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So. Tell me why this game sucks.
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So. Tell me why this game sucks.
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>>333424667

Hey group of people that will always be different depending on the time I post this stupid thread.

Give me your anonymous opinions.
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>>333424778
Exactly
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It's a good game with very solid combat system, but it has a few problems
>weapon balance is an ass, of all weapons you get from bosses only shotgun is at least somehow useful, generic pistol wrecks shit from beginning to finish, to get two interesting weapons you need to 100% south and eastern areas
>most secrets boil down to retarded pixel hunting instead of being hidden actually creative, to 100% anything you need to hug all ledges or you risk missing that one invisible path in bumblefuck nowhere
>almost nothing from initial concepts made into the actual game, no crafting, no controlled bombs, no vehicles, no actual free world roaming, absolutely different bosses
>stamina consumption on some moves is way too high, dash poke should consume less than Vergil's nothen personnel slash
>by the time you unlock more than 3-4 costumes the game will fucking end
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>>333425472
I only found one lol, and I didn't find any keys at all by the end of my first playthrough.

I'm shocked that people are whinging about the difficulty.

Even The Witcher is fucking harder, and that's saying something.
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I feel constantly unrewarded.
When I get past something difficult, just think "eh, why the fuck did I have to do that?"
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>>333425617
If you found any of the witcher games harder than this then you were missing something foundational.
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30 fps
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why does Hyper Light Drifter list Anita Sarkeesian and Literally Who in its credits?
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5 hours.
Didn't deliver what promised
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>>333427814
They playtested an early build of the game and offered the creator some suggestions, apparently.
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>>333427814
they're in "special thanks"
any dev can put whoever they want in that list
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>>333425472
laser cannon and shotgun are good scrub.
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>>333427649
this
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>>333428132
>laser cannon
if you're talking about a thing you get for north boss, it's irrelevant compared to a simple pistol
shotgun is useless as in close combat you're better off doing sword charge
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>>333424802
>le pol boogeyman
great post champ
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>>333427973

ok, so WHY would the developer put those two in the special thanks section?
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>>333427958

why would the dev give them early access and ask for their input?
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Cuckveloper
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>>333428438
Because one of them is a cuck.
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PS4 port when??
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>>333428541
Because he wanted them to
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>>333428814

ok, so WHY would he want them to?
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>>333429012
I dunno you'd have to ask him personally
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I wish the absorb dash didn't seem to trigger randomly, but the games p ok for one fun playthrough. I will pay for it once it's 15 dollars or less.
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>>333425472
>>333425617
Ayy I didn't find any keys by the end of my first (and only) run either.

>>333424667
The game having bright separate colors & 30fps hurts your eyes.

Also dev has a feminist agenda and because I'm not a woman, I don't want to support him financially.

The game was pretty alright, I guess. I wish it was more free-roam like an RPG instead of being megaman with only 4 long stages.

Visual style, sound, atmosphere
5/5
Game itself as a whole package
2.8/5
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>>333429113
I think I figured out the problem.

You have to dodge when your character is in close vicinity of the projectile. You can't dodge into bullets from far away.
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So has anyone gotten all the tablets yet? I'm curious what happens when you find them all
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>>333429089

eh, I think I'll just pass on him and his game
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M+KB is literally cancer. I know he mentions to play with controller but still.
He could have given the courser a different color and not a slightly cloudy white hue.
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO SEE THIS WHEN THE WHOLE SCREEN EXPLODES WITH BRIGHT LOUD COLORS?
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>>333429740
Ok
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You never get to fight the robots.

There's no sense of progression and they didn't put effort into giving the player a sense of progression.

The plot and atmosphere was just a shittier, more light hearted yet edgier, and more obfuscated version of Majora's Mask, and you probably wouldn't know that unless you analyzed it.

The gameplay is shallow and doesn't really add to the game world or anything whatsoever. Without the gameplay nothing would really change.

Despite having dynamic music, there aren't dynamic sound effects.

It's incredibly short.

Anything to add?
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>>333429632
The monuments?
A little casket at the beginning area opens and you get a new skin. Also some lore, but it is still vague.
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>>333424667
pros:
cool backgrounds
cool pixel art
finished combat system

cons:
lack of variety in content
becomes repetitive too fast
bosses are easier than regular enemies and have at most three different attacks
level design is horrific
secrets are health packs and upgrades you don't need
no replayability whatsoever
story is actually autistic
dumb method of progression
lack of a sense of direction
buggy

it's boring
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>>333427814

wtf, seriously?

gonna refund this
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>>333430217
>new skin
fuck off
also i found a thread on leddit that says some theories about the world's lore, it kind of makes sense but not entirely
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>>333427814
well, there goes my will to buy this game

no fucking thank you
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Doesn't seem to have a whole lot of content, i heard the game can be beaten in 2-3 hours.

I'll pick it up when its at least 50% off.

Also, the soundtrack is surprisingly "meh" to me, and I like shit like Miami Nights.
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>>333430275
>secrets are health packs and upgrades you don't need
I have to agree with this to some extend.
After maybe 3 upgrades like chaindash, swordreflect and maybe powerslice the goldcards don't really seem that valuable anymore.
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>>333427814
Was the art done by the guy who did the sprites for TitanSouls? would explain alot.
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>>333430574
The soundtrack is fucking disappointing, coming from disasterpeace who's a really, really good artist, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaF5spsqMc8
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>>333424667
I wanted to do a "no death run" on my first playthrough, that shit did not last long.

The game is fun and Im determined to beat it, but some of the deaths I got were a bit unfair.
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Uninstalled because chain dash works like shit. The timing on that is too small for it to be useful.
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>>333431568
No. The second dash has a small window; all subsequent dashes have massive windows; you just have to get a feel for it.

>>333430991
Never dash more than 3 times or you'll slide off edges.
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>>333424802
Is he a progressive nutjob?

His twitter is surprisingly nutjob free.
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>>333431568
This is one of the worst arguments against thegame, I hate it too but seriously.

Most hardcore rhythm games require inputs within 2-frames per note for the highest possible score. Given this, shit like this exists:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5abY1vxXGn0

tight timing isn't a bad thing, as a matter of fact, it's inherently a good thing.
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>>333424802

its not the developer, its some faggot he hired that won't shut the fuck up about niggers and homos
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Currently fighting in the arena, it's pretty hard, especially the Ubergoblins.

I've got almost all tablets, keys and cores but I'll rely on hints for the rest I think, sometimes the game isn't coherent in its level design and spending one hour hugging everything isn't fun.
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>>333424667
I can't. I like it.
I would be dishonest if I were to explain why I think it sucks, when I don't.

That said, some people have said that most secrets being in just hidden walkthroughable walls is kind of lame, and some people are disappointed that a lot of stuff promised in the Kickstarter aren't in it.

But I liked it, despite that.
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>>333432142
Oh

I don't care then. If you analyze a group of people long enough, at least one of them has to be crazy.
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>>333428285
>Piercing 2 damage shots are irrelevant
>Instant 5 damage is useless
Not everyone is going to have Sword Charge first thing and even with it the Shotgun will get its damage out quicker.
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>>333432206
>When you make a Majora's Mask ripoff and people actually like it.
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>>333430701
So you ignored the bomb and gun shops?
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>>333428285
>2 damage piercing 4 bullets
>6 bullets 1 damage pistol
you might be retarded, also you can shoot your shotgun off way more times then you can charge your sword.
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>>333424667
Wow, they literally stole that shit right from Evangelion.
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>>333425617

i don't think the game is difficulty per se but the control sucks so much

i've found myself swinging at the air several times, or dash somewhere where i didn't want to dash

that's playing with mouse and keyboard, maybe it's better with a pad?
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>>333428285

Railgun and Shotgun are objectively the best weapons.

Railgun does two piercing damage instantly.
Shotgun does 5 damage and the endlag can be canceled with a sword slash.

Speed runs consist of only these two guns.
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>>333433781
>homage
>stole
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>>333433903
>it's not stealing if I call it a homage
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>>333433808
I play with a pad and its great.
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>>333433903
>I ran out of ideas for backgrounds, I'm just gonna put Eva Unit 01's iconic laughing scene from 2.22
>don't worry, it's not stealing because it's a "homage"
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>>333433824
>Railgun does two piercing damage instantly.
Sure you're not thinking of the laser?
Railgun is similar but can be charged for more damage.
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>>333434045

>ran out of ideas

anon, the dev has literally said in his kickstarter updates that he put in giants because he likes nausica and eva

there was no "ran out of ideas" - they never had an original idea in the first place.

fuck the whole story is just taken from his life and his heart disease
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>>333433903
>homage
>not stealing
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>>333434003
>>333434045
>giant anthropomorphic robots with glowing eyes and open mouths can only be in eva
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>>333428169
You framefags are literal cancer. Not being able to enjoy a game over something so trivial is fucking ridiculous.
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>>333434325
>backpedaling this hard
is it a homage to eva or not, dude?
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For what it's worth, I'm pretty mad about there not being co-op. I paid for the game when they promised Co-op, and I didn't get my fucking Co-op. They fucked up stretch goals in general of course, but that pisses me off the most.

From previous threads:

"Stretch goals not reached:

>co-op campaign
>competitive mode
>challenge mode + co-op challenge mode + online challenge mode
>ravenous mire
>burning caves
>Vita port currently being internally questioned
>Wii U port currently in limbo (doesn't matter whose fault it is, Heart Machine promised it in their stretch goals when they weren't 100% certain it would work)
>B-Side OST Remixes will not be featuring Baths (the creator of the trailer music) or Luke S.

Never minding the fact that the game and all the stretch goals are two years late. All the ports were supposed to have released at the same time as well.

Oh, and Co-Op mode in general isn't actually confirmed to still be happening - just that they hope they might be able to do it."
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>>333434325
Don't be retarded. It is exactly like the scene, same color, even down to the finer details like the spikes on each cheek and the red circle parts on the chest.
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>>333424667
Looks like Attack on Titan ripoff.
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>>333434480
>>333434325

It's from Nausica and Evangelion you massive faggots.

They're both the dev's favourite anime - he put them in just be-fucking-cause he felt like it.
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>>333434480
Hard to backpedal when I wasn't the first dude
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>>333434576
>he put them in just be-fucking-cause he has no creative aptitude of his own
ftfy
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>>333434407

>fps
>trivial

I don't know what the fuck's wrong with your eyes, but mine are fine, and 30fps is pretty bad when 60's possible.

http://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates-text&pps=240

Mind you, the frame rate is the absolute least of the game's problems.
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>>333424667
-if you die you respawn in the same room 90% of the time so the game doesnt have to bother balancing encounters.
-pacing is shit, youll be bored wandering through empty or near empty linear levels until you find the gauntlet room
-bosses are one step away from being mmorpg telegraph shit
-secrets are painfully easy, theyre one of 3 things: a small ledge, a path sticking out of some trees or a literal invisible platform that the game will tell you is there.
-shit keyboard controls
-short as fuck and has minimal content because none of the stretch goals are in despite being well over the deadline and well over the initial funding goal
-not worth playing again because of how linear the levels are
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>Fast pace action game
>Locked at 30 FPS
What were they thinking.
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>SJW developers failing to keep their crowdfunding promises
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>>333434501
>Don't be retarded
You should take your own advice, chum.
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>>333434650

>he has no creative aptitude of his own

Yeah, that's pretty much it. Thanks for the fix.
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>>333430574
You'll only beat it in 2-3 hours if you've already beaten it before
First playthrough is 6-8
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>>333424667
it doesn't, it's pretty fun.
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>>333434756
forgot your smug anime face, m8
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>>333434756
>>333434576
>>333434325
>>333424667
>>333433903


I won't buy your shitty game.
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>>333434717
>-shit keyboard controls
keyboards are meant for typing, not playing games.
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>>333435018
*frags you* stfu noob.
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>>333434783
I gotta ask, I've been in a few HLD threads thoses past days and there's always one guy posting stuff like that. Are you by chance the same dude?
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BUY MY GAME YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS!!!
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>>333434484
glad i only wasted $15

i was happy playing with it, but there are indeed stretch goals totally unrepresented

do not buy.
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>>333435261

Probably not - I don't really care where the artist got his ideas, just that he didn't put any of them to good use.
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>>333434215
>fuck the whole story is just taken from his life and his heart disease
So he was a blu dude who hunted lost tech and fought against some monster stabbing him in hallucinations, before settling for indie game devellopement? Damn
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am i the only one who got SICK and couldnt play the game due to the delayed camera pan? FUCK MAN 30 min in and i quit and refunded
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>>333424667
enemies get repetitive
unlock guns are pretty much shit
upgrading guns is shit
hugging walls to find "secret" pointless shit
cloaks don't change the game enough
game is too easy
gameplay is far too simple (everything boils down to kill the enemies for the door to unlock and progress)
key unlocks aint worth the time
game is pretty short
the "story" is shit
kickstarter content that didn't make it into the game
backtracking to find hidden shit is tedious
also hugging walls again because it's annoying as fuck especially in the forest place

yea alright game but it got old real quick, nothing innovating really

Reminds me of that one other indie game, but it only had bosses forgot the name.
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>>333429839
It's also fucking impossible to see in dark rooms
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>>333436181
Titan Souls?
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>>333435616

Story is seriously about the dev coming to terms with his terminal heart disease and the fact that his upcoming surgery has a very low rate of success. The different areas are just a quick representation of different parts of his life (with the barren south one probably about the game dev phase). I mean:
>Drifter is terminally ill throughout the game
>Final boss is literally heart cancer
>Drifter dies in the end
>Company is fucking called "Heart Machine"
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>>333436291

Yeah that.

I mean, HLD is better than Titan souls, but it's not a particularly good game.
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>>333436462
agree, however if titan souls had random enemies in the overworld I actually would put it a tier about HLD
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>>333434698
My eyes are perfectly fine and I have no problem with looking at things running 30 fps. The framefags on here that claim something is unplayable or hurts their eyes at 30 fps are the ones who have eye problems. Do you all wear glasses so you eyes are just genetically weaker or something?
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how long is the game
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>>333436364
People says that but honestly, apart from the moments where the Drifter cough up blood and the final boss appear (either through the hallucinations or the final fight), I really don't see how the others elements tie into the dev's heart problem
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>>333436909

Mostly because he's mentioned it in one of his streams.
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>>333436843
What the fuck is that? How the fuck does shit like that get greenlit.

The game is like 5 to 8 hours long.
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>>333436843
depends

if you're just looking to beat the game it can be done in under 6 hours

if you spend some times for secrets maybe 9 hours

if you want to 100% then probably 15 hours or some shit
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