>Amsterdam, The Netherlands – April 5, 2016/ Daum Games today announced that Black Desert Online has sold 400.000 copies in its first month on the European and North American markets. Black Desert Online is expected to become one of Korea’s most successful games in the West as it is drawing exceptionally favorable early responses with its new player base.
>“Considering the upward trend, I expect that the game will achieve over one million sales this year. What’s impressive is these figures far exceed those in the domestic market,” Daum Games Europe CEO Min Kim said in an interview in Seoul, last Wednesday.
>Furthermore, Black Desert Online’s cash shop is also performing extremely well. “A game with a buy-to-play business model normally has a much lower conversion rate for paid in-game items compared to free-to-play games,” explains Kim. “But Black Desert Online is recording a much higher pay ratio than the average 11 percent normally seen in free-to-play games.”
>Black Desert Online now boasts an average of 100.000 concurrent users.
http://massivelyop.com/2016/04/05/daum-eu-confirms-black-desert-figures-400k-western-sales-in-first-month/
HOLY SHIT
So, what's your excuse for not playing?
Neat.
Game is pretty fun desu
>>333334347
>So, what's your excuse for not playing?
FF XIV
>>>333333333
>>333334347
first +15 yesterday nigga
>>333334347
i am, and it kind of rekindled my love for MMOs
No trial to try the game first
Wildstar sold 500k in its first month and look where it's at now
>>333334347
>So, what's your excuse for not playing?
I don't play MMOs.
>>333334347
>So, what's your excuse for not playing?
boring classes. Give me a Necro class already.
It's tank and spank horseshit
Busy with work.
The game is a one time purchase like guild wars 1, right?
>>333334894
That's what i said before my friend gave me a 7 day pass, it's tonnes of fun
>>333334914
I feel like you don't know a whole lot about the game
>>333334347
That there are no east coast servers and all the servers are in the west. Kind of hard for me to play a twitch action MMO when ping is through the roof.
>>333335102
East coast player here, get better Internet poorfag.
>400.000
Congrats on selling 400 copies
I'll give it a shot when there's a trial
>>333335038
Give me three group fights that isn't zerg-rush
BDO would be a billion times better if:
A. Flagging/unflagging for pvp had a cooldown
B. There were PvE only channels or servers
and
C. If the level 49 pvp enable quest is re-added.
This is of course for NA version.
>Thousands of people play koreaboo trash
And we wonder why video games are dead.
is this already localized? i thought this was supposed to be years away, like how it took NCSoft a decade to localized Blade & Soul (which I guess is dead now)
what a shame every Korean MMO ever is a flavor of the month game, though, since they're all shitty Lineage clones in the same way all western market MMOs have all been shittier versions of WoW. At least korean games up their grafix every iteration instead of staying the same yet requiring more and more hardware to brute force shitty broken & unoptimized machine code, I guess.
>>333335159
>"Internet" affecting latency and ping from the opposite side of the fucking country
fuck off retard
Is it worth $30 right now? Will it be?
>>333334347
Too bad the game is cash shop heavy. You need to buy extra inventory slots with real money to keep up with high end crafting and everyone wears the same gear unless you pay for different looks in the cash shop.
>>333335269
The focus of the game isn't PvE
If you wanted to make a point about PvE your answer as an informed consumer would have been "It's not a PvE game"
>>333334347
>400,000
>Anything to be proud of
BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY
Is Black Desert the game with the end game boss fight that looks like a 20 minute long rave of flashing colors?
>>333335340
yeah, it's a pretty shallow game unfortunately
nothing else to play tho
>>333335431
Not really.
>>333334347
Because I was one of those people who preordered it. The game is just so horrible. To craft an item you need to gain contribution points which you get by doing shitty bottom-barrel tier MMO quests that are all "Go here and kill this thing," and then when you go back and hand it in another person RIGHT NEXT to that guy has a quest to go back to the same place and kill the same thing. It's infuriating.
And then after that you need to spend your energy gathering the materials, which you then take to a town that has a workshop that you bought with your contribution points you worked so hard to get (most of the time you'll need to buy a fuck load of houses just to unlock the one you want to buy) and then spend energy RNGing a decent worker, who will then take HOURS to make the item. And fuck you if you want them to repeat it - if you want your worker to repeat the item you have to run the game 24/7 because they won't repeat it if you log off.
Fuck this game. Also log in every day for loyalty points. Great.
>>333334347
>So, what's your excuse for not playing?
I'm more fond of card games tho (and no, I don't find fun at all Hearthstone)
>>333335409
So fishing, CC-spam PvP and ERPing?
WoW has 5mil subs and people talk about it like it's dying lol.
>>333335342
>Ping isn't reliant on your ISP
Ya sure okay bud :^)
The Korean MMORPG cycle
>Oh my god look at this beautiful character customization and gorgeous graphics! I can make mai waifu!
>Wow, real-time action combat, meaningless house building bullshit, and empty promises! It's everything I ever wanted!
>It's time to get on board this hype train!
>A few weeks later
>Well, that was a waste of time, nothing but mindless grind padded with fluff. How did I fall for that AGAIN?
>>333335682
More than 80% of that number is inflated by RMT chinks. The game is dead as fuck in North America and there's only a few popular EU servers left.
Why do all of the characters in this game look like korean plastic surgery gooks?
No high-end pve.
I am playing and gave my 2 7 day trials to /vg/. Might try to snipe a few off reddit for you guys.
>>333335854
idk
pretty diverse for 1 class
>>333335431
Yes. Look at how fucking fun Black Desert Online is
http://youtu.be/Cn1voEtFV5M
>>333334347
do you fucking yuropoors seriously use a dot instead of a comma when showing numbers over 3 figures?
I can't wait for the hardcore mmo revival. It has to come eventually, all of these games are piss easy and created for millennial retards with ADD. Someone out there will make a hardcore game and those of us familiar with the oldschool will play the shit out of it. Disappointing how all MMOs turned into little pussy wow clones.
>>333334347
>sell 400k
>average 100k players online at any time
yeah no....
>>333335949
>Diverse
>All generic sameface weebshit
>i'm an australian shitposter so the latency will be shit
>lack of PVE support
>korean grinding
All I want is a decent PVE MMO that isn't some rotation bullshit.
>>333336104
>players must have no lives to be counted
>>333335969
>literally stand there and attack for 20 minutes
>move once or twice for adds
wow, immersive
>>333335038
I feel you don't know a lot about the game
>>333336147
This game actually has a fantastic character creator.
>>333335969
RAINBOW POWERRRR
>>333336045
What counts as a hardcore MMO? Even popular shit before WoW like Ultima, FFXI, and Everquest were casual games.
>>333335342
Your ISPs hardware and routing nodes can absolutely affect ping. When I switched from Rogers to Teksavvy, my ping to the same WoW server was cut in half.
ships*
>>333334347
400,000 copies actually means the game will only survive 6 months, Korean TORtanic right there.
I don't know anything about it
Does it have orcs? Not playing if Icant be an orc
>>333336286
he wants to grind 100 hours to get attuned for every single dungeon then make sure 40 of his "friends" are online to do a raid
>>333336406
return to wow, wowcuck
>>>333333332
>>333336251
Yeah. It's really good at making thousands of generic sameface animus with different haircuts and body types.
400k for an MMO is a death sentence. The drop off is going to be horrible. This game is dead within 9 months. Low energy.
>>333334347
It's bloated as fuck, I hate mod-based MMOs, andI'd get too lost with the character creator. And that's regardless of the price model.
>>333335969
>WoW cuck worrying about nothing but themepark raiding
What a shock.
It's a sandbox game based around PvP, dumbass.
BDO is fun, good MMO, though the cash shop is a bit ridiculous (but not p2win).
Anyone know if Mind Training stacks for Witch/Wizard?
>So, what's your excuse for not playing?
ip block. fucking hell
>>333336474
>Warcraft invented orcs
kek
>>333336286
FFXI was hardcore when the level cap was 75 before they added all the soloing shit. EQ and ultima weren't casual you probably didn't even play them.
>>333336643
Training skills stack just like the others.
>>333334347
>>333333333
>>333336561
>i-i-it doesn't have good PVE because it wasn't intended to!
>m-muh sandbox!
delusional fanboys at their finest, making excuses for shit content
>>333336251
I believed from this all the videos up until I bought the game.
It's not that amazing, you can basically deviate 20% from the default character. The only way to look absolutely different it so fuck up your eye spacing and size until you look like an alien.
Hair options are super limited (and 90% cash shop), body shape control is shit and just tries to force you into that Zero Hips Thunder-thighs shape.
>>333335682
>WoW
>5mil subs
>>333336694
Those games were casual and can be played casually. Just because you had poopsockers like Brotherhood of Steel doesn't mean it was hardcore.
>>333336786
>Every MMO need to have a clear cut raid gear tiering system with raids as the sole content focus!
Just go back to WoW, you're not cut out for non-themepark MMOs.
>>333335806
>More than 80% of that number is inflated by RMT chinks.
[Citation needed]
>>333336786
>If it's not a raid, it's shit content
Fuck off back to your Blood Elf, you're the reason MMOs are dying.
Have they added sieges and territorial warfare yet?
>WoW addicts find an MMO that isn't a raid grinder themepark PvE game
>Cry bitch tears about it
WoW seriously fucking murdered MMOs.
>>333336992
They havent, but it should be in the next update.
>>333336907
Citation: Blizzard's financial reports stopped announcing their subs based on region and you can log into any WoW server and find RMT bots everywhere
This is the most success the game will ever see. It's all down hill from here. I know two people in real life who said they're already bored with it.
>>333335682
>5mil subs
how many of those forgot to take off recurring payments?
>>333337042
>I'm retarded enough to think that 80% of an MMO can be gold farmers even though that makes absolutely 0 economic sense
>>333333333
>>333337056
Goes for every MMO after the initial 1-2 months. They just have to hope they plateau well enough.
>>333335609
Wow, that doesn't sound fun at all. ESO had some of the same problems with crafting wait time horse shit
>>333337056
> I know two people in real life who said they're already bored with it.
damn....
>>333334887
This
How good an MMO does early on is never indicative of how or if it will last. The market is just too hostile, and fickle.
I am interested to see if they take any new spins on it. I've been waiting for a popular MMO to feature an active combat system. Black Desert have this? Or do they default to the WoW scheme?
>It's the TORtanic boys, remember TORtanic? Best /v/ days ever. Every game is TORtanic. This is TOOOOORtanic boys!!!
Hey look, every game release on /v/
>>333334347
Is it f2p?
Looks interesting, I was thinking about playing it just for the god-tier graphics. Is it true that it's completely P2W?
blizzard individually counted all the temp accounts that koreans make in cybercafes to their grand total
Lineage has 5 million subs, too
>>333337131
Not all are gold farmers, they powerlevel bot or they spam whisper people. WoW is so dead these days that the auction house in towns are now cross faction, ashran now let's you fight against the same faction, and servers are being cross realmed more than ever now.
>>333337227
If you take 2 seconds to look up game play you'll know. I'll spoon feed you tho and tell you its not point and click. You have the option of assigning hotkeys to abilities but they will take less resources and deal less damage. Depending on your class you can combo abilities. I play a giant and as long as I don't wiff my shit I can completely control an opponent.
However the game isn't balanced around 1v1.
>>333337335
They should get it over with and just kill it off with a grand apocalypse event.
>>333334347
Im done with mmos especially with the time sinks. I grow up anyways dont have time to have a second job in game.
Also world of this black desert does not interest me at all.
400k sounds pretty fucking terrible for an AAA title.
>>333337508
>AAA title
?????
>>333337292
No, stop listening to /v/. Just the TORtanic 2 screaming kids that made this shit board what it is today. If you live in NA or EU you're fine.
Cash shop is 99% armour outfits (codemetic skins, not gear)
The only advantage the cash shop has is the Ghillie Suit which instantly reveals someone is a parroting retard if they mention because the ghillie suit blows. You're still visible and you're still on the minimap (which good players constantly keep an eye on).
No one even uses the fucking Ghillie anymore since flares exist anyway.
If you're Russian, it's pretty p2w, if you're fucking Korean don't bother it's 100% p2w.
>>333336794
>until I bought the game.
>Hair options are super limited (and 90% cash shop)
What? Are you sure you bought the game?
>>333337508
It isn't an AAA title. It's made by Koreans in sweatshops
>>333336147
Just cause you can play a panda doesn't
Make your game better
>>333334347
I give it 6 months before ded.
A friend bought it and simply doesn't play it.
>>333335202
>being this uneducated
kill yourself
>People are paying for a game for the privilege of paying more in the ingame cash shops
>>333337668
I never said WoW was good. Not that WoW being shit stops your cancerous weebfilth from being putrid shit.
>Wildstar went F2P after a year
>Tera went F2P after a year
>GW2 went F2P
>Black Desert Online is already F2P in Russia and Korea
>WoW is basically F2P with gametime tokens
>Meanwhile FFXIV is 3 years old and still requires a subcripripm and is set to get their 2nd expansion early next year
How does FFXIV do it?
>>333337773
Weeb stands for Weeaboo. Weeaboo stands for Wapanese which stands for Western Japanese.
This game is a Korean MMO.
Koreans hate Japanese
Japanese hate Koreans.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
>>333337892
Cancerous weebfags and their autism bux are soon parted.
>>333337892
fanboyism and loyalty
What you really should be asking is how does FFXI or EVE do t?
Both of those games are just as old as the internet
>>333337735
>being this much of a yuropoor
import some more muslims
What's with MMO players and being so fervent and stubborn in the defense of their preferred MMO?
Your game is allowed to have flaws my man.
>>333338061
Your game's flaws are worse than my game's flaws.
>>333337945
shut up nerd
>>333338040
Except I'm not a yuropoor. Continue having sub 80 IQ, fag.
>>333337627
Yes. Here is the character creation screen. All the hairs I have to pay for are marked with a P.
That's 5 free hairs, 18 paid.
>>333334347
Doesn't work on wine and my windows install disc is fucking broken or something.
It's too bad, it looks pretty fun.
>>333337892
It's the least shittiest modern MMO
>>333334347
>it's a "sells determines quality" meme shilling thread
>>333337892
Some FF fans are literally retarded and think they have to play every game that says FF on it.
Source: I was one of these people until FF11 released when I didn't like MMOs and realized there was no point in playing it
>>333337574
>>333337642
The initial budget for this is 20 000 000 000 SKW which is over 17 mil USD according to Inven, not including updates.
That means nothing for MMOs. Warhammer Online sold over a million copies at release. What was your excuse for not playing?
>>333334347
Bad numbers for an MMO
>>333336864
Everquest and UO could be played casually but they also offered very hardcore experiences if you wanted it. That doesn't make them casual games.
>>333338289
...Bloodborne
>>333338039
Eve has a niche following and you can buy gametime with in-game money.
FFXI requires little upkeep now so as long as 500 people pay their sub fee then it's profitable.
>>333337945
You assume there aren't weeaboo Koreans, those who are fiercely hated by other Koreans but don't care anyway.
>>333338258
17m is not AAA anymore. It was in 2006 or so. Min 50 mil now.
>>333338180
All of them are unlocked if you 'bought' the game.
>>333338258
Hate to make you look like a dipshit, but plenty of AAA games have had much less than that for a budget.
>>333334347
But you need 12million subscriber to be profitable
>>333338189
As long as you have the key you can just download an ISO. You will need OEM disk if it is OEM and vice versa though.
>>333338156
why are you posting a picture of yourself?
>>333334347
>So, what's your excuse for not playing?
MMO's suck? I've played Ragnarok Online, Lineage II, Runescape, WoW, Aion, FlyFF, Trickster, Maplestory, Grand Chase, Elsword, FFXIV, Tree of Savior and recently Blade & Soul.
MMO's suck and arent all that fun. A lot of them are mindlessly repetitive and the only aspect worth its shit is socializing and while its cool making friends across the globe I dont want a boring game attached to it.
>>333338476
OEMs no longer give discs
>>333334347
http://pastebin.com/RbxMtzL8
are classes still gender locked?
>>333338419
That was the initial budget, now the game is three times what it was at launch.
>>333337892
Ever stop and think that FFXIV is actuallygood?
I mean we have threads about it every day on /v/ that reach the 500+ post bump limit.
>>333338476
I know, but that would be a hassle.
I'd rather jerk off and go to sleep.
>>333338395
considering that japan let their soldiers rape foreign women during WW2 I find that very hard to believe
>>333338609
AAA has to work different for MMOs over long periods since they invest more money to make more money.
>>333338581
Medium doesn't matter.
>>333334347
>So, what's your excuse for not playing?
It's categorically, objectively boring. Which is sad because I long for actaully good massively multiplayer experience.
>>333337743
it's hilarious because only faggot frog posters like you will be the ones to drop 100 USD on the cosmetic bullshit like lingerie or maid costumes.
Worst thing to have in the game that's cash-shop exclusive are the ghillie suits and even then it's not a big deal if you have at least one working eye.
If anyone's new to BDO: log in every day and acquire "loyalty points" that you can spend on +50% combat exp scrolls.
BDO has a lot to offer in terms of content, but is any of it good? Combat is mediocre and everything else boils down to doing minigames.
Character customization is piss poor and end game PvP is a joke. $30 for an outfit is outrageous as well.
All this game felt like to me was a waifu simulator.
>>333338663
It's true, and that's why those guys are hated. Education in Korea consists of 1/3 English, 1/3 Grammar, and 1/3 Math for the majority of the students, they give no fucks about history.
>>333334347
i got a 7 day pass from a streamer. really easy most of them have passes. just chill in their stream for a bit and small talk with them. unfortunately the game looks fun but i thought it played like shit. combat was not fun to play.
>>333338529
>MMO's suck
This is a fundamental point. I think we all love the idea of what MMOs could be, but the reality is just complete shit. It usually takes a bad experience or two for people to realize this.
Maybe when 1GB up/down internet is truly ubiquitous, but that's not happening anytime soon outside of South Korea and Estonia. And in South Korea's case, they have other issues as well.
I can't fucking stand the amount of pop in Black Desert has. I have a i7 4790k, GTX 980, 16GB of RAM, and a Samsung EVO SSD and the pop in is still atrocious at low settings.
Makes the game annoying to traverse around and I can't imagine how bad it would be in large scale PVP.
>>333338386
windows port when
>>333338625
Tried it, it's shit. Reason why there are threads here is that their general is so fucking cancerous that they can't have a discussion there, even with an expac worth of information to discuss when the expansion was new.
>>333338765
>only faggot frog posters like you will be the ones to drop 100 USD on the cosmetic bullshit like lingerie or maid costumes.
Um given that I only pirate PC games I really doubt that. I'd sooner just boot up skyrim with some sex mods
>>333337892
Because FFXIV is decent and the people I met on it were really nice.
>>333338529
MMORPG's suck because they have to pad out the game with needless filler because there is no true "end game".
Going into one expecting it not to be repetitive is fucking stupid. The real problem is two things:
1. The combat. Most are rotation sequences. Others like GW2 etc try to tone it done but it's still pretty shallow.
2. The filler aka grinding. It needs to be completely overhauled. Every single MMORPG copies the same shit. Could you imagine if every single anime copied a shonen jump or naruto-esque type filler?
What's the solution? Go play games that have online co-op instead.
>>333339021
>I have a i7 4790k, GTX 980, 16GB of RAM, and a Samsung EVO SSD and the pop in is still atrocious at low settings.
...With that hardware why would you play on low?
>>333339212
The game's not that optimized bro. Just play it yourself and find out why.
>>333339021
Their engine seems to start loading lower LOD models from even 20 feet away, it's painful.
Because Archeage does PvP better and I don't even play it anymore. I'm too burnt out on 10+ years of tab-targeting MMOs to even give a shit
>>333334347
Doing trade runs all day in a wagon is far more fun than it should be.
>>333339212
The pop in happens at low or max settings, I get 60+ FPS either way. The game sucks dick anyways. Tons of pop in, armor looks locked behind a cash shop, top PVP guild basically control everything because they poopsocked and paid for level boosts to get gear/crafting skills faster, and at the end of the day the game is just a huge time sink grind that's not even satisfying.
>>333339501
>I'm too burnt out on 10+ years of tab-targeting MMOs to even give a shit
Good thing BDO isn't one, huh?
>what's your excuse for not playing for not playing another korean grindfest mmo?
because it's just another korean grindfest mmo
>>333336786
As shit as the PvE bosses are, the game is still fun. Its not a hard concept to get.
>>333338625
we used to have constant threads about LoL, too. That doesn't make it good m8.
>>333334347
>So what's your excuse for not playing
It's a stupid grinding game where gear matters more than anything else.
>>333339660
at this point we will need another replacement word for "fun" like we have for desu baka senpai.
>>333339502
What makes it "fun"? I don't get it. There's no real danger there, and you could be just fishing or grinding for way faster profit.
>>333339745
It must be good if it's making millions of dollars
>>333339590
Tab-targeting is the ideal combat system for MMORPGs. There is literally nothing wrong with it.
>>333339843
And thus by this logic, WoW is the best mmorpg of all time and CoD is the best FPS as well.
>>333339843
Do you enjoy the works of Justin Bieber and the Jonas Brothers?
>>333339794
Just because you have a hard time enjoying games, doesn't mean I can't. Game is fun, and has lots of comfy moments at half the price of standard.
>>333339502
How in the world can you spend hours trading and find it fun? You connect nodes then you go in a loop around the world stopping and trade managers along the way. Unless you break into making crates (which is still extremely simple) then literally you are doing is auto running from point to point and talking with a person.
What is entertaining about that?
>>333339808
Taking fish along as well since it doesn't count against my weight limit on my cart.
Have my workers getting me packs to trade for no cost too.
I don't know why I like it. I'm climbing up the top 30 players pretty quickly.
PvP was interesting with a friend, turned into a dodge fest until one of us fucked up too many times. Reminded me of a drawn out Dark Souls fight.
>>333339590
Is it though? I don't know, but Tera showed me that if you strictly focus on the core combat at the expense of variety in either equipment, leveling zones or fun PVE then you still end up with a bland experience, still reflexively clicking buttons in the same order designed for CC or DPS. Maybe I'm just burnt out on videogames
>>333337892
Square knows how to budget their MMOs.
Not only do they survive on about 300-500k estimated subs, but it's so profitable, that it funds other projects.
It also helps that FFXIV is a decent MMO.
>>333339960
>There is literally nothing wrong with it.
>>333340027
>>333339984
Just because a sample size doesn't enjoy them doesn't mean the numbers don't exist. People outside 4chan love the shit out of these things, the world is much bigger than our shit opinions on everything.
>>333340029
"fun" is a buzzword with the only meaning is that (you) enjoy something, its completely subjective and makes absolutely no sense when you use it as an argument like
>"this and this part is shit and this one could have been done better, but its still shit, so overall its shit"
>"b-but its fun!"
>>333340104
Go ahead and make a list of problems with tab-targeting then.
>>333340339
its boring
>>333340404
I disagree.
>>333340304
The whole point of asking for opinion is to hear subjective reply. I'm not hear to rip apart the game to investigate it, I'm telling someone I enjoy it because its fun. Sorry buddy.
>>333339960
It's a pretty good system and a lot more comfortable to play compared to "high speed action" games. CU is working to overhaul the approach with its own spin (body parts with health pools, construct every ability ever, physics, etc): http://camelot.gamepedia.com/Combat
>>333340339
You can't alt-tab
>>333340467
I disagree with your disagreement.
>>333339194
Ive heard bland mmo gameplay is due to the limitations of the internet's infrastructure. Until ping and bandwidth problems are fixed, which may not even be physically possible, the gameplay is forced to account for massive amounts of lag. We will probably never experience true online hitbox calculations and such on a grand scale in our lifetimes.
Just take a look at how online fighting games work, the only way to keep hitboxes and stuff from desyncing is to slow down the actual game for both player's connections to catch up. Now imagine trying that in a 50+ player environment...
>>333340469
its okay, i understand, im sorry too, for being a rude fagget.
>>333337892
Despite FFXIV being dull once you reach the level cap and done all what the endgame has to offer, the game is solid. Runs good on toasters, looks great on beastly PCs, casual enough to get into but savage will bust your balls, and the music is spot on.
>t-t-this time it'll be different!
oh fuck off every MMO has a decently successful launch because all the MMO addicts rush to get a new fix. In 3-4 months when their bored again it'll be dead and then it'll be off to you shitters defending the next f2p koreagrind MMO or p2p casualfest
>no Trial
>$30 for entry into Archeage 2.0
>>333338180
it pay 2 play so you kinda have all the content unlocked like the F2P korean version
>>333334347
Wildstar sold more in its first month.
Also for WW numbers those aren't that great.
But Congrats
>>333334347
>So, what's your excuse for not playing?
I wait for it to go free to play. Won't pay anymore for new mmo's because everytime I do they just announce free to play months later
>Korean
>MMO
>waifus
When will you learn?
Why not play better farming games HM, rune factory and stardew valley if you mmos sub human love fishing and farming so much?
>400
>this is a success for gook
Even Neptunia sold more than this lel
I'll stick with FFXIV because at least I know it's still going to be around and active a few years from now. Enjoy your 4-8~ months before people give up on it in droves
>>333341084
because wealth in these games is slightly less meaningless than wealth in MMOs
>>333335682
>>333336907
>>333337131
The 5mil has nothing to do with gold sellers but does have something to do with China.
In China you don't buy time cards that equal calendar playtime like in NA/EU(30/60 calendar day time cards) instead they only have in game playtime cards.
5USD = 66 in game hours for the Chinese.
So even if you have 0.25USD left of time on your account you are still counted as an "Active" subscriber, So there is countless abandoned accounts that Blizzard uses for their active sub count.
>>333334347
Doesn't really seem that interesting to me, only MMO I'm halfway looking forward to is Pantheon
>>333340640
This is a big problem and part of why I think the MMOs of the future will be focused on populating the world with tons of NPCs and fewer players.
I think the gameplay could improve considerably while still providing the illusion of a densely populated world.
In each player's instance of a given zone, a max of let's say 100 players are connected. It would be next to impossible to tell players apart from NPCs besides watching their behavior.
I'm not playing it because I don't like to support games that offer in-game advantages for real cash, no matter how small.
>>333341283
who give a fuck about wealth in fucking video games? Are you some kind of filthy chink slave?
>boasting 100,000 concurrent users
>In a game that promotes and rewards you for afking all day instead of logging out
Come on now
>>333341583
progression is the only point of an MMO
it's fun to have power over others!
>>333334347
People are buying it because it looks good.
Keyword "looks".
When they realize it's a shallow hunk of shit like all other Korean trash it'll die like it was meant to.
Korean games are only good for whore creators, that's it.
>>333334347
>So, what's your excuse for not playing?
Every cosmetic in the game locked behind a pricey cash shop
Houses locked behind cash shop
korean, so its going to become p2w f2p
>>333341084
This. These shills always praising the farming stuff in this crap but it's barefuckingbone compared to HM or RF
>>333334347
>MMO
Right here.
>>333335636
This.
The game is hollow trash, the only people that are buying in are greasy fags that base their appreciation of the game on how erect their custom waifu gets them.
The game is trash.
>>333338289
Warhammer failed ultimately because of the billing debacle, everyone abandoned it.
>everyone getting billed 7x subs in one month
>literally 10's of thousands of people trying to get refunds
>their refund/customer service is shit, nothign working
>people still getting billed multiple subs for one month, months after it first started happening
>Korean MMO
lol
>tfw farming is shit in this game but you still do it to maintain rank
>>333341197
>mmorpg
>first month
>outside of asia
>>333339194
My problem with modern MMO's is the move away from making them social games and an overemphasis on endgame instead of the journey. Wildstar, Archeage, FFXIV, many others the path to max level was boring and mostly a bunch of solo content. It was different when I played MMO's like EQ2 and Vanguard, you were often required to group up during the levelling process, there were interesting dungeons, it was fun and wasn't just an empty grind.
>>333341691
You don't have power over anyone in an MMO unless you're a mod or there's anytime anywhere PVP so you can just wreck someone for looking at you funny
>>333335324
fucking kill yourself
your fucking cancer is already all over the forum
>>333341691
Sure you are, mike
>>333341724
There's much much wasted potential from Korea. They seem to have some of the absolute best artists, but their animations are exaggerated bullshit and they can't do gameplay to save their lives. It's a trend in films, too - gorgeous, but empty or nonsensical.
>thinking i give a shit about how much money a game is making
i'm not a shareholder, why would i give a fuck. its still an mmo, and a korean one at that.
>>333341871
What are you even trying to say? Shit flopped in it own shithole too
Is there a trial for this? I want to try it, it looks pretty, but i'm second guessing.
>>333342269
the trial is called Russian or Jap versions or getting a 7 day pass from someone who bought the game and has some magically leftover
>>333342269
Everyone who buys the game gets two trial keys that they can share/giveaway. If you know anyone who purchased it, ask them if they still have their keys.
>>333335202
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed. 400,000 copies would be news but 400.0 is nothing. Time to move along.
>>333340856
those are western sales
>>333341867
What's a good thing to farm
>All the Kungfucks and cucks in this thread shilling a half-assed shit where nothing the players does have actual impact, every mechanic is a gimmick, enemies just stand around for you to kill, no significant end-game.
>Even IGN shat on it
>mfw
>>333341292
>66 in game hours for the Chinese.
I wish this was how it worked for sub based games. Fuck losing half of my sub time due to sleep or work
>>333342627
>every mechanic is a gimmick
nigga you stupid
>>333336883
If the game had actual sandbox elements then maybe it's have an argument, but instead it's just a themepark MMO with no PvE content
>>333341974
Yeah man, it's a real shame.
But that's Asians in general.
They have cultures of obsession, which essentially means everything they do will have a small golden age, followed by a catastrophic implosion when all the shitters get involved.
It's like a cycle, look at Japanese games and anime.
>Small bright golden age started by great minds, then the rest of the follower hacks picked up the torch and brought down the entire legacy into autistic shit.
Look at what happened to books after the printing press came out, or the news, it's all the same.
People are shit and anything that gets into the mainstream nosedives. That's not hipster bullshit, that's just societal fact.
>>333342538
Only westcuck buying f2p gook trash kek
>westcuck get fuck in the uterus by gook with 9cm penis
>>333341974
you sound like /tv/ faggot so I'm going to call you a retard
why do certain items in my inventory sparkle?
>>333342880
Why so salty, gook?
>So, what's your excuse for not playing?
All the characters look basically the same unless you $pend more money at the ca$h $hop.
>>333342817
is english your first language
>>333342969
gooks can't into subtlety and nuance
>>333342729
>Doesn't provide a counter-arguement or any evidence supporting otherwise
>Ad hominem
Shill radar is off charts.
>>333334347
I dont like PvP focused MMO and im also not a fan of classes locked to gender. If you like the game have fun but i was not going to pay for an MMO that did not look like i would enjoy.
>>333342969
Her hands have turned into demonic claws
>>333342817
>>333343068
>properly engcuck
>on a weeaboo imgboard owned by a nip after he cuck the westcuck owner
lmao cuck
>>333340072
What packs do you use?
>>333342971
/tv/ is a cancerous shithole and if you use it please kill yourself
>>333343151
I wasn't defending the game I was calling you a retard
>>333334347
I use Satellite internet and already have a shit ton of games to play or...Trying to download games to play.
IS
IT
FUN?
>>333343330
you should ask for the CDs
ahahahah
>>333343515
No
>>333343515
YOU CAN DO ANYTHING!!!