexandria and Exodus did decent jobs at it but everything else was garbage.
Why did they do it /v/? The ending was the only good part and even that was kind of negated by how easy it was to survive forever.
>>333467435
>Most missions
can't really agree there, most of the missions were scripted as hell, I will give Halo 2's story but that is it. When came to campaign missions Halo 2 sat under both Halo CE and 3.
>>333468181
But it had more launch maps than halo reach and 3, nor counting forge in either. And now we get a new one or 2 each month for the next year or so.
Quality, I can agree with, since there was too many human themed maps.
>literally not liking free DLC
What the fuck is wrong with you
>>333468381
Why isn't Green at max for Halo 5?
>>333468381
Halo 5's forge is insanely better than reach. Customs, as well.
There's just no split-screen and a fairly lower playerbase.
>>333468372
You mean the planet i clearly acknowledged you fucking faggot? Chiefs story was finished perfectly in 3, then they had to dig him up and rape his corpse with 4&5
>>333468372
That was just a marathon reference you daft cunt. It's not setting up anything. It's just a safe assurance to dedicated fans who beat all these games on the hardest difficulty that "yes, chief and cortana aren't lost in space for all of time". It's the one feel-good note in an ending where basically everyone else fucking died.
You are reading into it way too fucking hard because of what 343i did to it afterward.
>>333468559no one plays halo 5
>>333468407
Halo 2 had fifteen missions in total
3 had 10
CE had 10
>>333468423
It's not free DLC if it was advertised as a selling point.
That's like buying a magazine subscription and then going "WHOA FUCKING 11 MONTHS OF MORE FREE MAGAZINES I THOUGHT I ONLY GOT 1 !!!!".
I'd also be less sour about it if 80% of the maps were boring as fucking sin and needlessly spaced out to take advance of their dumbass clamber mechanics.
>>333468020
>>333468084
It's about as free as that second sham-wow they give you for ordering in the next 20 minutes. They specifically arranged it so that you would be making these arguments, so that you'd be saying "I didn't have to pay extra for this" rather than "I bought these two together".
You've already subsidized the cost is my point.
>>333468601
He's a retard who has to take everything at face-value
He is like the retards who made halo 4 and saw the end planet and thought "" OMG SEQUEL HYPE??!""
>>333468590
>>333468601
All of Halo is marathon references but if they wanted to close the bookend, could've done it better.
343 did fuck up the story tremendously, but its because of that extra ending tidbit. They got an inch and went a mile
>>333468590
Halo Reach was the peak for community size
>>333468789
The same thing would have happened whether or not the legendary ending was a thing man.
>>333468695
So what, in reality you can say that it actually has the least. You can combine all of Chief and Arby's missions together with the similar missions that came after and you would get 7 total missions. Three levels short of Halo CE and 3.
>>333468708
>>333468770
I really didn't know it was possible to be this autistic
I guess Witcher 3 didn't have free DLC either. I guess mods aren't free because people buy games expecting to modify them.
I guess winning the lottery isn't really winning because you bought the ticket knowing there was a chance to win.
>>333468789
You would be bitching no matter what it was. Even if they were just lost in space you'd be going "WOW THEY SHOULD'VE JUST KILLED CHIEF". Even if they killed Chief, 343 would've brought him back to life.
Bungie ended those games. If you legitimately watched the ending and thought "here comes more games" that is 100% on you.
>>333468860
>it has the most missions
>until you combine them and slice the mission number in half
What's wrong with your brain?
>>333468829
Wait what no. Reach had less of a playerbase than Halo 3 did after like, a year.
The competitive players all went back to Halo 3 and then jumped ship to Halo 4 of all games too.
>>333468892
Nah, I was 100% fine with the regular ending. They didn't need to kill chief, in fact I hate protags just getting offed to end their story. Captain King floating in space with Cortana at his side was great.
>>333468995
Halo reach has a higher population than 4 nowadays, kek.
>>333461418
me too anon, I think I did the campaign on legendary three times
>>333457367
You seem mad but just to spite you i think this is one of my favorite Halo games of all time next to ODST and 2.
>>333469025
And the legendary ending is the same thing, it's just a little tease to say
"They aren't dead, and will go on more adventures, but we won't see them because this is the fucking end of the trilogy"
How many times do you retards want master chief to save the entire universe, for cuck's sake. 3 times was pushing it, 5 is ridiculous.
>>333468973
>Armory & Cairo Station
>Outskirts & Metropolis
>Arbiter & Oracle
>Delta Halo & Regret
>Sacred Icon & Quarantine Zone
>Gravemind & High Charity
>Uprising & Great Journey
You still gonna argue with me about this anon?
>>333469108
>willingly fighting 3 warden eternals at the same time on legendary 3 times
>>333468885
I will explain this one more time, and if you're still too fucking stupid to understand, then god help you.
IF I AM GOING TO SELL YOU A PRODUCT, WHATEVER I TELL YOU IS PART OF THE PACKAGE IS- GUESS WHAT?- PART OF THE FUCKING PACKAGE.
IF YOU DRIVE A CAR FOR THREE MILES RIGHT OFF OF THE LOT, YOU SHOULDN'T BE GOING "WOW THANKS FORD FOR THESE FREE MILES YOU ALLOWED MY CAR TO DRIVE"- YOU SHOULD BE TOTALLY NEUTRAL BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING EXPECTED FOR A CAR TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE THREE MILES WITHOUT BREAKING DOWN.
AGAIN, IF YOU BUY A SUBSCRIPTION TO A MAGAZINE, YOU ARE AUTOMATICALLY EXPECTED TO RECEIVE THE FOLLOWING 12 MONTHS OF MAGAZINES. ONLY A RETARD WOULD BE WOW'D THAT THOSE MAGAZINES ACTUALLY SHOWED UP ON HIS DOORSTEP.
ANY REASONABLE FUCKING HUMAN WITH A WORKING BRAIN WOULD JUST GO "YEAH THERE'S MY MAGAZINE THAT THEY FUCKING PROMISED ME".
>>333468708
Wanna come to McDonalds with me? If I buy a number 1 combo, I get free fries and a drink!Thank you for getting the point.
>>333469210
And the game is still longer than 1&3
>>333469210
Only Armory isn't an actual level but everything else is.
I don't see your reasoning, just because they come in pairs they only count as half? Everyone of those levels was a full fledged level dude.
>>333469171
he only saved the universe twice up to that point though, since he didnt finish the fight from 2 until 3 :^)
I think future halos shouldve focused on arbiter or someone else like in ODST but chief is their mascot so gotta be him. In fact I'm really upset Arbiter does fuck all in 5
>>333469040
Okay. The point is that Halo 3 beat Reach in playerbase five years into its lifespan and that Reach's multiplayer was even worse than 4s once they ironed out some of the retarded balance issues. I only bothered posting because that guy said
>Halo Reach was the peak for community size
Which is blatantly wrong because it got shit on by halo 3.
Also if you actually go back and play reach its all subhuman spics with 3 guests, which is basically like playing against easy AI.
>>333469226
You're autistic, anon
So it would be free if they announced it one minute after launch? After people already bought the game, not expecting free DLC?
No?
What about people who DID buy it, without knowing about the free DLC?
Like, let's say anyone who bought a digital copy because the DLC isn't advertised on the Xbox store page?
I never truly thought i'd encounter someone who says DLC isn't free because it says "free dlc will be available" on the box
>>333469226
So its a built in season pass?
>>333469348
And still scripted as hell too. I will at give that it still have that open feeling CE and 3 had but boy was it scripted.
>>333469527
>So it would be free if they announced it one minute after launch? After people already bought the game, not expecting free DLC?
Aay, you're getting it.
>>333469623
So its a built in season pass?
Essentially yeah. Halo 5 was early access in all but name.
>>333469226
>WOW THANKS FORD FOR THESE FREE MILES YOU ALLOWED MY CAR TO DRIVE
>Buying fords ever
>Not expecting the ford to break down after three miles.
>>333469761
>Halo 5 was early access in all but name.
Its not just Halo 5 that does this now though, Splatoon, SFV, even Destiny has this and you have to pay for the DLC and then wait for Bungie to actually unlock weapons or events isntead of letting you stumble onto it like in previous DLCs. Early AAACess.
But like i said though, I get way more out of Halo 5 than the other games I won that do this like Splatoon so I dont mind
>>333469761
Wait a minute, let's take a step back here...
For DLC:
So according to you, halo 5 (60$) + post launch maps added in updates free of charge
Is worse than halo 3/reach/4 (60$) with post launch maps that cost money ?
>>333469945
Well, I'm no hypocrite, if that puts you at ease; I didn't buy Splatoon and Destiny for that reason.
>>333470019
Not him, but I'm saying it isn't better. Even assuming all the maps are of equal quality, don't fucking put it on the box and tell me this is part of the package I'm buying if you want me to be impressed.
Even so, those free maps almost all suck big donkey dick, just like almost all the maps in the base game of Halo 5, so at the end of the day, yeah, it's worse.
>>333470019
I don't know where you're getting "worse" from. I'm saying that they aren't free. I'm saying you subsidized their cost, that you paid for them, when you bought the game initially.
Incidentally, it's not just the back of the box. This was advertised on TV and at an E3 press conference. What you describe in those who didn't know about the DLC are ignorant consumers not doing their research.
>>333470019
No one is talking about quality dude.
All anyone is saying is that they aren't free maps. They are part of the game you originally bought for money, they just took longer to release. It was advertised for months that "if you buy this, this stuff will also come with the package".
>>333470168
Alright, got it
You prefer games to have paid DLC rather than free updates, because it didnt say so on on the box
>>333470719
>You prefer games to have paid DLC rather than free updates, because it didnt say so on on the box
Know what? Fuck it. Sure, that's exactly what I'm saying. Glad you get it. Later, senpai.
>>333470369
Wait, so it doesn't matter if the box advertises "we will have DLC available for purchase" or if they announce it after launch?
It only matters if they DONT charge for the update/content/DLC/Whatever?
What annoys me most about the updates is that they just put the map into circulation, there's no playlist or anything that lets you play the newest stuff and only the newest stuff.
I seriously went three days without ever seeing the arena map that's a remix of Fathom despite playing a lot of swat and team arena and even then, I've only seen it in fiesta playlist. It also took a day of playing warzone to see the Noctus map
What the fuck?
>>333470369
>>333470791
>>333470946
You are all retarded my famalams.
In my to be quite honest opinion, more Content=more value for your money
So a 60$ game with free monthly updates is good. Better than a 60$ game with expensive DLC. But not as good as a 40$ on sale game with all the content already added, such as a game of the year edition.
>>333471169
>spends the entire thread totally missing the point
>lol ur dumb
Well, that's my cue to go to bed.
>>333471169
>>333470946
>>333470719
What the fuck did I say you turbonigger. I never made a value judgement.
All I said was that if you fucking advertise for months that players who buy the game will have access to new maps- and you even put that info on the back of the box as a selling point, they cannot be considered "free" maps. That's all.
Why are you so stupid. Holy shit.
>>333471251
Same, I gotta jet, this is fucking retarded. Good thread before this though, anons.
>>333471341
I never said they would be called free maps my ultimate niggnog. You're thinking of some other friend poster.
