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This image is from 2011. Is it still accurate today?
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kojima is chaotic good

tim schafer is a cuck who hasn't made anything good since psychonauts
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>gabe
>anywhere even close to the good side
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I bet Gabe hasn't read an email since after HL2:EP2 Shipped
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>>333358515

Needs to be heavily updated because we all know that Kotick has been vindicated after Schafer turned out to be exactly what he said.
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I haven't seen Bobby Kotick on here for years
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>>333358515
Switch Bobby with Gabe and this image is still kind of accurate.
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>>333358940
>one douche is a douche
>this makes the other douche more acceptable
They're both gigantic faggots.
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kotick is lawful neutral

molyneux is irrelevant
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>4.4
>good
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>>333358515
The Steam Fatso should be downgraded to neutral at best and evil at worse (remember paid mods?)
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>>333358515
I still cringe at these kinds of images.
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Gabe is dead.

Given how the entire fucking industry is shit-tier now (even compared to 2011) i think Kotick deserves some slack. Hes just a businessman.
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>>333358940
He wasn't vindicated, he was just right about Schaefer being a fraud. Being right once doesn't undo all the shit Activision did. If anything he should just be left out because he's not even relevant to videogames anymore.

Either way Mr Shitface definitely belongs in evil now.
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Kotick is/was right.
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>>333358515
Who are the neutral evil and chaotic evil guys?
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>>333360247
Bioware guy and Zynga guy
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>Miyamoto ruined Paper Mario
>Gabe went full jew
>Tim was outed as shit
>Molyneux is gone
Are there no heroes left in game developement?
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>>333359271
Kotick is not neutral, he's still evil.

And Molyneux is permanent forever, though Chaotic Neutral fits him way more than Lawful Neutral.
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>>333360340
MH team but they Generations is about to ruin that so...
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Kotick isn't even relevant. He learned to shut his mouth so he'd stop generating bad PR.
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was gabe right about james?
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>>333360352
Kotick only said that quote to investors so they would invest capital in an industry that was widely seen as a playground.

He was right about Tim "sockpuppet" Schafer being a total hack. Kotick was right all along.
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Gabe hasn't made a video game since Portal 2.
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>>333358515
Gabe is now chaotic neutral. He's not good anymore. He commits evil out of ignorance but isn't evil.
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>>333358515
/v/ puts Gaben into "worse than Hitler" nowadays
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>>333358515
Holy shit 2011 /v/ was retarded
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>Bobby is in this very thread
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>>333358515
Tim Schafer is irrelevant now. Replace with Kamiya as chaotic good. Peter also irrelevant. Move Todd to Molyneux spot of lawful neutral. He's now in it for the business/money and Zenimax pulls his strings. Move Gabe to chaotic neutral instead. Kojima replaces old Gabe spot of neutral good. Evil probably needs to be redone but can't think of the best ones
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>>333360531
He gives Platinum Games work and has been pretty hands off on how deck work as long as they give him money. It's pretty much confirmed Bungie had internal problems and Activision just watched until the deadline.
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>>333360352
He could be considered neutral in the sense that he doesn't actively seek out malevolent actions but just acts purely in self interest without much consideration for others. As much as I dislike Activision and Kotick, I have to admit they're good at business. They do what they do because it works.

I guess it depends on what you're idea of the chart for this context is, though.

>>333360909
I would have agreed up until he went to fig. That was the moment he went from "fuck up" to "pure scam artist".
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>>333358515
Other then Jackie Chan and Gabe Newell, I don't know any of those guys.
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As much as it hurts to admit Gabe doesn't deserve that spot anymore.

I guess there's hoping that what they have been working on for the past few years is going to revolutionize something but it's a long shot.
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>>333361249
>Kojima
>good

Lol, he ruined his game for a booty call he never got
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Gaben isn't good anymore.
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>>333358515
Relevant image,this time just chinks.
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>>333361352

>I guess there's hoping that what they have been working on for the past few years is going to revolutionize something

Wait, you don't actually believe they've been working on anything aside from ways to monetize other peoples hard work and jew the absolute fuck out of consumers, do you?
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>>333361495
No I don't, but I'm still hoping.
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>>333360340
Molyneux was never a hero, just a smooth talker.
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>>333361450
Where is Shinji Mikami?
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>>333358515
Nope, because Kotick was right about Schafer being a retard who couldn't manage time or money if his life depended on it.
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>>333361818
>Gabe and Todd get to be evil but Bobby is good

You pushed it too far, Kotick. You should probably go back to lurking.
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>>333361450
Cookie-face was right though. Fuck the casual scum who demand everything be catered to them, they're no better than SJWs.
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>>333360436
How? The game already came out laddie boy.
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Bobby Kotick did nothing wrong.
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>>333361047
It's not about being retarded,things just change.
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>>333361927
Kotick is making good arcade shooters once in a while, how is he a bad guy?
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>>333362041
I read it like he was some kind of stereotypical Italian.
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>>333361818
molyneux is most definitely not a true neutral
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>>333358515
>Miyamoto
More like he should fucking retire already and free the space bracket.
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>>333360436
It was a shitty in-between spinoff game, if it was mainline then you'd have a point.
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>>333362276
Neutral seems more fitting, really. He's a businessman, not a game developer. He's a damn fine businessman, but that's the most I can give him.
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>>333362041
Problem is now that those games are so successful my games are trying to emulate them.
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>>333358908
Of course not.

He ate all of them.
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>>333360436
>>333362485
You guys have obviously not played it yet. Listen, I've been playing since FU and MHX is fucking amazing and airtight. Every new monster and even revamped old ones are a thrill to fight. The hunter arts are a fun addition to the mechanics and mounting isn't as spamworthy (one of my biggest complaints with 4u). There's also way more to do and doesn't get stale as quick as 4u did. I don't know where you're hearing that it's not good but I played it for months nonstop and had one hell of a time.
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>>333358515
Kotick did nothing wrong other than milk shitty franchises. Tim Schafer is a hack
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>>333358515
They all turned out to be shit and/or incompetent except Carmack and maybe Miyamoto.
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>>333362660
Refined it. Will gladly accept a quote from Tim that sums up how he's cancer now.
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>>333362983
>Carmack
Dude who made Facebook mask and Halo 6: Doom Edition?
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>>333362335
Oh fuck you, now I can't unhear it.
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>>333359464
>remember paid mods?
I do.I also think that all those bozoes belong in neutral and below.
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>>333363039
> Todd
> Lawful neutral
> It just werks when Bethesda games are the buggiest pieces of crap on the market
If anything it's lawful evil.
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>>333363039
Better already, thanks.
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Thread theme:

https://youtu.be/e7qQ6_RV4VQ
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>>333358515
>Kotick turned out to be the lesser evil
Besides Carmack and Kotick, everyone else turned to be a fucking asshole and yes, that includes Miyamoto
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>>333363039
i believe schafer and molyneux are on the same tier. They're both currently dreadful developers who pathologically over-promise and end up producing absolute shit games, if anything at all.

unfortunately that doesn't work well for the alignment chart
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>>333363039
You could probably just toss in one of those pics of him eating money and not even have to bother with a quote.

I'd put Kamiya in Chaotic Good.
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>>333363553
Moly is neutral. I still think the guy means well but has poor budgeting skills and over promises. Schaefer has stooped low enough to actively mock the community.
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>>333363553
Molyneux doesn't behave like a total asshole m8.
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Put Todd in lawful evil
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>>333362893
I played it, I'm HR 137 right now. The only reason I play MHX anymore, the absolute only reason is that it has Pirate J equips. I keep going back to 4U even though my weaponfu is shit there (switch axe).
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>>333364004
Molyneux started seeming like more of a scumbag after the whole god-cube nonsense, but Schafer still outpaces him in pure dickishness. Plus Molyneux has fallen into obscurity because of all the bullshit he spews so no one really pays attention to him anymore. Schafer is still actively scamming the hell out of people.
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>A delayed game is eventually good, but a bad game is bad forever
Not only is this a misquote (its "A delayed game is eventually good, bud a rushed game is forever bad") but neither are even true. A bad game can be patched these days and eventually become good (FFXIV being a good example), and so can a rushed game (the HD collection of Zone of the Enders). Bad quote is bad.
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KOTICK WAS RIGHT
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>>333358708
>psychonauts 2
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>>333358515
>schafer
>good
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>>333363039
Carmack and Molyneux have not made a game in forever, replace them with someone else.
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I'm thoroughly convinced that Gaben was killed and replaced with an evil doppelganger
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>>333361818
>>333358515
>>333363039
i'm surprised this one is not in there
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>>333365773
>FFXIV being a good example
FF14 was pretty much completely remade.
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Who was that dumbass we all hated who constantly tried to predict major changes in gaming and was wrong virtually every time? You know, the one who said that nobody would buy a Wii and Nintendo would die as a result? Fuck that guy.
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>>333366239
>corrupted
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>>333366342
Pachter? Yeah he was a real fucker.
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>>333363039
Todd should be CN. Bethesda as a whole is probably LE, but Todd himself is definitely CN.
Carmack can take his LN place. He loves what he does and wants to make only the best, but he rarely cares about people who are going to use his product.
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>>333360352
With Godus he seems more like neutral evil to be honest. I followed that one for a while and it was the most blatant cash grab. And in that case it wasn't even just that he overpromised stuff and then his team couldn't deliver - if his staff didn't lie then he explicitly stopped them from properly communicating with the customers and was intentionally ripping off the PC community to use that money for the mobile development.
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>>333358515

>>333333333
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>>333358515
We all know it's not.

>>333366941
Curiosity is the bigger waste of everyone's fucking time.
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>>333362041
>no-scoping in TF2 as the sniper
I don't need CoD. I'd love to see more and more bad snipers. Wouldn't affect comp since smart people only play stacks and pubs never matter since it's everyone for themselves on half the servers. TF2 was already full of squeaker children, now it's worse than ever since it's free.
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>>333362041
No thank you, Kotick.

The idea of "more for me" doesn't exist. In order for more games to exist, we need more people to play those games.

It doesn't matter if they suck. If the existing community is adamant they'll change, if not, well they'll always serve as fodder.
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Are there any good quotes from Satan?
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>>333367736
What has EA even done lately?
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>>333361818
I was about to ask what Carmack was doing in Chaotic but

>BATTLE AXE
>BATTLE AXE
>BATTLE AXE
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>>333367781
Battlefront.
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>>333366090
Carmack doesn't need to make games, he's going to fucking space.

Also the Gabe pic really needs to be replaced with a newer one. Friendly, smiling, Lennon glasses Gaben is long, long gone, replaced by that Stallman looking abomination he's become.
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>>333367736
Is EA actually run by the devil himself? Like holy shit nigga
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>>333367736
>No Mr. Bond, I expect you to buy
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>>333361450
What? Oatmeal cookie isn't evil. He's Chaotic Good like Kamiya
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>>333358515
Yes, alignments are still fucking retarded so it is still fucking retarded
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>>333366694
Why did anyone ever believe him to begin with?
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>despite being a greedy jew who only cares about money from the packaged foods industry, bobby kotick is no longer considered evil because he called an idiot an idiot
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>>333363039
>true neutral
>only because of one quote
Fuck off.
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>>333367736
I AM HORNY
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Gaben; no man in the business has had his dick sucked by brainless hordes of fans more than this fat fuck. The man who outright says, we don't need to make games because we make money by being the bargain bin for everyone else's games !
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>>333371093
you can say what you want about steam's business practices but there's nothing inherently wrong with deciding not to make games
another half-life game would be irrelevant and mediocre, probalby why they haven't made one
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>>333365773
Like Diablo 3 amirite?
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Miyamoto now is chaotic evil.
"Die as a hero or live long enough to become the villain."
Fuck what he did to paper mario.
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Gaben is neutral evil now
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>>333371393
>there's nothing inherently wrong with deciding not to make games

extremely profitable company. not making games. literally cancer. and I do mean literally the textbook edition of cancer; cells that grow abnormally big and end up parasitically inhibiting the functionality of an organ. and their business model that cock sucking fans praise is being testing by anyone other than Valve themselves. a business model that is making publishers take even greater pauses between games because they wait for the long run profitability of steam and akin sales models. in other words the one good thing about the console market; being very responsive, steam is taking a royal dumb on that. steam is the worse thing that happened to aaa single player gaming

>>333371663
>Gaben is neutral evil now

this.
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>>333365773
If you release a game that needs to be patched to be good then that game is bad forever. No amount of patching has ever made a game good. It's only made them tolerable.
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>>333371663

>tfw you realize Gaben led Valve into a money-generating machine to protect HL3 from modern gaming
>tfw you realize Gaben must appear to be a heartless man to preserve a thing so close to the hearts of millions
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Who are the Neutral and Chaotic Evil guys?
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>>333358515
Chaotic neutral? more like chaotic dreamy.
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>>333372645
>to protect HL3 from modern gaming

valve missed the train, the same way blizzard missed the train with rts and diablo. they took too long and now game genres that used to be popular are dead.
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>>333372115
>extremely profitable company. not making games. literally cancer.
how is it cancerous to not make games? they aren't inhibiting anyone else from making games by doing this. dont say "because steam this and because steam that", specifically state why not making games is bad for anyone. it's not like they're tying up talented employees, anyone is free to leave valve to a company that actually makes games (which they have)
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>>333372816
>the same way blizzard missed the train with rts and diablo
wot
Diablo 3 sold ridiculous numbers
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>>333372852
>how is it cancerous to not make games?

being such a fagot.
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>>333366239
He doesn't fit into the basic 3x3 chart.

He's the embodiment of true evil.
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>>333363184
carmack hasn't been with id in ages what hte fuck you talking about doom for
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>>333358515
Kotick is true neutral. Carmack should replace Gaben. Gaben hasn't done anything neutral good in a very long time. Kotick is not evil, not good, he's just a businessman.

Schafer is evil. Maybe replace Kotick as lawful evil.
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>>333368084
He's very handsome.

I would swear allegiance to him.
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>>333373810
carmack hasn't done fuck all in ages either, he literally has not been working in the gaming industry since 2008

he went off to do the space thing for a while, then he joined facebook through occulus

no videogames.

schafer isn't evil, you just disagree with him. he still makes the same type of games he always has. If you liked old schafer games, you'll like new schafer games. Provided you don't go into a blind fit of rage every time he retweets a woman.

Kotick as true neutral is the only thing you've said that makes sense. He doesn't give a fuck about whether what he does helps games or hurts them. He cares about whether it makes him money.
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>>333358515
Zynga is dead
Kotick is barely relevant
Molyneux is barely relevant
Schafer is nowhere near Good

It could use some updates
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>>333374118
>If you liked old schafer games, you'll like new schafer games. Provided you don't go into a blind fit of rage every time he retweets a woman.
No, if I liked old Schafer games I like old LucasArts games. It doesn't mean I like crap like Broken Age, Brutal Legend, Costume Quest or Grim Fandango/Day of the Tentacle run through a advmame2 filter. Psychonauts was good. One hit wonder.
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>>333374362
>list a bunch of good games
>punctuate it with a good game that's getting a sequel
just stop following him on twitter, you'll start having fun again I promise.
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>>333367736
I just searched "Andrew Wilson interview" and came up with this.

http://venturebeat.com/2015/06/17/ea-ceo-andrew-wilson-dishes-on-players-first-star-wars-battlefront-and-mass-effect/

I mean, I just don't fucking know. This
>I said, okay, the player needs to be the lens through which we see the world and the filter through which we make decisions – and if we do that everyone wins.
Sounds like the good-est thing I've ever heard a CEO say. What gives?
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What would he be?
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>>333374492
I don't have social media.

>list a bunch of good games
Okay. Good for you.

Brutal Legend was a good collection of cutscenes with mediocre gameplay.
Costume Quest was a Newgrounds-tier baby's first RPG.
Broken Age was garbage that would have been a better cartoon than a game (a common theme with Double Fine games).
And there was nothing wrong with the original Grim Fandango and Day of the Tentacle that warranted a "remake" (remaster? whatever).
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>>333374686
transformation pic when
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>>333374686
>sue people who pirate but then backpedal hard
>make a great game that is all about its excellent writing but tack on a pointless open world to rope in skyrim faggots
He doesn't know himself
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>>333365971
Case in point
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>>333374613
He's actually pretty based. As expected from the fucking devil himself.
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>>333358515
>Chaotic good
>Literally a thief who steals from his fans and makes bad games at the best of times
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>>333361450
lol literally don't know who any of these chinks are
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>>333361450
Neutral Evil?!

THAT GUY IS CHAOTIC GOOD!

FUCK BAYONETTA MAN! REMOVE HIM!
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Where would you put me /v/?
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>>333373953
Nigga, that's a Bond villain and you know it
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>>333375134
You're only making my allegiance to him harder.

If you know what I mean.
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>>333374782
Now

>>333374805

He will be known as a great hero when he finally drains the last of his life force into cyberpunk 2077 and delivers a masterpiece.
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>>333366538
did someone say...
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>>333375065
In the garbage bin
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>>333366239
Who dat?
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>>333375217
I hope Cyberpunk will have an actual good open world instead of a bunch of bandit camps and smuggler caches with garbage loot
Why can't people make more games like Gothic?
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>>333375278
>latest patches
This meme again...
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>>333375326
Go back to the garbage bin, Jay.
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We can all agree that JE Sawyer is LE, right?
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>>333358515
I don't know who the last guy is.

But it ought to have been Yves Guillemot.
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>>333375065
On a hair transplant list.
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>>333362690
then tell the guys who make your game to stop trying to copy others and actually invent something new and work on their old games to improve them, Fuck sake Diablo 2 got a patch last month and Diablo 1 servers are still up and online.
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>>333374857
What did he ever steal?

And I quite liked Broken Age.
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>>333375387
>guy behind FNV
>evil
I doubt that PoE was that much of a let down that he could be considered a peer of the CEO's of Activision, EA or Ubisoft
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>>333375278
>trying to paint D3 as not still being beyond awful.

Why would you do such a thing? To point and laugh when people waste their money?
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>>333361818
gabe has to be removed. he does not exist anymore
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Miyamoto is a hypocrite he frowned upon dance central yet pushed his abysmal wii music games like it's the second coming. He's been out of touch for at least a 6-8 years.
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Everyone is neutral at best now.
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>Gabe
>Tim
>good

And the guy who looks like Satan who is EA's CEO needs to be added.
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>>333361818
Karnack is true neutral.
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>>333375553
I know /v/ really doesn't like Sawyer lately, but I thought PoE was alright (a bit of a step down, but nothing to cry about). Still, this guy's "public image" is LE. A good-intentioned and more often than not, a LE that provides quality results, but LE nevertheless.
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>>333361450
miyamoto is lawful evil
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>>333375731
Molyneux and Karnack need to switch places
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>>333375669
Those two were similar in exactly zero ways, so I don't see how that makes him a hypocrite.

Out of touch? Yes. His love for his own old creation, Pacman VS, led to the design of a whole console for playing that type of game, and nobody gets it or wants it.

And it doesn't even have fucking Pacman VS.
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>>333374613
>What gives?

He looked like a stereotypical evil corporate hollywood villain that one time at E3; that's it.
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>>333375853
>Those two were similar in exactly zero ways, so I don't see how that makes him a hypocrite.
Yeah two music themed games build around gimmick controllers have nothing in common. Waggle yourself to death you stupid drone
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>>333375776
Calm down, your butthurt is radiating all the way to northern canada
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>>333376018
He has also managed to make the company worse than what it was under Ruccola's lead
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>>333376042
Seeing as those two descriptors actually have nothing to do with gameplay mechanics, I'd say you're an idiot.

Dance central is a functional Guitar Hero rip-off that gets people moving.

Wii music is basically a non-game learning tool for kids that want to know about rhythm construction and arrangement.
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>>333358515
Shigi isn't the nintendo person I'd put in Lawful Good any more.
I'd leave gaben.
I wouldn't put Tim near good.
The two compulsive liars in neutral I guess I'd put and leave in Chaotic Neutral.
Carmack is fine.
I don't even know the bottom middle and right guy's names but they seem like good places for them.

I'd put Ken Levine somewhere on that list saying any number of doushy things he's said.
I'd have David Cage on there with his quote "Game overs are a failure of game design".
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>>333363039
Tim is neutral if anything
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>>333367736
This guy looks like he reports back to Satan
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>any of those guys
>in Good
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>>333367736
I gotta give him props for actually dressing up. Unlike all the other mantards
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>>333360340
toby fox
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>>333361818
Todd Howard himself isn't evil. The reason Bethesda games are what they are today is mostly because of poor internal management and Zenimax being dicks.
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>>333377268
>stealing
>neutral
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>>333365971
Not out yet, and judging from his current record will go down like this:

>After fundraiser closes, releases a year late.
>Only half the game, despite funding supposedly hitting 30x+ the goal
>Second fund raiser
>More of the game, but doesn't finish it. Instead lets the fans finish the game themselves.
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