Alien Soldier+Panzer Dragoon Orta>Megaman X+Ace Combat 5
>>333377507
not to mention vice city, san andreas, and mgs 2 were on xbox and better in graphics and resolution.
>>333377507
OG Xbox being better than PS2 can be argued strongly thanks to it's great hardware for the time, a few hidden gems, and the best versions of multiplats. But I fail to see how Genesis is better than SNES.
>>333379270
What does SNES have that makes it better than the Genesis? The genesis had the best platformers, best beat'em ups, best fighting games, best driving games, best shmups, best tactical rpg's. honestly, what does the snes possibly have?
>>333379270
genesis had best sports games as well.
>>333377507
Sega saturn + Pc Engine Duo RX > everything
>>333380042
>what does the snes possibly havejrpgs
>>333380137
what do you mean rpg's?
genesis had phantasy star, shining series, landstalker, light crusader, shadowrun, beyond oasis, Nobunaga's Ambition, etc.
>>333379270
>>333380042
I'm a fan of platformers so snes is a no-brainer. The way I see it, you'd either want to own both or own just the snes, there's not enough quality material on genesis to justify it by itself.
>>333380121
>liking sports games
The kiddies are realuzing how great OG Xbox was. Any non-retard that wssnt 3 when Xbox came out knows it was awesome. 360 was a step backwards and x1 took a shit but OG Xbox was fantastic.
>>333380473
ristar is better than super mario world.
>>333380348
>nobunaga's ambition
>rpg
atleast play the game before you start shitting out answers, Nobunaga's Ambition is a Koei stratgey game like Gemfire, and I said JRPG.
The genesis had what you said but the SNES had more. Terranigma, FF Games, Secret of Mana, Secreft of Evermore, EB, Illusion of Gaia, Breath of Fire Series, Lufia, Arcana, Secret of the Stars, Ys, and more.that's the only thing snes has over the genesis, still rather play the genesis anyways desu
LandStalker ftw
>>333380137
>jrpg's
I thought /v/ played games for gameplay not to watch a movie and read text, watch cutscenes.
where are the fighting games, racing games, and shmups on snes?
>>333380554
Snes is more than just smw, even when it comes to platformers.
>>333380948
SFA2, Bikers from mars or whatever the fuck it's called, Rock n Roll Racing, Axelay, Final Fight, Darius, Top Gear 2000, Mario Kart.
>also 16bit jrpgs
>cutscenes
senpai what are you doing, I think you need to goto bed
>>333380680
quantity isn't better than quality.
just look at the ps2.
>>333381146
yes cutscenes. the mod 7 scenes, dialogue strips, clicking through menu's.
where's the gameplay???
>>333381156
Yes but if you take a look, they tend to be good jrpgs. Genesis ones were great as well, i prefer those, but the SNES had more to offer and they were of average or good quality.
>>333381146
outrun alone tops all the bullshit shovelware you just named.
>>333381232
>mod 7
goto bed
>>333381323
Outrun isn't a racing game, it's a time attack driving game.
nice one, anyways the genesis version is shit, best version is the Saturn port
>>333381372
6 minutes before you get into gameplay
is this NOT a cutscene essentially?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP2xTiu8lVc
>>333381156
>metacritic is a reliable way to rate vidya
Of all the recent /v/ tropes, I hate this one the most. A lot of games pictured are good; I doubt most of them in that pic have more than 3 "reviews". Metacritic is honestly as good as useless for gauging the quality of games.
>>333381565
It is, but he was describing was that he didn't want to watch a movie 15 mins of cutscenes in a game =/= movie
>>333381583
check closely. most have more than 30 reviews. the ps2 is an overrated piece of shit with sequels worse than their originals, manifestation of emphasis on narratives rather than gameplay, and bulk of shovelware. Anybody saying the ps2 is worthy of being the best console of all time clearly doesn't know what a game is. hintit is NOT an interactive movie
>>333381156
>PS2 = Freedom
>Late PS3/early PS4 = slaves
I wish developers could have this much freedom again. Nowadays it's all about making money and not making games. see: Konami.
>>333381738
if you want to get to the nitty gritty, rpg's simply aren't games. And I'm being genuinely fucking serious right now. Rpg's do not take nearly the same skill and dexterity as do platformers, fighting games, beat-em ups, shooters, etc.
>>333382032
Who in this thread said it was the best console of all time? I know it's a (wrong) opinion often paraded around by newfags around here that grew up playing only on PS2, but it's not something I agree with in the slightest.
In fact, I don't believe such a thing exists, since it depends far too much in subjective tastes regarding what kinds of videogames you actually intend to play.
Metacritic is still ass, though. It's reviews are about as trustworthy as /v/ itself is.
>>333382106
freedom to do what? make shitty mediocre games with clunky controls? How old were you in 2006-8? The ps2 is horrible compared to ps1, dreamcast, xbox, genesis, colecovision, 2600. GAMES. with emphasis on gameplay and not fulfilling arbitrary narratives. zaxxon, and beamrider feel like sliding on a glove. mgs 3 does notif you can even find the gameplay nder all those cutscenes and the inability to die since the game is so fucking easy
A Genesis Vs SNES battle should be purely concentrated on the few excellent games both consoles had and focus on them alone.
Whole gaming library comparisons are worthless, since both consoles had 100's of games that are not even worth playing.
It
has been long since proven that the Genesis was a better all round
gaming machine in terms of hardware. Moot point though since we as the
gamers are going to judge games, not hypothetical numbers telling us how
many operations per second each machine is grinding out. Who really
cares about this aspect? That any Genesis fan comes out with his or her fists
flying with these facts n figures tells me they know deep down that the
SNES was superior in terms of a "classic" gaming library (the only list
of games that even matter now we are in 2012).
Nobody cares about
the tremendous haul of sub par or mediocre titles on both machines
which took the bulk of their gaming libraries. People arguing which 2nd
rate game on either system being better is perhaps irrelevant.
Ignoring
all the average games on both systems, one could legitimately compile a
list of 30 or so titles for each system that would earn a minimum of
B+.
Nintendo had a few high class gaming companies in their back
pockets, and hence I feel had better A-list titles than the Genesis.
Ignoring hardware etc, I would say the SNES just had more classics and
better classics. Zelda LTTP, Metroid, Final Fantasy and a few others
are as iconic today as they were yesterday. Not saying the Genesis did
not have very important games either, but I feel a Top 10 list of SNES /
Genesis classics will be biased heavily towards the SNES (like 8 / 2 or
7 / 3 in the SNES favor). Even a Top 20 list would probably still be
dominated by Nintendo (perhaps 12 / 8 or 11 / 9 in Nintendo's favor).
Invoking a Top 200 list would probably favor the Genesis, but my point
stands. Nobody, unless they live a sheltered indoor life, is going to
bother playing 200 games on either system.
Genesis supporters
often point to the Genesis getting better ports of this game or that
game, but in reality none of those particular games were any good to
begin with. The most famous better Genesis port was Mortal Kombat.
Mortal Kombat!? Hilarious! It was, in all honesty, a run of the mill
brawler on the 16 bit machines. Neither console came even close to
doing the arcade game justice. I could even raise a very valid argument
that once you get down into the gameplay, Mortal Kombat on the arcade
was highly overrated. Earthworm Jim? Yes Genesis version rocked
harder, but is Earthworm Jim really an all time classic? Not really...
Aladdin was better on the Genesis by quite a wide margin, and this was a
top game but perhaps not classic (borderline classic perhaps).
Any
other comparisons that mattered? Street Fighter 2 was largely identical
on both consoles, and anyone saying which version is better is just
picking at straws. They are widely considered to be equal, even
magazines at the time could not separate them. Mortal Kombat 2 was a
great fighter, again, neither version stood ahead of the other. Most
would slightly prefer the SNES version due to better use of the color
palette, but really the difference was trivial. I could endlessly go on
here.... but the point of my argument is simple: If comparing two
fairly average or even good games (where that game happens to be better
on the Genesis as often was the case), I do not feel the outcomes change
anything. The best games are all that matter today, and it just
happens that the best games that stand as classics are more numerous on
the SNES and Genesis. It has nothing to do with the SNES being better
hardware wise, it is purely the game companies that Nintendo had in
their back pocket. If those game companies were producing heavily for
Sega rather than Nintendo, then the console war would have been won
easily by Sega. As it is, they either did not develop much on Sega or
if they did, the games on the Genesis were nothing special. Konami are
one company who kicked ass on both systems (and yes, Contra Hard Corps
on the Genesis is way better than Contra III on the SNES).
Sony
did a one up on Nintendo with the Playstation. By having many game
companies in their back pockets, poor old Nintendo were left clutching
at 2nd rate 3rd party developers for the bulk of their mediocre gaming
library. No surprise why the PS1 crushed the N64 and the Saturn.
That
Sega stood up to Nintendo in the 16 bit days is testament to Sega's own
creative genius in making the Genesis the console to own for premium
but mind numbing arcade style action games designed to do nothing but
test the reflexes. Genesis rules with these side scroller shooting
games, vertical shooters and the action platform genre. However, these are
precisely the kind of games that rarely achieve classic status -
it takes more than firing endless streams of bullets while dodging
enemy fire to make a game classic.
