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DEFEND THIS
>>333435268
I-I can't
VR is a massive scam
*blocks*
He, too easy.
*warps behind you*
*evil grin shows vampire teeth*
Die!
*slits your throat*
*bathes in your blood*
>>333435268
It is a consumer entertainment product, and if someone feels they would enjoy one enough to purchase it, then they are entitled to do so.
Was that a sufficient enough defense?
>>333435416
$1500
>$1500
One thousand five hundred dollars US dollars
>>333435268
I think that between it, the Rift and PSVR, it's the best VR headset on the market, and with the amount of immersion the DK2 offered, it should be something pretty special.
I just don't feel like people will really get to enjoy the room scale VR; it's only a stand-in for a decent input method, and people just don't have the space right now. I'd rather there was a proper solution before it adds to feature fragmentation (Touch not shipping with the Rift is on them, though).
>>333435407
>>333435407
>things you can't do while wearing those fucking goggles.
As an aside, where do you suppose the first 'Man's house robbed right under his nose while playing VR hentai porn games' will occur?
>>333435564
Toss an Apple logo on it and sell it for $3000. People can still buy something if they want it, this thing doesn't need to be defended, it's just a product.
>>333435664
Do you have the butt wiggle one?
>>333435268
It's the most fun I've had in forever. I don'r care if none of you faggots buy it or not. It's awesome, and fox-grapes.
>>333435268
Three
Dimensional
Pornography
>>333435268
what are those grooves in it for?
>>333435584
>proper integration
It's the only headset that has 360 deg tracking/roomscale/motion controls
>>333435268It's better than Oculus Rift.
>>333435841
For the EPIC industrial design
>>333435841
they literally serve no purpose
>>333435268
At least from what we currently know it doesn't track everything you do on your computer unlike the rift
>>333435841
Probably reference points for the head tracking to lock on to
Okay, got a sentry nest built. Now what?
>>333435820
/thread
The savoir and maker for every technology out there
>>333435841
No reason other than looking more cyberpunk.They're reference points, the Rift covers its version with fabric.
>>333435883
The Rift also has 'Room Scale'; it's just significantly more sensitive to occlusion due to the single reference point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_HlXzELHgo
>>333435745
Nah just the toothbrush one.
I'd like to see it though it's really fluid and nice and I like seeing it.
>>333435268
pov porn
>>333435989
Give me one thousand five hundred US dollars and I'll let you know.
>>333436020
I should really learn to just ctrl+s.
>>333435820
>Watch 360 VR porn
>Shits blurrier than scrambled adult cable channels on a CRT TV.
Sure is poor in here.
I always told you faggots that this VR meme would fail. I fucking told you Keith, you fucking faggot, always acting high and mighty because you pursued a fucking VR degree while I'm getting bitches in Electrical Engineering
Hey, can someone post those .gifs of the Giantbomb guys doing fucked up shit in VR.
>Hi don't mind me.
>I just single handily destroyed VR
>>333435564
>>333436059
What's this about $1500? I thought it was only $800
>>333435841
They make it go faster
>>333435564
It's $800?
>>333436180
I already ordered a Rift, silly.
I'm pretty concerned about the software side with the recent 'reveals' of how integrated it is to Oculus Home though - I may switch to the Vive and just wait it out.
>>333436226
>>333436207
Oh, I'm retarded.
Imagine shitposting in 3D with positional head tracking. It's just unbelievable.
>>333436059
I'll stop now. Enjoy your thread.
>>333436319
Maybe not once you factor in a pc good enough to run it. Hell the GTX 970 is not cheap.
>>333436337
Don't worry, anon. I laughed.From embarrassment
>>333436207
>ONLY $800
>>333435683
Why hasn't Apple been all over this yet? Since Jobs died they've been dead last when it comes to new tech.
Usually they're the ones casualizing this sort of stuff and leading the pack.
>>333436207
Damn. Only EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS. That's pretty cheap. Does that include tax and tip as well?
>>333435664
what is she holding in her left hand?
>>333436740
>Now you can waggle while also getting sick migraines at the same time
>>333436194
If you played every PC games available on steam in whatever the equivalent amount of time would be you would also end up with a few gems drowned out by an overwhelming sea of shit. Furthermore, going into every game so rapidly while skipping tutorials and speak and entertaining during cutscenes would even make a few games that would otherwise be well recieved look like garbage too.
I don't deny that there is a load of shit amongst the launch titles but some games, budget cuts, job simulator, hover junkers, space pirates, Xortax, do look promising. Not $800 promising probably but they show that VR can be good.
>>333435664
Pls find new gifs Estonia
>>333436740
this can't be real
>>333436915
wut
>>333436536
Because Apple are probably waiting for VR to become more mainstream, buy a small company that's doing something interesting them claim they invented VR
Or do what they did with tablet computers, wait for VR as it is now to not catch on then years later bring out a VR solution that's somehow worse than the first iterations and make tons of money off it
>>333436194
ya vr wagglan son?
>>333436886
There's no sea of shit though
The fucking thing isn't even out and the few games that its got are all shit
>>333435268
>No Half-life 3(vr), no Portal 3(vr)
its like they want it to tank on purpose to fuck everybody else over
>>333437161
If you think the games I listed by name as exceptions are all shit than the problem isn't the games. It's you.
Anyways it takes more than a few above average games to justify $800 so you can still shit post about VR all you like just be honest about it faggot.
>>333435268
Good hardware.
Good software will come in later.
It's the same with consolecucks, show me a console with a release lineup of of 30 good game.
In the meantime, bear with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnCh4HO12-k
WAGGLE MY SHIT UP
I was kind of hoping the launch of the rift and vive would mean more 3rd parties introducing modifications to existing games to allow the use of VR. Instead we are getting these tech demo games make is seem like VR is truly just hype.
I have only seen a few games that have these modifications and I was hoping modifications would come to games like Arma which seems like the perfect game to make use of the rift or vive.
>>333437276
This system is going to be dead in the water after a year. Nobody is going to develop for it because nobody wants to pay $800 for a system with two good games.
>>333437531
The only VR that will live on for a while is the sony one because they're going to pay developers to keep making games
>being an early adopter of this shit while no games support it
>>333437593
Google Cardboard/Samsung VR might actually have a chance. People already own most of the hardware and developers will actually produce content for those platforms, too.
>>333437593
You mean Vive since it's dev friendly and Valve is backing it.
PSVR is taking the same road as Oculus with muh shitty exclusivity
>>333437360
>show me a console with a release lineup of of 30 good game.
The only problem I see with it is the fact that a lot of the games are pretty tech-demoy, and the very high cost of entry with a PC factored in means that rather than a burst of sales at the start, it's going to be a slow burner of sales. It remains to be seen how that affects development. Realistically until a lot of the big problems are sorted out, I don't see myself using it as anything more of an augumentation for games, rather than a tailored experience.
>>333437628
VorpX.
>>333437360
what the fuck did i just watch
I want to live on the edge thats why.
>>333437715
An experience.
you guys do realize that valve is incorporating vr into their next tier of games
also source 2 will give the community a chance to make their own vr shit which will certainly be better than this first wave of indie trash
>>333437715
The future, anon.
It's a bright one.
>>333435268
muh real-time visual novel kawaii waifu pure love
>>333437531
software sells hardware, thats why people coughed up like $1500 for a ps1 or ps2 to play some shitty first gen games. at least it used to be that way.
i remember just how much people creamed themselves over gta 3 and metal gear 2, valve easily could get this kind of hype going
>>333437628
>no games
All it needs is ONE good driving or flight sim.
>>333435268
>mfw I got into a 4 hour long flame war on yesterday's stream because people didn't want to hear that it looked like shit
>>333435564
why does it matter how much it cost, if you want cheap vr get the gear vr, if you want even cheaper vr fold your own google cardbox
>why buy an expensive suit when a potato sack will cover my genitals just the same?
>>333437973
>over gta 3 and metal gear solid 2
To be fair, those games were something special that doesn't come along very often, I can't think of anything like that even for last gen.Also the games I bought my PS2 with.
>>333437628
>while no games support it
Except that existing games support it ?
>>333437851
>Source 2
>Good
Wew lad
>tfw not shipping until may
>falling for the vr meme
>>333438194
You can take the time to write down the huge list of games you would play with it.
>>333438386
>using vr for games instead of what it was intended for
>>333438025
Show me a more appealing design then.
>inb4 muh playstation VR
It look plasticy and cheap with the awful leds and head strap.
It has potential for porn
>>333438575
yeah but you need several other peripherals to get the real experience
>>333436881
I had never been motion sick in my life until I tried out the Occulus Rift. I really never want to use a VR headset again.
>>333436740
See, this always instantly puts me off of the whole VR+Motion controls is good idea.
No one can try to tell me that weakly waggling a plastic stick at things will ever in any way feel like the real thing.
Motion controls were a stupid gimmick when they first came out and they're still a stupid gimmick now. Combining them with a VR headset does not change that, in fact it feels like they are almost more of a gimmick as a result of the combination.
>>333436498
A few years ago something like that would cost 10,000.
>>333437983
I remember reading that Euro Truck are looking into adding VR support.
>>333436194
Budget Cuts looked legitimately interesting. Just not $860 interesting. Also it's not even out yet.
>>333439247
also you teleport around instead of walking
>>333436652
A cup with a mediocre gradient.
>>333435820
You can watch that shit using your phone and cardboard.
>>333439279
You can walk too. Watch some other gameplay videos other than the Giant Bomb one. There's some pretty neat maneuvers. Kinda the same idea as Space Pirate Trainer. You aren't running around but backing up and dodging attacks.
>>333439504
You could do a lot more with positional tracking
>Yfw you fell for the VR meme
>>333439543
>You can walk too
Only you have an empty warehouse. The Giant Bomb stream proved that the smaller minimum roomscale space that most people have is just not enough. You really do need the full 5mx5m for roomscale to actually matter.
>>333439220
merely eight hundred us dollars
>>333439775
You don't need that much to walk a bit enough to dodge. Also 5mx5m is the maximum recommended, it's not even what most are aiming for.
I gave the demo at the Microsoft store a try. The Vive is cool, but not $800 cool.
First was the demo where you just walk around a sunk pirate ship while a giant while swims by and waves its tail at you. Trying to walk around never felt comfortable since you can't escape the feeling of the think wire tether.
Space pirace simulator was pretty much a turret simulator. It was more of a motion controller test.
The most fun was the Google paint program. It felt more like sculpting than painting when you have three actual axis of drawing.
>>333440095
I'm referring to walking not dodging, which can be done on any headset with positional tracking. The deal is that without a massive space there is no desire to walk. When actually playing a game, you will generally prefer to teleport all the time rather than just walk two steps and then teleport. Walking around often only happens if you have the space to do it.
>mfw Oculus and Vive gets BTFO by Sony VR
S U M M E R
L E S S O N
I'm not defending their insistence on focusing on the goddamn waggle but outside of it everything is actually working as intended.
>watching movies in this thing is way better than any home cinema experience
>most of official launch software is garbage but there is more than enough VR ready games already. even older games like Morrowind are a blast
>stopped getting seasick after 2 days of active use even in older programs that don't support lean
>haven't tried porn yet but merely seeing naked figure or a sexy anime 3d model in this thing is exhilarating
Granted, I did not pay a cent for the one I am using and I would not recommend it for that price unless you've already tried it and are hyped without expecting full blown matrix from this thing.
>>333440965
By walk I guess I mean taking two steps to grab something within reach which is useful in Budget Cuts, like grabbing a thrown knife which I saw a bunch of people do. I'm not saying walk for transport but to pull off crazy maneuvers.
>>333441065
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJcjdPQdeDc
Harada making the dream come true
>>333439906
Are you poor? Tech is expensive.
I'm not even trolling or being an asshole. Technology is not supposed to be for poor people
>>333441193
Well, that's just weird. That has nothing to do with walking. You examples are just motion controllers in general, nothing to do with walking
>>333441447
Taking steps isn't walking?
>>333436020
It's still just 180 tracking, what's the point of vr if you always have to face the same direction?
>>333441574
Taking two steps isn't walking for anyone but a toddler.
>>333441065
Does Sony VR work on PC or is it literally just a PS4 thing?
>>333441720
It's 360, there's trackers on the back of the Rift too.
>>333441760
I think they said they might look into getting it on PC. I don't see why they wouldn't do that, it would literally be the smartest move they could do. Especially considering that people will mod the thing to work on the PC anyway
>>333441739
Well I think you're just getting into semantics here. Doesn't matter anyway.
>>333441085
Wait, how are you playing Morrowind on the Vive? That just has Rift injectors Or are you just talking about in virtual desktop or something?
>>333437001
It's a /pol/ meme
>defending shitty gimmicks
>>333441335
did you perhaps defend $599
>>333435841
>what are those grooves in it for?
Her pleasure.
>>333441085
>>watching movies in this thing is way better than any home cinema experience
Sorry but no. Only a poorfag that can't afford a decent home theater setup would say this. Even my $650 projector is better. Yes, the Vive has nice OLED screens with great motion, perfect 3D, and solid contrast but none of that matters when you're essentially watching SD quality with everything.
VR is and has always been for porn
Who in their right minds would support gimmicky shit like VR?
>>333438194
>tfw havent even saved up enough to order
>>333442297
You figure people stopped using motion control for the Wii two years after it was released and the Wii U being a disaster these companies would learn.
tfw STILL no tracking number
>>333436956
Its just some kind of 5 dollar steam game he is playing. Not suprising
post >yfw didn't fall for the VR meme
>>333442451
You know that isnt Adam Savage, right.
$99
![Adam-Savage-body[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/afrNHlc.jpg "Adam-Savage-body[1].jpg")
>>333442631
It's Will Smith from The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air
>>333442631
YOu're wrong bro >>333442746
>>333442691
Really the only headset worth its price. The resolution is just about as good as Vive/Rift, it's great for porn, has all the sport streams, and since all the VR games out are just mobile quality anyway, you can still play games on it.
>>333442443
And I can't imagine a VR game that's not casual trash either. I mean, what other input method will they use other than motion controls? If you use KB+M or a gamepad wouldn't that already ruin the complete immersion, which is fucking point for playing games in VR?
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1941651
>people who ordered after me have already received their vive
I don't want to live in this reality any more
>>333442861
>have to buy samshit phone
>shitty mobile games
>no positional tracking
You can get a 1080p chinese knock-off DK1 for $150 that can at least plug into a computer.
>>333442836
https://twitter.com/willsmith
Or maybe its Will Smith, used to be on Tested, now he works for Foo, its on his T-shirt, the webm was taken near the end of Giant Bomb's stream, where they used Foo's VR conference tech
![MV5BNTczMzk1MjU1MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDk2MzAyMg@@._V1_UY317_CR2,0,214,317_AL_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SA53frC.jpg "MV5BNTczMzk1MjU1MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDk2MzAyMg@@._V1_UY317_CR2,0,214,317_AL_[1].jpg")
>>333443042
Doesn't look anything like Will Smith and he's even wearing the same glasses >>333442746
>>333443042
Why would Will Smith bother with some shitty hipster game? He wouldn't even take 20 million for Independence Day 2.
>>333443189
>>333443157
Its obvious after his reverse Michael Jackson surgery he wants to make money as a rich white CEO of a Startup. dingus
>>333435841
Sink the sensors into the frame so they can only be seen from smaller angles.
>>333443302
Pretty shitty move after pulling that Oscar boycott
VR IS THE MOTION CONTROLS OF THE 2010s
DO NOT FALL FOR THE MEME
>>333443018
VR is all shitty mobile games whether on PC or not. All the chinese knockoffs are completely shit. They are not even close to DK1 or GearVR in tracking quality. Really if you want 1080p VR then you should get a DK2 or wait for PSVR and hope they get PC drivers. Anything else is just a dumb compromise. The professional headsets are still pretty shitty and the knockoffs make them look good.
>>333443583
>VR is all shitty mobile games whether on PC or not.
And they're even worse on GearVR which is saying something. No, GearVR is a shitty experience on the level of a knock-off but at least you can pirate shit on PC.
>>333435898
>can find no faults with industrial aesthetics and subsequently forced to meme hard
>>333443012
Time isn't the problem, it's the method of payment they used when preordering.
>>333436020
The Rift's LED constellation isn't even in the sameballparkas lighthouse
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/SteamVR-HTC-Vive-depth-Lighthouse-Tracking-System-Dissected-and-Explored/SteamV
>>333443871
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NvASoBVS9Wb7wPtu6KUb7j_9FWL0xuI5xbUOr5G7L1c/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=1965722695
E3 will have hundreds of real games with VR announced... right /v/? Right?
>>333442515
The way VR games are priced it could be $20+
>>333435841
HOLE TECHNOLOGY
>>333443961
Cockulus fags BTFO
>>333444184
Yes, all for PSVR
>>333442691
I made the mistake of buying this.
It's an interesting experience but there's blurry splotches in a few (30%) places of the lenses that ruin it. Tried out a couple of other units and the same problem, though in different areas.
With that kind of quality control I can't imagine anyone confidently buying a rift. Maybe people's eyes just gloss over it or something.
>>333444375
>>333444313
Based Sony wins again.
>>333435841
Those are the tracking sensors.
Everyone else replying to you is mentally retarded.
Rock Paper Shotgun have an amusingly honest piece about using the Vive in the real world. Basically it sucks.
Pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/uJytD1ME
Article:
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/04/06/htc-vive-vr-problems/
>>333435407
HEH, TOO EASY.
I WILL STAIN MAH HOUNDS, WITH YOU ARE BLOOD.
BOW BEFOH ME.
>>333445401
Ironic coming from the owner of a realdoll.
>>333445493
>honest
No, he said VR would fail before he even tried it. Wrote pieces on it before too. The Vive review was predictable. Just covering his own ass now. Filled with crying over the dumbest shit trying to find something to complain about.
I mean, I'm all for seeing criticisms that should be fixed but when you go full retard trying to make it look bad to make a point. Just makes you look like a manbaby.
>>333445941
Don't worry, hell start sucking it off when the only things that come out are "muh feels" walking simulators.
>>333445493
>Multiple paragraphs about how he had issues placing the lighthouses
Jesus, is Walker actually mentally challenged or what? I have 1 on a shelf, the other screwed into a wall, and the entire thing took me maybe 10 minutes to set up.
>>333446529
>Jesus, is Walker actually mentally challenged
Yes.
>>333435268
It's not Facebook shit? It's not a piece of cardboard?
>>333445941
>crying over the dumbest shit trying to find something to complain about
It sounds like it basically never worked for him. The stations kept losing tracking signal of the goggles and controllers.
"It literally doesn't work" is a legitimate thing to complain about.
>>333446529
Maybe he is a retard. But he's an experienced PC gamer (been playing longer than most of /v/ has been alive,) so if he has somehow fucked up the setup you can bet a lot of other people will too.
>>333446878
I think he didn't even try to set it up properly is what I came out of reading that review. He wanted it to fail.
>>333446878
Just because you've been doing something for a long time doesn't mean you aren't an idiot. There's plenty of people in the video game industry that are proof of that.
>>333447035
He spent multiple paragraphs documenting his attempts to set it up. Obviously he might just be lying (after being paid off by the feminist illuminati 2D monitor manufacturers,) but the article does indicate a lengthy attempt to set it up correctly.
>>333447487
I set it up myself. What he's talking is fucking ridiculous. Like a reenactment on one of those infomercials of some guy fucking up left and right.
>>333441978
Given the resolution of the displays within the headsets plus the head tracking stuff everyone should have seen this price point coming. $800 is understandable if you understand technology and what it takes to manufacture it.
>>333435268
>The sour grapes in this thread
Shut up guys, you know if you were rolling in the amount of money necessary to easily justify this purchase you would buy it in a heartbeat.I unabashedly would. But EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS. Even if it was half that price I'd still have second thoughts.
>>333436740
>>333447697
>$800 is understandable
>>333445493
>I am also a relatively well-off tech enthusiast.
stopped reading
ITT: Poor fags that can't afford shit whining about vive
>>333442863
Not really. If you can get immersed sitting in front of a screen that takes up a small portion of your field of view then you can do the same with a keyboard. I don't know why everyone is getting so hung up on the waggling when most of the games that have been demod don't use those controllers that way.
>>333448326
The steam community page for vive is rich with that
>>333436740
I like the fabio character sitting in the background, quietly watching on with rapt attention.
You can almost see his dawning regret when he tilts his head and squints his eyes.
>>333446320
I actually wan to vomit.
>>333436740
>>333448698
>... It shouldn't be like this.
>>333445401
>bothers me
what an insecure cuckold
>>333435268
I ain't defending shit on VR.
I'll wait and see what bullshit is gonna happen in the future.
It's a really cool piece of hardware, I'd get one if I could afford to.
I can't defend all the shitty software, though.
>>333436740
>Jeff is married to a vegan and now in the best shape of his life.
Yo is Drew gay? I feel like you never hear about him dating anyone but he's by far the best looking and most normal/iinteresting guy on the Bombcast. Is he just gaying it up and not mentioning it because gamers are such homophobic fags or what?
It isn't Oculus Rift
It's the PS4 of VR
>>333445941
>John Walker
Guy is consistently proven wrong about literally everything.
>>333448137
Look at the prices of displays at the resolutions that the Vive and Rift have. Look at the prices of track IR. Add those numbers together and see what you get.
>>333445493
>My argument is, succinctly, that it will not get a broad enough userbase for major publishers to recoup the hundreds of millions they’d need to spend on triple-A games, so will remain a novelty for relatively well-off tech enthusiasts.
This was echoed by Giantbomb too. $800 for a gaming peripheral is ridiculous and prohibitive.
>>333449245
all I see is $599 2.0
>>333449340
Ya and water is wet. Thanks for the input.
>>333449592
You're welcome, I thought it might help the undeserved lambasting that link was getting.
>>333449535
$599 in 2006 was worth: $719.91 in 2016
>>333449535
Could you be meming any harder?
>>333449812
you have no idea what I'm capable of
Anyone else willing to bet VR wont exist in 5 years?
>>333450160
VR is the next madcatz.
>>333450272
that doesnt make ANY sense
>>333450272
When is Madcatz making their own VR?
>still haven't gotten my email confirmation yet
All this waiting is killing me
What a fucking scam. I feel sorry for the stupid faggots who kickstarted this shit.
>>333450572
Vive wasn't Kickstarted.
The Rift is the Kickstarter oneand is objectively worse.
I don't want to defend it.
The oculus is the better porn machine. All Illusion games are patched with earlier Oculus SDK.
Oculus Rift will support earlier SDKs eventually, but if Vivers ever want hentai games they're going to have to beg for the mercy of the internet to patch them for them.
Only 1 Adult game has been announced for the vive. (Holodexx ) The rest are for Oculus only, or launch at an "undefined date" later.
SteamVR games are not vive exclusive, but oculus games give you access to both without waiting for hacks.
Pornhub.com/vr only supports the Oculus now.To use the same videos on vive, you have to download 2 different programs - a program to rip the videos, and then whirligig to play them.
Vivefags own up, Oculus has all the content, and the backing of the porn industry.
in b4 "BUT MUH HOLODEXX"
Vivefags on suicide watch
>>333450846
>porn industry
I don't care about 3D porn. I want the one that will let me go to sleep at night with my superior 2D waifu.
>>333450327
showy, expensive and rickety all at once
>>333435268
You can now play all your fucking games on OLED-tech. You don't even need VR titles, that shit alone is worth triple the price they are asking.
>>333450160
No.
Even if this wave fails, they'll just try again in 20 years with new technology. And if this wave doesn't have the technology - it does, by and large - the one in 20 years will.
Prices will likely drop or stay the same as tech improves and competition expands - Lighthouse is supposed to be an open standard, after all - and we'll be getting better, cheaper VR headsets. The first time around, there was not remotely enough graphical processing power to make good VR. You couldn't even render a wireframe at adequate framerates, and the "Sword of Damocles", a VR headset from the time, could only render in wireframe, had huge lag, ran at 10 FPS and had to be suspended from the ceiling. We've come a long way, and I'm willing to believe that we DO have the technology today to provide an acceptable level of graphical fidelity while simultaneously maintaining an acceptable framerate. There's a good chance that PSVR, the Vive, and the Oculus Rift will all succeed in some way, and one or two may die off and never receive a second version, but I'm willing to put money on there eventually being a Vive 2 or whatever they call it.
>>333450954
You want the Oculus then, because all hentai game mods are on the oculus, and have not, nor will they ever be on the vive.
>in b4 BUT SOMEONE WILL MAKE THEM WORK ON VIVE WAAAH
>>333450558
now that its getting all shit over Im actually thinking about cancelling my pre order. The negative feedback loop is taking effect.
>>333451006
Says someone who's never tried it.
"Rickety" is an untruth.
>>333450846
The Oculus is more commercially backed of course. It has billions of dollars thrown at it. But the Vive is the more technologically superior VR product and essentially superior in every aspect to the Oculus, and I think that matters.
>>333451271
what would you know about it?
>>333451016
"Virtual desktop" type display through the headset looks terrible with everything that exists now. It's like you're looking at maybe a 720p monitor because of the resolution of the headset. You can't read anything close to normal sized text on the virtual display, let alone see the crisp texture details that a traditional OLED display would give you.
>>333451172
>and have not, nor will they ever be on the vive.
https://gitlab.com/LibreVR/Revive
>>333451330
The betamax was better than vhs. VHS won though.
>>333451330
It's not just people that are "bought out" buddy. Everyone that is modding adult games or creating 2d waifu content is doing it on Oculus FIRST, and vive is an afterthought.
Vive is not the PS4. Vive is the Xbos, original. Technically superior to everything with no content, and fighting against an already established content base.
>>333445073
Fur textures are getting out of hand
>>333445390
120Hz native would be wonderful, but lets face it PS4 doesn't have enough power to harness it without the games looking janky as shit or very simplistic.
It will be tough as it is achieving 90Hz native framerate on PS4 without sacrificing a metric fuckton of quality. The PS4's GPU is equivalent to a 7870 with optimization.
The average joe might not care about the graphical downgrade unless it is extremely obvious.
Reprjection/time warp should not be a crutch to rely on, native frame rate must be around 90Hz.
Reprojecting 90Hz up to 120Hz would look smoother compared to 90Hz native on PC. But compared to 120Hz native it obviously would not be better as there would be plenty of missing details since it doesn't fetch a new render.
PSVR is nice for its price, it is the price bracket Oculus was targeting before going full retard. HTC Vive at the moment is obviously the best option overall not taking into account cost.
None of the HMDs at the moment look good enough FoV and Resolution wise, but that is as much as our current hardware can handle unless you make the HMDs far too cost prohibitive not even taking into account the cost of the HMD which will require a high end multi GPU setup.
I don't even think are any mass produced 4K OLED screens that can do 90Hz at the moment. And even then it will be barely enough since you need around 8~16K per eye depending on how far you stretch the FoV to increase the dpi to acceptable levels.
>>333435268
idk, sudden spike in disposable consumer tech carries over into cheaper industrial usage.
half baked gimmicky sims aside, it remains to be seen if slapping this shit on your face all day every day will result in more effective computing or not.
the mouse and keyboard are important computing tools, the joystick not so much
>>333451860
>8~16K per eye
[citation needed]
>>333451657
>https://gitlab.com/LibreVR/Revive
Cool. So you have some proof that someone on the internet is working on something. Because nobody ever abandoned these random-ass little internet github projects, ever.
Why depend on the mercy of the internet to give you content when the Oculus is the superior content machine?
>>333451689
And the VHS market exploded because they played friendly with porn producers. Not even memeing.
>>333452001
http://www.vrfocus.com/2015/03/abrash-vr-needs-hit-16k-match-retinal-resolution/
>>333452195
So 5K-16K total, not per eye. Gotcha.
>>333452272
my bad
>>333451330
the rift has the power of ad revenue though.
I'm in college to become an engineer, and one of these days, I'll be rich enough to afford both the Oculus AND the Vive!
>>333452195
He went back on that and said
>Given which, the obvious question is: how high does VR resolution need to go before it’s good enough? I don’t know what would be ideal, but getting to parity with monitors in terms of pixel density seems like a reasonable target. Given a 90-degree field of view in both directions, 4K-by-4K resolution would be close to achieving that, and 8K-by-8K would exceed it.
>>333451330
Beta lost to VHS, though.
>>333452768
>Are ya winnin', son?
>>333452768
what's with the white suit?
>>333435268
I think it got potential if it is being marketed as an arcade machine game
>>333453103
It's called peacocking for his PUA target, faggot.
>>333451116
So basically wait for the failiure to launch and back the winner?
Sweet but i aint spending 1200aud to betatest valves vr.
And theres no games at the moment either
>>333453103
harder to see stains
>>333453103
It wasn't always white.
>>333453550
>no marty vr simulator
;_;
The only acceptable reason to buy into VR now is for porn / hentai. And if you buy a Vive for that, you are wrong.
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>>333450846
>>333451172
>>333453764
$3 was deposited into your Facebook account, Mark.
>>333453907
>this is all valvedrones have left when they realize the opposite opinion is 100% correct.
The butthurt is strong.
>>333454094
All VR that isn't less that $100 is gay and dumb.
>>333437983
>one
>paying 800 dollars for one game
Really?
>>333450846
>>333451172
Nekopara is coming to Vive. You're pretty much right though, Oculus looks like it'll have the best waifu porn lineup. Who knows what'll happen from here on out though, maybe the Vive will get some surprise support.
>>333450846
>Pornhub.com/vr only supports the Oculus now
It also supports Google Cardboard and Gear VR (which is why there is Oculus support).
Also, you can play SBS video in Virtual Desktop on the Vive.
>>333454462
Neko Works started dev-ing Nekopara on Oculus, first, though. Dig through the tweets. Vive is an afterthought again.
Glad you're able to see the light, anon.
I wanted the Vive because it's the technical superior device, but all content begins existing on the Oculus, at the very least, and content is 95% equal when touch controllers are released.
Don't get me wrong, I wanted to get the vive because I have glasses, but the layout of adult game and waifu content is clearly 150% in favor of the oculus, so i'll just wait until those foam insert people can truly make my oculus comfy because Palmer is a nigger and took out my foam insert.
>>333454591
Yep. But you have to find a way to rip the videos from the site ( Jdownloader ). You can play any sort of videos / content with the vive. Not natively though, you have to fuck with everything to make it work.
And all the actual cool content is going to be adult games, which are oculus first 95% of the time.
>>333453550
Cum stains white things brown.
>>333454819
Makes sense. The Rift has had a dev kit out for 4 years now. The Vive Pre is just a few months.
>>333455000
>you have to fuck with everything to make it work.
You literally just download it and open it in Virtual Desktop, no fuckery needed.
>>333435268
It will making jerking off more fun.
Only reason I can think of.
So any beta tester gone blind yet?
>>333448956
I've never heard Drew curse. I think he's just too pure for this world.
>>333435407
*it was a hologram*
