I really don't get how to make the best out of an ssd
Should I install my games on the ssd or on the hdd ? Can I install an other OS on the ssd or should I do it on the hdd ?
>>333364770
install os and games on ssd. porn, music, movies, and other random shit you don't use as much on hdd
>Should I install my games on the ssd or on the hdd ?
Depends on the game
Do you want it to load really fast? Is the game big? etc etc
>Can I install an other OS on the ssd or should I do it on the hdd ?
>Can
Yes
>should
Idk, your choice m8
Install your OS and most important games on your SSD.
HDD for everything else.
>>333364993
If there is already a Win10 OS installed on the ssd, is it still possible ?
>>333365004
The game I play are really big, lot and lot of data files, huge maps, tons of hd images
>Skyrim with a quintillion mods
>Sims3 with every single expansions and store items
>>333365527
For modded skyrim I have an SSD dedicated to the install. Albeit, I got it for free
SSD+HDD in the same PC is a meme. You could literally just skip the HDD and use the money to make the SSD larger.
>>333364770
ssd will only help if there is a lot of loading happening, otherwise there's no point
>>333364770
The problem I encountered with my SSD that almost entirely prevents me from booting on it is games installed on my HDD I try to play have incredibly long loading times compared to if I boot off my HDD and play them there. I have never seen anyone complain about this so I guess I just got unlucky or something but it sucks because having windows off my SSD makes everything else incredibly fast and I play so many games its impracitcal for me to restart every time I want to play something.
For example in Arkham Knight if I play off my SSD and its installed on my HDD it will randomly freeze in the city with a loading symbol because it has to load in the rest of the city whereas that isn't a problem if I play off my HDD where its installed.
>>333365798
It's not that people go out and by and SSD and an HDD. They buy an SSD, and just have an HDD laying around somewhere.
>>333365192
This. It's that easy.
>>333365798
If the HDD is fifty dollars adding that to your SSD budget will still not come close to the size of a fifty dollar HDD
>>333365798
I have the OS in the SSD (120GB), a couple of programs I use a lot and one game because I was told these programs would run faster, every other game and software is on the HDD.
For now the PC just boots fine. Have I been rused or it's fine this way?
Only install games you plan to play a lot on your SSD
Everytime you rewrite to an SSD, you're decreasing its shelf life and if you just put some shit you play for five minutes on it every time you get a game, your SSD will die faster than necessary
Just wait for Samsung to release their 16TB SSD to the general public in a year or two.
>>333364770
If its a OS, game or program, install it on the SSD
If its anything else, HDD
>>333365798
>4tb HDD: $150
>4tb SSD: $500
for packrats, HDD is the way to go
>having an HDD at all
>not having a 500gb or 1tb SSD and just putting everything on it
enjoy micromanaging your shit plebs
>>333366382
yea it sucks but I cant afford it
>>333366382
>500
>1 TB
WOW IT'S FUCKING NOTHING.
And why would you have an SSD to storage stuff? It's utterly retarded. What, will my 50 gb anime BDs play faster in a 500 bucks SSD?
>>333366270
>game or program
>on the SSD
Only if they have long loading times like photoshop or Battleshit 4 or something. Rest goes on the HDD.
>>333366183
This meme needs to die. I ran the diagnostics shit for my SSD that I've had in my computer for at least five years, installed the OS many times and written the disk's capacity hundreds of times over. It's still got 97% lfie left. SSDs are more likely to fail for completely unrelated reasons than hitting R/W limit.
>>333366105
What do you mean? It loads in 15 seconds or more?
If you fill the SSD too much it goes slower, so watch that out.
>>333366382
500 and 1 tera is just not enough for most people here. Just buy a 250-500 SSD for the games you're playing and OS, then buy a 2TB HDD for movies, porn, pics, anime, series or whatever.
>>333364770
>ssd
don't fall for the meme
>>333366382
>not having a 500gb or 1tb SSD and just putting everything on it
if your everything fits on 1tb, you should kill yourself you YIFY cock sucker
>>333364993
>porn
>shit you don't use as much
>>333366382
Man I just downloaded a 36 gb Berserk encode. My Monogatari folder is like 50 gb or more and I have most of it in 720p. My Type Moon folder is like 100 gb thanks to KnK movie 5 being like 20gb by itself. And so on.
1 gb is not enough.
>>333366870
>SSD
>HEY LETS COMBINE ALL THE TINY USBS TOGETHER AND MAKE A BIG USB THING
>>333366489
>>333366581
>>333366664
>>333366870
But I don't watch anime
>>333365863
That shouldn't happen, you must have fucked something up badly.
Go through all this shit here, you probably overlooked something important: http://www.disk-partition.com/kb/tips-ssd-optimization-windows7-1.html
SSDs can pack data in denser locations. While a harddrive can access shit super quick depending on the selected rotation speed (and viscosity of thermal paste).
>>333364770
Install the hdd on your ssd
That way it all becomes super fast
tfw 4 4TB HDs almost filled
>>333367029
Get out then
This is the video anime game board
>>333366183
>shelf life
Life. Shelf life is how long a product survives in the market.
>>333367029
A good movie encode is at least 6gb, a FLAC song is around 25mb or half that for a good mp3, and a decent JAV encode will be at least 4gb
1tb is insufficient
>>333367067
What.
>>333366870
Learn to watch-and-delete. You will never rewatch an anime anyway.
>>333364770
Essentially what >>333364993 said. SSD is for stuff where speed matters (OS, other frequently used software, favorite game), HDD is for mass storage where speed is irrelevant (videos, pictures and so on).
>>333367272
And you never need more than 2 movies on the plate at the same time.
As you watch 1 movie you download the next and then you delete the one you have just watched.
>>333367308
>Learn to watch-and-delete
But the only anime I have stored are the ones I downloaded in order to store them.
I don't save TV releases
>>333366382
>mfw my games load fast enough on HDD's anyway because they can use the full read speed on the game instead of having to deal with my OS and shit at the same time
>ssd only shaves off another second or two
>>333366578
>If you fill the SSD too much it goes slower,
They don't though unless you need to keep fucking nothing on your SSD. Mine reads at 370MB/s whether it's 10% left or 30%.
>inb4 people not realizing the difference between theoretical speeds companies post and real use ones
>>333366716
>video/pic loads in .0005 seconds instead of .0007
Unless your folder takes ages to buffer it's not worth putting it on an SSD.
>>333367308
everytime I need to nut I open up an episode of puchimas
also, AB ratio
>>333366183
modern SSDs last longer than HDDS even with lots of rewrites
>>333366564
What he said is basically a left-over from older SSD generations. Back then it was actually relevant for some of them, nowadays you can probably run a program that constantly rewrites the SSD with meaningless data and still die of old age before your SSD gives up
>>333367441
See
http://www.howtogeek.com/165542/why-solid-state-drives-slow-down-as-you-fill-them-up/
Anecdotally, i started fallout 4 for automatron and the load Times are bRuTal. Do ssds solve The issue?
>>333367272
>A good movie encode is at least 6gb
>Movies
>Good encoding
I have never seen a live action movie with good encoding, it either has shit bitrate, shit audio or it looks like shit for some reason.
FLAC is a meme AC3 is enough unless you're an audiophile.
>>333367437
better to have and not need than need and not have
If you DO want to rewatch a movie, and you deleted it and no one is seeding it anymore on a public tracker or your not a dumbass who wastes buffer to download the same movie twice, let alone delete the movie in the first place, you'll significantly regret having deleted it
>>333367680
then stop using YIFY
>AC3 is enough unless you're an audiophile
>>333367604
I'm aware of the theory, what I'm saying is that in practice it's not enough of a difference to worry over. It will still be significantly faster than any HDD to the order of at least double the speed.
>>333367680
>I have never seen a live action movie with good encoding, it either has shit bitrate, shit audio or it looks like shit for some reason.
Holy shit, learn to find good rips. If it's 1080p, the minimum file size for a normal movie is like 15GB.
>>333367441
>my games load fast enough on HDD's anyway because they can use the full read speed on the game instead of having to deal with my OS and shit at the same time
>>333366105
The OS and basic programs will take up a quarter of a 120gb SSD, and 2 medium sized games will fill the rest. 120gb is not worth it, 240gb minimum.
I got a 480gb because fuck messing around setting install paths with different games and steam.
>>333367689
>significantly regret
It's a movie, it's not like watching it will save your mom's life or something
>>333367994
Are you implying there's anything wrong with that statement? A drive running an OS while being used for other things will run slower than one only running other things.
Common sense, m8.
Having your OS on the SSD will make it boot insanely fast, though on my 7200rpm HDD Windows 8.1 boots in like 15 seconds, which i don't mind at all. I've tested having my OS on the SSD and HDD and found no difference during actual operation.
Put all your most played games and applications on the SSD, or ones that take forever to boot like Red Orchestra 2.
On my HDD RO2 takes like 60 seconds to boot, but from the SSD it takes about ten seconds.
3DS MAX is about the same.
Do NOT fall for the SSD meme.
The speed increases are negligible.
They die within a couple of years.
You can just randomly lose all of your data at any time due to spontaneous NAND failure.
>>333365798
You cannot upgrade an SSD for less than 300 bucks anon and 4tb HDD costs less than 120.-
>>333368090
that doesn't mean you won't regret not saving it
>>333365798
you do not get the benefit of an SSD when you are playing old games from 1998. a 7200rpm drive will give you the same performance. There is no reason to install all your games on an SSD
>>333364770
>I really don't get how to make the best out of an ssd
Either use Ubuntu 16 or Windows 10. They're the only OSes that support UEFI Ultra Fast boot properly.
7/8.1/Ubuntu 15 only do Fast Boot
>>333368297
>The speed increases are negligible.
3-5 times the speed is not negligible.
>They die within a couple of years.
Original models did, but that statement hasn't been true in years.
>You can just randomly lose all of your data at any time due to spontaneous NAND failure.
Like how you can randomly lose all your data on literally any storage medium because fuck you?
>>333366382
>500GB-1TB
Holy hell my PC has 9TB right now across 5 drives and it's like 70% full overall.
How the fuck do people live with 500GB? I couldn't live with that 8 years ago.
>>333365863
Have you seriously got windows installed on both harddrives?
>>333368481
I do
>>333368473
>Holy hell my PC has 9TB right now across 5 drives and it's like 70% full overall.
Are you me?
>>333368512
Just...
Just reset everything dude
Your entire life
Something's gone wrong
>>333367680
>FLAC is a meme AC3 is enough unless you're an audiophile.
You don't use FLAC for quality, you use it for consistency.
Any form of compression on pirated music is bad. It's inconsistent due to coming from 500 different people who all have different software, or opinions on exactly what settings to use and what is sufficient. You can't even rely on fucking logs to be in 90% of torrents.
Use lossless formats if only for the fact that it will be 100% consistent in quality to the CD audio it was mastered onto no matter who ripped it.
>>333368646
Why the fuck do you want Windows on both of the drives?
>>333368691
I dont understand what you're saying and it doesn't sound like you have any advice anyway.
>>333368796
You don't need Windows on each drive you want to use. You only need it on one drive.
>>333368297
>They die within a couple of years.
Why is /v/ the worst board on all of 4chan when it comes to spouting ancient bullshit about technology?
>>333368830
Woah, thanks. I'll uninstall it then.
>>333368512
why.jpeg
You scare me anon.
>>333368876
Use Windows on your SSD
Don't fall for the ssd meme OP
My SSD was a Samsung something or other, failed on me within the first 2 months.
Speeds werent that noticeably better either, in fact, it would just randomly not boot, and sometimes the windows taskbar would not load either
Don't do it OP, all the people that shill for SSD's are promoted to do so, get a hybrid drive or just a plain HDD
>>333368646
>I cant run the game from both drives if only one of them has Windows.
Are you legitimately retarded?
OS on 128GB SSD
Games on 256GB SSD
Media on 1TB USB 3.0 External HDD
>>333368954
>Games on 256GB SSD
All four of them?
>>333368954
Why do you have separate SSDs for your OS and games? Had it lying around when you upgraded?
>>333368646
>I cant run the game from both drives if only one of them has Windows.
3/10 bait
>>333368132
Then why not 2 ssd ?
>>333368921
Thats what i'm doing, but I dont know if you noticed on the original post you replied to but its causing problems with my games when I play off the ssd.
>>333368950
Yea, haha! What a meaningful post.
>>333369010
I will just delete it because I didn't see how illogical that was initially. It's irrelevant to my problem though.
>>333369004
>Implying anyone needs a large amount of big AAA games installed at any time
>>333369019
Cost mostly. If you can afford it, sure.
>>333369059
The problem is irrelevant. You should move the files to your SSD or reinstall the game on your SSD. You're missing out on performance by running it from HDD either way.
>>333369062
Gee I sure do love spending three hours downloading a game every time I get the urge to play a couple matches!
>>333369115
All relevant multi games are small
>>333369152
>relevant
Oh you're one of those faggots, disregarding your posts.
>>333369007
Because when I bought my 128GB it was expensive to buy SSDs and I didn't want to get rid of it once the games started taking up too much room.
>itt: computer illiterate Redditors
>>333369059
>but I dont know if you noticed on the original post you replied to but its causing problems with my games when I play off the ssd.
That's because you fucked something somewhere way the hell up. Considering your "fix" was to have two fucking installs of windows I'd say there's a pretty good chance you didn't do the SSD install right.
>>333369152
>All relevant multi games are small
CSGO babies pls leave
>>333369204
Welcome to /v/
>>333369110
I dont have the storage to do that, the problem is relevant to me because even if I did it is happening to me. The game is fifty gigs, if you don't want to help then I don't understand why you are nagging me with such a condescending tone. If you have nothing to contribute then contribute nothing. Obviously if I had the space to do that I would.
>>333369231
That's not my "fix" you're saying it's my "fix" I already told you I would uninstall it because you said so and somehow that doesn't please you. If it seriously bothers you so much I dont understand what the problem is anymore. It's there because I had the hdd first and got the ssd later.
>bought an SSD on Black Friday
>installed my OS on it
>it went tits up not even a week later
>had to freshly install OS again on my HDD
>have been too lazy to put in a replacement request
Don't buy an SSD.
>>333364770
ssd have slower write rates but incredibly fast reading rates compared to HDD.
all your write heavy shit should be on your HDD like torrents steam apps ect
then the SSD should have the OS drivers ect or anythign else you deam importent/use frequently enough
>>333369152
>All relevant multi games are small
Let me guess, LoL? No no, you're far to mature for that. DOTA maybe?
>>333369294
>That's not my "fix" you're saying it's my "fix" I already told you I would uninstall it because you said so and somehow that doesn't please you. If it seriously bothers you so much I dont understand what the problem is anymore. It's there because I had the hdd first and got the ssd later.
I'm not the anon that was telling you to get rid of the install. While I agree with what he said, what you really need to do is just completely wipe your SSD and try installing windows on it again. You're still a fucking retard for thinking you needed windows on both drives.
>chuckling hard at the sour grapes going on
look, just because you can't afford an SSD and don't know the first thing about building computers, doesn't mean you need to slander great technology.
that's why i ignore tech threads on /v/. they belong on /g/.
tech thread on /v/ is just shitposting.
neighbor comes over earlier
gets onto subject of his SSD
he is completely gaga over SSD, thinks its the second coming of technology
tells me how much better they are and that i should get one
told him the speed increase isnt that much better, i dont actually have a use for SSD and the size to speed and cost ratio isnt practical right now.
told him its best use is mainly for games at this point, that games just load a bit faster but it doesnt actually effect gameplay in anyway
he obv doesnt understand the difference between gameplay and graphics since yes it might help load graphics a bit faster but GAMEPLAY will not be effected in anyway
he then goes off on a "rant" aboot spec's or something i just space out since he really doesnt get it.
>>333369305
>i got a bad product and am too lazy to return it, so don't buy this piece of tech that thousands of people own
>>333368618
there are FLAC transcodes that came from mp3 floating around the internet, it's not a guarantee that if you download a FLAC file that it will still have all the original data
Although, it's easy to check for and FLAC is still the preferred format for any listener
>>333369305
>My hardware failed but millions of others didn't. Therefore don't buy hardware
>>333369309
>ssd have slower write rates but incredibly fast reading rates compared to HDD.
No they don't you fucking retard. They're faster across the board.
>>333369309
>ssd have slower write rates but incredibly fast reading rates compared to HDD.
You're fucking retarded.
Single HDD pleb here. Is installing games on the HDD easy when you have a SSD boot drive?
>>333369309
These are the kinds of people that /v/ users listen to when they ask for advice building a PC.
That really explains those embarrassing speccy threads we have every day.
>>333369309
>ssd have slower write rates but incredibly fast reading rates compared to HDD.
>ssd have slower write rates
>>333369309
>>333369309
>>333369583
Yes, you just go into Steam or whatever settings and change the install drive.
>>333369423
holy shit, lrn2geeentext
>>333369423
I don't understand this logic.
having your system files on an SSD improves boot time significantly as well as all the other shit you mentioned, but the speed increase goes from anywhere from 20-40 seconds to around 5.
it's a pretty big increase
>>333364770
Depends on the game. Games who stream a lot of data like GTAV, Arma3, Just Cause3 should go to the SSD to help prevent stuttering and clipping. The rest might as well stay on HDD.
Windows on SSD obviously, the boost is quite noticeable on startup. But I'ld recommend moving the temp, documents, download folders from your windows installation to the HDD. Same goes with chrome/firefox and Steam cache folders, but you'll have to set up symbolic links since neither of those let you move the cache folders. This should help prevent wear on SSD.
>>333369726
i know how
but if you need the color green to read something you need to take a break from this place.
>>333369583
>Double click steam game
>WHERE DO I INSTALL TO, CHAMP?
>Pick the SSD
Wow so hard
>>333369782
people really underestimate how huge of a lifespan SSDs really have.
by the time your SSD is even close to the end of it's life, you will be needing to upgrade your entire rig anyway.
>>333369305
>he didnt create a back up image
niga this takes litraly 5-10 mins to create and can back up your whole computer to the way it was in 5-10 mins also. wtf are you doing
>>333369735
well all i knew aboot SSD before this thread was its gave a speed increase
and knowing now from this thread its use is only for OS , games and heavily used programs(like for a job use or something) i was still in the right, its not that useful...its not gonna make anything i use any better or faster.
i dont game ALOT on this PC nor do i shut my PC off/on alot where the speed boost is gonna have an effect.
and anything i download to save goes onto my external 2 TB hdd
>>333370050
if you're an entry level pleb who barely uses their computer, than yes, an SSD is probably a waste of money for you.
you don't need to see a professional to come to this realization.
this is like people who barely drive their car saying fuel intake injector is "useless" for them.
>>333369550
>>333369696
nah nigga are you that thick? look it up or better yet http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/280654-32-write-speed-slower
>>333369947
I've had my raid 0 of velociraptors for 8 years, oldest piece of hardware I'm still using in my comp which went through three upgrades in the meantime. I'm gonna upgrade next year, probably from scratch this time, but still I'ld rather keep the extra SSD if I can.
>>333370260
>http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/280654-32-write-speed-slower
you don't even know what you cited, lmao.
nice try though man. just leave the thread with dignity.
>>333370050
Having your OS and programs installed on an SSD makes the general experience a lot better, since everything is more responsive.
>>333370260
>I'm a fucking retard the post
He bought a shit drive when SSDs had just been released. Of course his performance was abysmal.
>>333370384
>http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/280654-32-write-speed-slower
>he didnt click to see the write speeds
>>333365798
>mfw I bought HDD first because bang for the buck is 10 times better than SSD
>mfw I'll be moving my OS to the SSD soon
Dude, that's no meme. Most people on a budget start with an HDD just for the sheer capacity. My 1TB HDD cost me the same as a 60-120GB-ish SSD.
>>333370461
dude there still slower ATM if you buy a i think its red or black HDD they are still faster at this point in tiime
>>333370534
>buy shitty drive
>wonder why it performs like ass
Now show us a real citation.
>>333370260
>I have an OCZ Agility 3 60GB SSD.
HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Here's a benchmark from my Samsung Evo.
>>333370197
if you mean entry level you mean a normal everyday PC user? sure then
>>333370408
is my PC not responsive?
all im taking away from this is that SSD are more suited for people who game ALOT on their PCs(probly streamers) or for businesses where they have to use many programs and such.
its not gonna be that useful to people who leave their PCs on for weeks on end and just browse the internet.
>>333370654
http://hdd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/WD-VelociRaptor-1TB-vs-WD-Black-6TB-2015/1389vs3519
Still nearly half the speed of my drive.
>>333370534
the guy was also using the wrong benchmark software.
>>333370760
No, there's a big difference between HDDs and SSDs in just everyday use.
I haven't rebootet my PC in a month.
>>333370760
if you don't download files and move them around, then you are an entry level PC user.
you sound like a 14 year old consolecuck desu.
>>333367294
lurk more
>>333370654
Stop that. You're flat wrong so just stop.
>>333370767
>http://hdd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/WD-VelociRaptor-1TB-vs-WD-Black-6TB-2015/1389vs3519
>links to a hdd and an hybrid hhd/sdd
>>333370654
>dude there still slower ATM if you buy a i think its red or black HDD they are still faster at this point in tiime
No, they're fucking not.
See my Evo benchmark here
>>333370759
And here's a sequential benchmark of my WD Black for comparison.
?????
What's there to fucking get ya retard?
>SSD fast
>HDD slow
Install games you want fast loading on the SSD. In fact, install everything possible on the SSD until you run out of space, then move stuff around.
I keep pics/vids/movies/installation files on the HDD
>>333371001
>either of those drives
>hybrid
You really are a fucking retard. Also I posted my drive here >>333370461
>>333370885
what files am i supposed to download and move around?
i save the odd picture here and there, maybe even the rare YT vid
move them onto my external HDD
once in a blue moon ill take some time to organise my stuff a bit better but for the most part stuff i dl goes into their specific folders instead of one single folder.
i stopped hoarding every little pic/vid in my late teens. its not worth saving some pic that made me smile that im never gonna look at again.
>>333371232
they both have a platter how do you explain that then? SSD do not have platters man
>>333366329
What the fuck do you need a 4TB SSD for?
There aren't even that many things that benefit from an SSD
>>333371314
What are you even asking? I posted the benchmark for my SSD as a screencap earlier. Then I posted a link to the WD Black drive which is one of the fastest HDDs on the market. The WD black is still barely better than half as fast as my SSD.
>>333371341
That's his point. It's silly to buy a massive SSD right now since they cost so much.
>>333371250
for you, no files, since you're entry level pleb.
did you run out of pics to post, i was kinda enjoying them.
>>333371395
>http://hdd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/WD-VelociRaptor-1TB-vs-WD-Black-6TB-2015/1389vs3519
dude the link you posted me they both have a platter, so you can clearly see one is s hdd and one is a sshd
>>333371341
Literally everything benefits from an SSD, don't be stupid.
It's just not cost effective to use an SSD for mass storage at this time even with prices dropping.
>>333371546
DELETE THIS
>>333371598
>dude the link you posted me they both have a platter, so you can clearly see one is s hdd and one is a sshd
Please just never post again.
>>333371532
no i knew people would expect her every post but stopped knowing it would asspain someone.
majority of people who use a computer are "entry level" then
>>333371606
>Literally everything benefits from an SSD
No
Just no
>>333371698
ssd dont have platters
>>333368473
Ive lived with a 250gb hitachi hdd which is 9 years old by now, unttil recently that is. then i found a half dead 160gb somewhere so i am using that too. fuck booting up the pc mayne. ill have to get a 250gb evo
>>333371893
yes. My porn folder got so big i had to move it to an SSD just so it didnt take an hour for the thumbnails to show up.
>>333371893
its true though
>>333371893
What doesn't? What really is better when it loads slower?
>>333372005
>just so it didnt take an hour for the thumbnails to show up
>I'm retarded and pulling shit out of my ass
Windows caches thumbnails you moron, after the first load it shouldn't take you any longer than 10 seconds unless you're using windows 98 or some shit
>>333371851
>majority of people who use a computer are entry level then
that's probably true actually, didn't think about that. different story for a different thread though.
she was so cute back then.
>>333364770
You move the games to the SSD when you want to play them and keep them stored on a HDD when you're not playing them. You don't need all your games in a playable state at once. Moving shit back & forth is a simple drag & drop operation.
>>333372160
you've obviously never tried to sort thousands of pictures.
>inb4 who saves pictures in two thousand and sixteen haters come out of the woodwork
>>333372174
yes she was
i die everyday knowing i wont be with her or anyone like her ;_;
>Buy a 120gb SSD
>They send me a 240gb SSD instead
If you only have the budget for one, smaller SSD, use it was a system drive. OS and regular applications. Maybe a game or two.
It's [CURRENT YEAR]. Why haven't you gone completely SSD?
>>333372338
>Why haven't you gone completely SSD?
Because it's still better value to use HDD's for mass storage and it seems it'll remain that way for the foreseeable future.
>>333372338
>If you only have the budget for one, smaller SSD, use it was a system drive. OS and regular applications.
i'm doing this
seems like games are getting bigger faster then ssds becoming affordable
it was fine when shit like skyrim was 5gb but now they're 5x than or more
>>333372160
Windows doesn't cache metadata and file attributes though. That shit can really slow down browsing if there's enough files in a directory that Windows wants to analyze.
>>333372465
"going full ssd" is something that should happen over time on paper.
i'm still using my old seagate for download storage, the idea is to rotate an ssd in everytime somethings dies, if it dies.
i'd rather have one 1 TB ssd and one 500gb ssd than a bunch of HDDs in the long run.
one power consumption and two space and because it makes your case heavy as fuck.
my case is so god damn heavy its stupid.
>SSDs are increasing in size and dropping in price constantly
>HDD manufacturers are either astroturfing (Seagate, HGST) or buying SSD makers (WD) to secure their future
>These jews could win the size war right now, with already available HAMR drives
>But they're too concerned with profit off selling many drives
>>333372241
>you've obviously never tried to sort thousands of pictures
Nigga I have over 300GB of pornography, thousand is a small number
![[Revving intensifies].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sL0VNvm.jpg "[Revving intensifies].jpg")
>>333372737
>300GB of pornography
Is that it?
Power-On Hours (POH) 2024d 9h
>>333372795
>tfw over 600GB of Yuria Satomi alone
That guy is a lightweight
>>333364770
There's very little difference between SSD and HDD when moving large file. SSD is good for moving large amount of small files.
>>333372737
all the more reason to sort the pics on an SSD, friendo.
>>333372795
>Is that it?
Over 2M of images and they still load in 10 seconds or less
So as I said, either you're using some OS from 1989 or your HDD is seriously fucked
>>333372948
>Over 2M of images and they still load in 10 seconds or less
Yeah and I have a little magic leprechaun in my hard drive that beams the images into my head in under 1ms
>>333372948
you're not correct about anything, i don't know why you think you are.
if you change the sort type of a huge folder of pictures it's going to take forever for an HDD.
>>333372919
>There's very little difference between SSD and HDD when moving large file.
On SATA2 maybe, on SATA3 an SSD smokes a HDD. It's pretty much the only time the 6.0Gb/s bandwidth of SATA3 is actually used.
>>333373075
>get btfo so hard you resort to shitposting
Just pathetic, I feel bad for your relatives
>>333373105
>change to sort type
>of a folder
Fuck outta here you computer pleb, get a fucking image viewer software where sorting is an option, it's way fucking faster.
Just put your computer in sleep mode instead of turning it off. There, you have all the benefits of an SSD without having to spend a cent on one.
>>333373227
>you resort to shitposting
>said as you resort to shitposting
just stop
>>333373227
You can stop lying, Windows isn't loading 2M of any file in under 10 seconds.
>>333373264
>>333373314
>Help, mom, I can't read more than one word!!
>>333373348
Read the post chain, you imbecile, the argument was about loading thumbnails.
Once thumbnail generation is done, the thumbnails are cached and the next time they'll be loaded way fucking faster, you dumb fuck.
Fuck outta here
>>333373402
even if they loaded faster you won't load 2M of anything in 10 seconds
>>333373541
>you won't load 2M of anything in 10 seconds
Images are not equivalent to your 900GB BluRay ULTRA GOLD HD HD JAV rip, you fucking moron
>>333373571
and?
>>333373608
Jesus, you're one dense motherfucker
>>333372005
you jack off to dozens of little thumbnails at once?
>>333366716
>Storing your 1tb loli manga backlog on your ssd
>>333373716
You're lying on the internet. Congratulations, enjoy your impossibly fast HDD.
>>333373264
Wow I didn't know that would speed up my software loading. You should send this to Lifehacker!
>>333373571
2M images will take a lot longer for Windows to read than a single 900GB bluray rip would, even if those images amounted to being significantly smaller in size than 900GB.
You don't know a fucking thing about anything.
>>333367308
CHECK OUT THIS FAGGOT
>>333373225
>He thinks SATA is the only place SSDs can go
Oh anon.
Let me introduce you to a PCIE SSD.
>>333366382
I have a 500GB SSD and 2TB HDD. Why would I waste my money on a 1TB SSD.
SSD for OS and maybe 1-3 games (depends on how big the games are, of course, thanks to lazy-ass modern devs)
SSD will make a game load fast. If a game doesn't have much in the way of load-times or many loading screens then there's absolutely no point in putting it on an SSD, unless you're some autist who can SEE that whole extra 1sec load time.
Your favorite MMO or something like Skyrim are good to stick on an SSD.
>>333368473
what the flying fuck are you doing with almost 9TB of filled storage ffs?
I don't get how you people live with so much fucking memory usage. Are you one of those morons who saves every download "in case they need it" or what?
Other than music and games, there's no need for more space. 1TB is enough for me, heck, I'm only using around 50% right now.
Even since 1gb of ssd space costed less than 2dollars it's been recommended you use an ssd + HDD
Then you just think "what takes time to load and id liek to be faster" you install on ssd
>>333374027
>only sequential reads go over the available bandwidth of SATA3
The post you are replying to is saying the exact same thing you are, large sequential reads are where SSD shine.
>>333373845
>I don't know what metadata is or how it works
Reading a fuckton of smaller metadata is faster than reading one big chunk of metadata
Fucking learn your shit senpai
>>333374437
>>only sequential reads go over the available bandwidth of SATA3
Overhead on SATA3 is going to cap you at around 575MB/s, so that benchmark is all above the possibilities of a SATA3 drive, 4K reads are a meme and look like shit on everything.
>>333365863
So wait, if you're on your SSD OS and play games that are installed on the HDD, they're slower than if you're on your HDD OS? How does that make sense? Why would the SSD slow it?
>>333374441
You don't even know what metadata is, do you?
I hope for your sake you are just shitposting because the alternative is you are a complete and utter fucking moron.
>>333374161
>Your favorite MMO or something like Skyrim are good to stick on an SSD.
This reminds me
>ESO loads like shit on my HDD, taking like 20 seconds per loading screen (and they are everywhere)
>Put it on my Evo, which reads at ~550MB/s
>The loading screens are now maybe 19 seconds
Th-thanks
>>333374770
Maybe it's the game's netcode that makes loading so slow
>>333374659
The guy is just a complete fucking moron. Ignore absolutely everything he says.
>>333374714
Metadata is encrypted data to speed up the loading of actual data
Fucking everything has metadata since forever, because reading huge chunks of data is too much of a fucking waste of time and energy
>>333375359
>Metadata is encrypted data to speed up the loading of actual data
SSD is a very unreliable drive, they usually break down a lot more often than an HDD so just put the OS and the games you need to load fast on the SSD, use the HDD for everything else so you don't lose it.
>>333365798
>Relying on just an SSD
If you want to lose all your files when the drive possibly fails.
>>333376023
>Relying JUST on one set of RAM chips
If you want to lose all of your files when the RAM fails.
>>333364770
If you have an SSD over 300gb, install games on it and everything else on the HDD (obviously)
if you have an SSD smaller than 300GB, you're a dumbfuck.
SSD helps with loading times and loading textures ingame, if you have an SSD just for a windows "faster boot" you're stupid as fuck
>>333375967
>I think it's still 2010
>>333364993
this
>>333376074
SSD's are known to fail a lot more often than HDD's, I don't tell people not to use them but I keep that in mind.
>>333376221
>SSD's are known to fail a lot more often than HDD's,
Actually now it's the complete opposite. Good job on the whole freezing time thing though :')
>>333376221
>SSD's are known to fail a lot more often than HDD's
If you're living in 2010, yes.
If you're living in 2016, where controllers have 6PB of write capability, you're going to replace your SSD 10 times over before you max out its controller.
>>333368859
/g/ crossposters.
Why do you think it is always advised against asking /g/ for technology advice.
The only worthwhile threads in /g/ are Chinese Shit General and Watch General.
>>333376221
bitch, get updated.
>>333376023
1) Stop posting ancient SSD tech shit. You will replace a modern SSD after 5 years of use with 80% of its write controller still intact
2) If you're that worried buy an Intel SSD. When their cell count gets to dangerous levels, instead of completely failing when you reach the limit, the write controller self-destructs. Leaving your drive in a read-only state so your files can't be lost.
>>333364770
OS on SSD, games on HDD
>not having a pci express ssd
plebs
>>333369797
>>333369423
So. Who's the semen demon?
>>333374219
>not stockpiling files for the TPP holocaust
Just because you say "games" once in your OP doesn't make this /v/.
>>>/g/
512GB SSD
4TB HDD
the best of 2 worlds
>>333378420
>Not having 3D Xpoint
Top kek
>>333364770
How many rpms does a SSD has? NONE
HDD wins again
Don't install your OS on your SSD. Windows causes a lot of rewrites which decrease the lifespan of your HDD. Boot time does not matter, it's only like 1 minute on a low tier HDD anyway. Make a drink or something.
Use your SSD for games and applications.
>>333382804
look, kids! a moron!
>>333368876
:0 is dis nigga serious?
I never had a SSD before but how long does it usually last or wear? The HDDs I have seems to last about 5 to 7 years from my experience since I do a lot data moving.
>>333383162
look a shill. I know a friend who's SSD only lasted 2 years and he had win7 installed on it. There's so many things it's doing in the background. I bet you don't even disable updates.
>>333383885
Entirely depends on how you treat it. Cartridges from the atari 2600 still work today. Flash memory was only expected to last 10 years before corrupting itself due to leaking electrons. But those were read only. SSDs will corrupt if you rewrite blocks too many times due to voltage getting too high which leads to much shorter lifespan if you don't take that into consideration. This is why there was contraversy over denuvo.
>>333385756
you want to install your OS on the SSD. You do however, want to change a few options in windows 7 (8+ Its automatic) Like Search Indexing . AKA the thing thats doing all the "re-writes" and will kill and SSD.
Try harder fag
Easiest way to migrate os to ssd without reinstalling?
would you a 4tb HDD or a 4tb SSHD?
if you had a SSD for your OS
>>333386085
Move all data you don't want on the SSD to your external hard drive.
Shrink your installation in the Disk Manager
Get a SATA to USB adapter if you're running it on the PC you're copying (so if your laptop has to be powered on to move that data) or hook both SSD and original HDD to another computer via SATA
Get a cloning tool, can't think of a name, but just HDD cloning tool
Clone the HDD (the data on which MUST BE smaller than the SSD, so if you have 350GB on your HDD at the moment of cloning, you need AT LEAST 350 GB SSD, better safe than sorry and go with the next good multiplier, so in this case 480GB)
set in BIOS that you want to boot from this drive if you have another one in your computer (an HDD with windows on it)
You're done, it boots from the SSD and you have all the data on your external.
Sources: I did this to my laptop & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlw2bu2Cjuk This video will give you a basic idea.
>>333368473
>have 120gb ssd
>only have win 7, other system programs like antivirus, etc.
>have 1tb hdd
>have had it since 2011 and have never filled it up half way
>i even reformatted it about 9 times.
>>333387047
>1TB HDD
>never filled it up half way
Why are you paying for all those porn subscriptions?
>240gb SSD
>1tb HDD
I put my OS and games whose gameplay can be affected by loading times on SSD.
So I put games like rocket league and civ on hdd but Skyrim on SSD so I barely notice the transition.
>tfw lore and tips flash by with no chance to read them
>>333388518
Does it really work that smooth? I'm thinking of getting some program that moves programs around from SSD to HDD and the other way around, so that I can:
>download game
>move it to SSD for lightning speed
>play it through
>if it is deemed memorable/it's something that doesn't load that slowly w/o SSD, I move it to HDD
>keep some fucking slow-to-load programs on my SSD (Word & stuff)
Is there any such program /v/ knows about?
>>333376221
Care to show some sources to back that up?
And please make the recent. SSD technology has progressed a lot in the last 3 years.
>>333374219
>ffs
>1TB for gams and movies
>50% Usage
>implying youre not a normie
Anon, the average game takes up 30~70gb, youre either playing at least 5 games, or you just watch a shitton of videos and only play one game.
>>333391891
>30-70GB
>average game
Pick one. Most games I have don't go over 10GB and the only ones I can think of I play are Witcher 3, MGS5 and such. Yes, I have older games installed. And most of them are under 10GB.
Also, I'm not that Anon.
>MFW my Vertex 3 has around 520 days on for the past 3 years
Best purchase in my life, shit just works better. I wish I wasn't a poorfag and went for somethings bigger than 256gb
>>333373796
>manga
m8, how the fuck, do you have scans of every issue of comic l?
>>333368473
Only reason I have 5TB of hard drive is because I'm obsessively storing blu-ray rip of anime I'll never rewatch. I could probably do with 1 TB otherwise.
