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With a new expansion out, I'm sure a lot of people are going back to Baldur's Gate, let's talk about it.
I need help for a character build. I like the idea of making my guy a rape machine, and heard either Ken/Mage dual or fighter/mage multi is the way to go.
I plan on taking this character through BG1>SoD>SoA>ToB
My question is, would it be better to do Kensai 9 then dual to mage, or stick to multi fighter/mage?
>>333393903
multi>dual
>>333394012
Why though? I imagine it's easier to play multi over dual, but certain spells rely on caster level, yeah? Also playing multi, doesn't that basically leave out 9th level spells until late into ToB?
>>333393903
Multi fighter/mage is more insane in the very late game since you can massacre things with stuff like timestop + whirlwind. A Kensai/mage will never get high level fighter abilities.
>>333394164
>>333394012
what weapon to specialize in then?
>>333394112
sorry multi>dual because it will got allow you to get the epic fighter feats in TOB
kensi/mage
In bg1 two-handed swords and bows, Spider's Bane and the Free Action it grants lets you spam Web on enemies
In bg 2 katana specialisation for celestial fury and Dak'kon's Zerth Blade
>>333395471
edit on a phone spiders bane grants you free-action so you can spam web , bow because it's bg1
>>333395471
thanks famalam. Using the G3 tweakpack to allow grandmastery under multi, so will prolly just go straight for grorious nippon steel
The combat makes no sense. They expect me to control multiple people at once and there's all this nonsensical fake word shit like proficiencies and thacko.
The expansion is really bad, don't even play it.
Is there a good guide/walk through for this game?
>>333395729
>cheating when already using the most OP class combo
>>333393903
Make sure to multiclass as Male/Female
>>333395763
At least put some effort into it
Why are you wasting your time typing shit like that?
>>333393903
Monk is God in bg2, tho it's probably tough playing one in bg1
>>333395814
did you play it? I kind of rushed through it, and there was one thing I wanted to confirm:Are you supposed to not be able to damage the demon in the final fight? Does the fight really just revolve around you watching Caelar kill it? Nothing I tried seemed to touch it
>>333396658
Are they really that good? How about in ToB?
>>333394012
Dual warrior on level 7 to cleric. Much more casting power than multi class one.
>>333395471
>kensai/mage multi
impossible, you can't get kits multiclassing
>>333396742
Monks are absolutely godlike at higher levels
Magic resistance
Poison and disease immunity
Fists start hitting as +1 +2 +3 weapons the higher level you get
Fighter skills at high levels like whirlwind etc
Lots more I can't remember right now
Look them up, they are rape machines
>>333396658
they're absolute garbage at low levels because theyre basically an inferior fighter
>>333396742
>Are they really that good?
No, they're worse than a Fighter without a kit, let alone a Kensai.
>>333396976
You can do it with cheat engine.
>>333397391
>cheating in an easy game like BG
I stopped rolling for my fighter once i got a 18/99. Should I have kept trying for 00? is it possible to roll 19?
>>333396992
>Magic resistance
Makes it harder to heal or buff you and is possible to get through other methods.
>Poison and disease immunity
High saving throws might as well be this.
>Fists start hitting as +1 +2 +3 weapons the higher level you get
Actually they just count as those for bypassing DR.
>Fighter skills at high levels like whirlwind etc
Which the Fighter uses better by the time you get to that point because they hit much much much harder and have fewer attacks.
>>333397573
It doesn't matter, you'll get equipment that boosts it anyways.
>>333397573
>Should I have kept trying for 00?
it's an extra point of everything and like 50 more carrying weight or some shit
and no unless you half orc with mods or EE
>>333397573
why suffer with rerolling over and over? Just use EEKeeper to set your stats.
Technically, it IS possible to get 18 in everything in 100 in STR, just very unlikely.
Think of it as a timesaver.
>>333396992
They are useless for 2/3 of the game though.
>>333393903
kensage dual is stronger, since the late game is dominated by magic anyway
So how bad are monks in BG1? I want to roll a Sun Soul Monk and play pretend I'm a Hamon user
>>333397903
Nah, I played through bg2 and tob and mine was plenty useful.
>>333398158
Absolutely horrible until endgame. Bad survivability on every front, bad offense, bad utility.
On the plus side, Sun Soul Monk is actually extremely powerful when you get to that point because it has an ability that gives them massive massive fire damage on hit for awhile, and since Monks like to spam attacks...
>>333398158
very, theyre shit before they get all their fancy abilities and theres very little to counteract this because of their inability to use most equipment
Is the best character from Icewind Dale in SoD? Why bring back Belifet but not the GOAT?
>>333398491
endgame as in level 8 BG1 endgame or the whole series?
>>333393903
Play the new expansion, it's better because it has a Gender 3D graph instead of simple binary options
>>333398626
Endgame of BG1. They're completely useless until around level 6.
>>333398027
>>333395471
im so conflicted
>>333399508
kensai/mage multi is impossible unless you cheat
>start game on bhaal mode
>first enemy is a bulletsponge
>hit 20 hitpoints of him and he is still barely injured
>there must be something wrong
>quit
>options
>go back in
>suddenly I can change the difficulty although I started with bhaal mode where this is impossible
Thanks for nothing scamdog.
>>333399754
>thanks for nothing
What exactly are you mad about?
>>333400095
That the hardest difficulty is not working properly and IF it does work the "bulletsponges" are beyond fun.
>>333399737
Going kensai > Mage though, that means no helmets or guantlets, right? There's some pretty good ones too.
Would it maybe be better to go Fighter>Mage dual?
>>333400186
Ah ok fair enough
I want to play as a rape fighter who can buff with spells.
Do I got multi or dual? This decision is driving me crazy
>>333400275
>fighter>mage
no, you won't want to dual pure fighter
the no gauntlets bit kinds hurts but the kensai's extra fighterness makes up for it even so long as you dual at level 9
you could always try berserker>cleric
>>333401237
Well I was thinking with a pure fighter or berserker dualed into a mage I could use the elven chainmail, that simalcarum helmet and any number of guantlets.
Does 9 levels of the Kensai kit make up for that?I'm more inclined to dual then anything because I'm a huge fag and would rather play a human, and kind of go with what Imoen does, starting as one kit and going to mage, kind of playing in to being a son of bhaal thingy
>>333401157
you could do
>>333401237
or you could multi ranger/cleric and dual wield rape things
>>333401635
>the elven chainmail
dual'd kensai/mages can wear robes and get that sweet -2ac extra so they're better in that respect
the best gauntlets in bg2 put you either dead even or a teeny bit better based on when you dual
>>333401996
Thanks for the replies and helping me out here man, I've done HOURS of scouring old forum posts to decide on something I'll stick with. I've beaten 1 and 2 as a fighter/mage multi before without realizing some spells cast better the higher your mage level is, so I'm more inclined to dual this time around.
I've read 13 is the "optimal" time to dual ken/mage because of an extra 1/2 attack, but that would be a bitch to grind out.
Basically, if I play as a Ken(9)>Mage dual, will it be powerful enough to still melee fight in ToB and cast some sick ass spells?
>>333402282
yes, I never liked dualing at 13 because it takes fucking FOREVER to get back up to power once you go mage
>>333402960
How can someone have no dignity?
>>333394012
Dual classing is for minmaxers and multiclassing is for people who want to have fun.
>>333396658
Monks aren't in original BG1 unmodded.
>>333395471
>muh fighter HLA's
You're fucking retarded. The fighter HLA's are seriously fucking worthless if you can cast spells.
Stoneskin/PfMW > Hardiness
Improved Haste > Whirlwind
And the rest of the HLA's are fucking trash.
You'll lose fucking 20 mage levels for a few HLA's that are inferior to spells..
monk is godlike with tob level cap. at max level and with story mode permanent buffs you can get over 100% magic resist. since difficulty is based entirely around wizards, you're basically untouchable.
also fighter/mage is an extremely overrated meme class. mage is overrated to begin with, and giving up wizard levels is stupid. the most important thing in the game is killing enemy wizards, and using your own wizard is only the 3rd best way of doing it.
