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>Steam: Overwhelmingly positive reviews
>Destructoid 9.5
>Gamespot 11/10

Is this game really as good as they are saying it is?
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>indie pixel shit
>getting good reviews from circlejerk clique games media

Its 100% obviously garbage
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>>333382197
Couldn't tell you. They didn't implement online multiplayer.

So no buy from me.
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>>333382197
It looks like the same thing as Nuclear Throne from what little I've seen of it
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When you see an indie shit game getting rave reviews everywhere, you just know it's shit and the devs are buddies with the journalist clique
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>>333382197
>indie shit
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>>333382267
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MEGA WHEN?!
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>>333382197
>Is this game really as good as they are saying it is?
Is it ever?
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>>333382197
yes
>>333382398
>image.jpg
fuck off underage
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>HLD, super hyped indie game
>5 billion dollar K$
>almost 4 years in the making
>EtG gets released
>Everyone pretty much forgets that HLD exists

Huh.
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>bullet hell game

I doubt they're shills since bullet hell shmoops are literally only gameplay with no story or walking simulation

but...it's a bullet hell game. thanks for trying, but i'm not drunk or asian enough to enjoy them
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>>333382309
It's a bit more nuanced. NT is a very simple game.
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>>333382421

Yes, /v/ is just full of cynical assholes. I'm picking this game up later when it's on sale because I've watched some trailers, can think independently from this hivemind and like the gameplay and design
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>>333382351
this.
I don't trust anyone anymore.

Also I'm so tired of this pixel style too now.
I was playing snes roms on my wii through a SCART cable and it's almost as good as playing on a CRT TV.
I was playing Terranigma and you can really see they didn't really want to show sharp pixels at all in the art direction.

It really bugs me that everything is so sharp and jagged in the retro look to games now.
They even build the graphics to be more simplified to show pixels. Why do people want to do this?

There's such beautiful pixel work out there and it's all been completely overlooked, I guess because it's too much work to make something look good and nuanced.
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>>333382590
I played it for a bit and it was quite boring.
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Its just the FOTM indie roguelite.
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>>333382691
can attest to this, nuke is the thing you sit down and play when you want to shoot the SHIT OUT OF EVERYTHING HUGE GUTS RIP AND TEAR
gungeon is slower paced, like nuke mixed with some binding of isaac elements and great sound design.
personally I enjoy both very much
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>>333382534
>not having a smartphone to shitpost on the bus
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>>333382590
Because EtG is the superior game that also did everything better without Kickstarter.
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>>333382764
this, it's not engaging at all and I can't stand the artstyle
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I bought it on launch and completely regret it. long story short the game is stingy with the guns, and most of them arent viable, or just plain awful. this makes for bullet sponge enemies and bosses with health bars that eat up all your ammo
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I have over 130 hours in Nuclear Throne. Don't want to do it again
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>Decent animation, excellent presentation
>Guns suck, many are weaker than your starting peashooter. Items and syngergys are generally very boring compared to BoI
>Bosses range from piss easy to nearly unkillable. In addition to taking 4 hours to kill
>Consumables are ridiculously rare
>Difficulty is aimed at no-life nips and bullet hell autists

It's okay but not in any way on this planet deserving of 95%. Very polished but unfortunately very tedious and has some serious balance issues
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>>333382267
falling for the

>le indie pixle shite meme
>2016

im lmaoing at yer lyfe
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>>333382590
Hld was made by SJWs and thanked SJWs like Anita and Zoe Quinn for their work.
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>>333383008
>only 150
I would probably have over 200 but I pirated some of the earlier releases
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>vlambeer shit
>not getting 10/10
Any indieshit by a popular indie retard gets 10/10.
Those sites aren't about reviews but about views and clickbait, they don't want to make the retarded audience mad.
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>>333383227
what is hld?
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>>333383349
hyper light drifter
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>>333383349
Hairy long dick
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>>333382197

i played it for an hour yesterday, the presentation is great, you open the game to this rocking tune that sings "ENTER THE GUNGEONNNNNNN, ENTER THE GUNGEONNNNNN" and it really pumps you up, the game really fills your inner dakka, everything in the game is gun themed, the enemy are literaly bullets shell armed with guns (the one equipped with shotguns are shotgun shells) and there are teleporter that looks like a revolver reloading chamber

i was able to reach the first boss and it was a muscular seagull armed with a gatling gun, it was like allen'o nell from metal slug all over again

the actual game is pretty much like BoI, but instead of power ups you get different guns, i haven't played much so i haven't seen lot of different guns but it surprised me when i got a gun that shooted t-shirt, you also have a dodge roll button that makes you invincible while doing the animation so i guess that makes dodging hits easier
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how reviews work:
>does the developer/game have a big fanbase and hype
>it gets good reviews
only games no one gives a fuck about get bad reviews
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It's got some fun puns, but it's slow as hell you play compared to NT and doesn't seem to have many interesting interactions like Isaac.

If you want a bullet-hell Isaac you could do worse, but it's just too dull plinking enemies with bullets for me.

>>333383008
It's not really anything like NT, aside from a few features the whole genre shares.
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>>333382197
Flavor of the month
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>>333383487
It won't be that popular or last that long.
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Can we stop pretending roguelike is a good genre yet
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>>333382780
>That ShekelStein face

Ruined
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>>333383554
not roguelike, its roguelite
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>>333382709
sounds rough :(
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>>333383554
That genre has been going longer than you've been alive, respect your betters.
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>>333383705

I'm 53
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>>333383651
Yes rogue lite, because they're not at all like rogue, but they're sort of like rogue. Genius nomenclature ladies and cucks
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Why the fuck do so many games that lend themselves this much to multiplayer only have local co-op? This game, Nuclear Throne, Towerfall Ascension, the list goes on...

Seriously, how much does it cost to have online multiplayer on Steam?
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I like playing Binding of Isaac on my vita, shame this doesn't have a vita version.
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>>333383430

>it was a muscular seagull armed with a gatling gun, it was like allen'o nell from metal slug all over again

no. that is quite literally not who that boss is supposed to be/modeled after.

jesus christ. go play metal gear solid you tremendous fucking faggot.
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>>333382780
oh no a game will entertain you for a month or a week or two, that sounds awful.
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>>333383775
And I'm the Emperor of Earth.
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>>333382709
Do you think it's because of resolution? I'd imagine some designers just don't have the time to fill a 4k screen with pixels, whereas there were only a few thousand being put out on old CRTs.
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Gungeon is fun as hell. Don't let /v/'s bias against pixel art dissuade you, it's actually a really great game with a cool style and personality to it.

I don't know if I'd give it a 9.5 or whatever but it's definitely worth 15 bucks.


POST FAVORITE
>Character
>Gun
>Active Item
>Boss

So far for me it's:

-Huntress
-Mermaid Shotgun (forgot actual name)
-Bullet Time
-Cannonbalrog
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>>333383848
>I want to play bullet-hell games with 30ms of lag

Every single fucking thread, you're a broken record, fuck off already.
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How's the coop? Decent, or is it only "fun with friends" tier?
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>>333383992
>/v/'s bias against pixel art
Only newfags and redditors have that bias desu
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>>333382351
>Steam: Overwhelmingly positive reviews
So, you think the devs are buddies with literally 95% of the ~18,500 people who own it on Steam?
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Procedurally generated indie roguelike top down bullet hell with pixel art and RPG elements. What's it the Dark Souls of though?
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>>333383992
Marine's starting gun is too strong to choose anyone else over him.
Pilot is also potentially better in the long run because of his ability to lockpick chests, but his starting gun is so shit that it's a chore to get through the first few floors
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>>333384121
>What's it the Dark Souls of?

Procedurally generated indie roguelike top down bullet hell. Duh!
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Why is the cultist so terrible?
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>>333384121
It's the Dark Souls of fun
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>>333384252
Probably so that co-op wouldn't be much easier
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new flavour of the month
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>>333382197
it's pretty mechanically shallow, slow paced, and a good 80% of the weapons are trash

it can be pretty fun, has interesting art and fairly cool lore stuff but it's definitely not gonna be talked about in 2 months

also the fact the fact they got cobaltstreak to shill it makes me like it a lot less, that fat sperg irritates me
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>>333384341
>caring this much about who plays video games and denying yourself the possibility of enjoying them

did you post about how outraged you are on all your curated social media platforms bud?
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>>333383992
What a bunch of bullshit. That game is fucking retarded and only a mindless child could enjoy it. Thank god i didn´t pay any money and pirated it instead. Not even worth the 200mb on my harddrive.
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>>333384341
literally who
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>>333384469
>(You)

Now fuck off with your shit bait
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>its another indieshit game
>better give it 10/10!
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>>333384109
The game has been out for just over a day, why do you trust reviews from people who've put so little time into the game?
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>>333383992
The Robot
Haven't found an absolute favorite gun, but I'm a frequent buyer of the Light Gun, Sawed-Off, Wind-Up and the Super Soaker
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>>333382197
It's fucking awesome
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>>333384425
>"caring this much"
i really don't care much at all actually, but i went to his stream for a couple minutes to see if i could get a key and he kept spouting his le epic catchphrases over and over
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>>333382197
I've been playing it for 2 days, and yes, it is.

The only failure is that all weapons do pretty much the same damage, but other than that the gameplay is flawless.
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>>333384574
I'm not arguing that they're trusthworthy, I'm arguing that it's retarded to assume that everyone who likes the game is shilling.
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>>333383227
Source? I doubt what you said is true outside of one of the devs giving a shout out to one of them considering the game has no political agenda whatsoever
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>bullet lel games

absolute plebbest of the pleb genres
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do ya'll prefer controller or keyboard & mouse?

i've been trying both and they each have advantages, but i really cant decide.
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>>333382590
kek, no

HLD is already a success http://steamspy.com/app/257850
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>>333383038
this man speaks the truth
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speaking of hyper light drifter

i just bought gungeon and have been looking at HLD, but i've heard its only like 7 hours.

is it worth TWENTTY US DOLLARYDOOS for this game if it only has 7-10 hours of gametime?

is there any replay value?
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>>333382197
played it 2 hours

boring, but if you are fond of nuclear throne you'll probably love this one too
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>>333385008
HLD is 8 hours long only if you rush without exploring.
It took me 12 hours to bear and I've only found like 25% of all the secrets and collectables. Would take 20 hours or more for the full walkthrough
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>>333385008
no and no
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>>333382829
>Not keeping at least several dozen pictures on your phone so you don't have to look them up.
You disappoint me.
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>>333384848
Except your average consumer is a shill nowadays. Everyone feels the need for their purchases to be seen as good even here. Look at fallout 4 or people who argue the wicher combat is good.
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>>333385025
NT is a high speed chaotic romp with solid gunshoot, EtG is a slow bullet-hell game with rouge-lite elements.

They're not really that similar.
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>>333383038
Yeah I got the same feeling I might get refunded. The shooting doesn't feel good. And the dungeon itself is kind of boring.
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Marine > Hunter > Pilot > Convict
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>>333385607
Wow.
Look at this casual.
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>>333382197
Here's an opinion of the game from somebody who's actually played it and doesn't share the 4chan hivemind.

It's pretty good. Go in expecting a bullet hell. I'm a pretty decent gamer skill-wise, I've hit level 4 boss within 4 hours and the game seems to be 5 levels long, so there's that. Somebody who plays exclusively bullet hells will probably clear the game in the time I've put into it.

I fear the enemies will start becoming repetitive, the first few floors don't have much variety. I haven't wiki'd anything so there's still things I haven't figured out. I've had fun playing it so far.

Objectively, for 16$ I'd give it a 6.5/10, good clean gameplay, nice variety of weapons, bosses are pretty fun though cycling them on the early floors is sometimes repetitive (something I didn't feel with binding of isaac).
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>GUYS GUYS GUYS
>WHAT IF WE MADE ANOTHER FUCKING RUN'N'GUN WITH PROC GEN AND PIXEL GRAPHICS, BECAUSE THAT HAS, NEVER, EVER, BEEN, DONE, BEFORE!
>1111/10 So original GOTYOATYTEW
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>>333383939
Compared to games that last several months or even years, FOTM games in general are pretty worthless, not that I agree with that anon in saying HLD is a FOTM game.
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>>333385929
>every game has to reinvent the wheel and make it not round this time

Fuck off and play some gimmicky shite like Superhot.
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>>333382272
Multiplayer is pretty much impossible in this type of game online. If you weren't retarded youd understand why it's not in.
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>>333385937
You haven't got a fucking clue what FOTM really means, do you?
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>>333386253
Flavor of the Month, pretty self-explanatory and nothing I said contradicts that?
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You can get it for 6 dollars and for that price it is way more than worth it. Spent 5 hours on it yesterday and I'll be spending that if not more today as well
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>>333386184
>Wheel no. 74123 deserves a 11/10 rating for being another fucking wheel like the other 74122 wheels already produced
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>>333385902
wow anon , you're so special and unique and your opinion is truly ,categoricaly and objectively the best ; when i grow up i wanna be just like you
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>>333385937
HLD is the definition of a FOTM game
Even worse, not one knows or talks about it a week later.
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>>333386274
Yeah, you know the words, but you haven't got a clue what they mean because you're a newfag.

>>333386354
HLD isn't FOTM, there are barely any threads about it.
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gill-bearing aquatic craniate animal that lacks limbs with digits is capable of directional motion by turning over and over on an axis.
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>>333384545
Wow, two years later, still butthurt as fuck.
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>>333386682
>He thinks anyone will ever forget that blunder
Fat chance, Tumblrina.
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>>333386753
Wow, two years and five minutes later, still butthurt as fuck.
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>It's an '/ntg/ is dead, so wandering NT fans go into threads about similar games and bitch that it isn't exactly like NT' thread
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>>333384203
if you fail le epic 50/50 lockpick then the lock breaks and you can't even open the chest with a key
the crossbow sucks ass and needs to be more like NT's crossbow t b h
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>>333386682
Two years? Jesus H Christ, time is moving too fast for me.
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>>333386565
Sentient subterranean mineral formation is capable of producing armor with bullet reflecting properties at will in order to provide a means of defense against the unscrupulous general population.
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>>333384075
local tier
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>>333386867
Literally a minute later, guess reading a clock isn't part of the Women's studies course.
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>>333383636

>normal pudgy white girl baby face

?
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>>333384948
it was already a success before it was released you dumb cuckold, 600k from the kikestarter
anything else is icing on the cake
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>>333386913
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>All these people calling this shit a bullet hell
Jesus Christ, is this what it's like to be a rogue fag and hear everyone refer to whatever indie shit is FOTM as roguelikes?
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>>333387116
EtG has a lot of bullet-hell aspects though, it's obviously not a bullet-hell but you're autistic if you can't accept the term being used as a descriptor.

So yeah, you're dead right.
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>>333387116
>Translation: WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

Just in case anyone else wanted to read this post.
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>>333387101
>1990 was 26 years ago
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>>333387337
>Translation: [noisy wet shit]

Just in case anyone else wanted to read this post.
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Great gun variety, they've come up with a lot of unique stuff. Good map generation, great attention to detail, fun and distinguished enemies with different attack patterns.

THE GUNS SOUND AND FEEL LIKE SHIT
Everything else this game does well doesn't matter, the guns feel weak as fuck. They sound like pea shooters, they do barely any damage no matter how fancy they are (damage comes from item combinations and synergies, never from the gun itself).

Fucking damn it how could they fuck this up? It's not fun to shoot a gun. In a game called Enter the Gungeon. Seriously?
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I like it, it's fun
Hunter a QT
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>>333387308
Should doom be described as a bullet hell because you dodge brightly colored projectiles as part of the game?
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>>333386565
ye so what?
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>>333387116
Not until this becomes the standard bullet hell and traditional bullet hells are just considered elitist fag material.
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Are they gonna add cursor support for controller users? Seem like a real poor gameplay decision to me.
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>>333383992
>Convict
>The super fist, forgot name, shoots fist-shaped rocket
>Molotov for AOE
>Cannonbalrog as well
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>God, the guns are so bad
>God, I am so bad.

Both of these sentences mean exactly the same thing.
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>>333387481
no, doom isn't a top down game where you avoid lots and lots of bullets with the ability to destroy them all for a short time with the press of a button
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>>333387481
If the projectiles were arranged in specific patterns, had a tendency to radiate outwards in all directions from enemies, and had a consumable that destroyed all the projectiles on screen, then I'd say it would be fair to say it had a lot of bullet-hell aspects.
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>>333387584

You're a gun?
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>>333383038
This, I like the game so far but you sometimes just get shat on completely. Even more with little to no consumable drops. Cause I sure love treading 2 floors with only 1 heart.
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>>333387648
Yeah. As of now I'm just hoping people who are good at games come to wield me as opposed to shitshattered NT babbies that are upset everything doesn't die in one hit.
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>>333387648
You're not?
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This bullet hell game really is the Dark Souls of diluted comparisons
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>>333383079
>using the "its the current year" meme in 2016
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>>333382197
It's good so far but my pirated copy is broken so I can't go beyond the first level
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>>333387662
>little to no consumable drops

This is what really bothers me about the game, aside from tanky bosses. Drops happen all the damn time in Isaac, and if they don't there's quite a few items that can give you free pickups.
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>>333387851
did you download dauphong's
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>>333387407
Didn't want to feel this today
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>>333382534
You can rename pics on a samsung phone
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>Mimic with a fuse
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These Iron Maiden enemies really fuck up the pace, holy shit. Anyways, I agree with the opinion that the game is pretty damn fun, looks nice, music gets you in the mood, but the guns don't really feel that great. There's not much weight behind any of them, even the sawed-off.
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>>333387971
At least you're not the vastly inferior Replicant brother Nier.
Cheer up papa.
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>>333387953
no

IGG
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Rogue genre is mainstream now or it's the easy genre to indie developers clone?
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What's the difference between this and Nuclear Throne?
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>>333388127
Set screen shake to max.
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>>333388201
30 fps.
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>>333388201
Better gameplay, worse SFX.
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>>333383892
>go play metal gear solid
nah fuck that
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>>333388201
It's actually more difficult to name the comparisons between the two, but the basic combat is incredibly similar to NT.
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>>333387851

they released a GoG version which i assume doesn't crash every 2 second like the other one but for some reason i get no music on that one

this is really bumming me out
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>>333387762
the only way you can kill everything in one hit reliably in NT is pre loop with a crossbow and good aim or bolt marrow. even then it's slow as fuck unless you have trigger fingers or a gold crossbow with YV. the salamanders in scrapyard take two unless you have scarier face, and the snow tanks in frozen city always take more than one. past that you need an energy sword with laser brain or a super crossbow or something to kill the palace enemies in one hit. and good luck killing the dogs in one hit unless you pop pop them with a powerful gun and scarier face. the throne sure doesn't die in one hit either, and you have to kill the generators as well which also have a fair amount of health. on loop it's a clusterfuck of shit with varying degrees of health, so a simple crossbow won't get you far, you need an auto crossbow with bolt marrow or a super crossbow with trigger fingers. and anyway you can die in one hit from a ton of shit too, it's not like the game is piss easy
why did I type that all out
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>>333388192
This isn't a roguelike, but there's a definite treand towards roguelites at the moment.

I don't think they're especially easy for devs, there's still a lot of work involved even if there is less of a requirement to create a lot of assets.
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>precision shooter
>it's not precise unless you have certain items
>also you can get hit by really fast bullets from offscreen
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>>333387407
>WWI was more than 100 years ago
>WWII was 80 years ago
>We are closer to 2050 than we are to the moon landings
>We are closer to 2050 than we are to 1980
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>indie pixel roguelike
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>>333388187
huh, I guess dauphong's is IGG as well.
still, I've almost never had a problem downloading the shit dauphong puts up
he's a god among men
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Would it run on a 2.1 ghz craptop?
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>>333388417
>really fast bullets
The fastest bullets in this game are from the snipers and they telegraph their attacks for a long time.
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>>333386284

>You can get it for 6 dollars

where?
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>>333388417
>precision shooter
who said this?
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>>333388417
>>also you can get hit by really fast bullets from offscreen
I really hate when it spawns enemies in a big room and they agro before you can even see them
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1 key and a regular and a blue chest. Which should I open?
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>>333388390
because he made a stupid and uninformed post and you felt the need to correct it.
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>>333388597
probably, my prebuilt toaster from 2006 with an runs it barely on lowest settings
certainly you're not getting above 30 fps however
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>>333388717
Blue
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It's a less interesting Isaac.

I hate reloading and the fact that guns have limited ammo. Having to do the 4th floor with your default gun cause you're out of ammo is not fun at all.
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>>333384017
>30ms
>0.03 sec
>implying you have such reaction
You might have reaction of 150-200ms but not better, faggot.
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>>333388732
Please don't reply to yourself.
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I hate to say it as I like Nuclear Throne a lot but of the two this game is better designed. Nuclear Throne has a lot of situations where you lose due to bad luck. This is due to the decision of fielding a lot of enemies with simple bullet patterns which sometimes results in a solid bullet curtain you have no way to get around without taking damage. Gungeon uses few enemies with complicated bullet patterns, gives you dodge rolls with i-frames and field-clearing bombs for emergencies.

Nuclear Throne still has the superior game feel and I greatly prefer the aesthetic - Gungeon is kind of ugly - but Gungeon is undeniably the better game. Certainly better than anything else in the bullet hell roguelite genre. Light years ahead of shit like Issac.
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>>333388787
Thank ye kindly.
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>>333385243
That's not a Shill then. That's just a fanboy.
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>>333382197
no, pacing is horrible.
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>>333388841
fuck off nigger that's not me
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>>333388841
please don't make stupid uninformed posts
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>1 white man
>1 white woman
>1 black man
>1 black woman
I want more black men for my shooters
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>>333388201
Gungeon is much less fast-paced, but has more ornate bullet patterns
Nuclear Throne is also way more punishing in terms of ammo conservation and enemy damage
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>>333388838
You're an order of magnitude off there my friend, no wonder your reflexes aren't too hot.

Also, 30ms for your only friend's upline connection is a really generous estimate.
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>>333388863
>what are melee weapons?
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>>333388390

Im over 100 hours in but the ps4 version is broken. Cant use skins. Almos no point in playing anymore. I love it though. Probably sop after looping with every char.
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>>333388863
also
>>333387450
I 100% agree that the guns feel lousy. I'm seriously starting to think Nuclear Throne is a badly-designed game carried by AMAZING animation/music/sound design/camera work.
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>>333388078
I do it all the time to trigger autists.
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>>333388996
Is hunter black?
She looks more ambiguous
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>>333388863
>Nuclear Throne has a lot of situations where you lose due to bad luck.
no
you're doing it wrong if you turn nuclear throne into a bullet hell, unless you take crown of blood and then you know what you're getting into
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>>333382197
It's published by Devolver, so I would presume so. Most of their games are great tier.
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>>333388657
I do. It's a shooter where you need precision to kill the enemies before they overwhelm you. It's not that fucking hard to understand. But if you are really going to defend le epic "imprecise bullets are more fun xD" system, which by the way it's even worse when combined with a fucking reload system, just kill yourself.
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>>333385902
This fuccboi speaks the truth
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>>333389027
1) You are never guaranteed to find a good melee weapon by the time you need one.
2) There are some curtains through which you cannot swing fast enough.
3) Eventually you run into so many bullets and a bad spawn that you lose because you rolled badly.

Gungeon can always be beaten by a skilled enough player. Luck is just a slight modifier. The game never sticks you in a situation you cannot solve with the starter gun and some dodge rolls. Nuclear Throne also has a lot of skill involved but you will run into situations where you failed your save VS RNG and that's that.
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>>333389161
I use chicken and just rape nonstop.
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>60 fps
>widescreen resolution
How I missed you

Also the fact that it doesn't crash at start
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>>333387407

what was so good about 1990?
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Genuinely surprised it wasn't a ps+ game
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>>333385902
be careful not to break your wrist jerking it to your own opinions
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>>333389161
First of all there is always a small chance to spawn into an unwinnable situation. Secondly the longer you loop the more likely you are to run into such a situation. An infinite game based on score should never end because the player was unlucky. See my other post on the subject.
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>>333389290
>Gungeon can always be beaten by a skilled enough player.

The game hasn't been out for two days, how the fuck do you know?
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>>333382197
It's mediocre at best, honestly if you've played Binding of Issac you have pretty much played this except this is a lot easier.
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>>333389290
you're not meant to beat nuclear throne. it's literally designed to see how much you can endure until you break or slip up.
sitting on the throne and the IDPD headquarters were mistakes.
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>>333389439
Because he's skilled?
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>>333389450
Isaac was braindead, though.
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>>333389450
Isaac is piss easy compared to EtG what the fuck are you on?
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>>333389439
You have all the tools that you need to do so. All bullet patterns can be dodged through. You don't need any special items to win - any items just make winning easier.
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I'd give it 6,5~7/10. Solid enough to keep me busy untill ds3 release.

I can see myself playing it from time to time. I just wish I could play with that faggot purple coop mage.
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>Bullet hell elitist shitposters
>Nuclear Throne shitposters
>Isaac shitposters
>General 'indieshit/pixelshit' shitposters
>Jack of all trades shitposters

This has literally 0% chance of good discussion on /v/.
It's a perfect storm of autism and hurt feelings.
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>>333389450
>except this is a lot easier
(You)
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>>333389450
>except this is a lot easier.
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>>333389430
The bad thing about looping is that if RNG doesn't bless you, you're shit out of luck immediately.
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>>333389290
other anon here how do I get good at this game? I keep rolling into bullets every 20th or so time and even the one run where I had 7 fucking lives and 2 shields I still died to one of the bullshit mobs in stage 4. Also why is the dark ball boss so OP? At first I thought Medusa is bad but she only killed me once so far but I never managed to beat that shadow orb yet, even the tank and other stuff is a joke compared to it. My problem is that I know what to do but I never played touhou or anything like that past ancient stuff like contra/gradius and I was never even great at those either. I think I am just lacking muscle memory but its pissing me off that I cannot git gud. Already went from dying in first stage to clearing first 2 stages with full life but thats not nearly enough apparently. /rant
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>>333383992
Marine
THE SCRAMBLER
Slow time, I forget the name
Snek

>>333389251
>It's a shooter where you need precision to kill the enemies

>point analogue stick vaguely in their direction
>mash R1
>get kills

>precision
???

>>333389450
>if you've played Binding of Issac you have pretty much played this
Except after 250 hours of Isaac I'm completely burnt out on it and want something different. You realize it's okay to like more than 1 game in the same genre?
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>>333389290
It is entirely possible to run through the game with just a wrench and a gun for dealing damage. Keep the wrench out for the most part, only swap to the other gun for killing things quickly, or enemies with large health pools. (Crystals., robot walkers bosses etc.)
You're practically guaranteed to find a wrench before 2-1 with how often it drops from enemies and can be found in chests. You could also farm until you get the gold wrench, which eliminates the need to get lucky anyways. As for "not being able to swing fast enough", you just need the get rid of the bullets you can't avoid. If all else fails you could just use crystal. And of course you'll die eventually in nuclear throne, that's kind of the idea behind looping endlessly.

tl;dr luck can be circumvented through skill and planning. Git gud.
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>>333389515
And that's fine as long as -you- break or slip. What's not okay is the game generating a level you have no chance to beat because you never got a fast melee weapon, Hammerhead, and are out of cover in front of a bullet pattern which you cannot dodge.
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>>333389450
Nigga, the difficulty ramps up in floor 4 and 5.
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>>333382197
>revolutionary one of a kind that changes everything Indie game of the month
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>>333387584
> It's the player's fault the graphics/sound suck because he's not WINNING HARD ENOUGH
How many years do you have to be thirteen years old in order to come up with asinine bullshit like this?
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>>333384871
They're in the special thanks in the credits.
Beat the game can confirm.
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I like Binding of Isaac
I like Nuclear Throne
I like touhou
I like Enter the Gungeon
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its pretty much a faster binding of isaac, wouldn't buy at full price

would give it 8/10 pretty fun, can get it for $6.50 on nuuvem, its not region locked, have to vpn to buy it though
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>>333383227
I just found out about all the SJW bullshit they shoehorned in near the end of the game...... fuck......I guess I gotta boycott it
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Is there a trick to finding secret rooms?
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>>333389757
>the difficulty ramps up in floor 4 and 5.
>mfw I'm still having trouble consistently making it past floor 2
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>>333382197
Bad:

Weapon progression is a power creep, most weapons are just +1 reskins. Very little variety compared with Nuclear Throne where a shotgun type weapon has several different variants alone.

First floor is a ten-minute chore at the very least, you reload constantly, your clip has minuscule capacity and even homing bombs tank your bullets. Bosses are simplistic and tedious, dodgeroll is overpowered and you can circlestrafe most of their attacks anyway.

Pixelshit even for pixelshit standards.

Reddit gold tier writing.

Horrible boss design, lazy bullet patterns. Makes Nicalis people look like they know what they're doing.

Overall, the game is dead on arrival because no one is going to play a roguelike where you have to endure shit gameplay until the harder parts start. You will always be underpowered and forced to go through the motions until trivial combat goes away and you have your +1 weapon type. Zero pacing, good example would be how Isaac is often blamed for it when you don't get good damage, but at least you can get lucky with a yellow room.

Good:

Map warp; needs to be patched into Isaac.
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>>333389717
You are -almost- correct. Nuclear Throne is 95% skill 5% luck. The better you are the more bad situations you can claw your way out of. There are, however, situations which you have no way to deal with due to extremely bad dice rolls. Gungeon is a lot more careful about how it deploys enemies. A few enemies are still a threat because they can shoot out elaborate patterns but because there are only a few you are basically guaranteed to have a way to dodge through their attacks. JW's design does not guarantee this because he relies on placing a lot of enemies almost blindly.

Dieing eventually is fine if it is because you can't keep up with the enemies. It is not fine if you die eventually because the game rolls a dice every level and you eventually roll a 1.
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I kinda feel cheated since the Crossbow is pretty much the best gun for most shit. Like getting a new gun doesn't really change anything, most of the time.
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>>333389621
Oh no, the thread is not a hugbox!

Buy it on Steam plox here's a code to take 20% off just write reddit intern when prompted
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>>333390207
>this shitty pasta again

How much is vlambeer paying you
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>>333390318
I hate NT.

>15 minutes of going through the motions
>get a bad spawn and get one shotted


Doesn't mean that Gungeon isn't a shit game.
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>>333390079
Just make sure you are using your oh shit bombs which clears the entire room and stuns enemies.
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>>333390439
0/10
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>>333382421
Factorio is the highest rated steam game is pretty fucking fatastic
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>>333389697
>You realize it's okay to like more than 1 game in the same genre?
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>>333390519
-1/10
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>>333390482
>face boss
>use up 4 of them
>still die
ok
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>>333390318

Vlambeer is garbage. Fix the ps4 version you cuck faggots
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I love indie pixel shit. Maybe should give this a try
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I never play games like this. What happens if I quit? Does it save? I'm on floor 2_ and I don't want to lose my hard earned progress.
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>>333382272
try get some real friends... try GayCupid.com
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>>333390584
How new do you have to be to not get the most simple stuff? fucking kek.
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>>333390631
Have you considered going to a doctor for treatment for your fagitus?
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>>333390547
>Factorio is the highest rated steam game

Really?

I know it had a good following before it hit Steam, but that's suprising.
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>>333390607
>caring about the ps4 version
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>>333390635
you start over at the very beginning and you will keep your intergalactic credits and if you freed anyone with a golden key that will also transfer, otherwise nothing afaik.
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>>333390694
There is no treatment for having fun :^)
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>>333390591
Try to roll and abuse the iframes. or use good weapons to kill the bosses
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>>333389091
She looks navajo
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>>333390772
There's no cure for AIDs either, but that doesn't mean you can just ignore the problem.
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>>333390771
What the fuck. So unless I can play undisturbed all day this game is a waste of time?
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>>333390847
>having fun is a problem
Only on /v/
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>>333390679
-2/10
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>>333386294
It happens to be a wheel with a pressurised rubber tire around it.
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>>333390215
>There are, however, situations which you have no way to deal with due to extremely bad dice roll
Initial spawns come to mind. Especially in 5-3, 7-1 and 7-2
>get to 5-2
>golden snow tank right besides spawn, another two in some other part of the level
>get to 5-3
>spawn is a small corridor leading to an area with a golden snow tank and a shitton of other enemies
>get to 7-2
>four dog guardians right off the bat

That said, the energy sword isn't one of my favourite weapons in NT because of nothing.
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>>333390797
That is what I am doing, actually both, I still die at stage 4 or sometimes even earlier.

>>333390862
It took me 30 mins to get to stage 4 and it has only 5 stages or something like that, do not want to spoil. ;)
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>>333388863
Ah, let me note another thing in favor of Nuclear Throne: game length. 1 hour is too long for a single play session. Research points out that focus lapses after around 45 minutes and people tend to prefer play sessions which last around half an hour. You can elongate this period by putting in periods in which the player does not need to focus - this is why RPGs can be played for many hours; a lot of the time is spent mindlessly wandering.

Nuclear Throne's 20-30 minute play session length is a perfect fit for the format.
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>>333390875
It is anon, when a dope fiend has fun, it leads to them destroying their life. It's the same for people like you who suffer from chronic fagitus.
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>>333390727
Well it did a week ago when i checked steam. Obviously its proportional and a niche game will always score higher than others but yeah, highest rating and deserves it.
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>>333390914
I don't know why but I always find myself using explosive weapons in NT. There's just something about huge explosions and splash damage that makes my dick hard.

and then panicfiring at the asshole right next to me and killing myself because I never rolled boiling veins always kills it.
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>>333388475
Crysis is now right in the middle between Half Life release and the present day.
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>>333391007
You are painfully unfunny.
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