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>In regards to FFVII remake. Looking at the FFXIII saga as a model of release (three full-fledged games). Each game will be the size of a FFXIII game is specifically stated. In other words full scale 30+ hour RPG, and they also say plot wise nothing is off the table in terms of changes. They clarify they aren't changing everything but Kitase, Nomura, and Nojima feel since they were involved with the original game that they have the liberty to add / change what they want while still making fans happy. They also state they want FFVII Remake to gave a much shorter development cycle than FFXV.
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>>333327734
>Square Enix will never revive your favorite series
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>>333327734
Cautiously optimistic. I think Nomura is a pretty good director.
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>plot wise nothing is off the table in terms of changes.
>>333327934
Shit taste
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>>333327734
>and they also say plot wise nothing is off the table in terms of changes.

If they kill off Tifa instead of Aerith I will be pleasantly surprised. I would actually cry and be devastated by her death.
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>>333328117
Plot twist cloud dies then you have to travel back in time play a carnival game to win a body clone of cloud then travel back to the present time and do a switcheroo to regain cloud in the party.
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>>333328117
Would holy still work if Aerith didn't die?
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>>333328117
>yfw anyone can die at that point and it's determined by who you're best friends with
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Working link where?
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>>333328517
I've been trying to find the scans but the only imgur link has been deleted.
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>>333327918
Licking my way to the top!
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Is it going to have the same "hold circle to attack" gameplay as FFXV? If so, then no thanks. I'll stick to replaying the original with it's time tested turn based gameplay.
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>>333327918
Feels good man

FF7R is just old hacks who have no talent left going back to what made them popular. Kitase, Nomura,etc are washed up and pulling a George Lucas.
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>redone dating scenes
>you can try to put the moves on whoever comes
>tifa starts to go for it, but tifa feels guilty over cloud's inconsistent memories and backs off
>yuffie justs gets a quick peck and gets all embarrassed
>cloud ends up getting wasted with barrett and blacked
>Aerith lewdly fucks you in the gondola ride

plz nomura
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>>333328387
Holy would still work. But the lfiestream wouldn't come in for the last minute save at the buzzer.

>you can either save Aeris and doom the planet, or let her die and save the world
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>>333328117
>If they kill off Tifa instead of Aerith I will be pleasantly surprised. I would actually cry and be devastated by her death.
>If they kill off Tifa instead of Aerith
> kill Tifa
commit sudoku, you dirty nigger
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>>333328686
;-;

>>333328939
So basically be happy the series died before it was milked?
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>>333328830
I doubt the platinum demo combat is going to make it into the final game
even episode duscae had more to its combat than that
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I'm fine with this. Milk me, SE. I don't want to wait 10 years like I did with XV.
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>>333329219
I love Tifa faggot, that's why her death would actually have a bigger impact to me.
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>>333327934
>I think Nomura is a pretty good director.

He's never directed anything of value, Kingdom Hearts included.

He's the epitome of "decline of Rome"-tier.
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>>333329374
I love the KH series. Fite me
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>>333329221
But thats objectively wrong.
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>>333329514
I wouldn't know I'm judging from what I've seen in videos
not too interested in FF15
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>>333327918
Fuck Final Fantasy, this is now a Gex thread
get out of the way
ROSEANNE
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>>333329374
KH2 FM
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>>333329635
>Fuck Final Fantasy, this is now a Gex thread
Well, Gex IS a "Square-Enix" title now
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>no source
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>>333327734
>Looking at the FFXIII saga as a model of release

So is it going to be another hallway simulator?

>hey clarify they aren't changing everything but Kitase, Nomura, and Nojima feel since they were involved with the original game that they have the liberty to add / change what they want while still making fans happy.

Well fuck. I knew this would happen but I prayed it wouldn't. They're going to pander to the fans just like they did with that emo DBZ wankfest Advent Children and all those other godawful spinoffs they've been milking FF7 with for the last full decade, and add to the story just like they did to FF10 with those radio dramas. I can't wait for them to remove Cloud's comic relief side or give Aerith a long-winded meaningless death speech, maybe give some more yaoi-bait between Cloud and Sephy while they're at it right? And let's not forget a Gackt cameo while we're at it.
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>>333329857
>So is it going to be another hallway simulator?
Do you just speedread before posting
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>>333329815
>tfw if Square revived Gex they'd hire Gearbox and pump it full of memes
kill me
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>>333329490
Not him but I don't fight girls, sorry.
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It still boggles my mind that there are people who are actually excited for FFXV. Game is gonna be another Spirits Within tier flop for SE given their expectations.
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>>333328998
Hopefully we get at least a juicier highwind scene. I just have to see Tifas tits. Please Nomura, make it happen.
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>>333329842
googling OP's paragraph shows many sources
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>>333330018
>Not him but I don't fight girls, sorry.
Did you pick that line up at recess today
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>>333329857
you're dumb my cuhrayze friend
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>>333330013
>tfw Im Gexfag
I also am the reason why that drawing is on the /v/ ballot fans list.
Feels good man.
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>>333328998
>Cloud fucking anybody
>Cloud even going as far as a kiss with anybody

You know they'll just make that love triangle as ambiguous as possible because that fuels the fan shipping.
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>>333330040
We know nothing about their expectations. The 10 million thing was just Kotaku misinterpreting a hopeful personal goal for cheap clickbait.
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>>333330360
>ambiguous
>he's fucking tifa in all the sequels

cloud is definitely a beta virgin for most of the game but tifa rides his dick before the last dungeon

which is shocking since aeris was trying to do that from the first hour of the game
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>>333330008
Well besides it being a 30+ hour RPG, which we already knew it would be.

>>333330219
It's going to happen bro, they just outright admitted it. Why do you think they won't? Look at the FF7 compilation, look at FF10-2 or the radio dramas, Squeenix couldn't give a lucky green shit about the integrity of their stories and just want to milk them for all their worth by pandering to lowest denominator weeaboos.
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>>333327734
>they also say plot wise nothing is off the table in terms of changes

B L U N D E R
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>>333330360
>Whats the highwind scene
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>>333330360
Nigga cloud and tifa fuck under the High wind the night everyone goes home
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>>333327734

W-will... will she live this time?

Jessie. Not that cum dumpster Ancient.
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>>333329221
The combat is a lot more nuanced than people are giving it credit for. I'll admit at first I thought the same thing, but after coming back to it and experimenting a bit with the airstepping and different attacks with each weapon and whatnot I found it to have a lot more depth than what I'd thought. You can cancel lots of animations and sidesteps and back flips dodge a lot of attacks if you time them (which isn't too hard honestly)

Idk I like it.
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>>333330040
one can only hope it tanks the company also
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>>333328830
turn based combat was never good
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>>333330472
>he's fucking tifa
Nope. Cloud lived with Tifa looking after kids and they slept in separate rooms. They didn't fuck.
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>>333330716
i believe you're mistaking cloud and tifa with your parents
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>>333330640
They'll just lean on their MMOs again if it gets too bad.
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>>333328830
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>>333327734
This game is going to be a massive disappointment. I'm not even looking forward to it anymore.
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>>333330018
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>>333330013
That trashbag of a series deserves to have Gearbox because even back then they were considered meme filled
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>>333330797
I don't know why you can't handle the reality of terrible Japanese writing.
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>>333329857
>release model
>having anything to do with gameplay
how dumb are you, on a scale of dumb to dumb?
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>>333327934

He's a disgustingly bad director.

Things like the original KH were only quality due to a different structure wherein sakaguchi and others could tell him what to do.
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>>333330513
Don't drag XV into this. Besides, Kitase and co. are literally the original creators; nobody can really claim to know FFVII better than they do.
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>>333330501
my fucking sides "bro"
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>>333330230
No Anon, I AM Gexfag
I took this picture just for you
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>>333330942
this meme again
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>>333330716
>Cloud lived with Tifa looking after kids and they slept in separate rooms.
> They didn't fuck
there are people who genuinely believe this
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>>333330942
And now he has Kitase and Nojima telling him what to do. Hopefully they can keep his weirdness in check.
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>>333331020
I'd love to hear why you think I'm wrong.
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I really wished they used a different artstyle for 7.
Looks like the same engine as XV
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>>333330942
>wherein sakaguchi and others could tell him what to do.
>Sakaguchi's highlight in his involvement of kh1 was telling nomura to make the game even crazier
Also
>kh1 fag
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>>333330942
Kingdom Hearts 2 is literally one of the best action RPGS ever made
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>>333327734
Cutting the game into 3 big chunks is better than the alternative of having shortass "Episodes" every few month. Still won't be buying the game until a "complete" version is out, but this is far better than what I expected.
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>>333327734
>Kitase, Nomura, and Nojima feel since they were involved with the original game that they have the liberty to add / change what they want

XV better do good because this sure won't
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>>333331101
Yeah just like they did with Advent Children right? :^)
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>>333331106
Like cell shading?
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>>333331098
see >>333330924
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>>333327734
[citation needed]
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>>333327734
you realise this is being remade due to the instant cash it will generate to help pay for FFXV no way square was going to dump all that cash without some means of recouping costs if it fails
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>Yfw they remove trap Cloud to not offend anyone
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>>333331294
>the instant cash it will generate to help pay for FFXIV

FTFY
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>>333331294
>>333331371
I think you idiots mean FFXVI.
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>Kitase, Nomura, and Nojima feel since they were involved with the original game that they have
the liberty to add / change what they want
>plot wise nothing is off the table in terms of changes
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>>333331371
No that was the FF13 sequels.
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>>333331105
you completely misunderstood their statement and went out of your way to jump to conclusions
you don't even understand the concept of "model of release"

I don't just think you're wrong, you factually ARE wrong by default
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>>333331359
They already said that will still be in
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>>333331029
Alright if it really is you I need to say this: During those ballot threads on /v/ I also posted Gex as my ballot choice without knowing about you, so when people started referring to me as Gexfag, I thought I was the actual Gexfag.
I really did ask to be added to that smash fans list
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>>333330716
they shared the same bedroom
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>>333331410
>>333331454
XIV nearly killed the franchise single-handed. The game still bleeds money.
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>>333331098
>underestimating Japanese autism
They didn't get those demographic problems out of nowhere.
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>>333331538
>The game still bleeds money.
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>>333330924
Nigga, the devs themself said they fucked. What proof do you still need to accept that fact?
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>>333331218
>Like cell shading?
I love cell shaded games, but Im just referring to something that would make it pop out more.
It looks like its in the same universe as XV because of the art direction.
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>>333331538
>The game still bleeds money
>made 9,000,000 in half an hour and still going
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>>333331459
>you completely misunderstood their statement and went out of your way to jump to conclusions

Their statement? Have you seen what they've been doing to FF7's story in the last decade? They just outright admitted that they have the right to change shit and pander to the same retarded weeaboos who thought Advent Children was a good movie.

>you don't even understand the concept of "model of release"

Yeah okay I was wrong about that, I'm sorry. Now I'm still waiting for you to prove me wrong about my other statement.
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>>333327918
It all started so simply. I had just finished my morning routine of nude funkercize, fired up the barcalounger, and prepared to watch some serious tube. But little did I know, my snack was sent by Rez.
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>>333329350
no fuck you. what purpose would there be killing her? Aerith had her connection to the ancients and lifestream for summong holy. Tifa is a supporting friend. There's no reason to kill her off just cause.

idiots have no damn clue how to write a story.
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>>333331670
FF15fags once again prove not only are they terrible at math, but now English aswell.
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>>333331625
>>333331670
You're welcome to find some sort of statistic that proves otherwise.

Pro tip: There aren't any. The closest thing you'll get is XIV being a small part of a larger successful section of Square's mobile/MMO department.
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>>333331098
People just think Cloud's too much of a faggot to fuck Tifa. He literally stays away from home after he found out he had that disease.
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every game Square has made since VII has been an attempt to surpass VII and they've failed every time. XV is their last best chance.
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>>333331754
sorry I can't be bothered to read any of your shit right now

I'll assume it was a bunch of non-sensical shit with a bunch of buzzwords thrown into the lot to make you "fit in" with the epic gamers on /v/

in that case, stop shitposting you memer
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>>333327734
>Episode release

Yea nah go fuck yourself squeenix.
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>>333327734
>Kitase, Nomura, and Nojima feel since they were involved with the original game that they have the liberty to add / change what they want while still making fans happy

So the game is confirmed Advent Children tier garbage then?
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>>333331567
Exactly. From the words of Square themselves

>We decided to go with a more familiar image that was consistent with the fans' view of him.

Source: http://flaregamer.com/b2article.php?p=122&more=1

They outright admitted that it was all fanboy/fangirl pandering.
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>>333331768
To provide shock value. Everyone and their mother knows that Aerith dies in FF7. That would be it though, can't really explain what Aerith would do if she were still alive.
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>>333331891
>XV
>The game that removes the ability to play other characters
>surpassing VII

Ha no. Also XI did a pretty good job of keeping pace with VII.
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>>333331478
wasn't me, I just like Gex enough to have a poster
how it survived since launch baffles me, it's so old below the N64 logo it says "coming soon"
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>>333331106
I'd be down for cellshading graphics but chances are the majority of people that wanted this game were expecting FFXIII/FFXV graphics.
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>>333331823
Well, AC Cloud is a big fat faggot but FF7 Cloud was a pretty cool guy. It's a shame that SE turned him into such a trainwreck
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>>333330013
Dude I love Gex but Gex was always a meme game. Back then we just called them called pop culture references. That's it.

Gee Scoob, let's get back to the Mystery Van.
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>>333331771
>>333331797

>30,000 CE units sold at $270+shipping and foreign exchange rates which estimate $300+
>$300 x 30000 = $90,000,000
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>>333331983
No, it's really my fault for expecting anything besides le ebin shitposting from /v/ kiddies.
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>>333332036
how much did that cost you?
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>>333332089
XIV CE wasn't anywhere near $270.
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>>333332060
Hey they're just doing what the fans want, and in OP's post they said they'll do it again for the remake.
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>>333331797
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>>333332206
c-cute!
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>>333332089
You really are a fucking dumb kid. He is talking about FF14.

Also the fact that you think SE gets more than a fraction of that money from the FF15 CEs shows once again how fucking dumb you are.
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>>333332142
says the retard who uses the word weeaboo without knowing what it means
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>>333331538
>the game nearly killed the series

True

>it still bleeds money

Absolutely false, they make money hand over fist on their cash shop.
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>>333332210
hes taling about XV "ultimate collectors edition"

If it didnt have that fuckking retarded noctis figure that jacked the price up I'd be inclined to get it

Or even if they replaced it with a statue instead of fucking play arts
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>>333332286
wat. where did it say something like this?
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>>333331538
>The game still bleeds money.

What? XIV is extremely successful to this day.
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>>333330687
Turn based combat does have the advantage of giving you full control of your entire party's actions on the battlefield, and making sure you can always monitor everything that is going on.
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I would so much rather have a FF8 remake, too bad everyone hates it :(
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>>333327734
>Looking at the FFXIII saga as a model of release
>full scale 30+ hour RPG
>plot wise nothing is off the table in terms of changes
>they want FFVII Remake to gave a much shorter development cycle than FFXV
Its like the ff7 remake is some sort of magical game that gets worse with every new piece of news delivered
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>>333327734
>Looking at the FFXIII saga as a model of release
>plot wise nothing is off the table in terms of changes

This is going to be mindblowingly bad. They're going to completely rape one of the most beloved titles they ever made by making it comparable to one of the most hated titles they ever made and piss so many people off.
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>>333327734
I would be fine with them making plot changes. It would be nice to have something similar but different. You know, for a new experience.

If I wanted to replay FF7, I would replay FF7.

Not sure how I feel about it being a 3 parter though.
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For years people have said a FF 7 Remake would be shit. It would be made to be like Advent Children. It would change the story to suit the horrible Compilation. It would be action gameplay. It would censor things.

And to the surprise of nobody, it's all coming true. But hey, we didn't see Episodic coming, SE went one step further to prove this game will be shit.
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>>333332404
For Advent Children:

http://flaregamer.com/b2article.php?p=122&more=1

For the remake:

>they also say plot wise nothing is off the table in terms of changes.
>They clarify they aren't changing everything but Kitase, Nomura, and Nojima feel since they were involved with the original game that they have the liberty to add / change what they want while still making fans happy.
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>>333332301
Their MMO department includes more than one game.

Hint: Dragon Quest is insanely popular.

>>333332360
>>333332413
No, it isn't. See the above chart as an example. There's no information at all about how much money the game makes or how many subscribers it has or retains, meaning it's bleeding money. You've been lied to and XIV fags have been parroting this bullshit since day 1.
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I want the "remake" meme to die.
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>its a "game about a tv watching lizard within a thread about a game with a femboy with an impractical sword" thread
I dont get it
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>>333332542

>>333332542

>they're secretly trying to show people that remakes should not be what people want

BASED SE
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>>333332490
now THAT game actually needs a remake that fixes both the story and the gameplay
it had potential
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>>333332206
11 bucks, half of that being shipping
Feels fucking amazing man
Pardon my tongue darling
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I never played the original, I cant wait to see what all this hype is about
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>>333332590
Their MMO department doubled when ARR released a year after DQX had been out.
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>>333332490
It's my favorite FF, but it really has some flaws
But then again if FF would've been the first 3d FF it would probably have the same status as FF7 has today
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>>333327734
How will it have a shorter dev cycle if its 30 hours long
Its the half life episodes all over again
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>>333332721

FF7 was the original meme game. FF8 is vastly superior in every way.
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>>333332691
I want to find one now
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>>333331240
Are you fucking illiterate?
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>>333329221
>I doubt the platinum demo combat is going to make it into the final game
It's not like they can make major overhauls in just 6 months when they need to focus on optimization, patches notwithstanding. IMO it's not even that bad, input lag and button holding aside. It's just really barebones because the iron giant is a large, slow moving target, it's the only thing there is to fight, not having party members alone removes a lot of options and the weapons you get are pretty basic aside from the shield's perfect blocking and the Broadsword getting the Tempest move from the demo added into it's moveset.
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>>333332490
I'd buy a FF8 remake if it got rid of level scaling.

>>333332773
>But then again if FF would've been the first 3d FF it would probably have the same status as FF7 has today

Hardly. FF10 was the fourth 3D FF and it's arguably more popular than FF7 especially in Japan.
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>>333332804
In every way except characters, pacing, and gameplay, yeah.
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>>333332787
it means they'll be using all the tools that they had to create for 15 to do the work for the 7 remake.
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>>333332806
good luck with that
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>>333332804
I can't tell if this is a serious post or not
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>>333330687
>implying chrono trigger didn't have good combat
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>>333332804
>the most stupidly broken pile of shit in the series since FF2
>better in every way

Good joke 8fag.
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I knew it would be a disaster when they said Nomura was somewhat in charge.
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>>333332748
And that could easily be due to XI or DQX or any of their other MMORPGs. They have several. You'll never find specific statistics about XIV because the game is a total multi-million dollar failure.
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>>333332953
>FF10 was the fourth 3D FF and it's arguably more popular than FF7
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>>333332804
SPOONY BARD
Have a (you) and fuck off, faggot underage
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>>333332542
>Its like the ff7 remake is some sort of magical game that gets worse with every new piece of news delivered

It really is something. It's like watching someone very gradually and intentionally destroy a brand new $500,000 sports car, piece by piece.
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>>333333097
In Japan it is.
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tfw I wouldnt mind compilation stuff having nods or small things like npc text/easter eggs in the remake, maybe a boss or that admittedly retarded bahamut sin from ac as a summon
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>>333332968
I found some Gex 3 posters.
That's a start, right?
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It will never live up to the hype anyone
Not because FF7 was so good, but because it's overrated and babbies first FF
I'm not saying it's bad, because it's a good game, but people act like it's the most perfect game ever created
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>>333333078
>You'll never find specific statistics about XIV because the game is a total multi-million dollar failure

so uh, where's your specific statistic showing that it's a failure? Your argument goes two ways.
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>>333333078
>And that could easily be due to XI or DQX or any of their other MMORPGs.

Yea, cause doubling their MMO revenue the year ARR launched is just coincidence.
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>>333332953
Mechanically speaking FF10 is my favorite of the series. I love the rock, paper, scissors turn based combat.

FFVII and IX are my tops for story, setting, characters.

FFVIII is definitely up there though. Few tweaks and it'd be in my top 3 easily.

Anecdotes to say, basically, that I more or less fit with what you're saying. Except I do not want a remake of any of it anymore. SE is dead to me. I'm tired of the monkey paw bullshit with FFVIIR.

I'm just disillusioned with it all, man. Shit sucks.
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>>333333078
>everyone went and spent tons of money on DQX and XI right when ARR came out guys I swear

The much simpler conclusion to come to is that ARR didn't bomb
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just checking

>>333333333
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>>333333097
FFX is the most popular in Japan you stupid fuck.
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>>333332542
Anyone with half a brain has been trying to warn the braindead fans for years why an FFVII remake is a terrible idea that should never happen, but no one listened.
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>>333333263
That shit happens with a lot of games, including from the same series.

Anyway now that FF7 is cool to hate a lot of the glowing praise has eroded over the years.
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>>333333204
>>333333527
japan isnt important they prefer dragon quest
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>>333333262
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GEX-THE-GECKO-BD-A-LIMITED-SONY-PROMO-BEAN-1999-PLUSH-GEX-3-DEEP-COVER-GECKO-TOY-/252342647836?hash=item3ac0cb3c1c:g:kn0AAOSwQgpXAY9i
>tfw not rich
please kill me
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Considering all the compilation shit that got added after FFVII, I honestly don't have high hopes for it. Knowing them, they'll likely keep Cloud the same emo twat he was in Advent Children.
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>>333333490
dumb new poster

>>333333334
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>>333333276
No it doesn't. There's something called the burden of proof.

Example: If you want to say your game is successful you need to prove it. The fact that square releases no specific information about the game's subs or retention rate or anything at all basically means it's a huge flop.

>>333333415
>Yea, cause doubling their MMO revenue the year ARR launched is just coincidence.

Could be. If you look at the chart their revenue didn't double from ARR alone. XI and DQX are both included. So again, you'll never find anything that shows ARR's performance alone. It's always lumped in with the MMO department. Basically Final Fantasy taking credit for everything Dragon Quest does. Business as usual.
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>>333332721
just go play the original
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>>333333613
Everyone with taste prefers Dragon Quest.
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>>333333790
its incredibly mediocre and I don't know why its so popular
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>>333333626
>tfw I could by it
>tfw taking a girl out to her prom
>tfw cant buy my childhood hero because I need to save my fundings
I'll but it eventually
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What will be the last boss of part 1 ?
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>>333333885
That was a really fast response
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>>333332721
>I never played the original, I cant wait to play a remake that shits all over it
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>>333333984
was it?
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>>333333885
Same could be said for Final Fantasy, except we already know why it's popular.

Hint: it's not the gameplay.
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>>333333885
Because you are conflating mediocrity with "I didn't care for it."

This is a common malady that afflicts the young and/or uneducated. Aging may fix it.
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>>333334053
you seem frustrated whats wrong?
>>333334035
DQ also has pretty meh combat
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>>333333978
I'm betting jenova will be the ending of each chapter, except the last one of course
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>>333327734

>Pushing XV harder than ever with ARPG garbage and trying to make it the next VII
>remodel VII into some amalgamation of their current ARPGs anyway

fuck square
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>>333334150
>you seem frustrated whats wrong?
That looks like frustration to you?

Ebic troll friend. Well meme'd. Ya gottem.
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>>333329857
>FFXIII saga
>hallway simulator
You're beyond stupid. XIII-2 and LR are one of the least linear FF games.
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>>333333978

Jenova Afterlife
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>>333334297
I'm sorry if I've done anything to offend you
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>>333332542

>that anon who makes those ''REMINDER NOT TO JUDGE FFVII YET, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR GUYS? <3'' threads
>all those KH plebians shitting on your opinions for disliking the direction it's taking
>this news

you cant make this shit up
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>>333334483
whats wrong?
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>>333334272

>muh turn based combat

Fuck off grandpa. Nobody wants that no skill borefest anymore.
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>>333334272
>I want to play the same game I've been playing for the last 20 years
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>>333333457
I've been disillusioned with it all for years now. Fuck the compilation and anyone who defends that fanwanking garbage.
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>>333333761
>There's something called the burden of proof.

dude, this is a fucking anonymous imageboard not a god damn courtroom.

But you know what, other people have already said that even lumped with square's other mmos, sales spiked specifically during the year of FFXIV's release. There's no way of knowing the exact number, sure, but it's incredibly unlikely a spike like that is A) a coincidence and B) something you'd consider a "failure".

>Basically Final Fantasy taking credit for everything Dragon Quest does
At this point you're shitposting just to shitpost.
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>>333327934
>Partly responsible for the mess that the FFVII compilation became
>Directly responsible for Kingdom Hearts series' fucking ridiculous direction
And I'm saying this as someone who's a huge fan of KH.

Nomura is not a good director.
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>in the original the date scene's stats were retarded as fuck
>Getting Aeris's points up meant you had to shit on Tifa each time
>Trying to Tifa is easy
>Shitting on Aeris even a few times gets you Barret

How baised towards Aeris will they be this time
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>>333334652
If anyone's to blame for the compilation it's Kitase and Nojima. Nomura had nothing to do with it besides the battle cinematography and some character designs. Nojima has been at it again with everyone's favorite radio dramas too.
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>>333332581

this. fuck all these DOOWAL WIELD faggots trying to support this bullshit.

you got XV for your ADHD ridden combat simulator, that could be fun enough given its doing its own thing, but why the fuck did they have to inject all of this shit into a remake.

>people claiming that a pure remake, the original with some materia balancing, translation fixing and HD graphics as shown isn't what they'd want

then you dont WANT the fucking remake, you want to play cloud strife in DMC
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>>333334670
The original game was biased towards Aeris too, what are you talking about? Aeris started off with 50 points while Tifa only 30.
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>>333334843
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>>333334637
>not a god damn courtroom.

We're talking about logic here, not law. You can't disprove something that hasn't been proven. If square can't provide any solid evidence that XIV is successful then I can only assume it's a massive flop. It's simple reasoning.

Combine that with the fact that box sales prices dropped about $50 within the first few months, the dead servers and even loyal players bitching about a total lack of "content" it's only reasonable to believe that it's bleeding money. Combine that again with the fact that XIV 1.0 damaged the franchise beyond repair and the amount of dosh they needed to spend to reboot the game and you have a real ToRtanic situation.

How anyone could believe XIV is a success is beyond imagining.
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>>333335028
I know, I'm basically asking how much worse it will be
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Are you guys going to get both the Vincent and Yuffie DLCs?
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>>333335128
It would more than likely be the only part of the remake that will be kept the same as the original game.
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>Nobody will have Aerith in their parties because of what happens
>They change that and Cloud dies instead. Rest of the game is Aerith and Tifa yuri story taking down Seph.
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>>333328939
>>333329635
>>333331762
Any of you anons could make the next Gex if you had a good enough pitch for Square Enix Collective. They put the IP up for free use so long as you go through that site prior to your crowdfunding campaign
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>>333335515
>FF7 "fans" are so dumb they think Aeris dies for no reason and the story could work with her living
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>>333333761
>You need to prove your game is successful

That runs with the assumption that every game is a failure by norm you tortanic loving faggot.

Occam's razor, it's far less likely that they would keep an MMO, which they had previously shut down due to being shit, running if it was a failure so one can easily assume it's a success.

Thus the burden of proof is on you, you blubbering retard.
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>>333332581
It's not even the action gameplay that bothers me. FF7's gameplay was never anything special anyway and I understand they have to change it for mainstream appeal.

But you are spot on about the story changes. All that change to Cloud's character in AC, all that retconning in CC, all the "fans" loved that shit even though it blatantly contradicted everything in the original game. Square has also been fucking up FF10's story with 10-2 and those radio dramas everyone hates, yet people are still asking for more.

At least people are finally getting sick of Square's bullshit with they announced the remake would be sold episodically.
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The only thing I'm really worried about is them shoehorning Genesis into the plot.

The way they shoved him in iconic FF7 scenes in Crisis Core was downright offensive.
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>>333335690
They shut it down because it was basically an alpha version of the game. Shows how much you know, though.
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>>333335669

>implying they wont change that

Nothing off the table :^)
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>>333335810
>1.0
>Alpha
>literally had better looking assets than 2.0

They shut it down because it was shit and no one played it. Shows how much you know.
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>>333335048
the absolute madman
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>>333335728
Crisis Core still would have been a steaming turd even without him though.
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>>333335728
POOR LITTLE SEPHIROTH
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>>333335728

Everything in CC was bad.
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Is no one else worried about some sort of stupid forced Cameo of either Lightning or Noctis?
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>>333336008
not this meme again
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>>333335915
Do you know why they looked better?

Pro Tip: There's a correct answer to this.


>>333335880
Nomura was on record about the staff knowing exactly what they wanted to do with the reboot when they announced the game. I'm fairly certain they're just blowing smoke up your ass at this point.
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>>333335728
They'll shoehorn Lightning instead.
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>creators say they'll make changes to the game if they feel like they should
>/v/ cries murder
>months ago a gameplay trailer was released that was nearly a line-for-line exact remake of the first scenes of the game

i'm not sure why you're concerned. they're definitely gonna make ff7 even more weeaboo than before but that's their style with modern games. everything they've shown so far looks fine.
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>>333327734
>they also say plot wise nothing is off the table in terms of changes. They clarify they aren't changing everything but Kitase, Nomura, and Nojima feel since they were involved with the original game that they have the liberty to add / change what they want while still making fans happy

Any change will make people unhappy. Can't wait to shit myself in rage over them adding that red coat fag from Crisis Core.
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>>333336009

It was already confirmed everyone in FF15 dies half way though and Lightning is the new MC. Toriyama is very happy.
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>>333327918
You need to end yourself if Gex is your favorite franchise
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>>333336089
>weeaboo
stop using words that you don't understand
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>>333335938
>>333336008
Oh I know, it's just that having him pop up in the FF7 scenes made it so much worse. Like pissing on a dead body.

I hope Genesis never comes back again. I hope Zack's death isn't some big last stand against 100000 soldiers. I hope summons don't look like overdesigned garbage.
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>>333336042
Meme?
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>>333336057
I'm still waiting for you to tell me why it's more logical they would keep making content for a failure that bleeds money when they literally have a precedent of shutting down a failure that bleeds money.
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Final Fantasy VII is wacky:

Man, what I want is FF to become lulz like it used to be. I admit, FF7 was my first RPG; but, the reason I liked it was that it was lulzy. Cloud wasn't emo, he was just retarded and forgot stuff. He did squats, tried to buy a guy porn but ended up getting a vitamin supplement kit and received a diamond tiara for it, rode a motherfucking DOLPHIN, got in a small tub with tons of burly men, walked in on a guy using the bathroom, wore a thong, went on a roller coaster game when the world was about to end, played video games in an arcade, stole Tifa's orthopedic underwear in the flashback, screwed up a parade while, bought a Villa for lulz, commandeered a submarine, and other shit. It was that stuff that made me love FF7. Stuff like the bitch slapping mini game, riding a space shuttle, riding chocobos, and the FOREVER STAIRCASE were the great stuff. Now FF is shit.
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>>333336089
They'll make changes to the story and characters to "make fans happy" like they did with Advent Children.
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>>333336128
Toriyama actually did say he wants Lightning to make an appearance in future games. As much as you liked making that joke, it may be truer than you think.
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>>333336304
>lulz

leave
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>>333336304
>lulz

Am I back in 2009?
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>>333336341
he isnt directing this so its probably not going to happen
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>>333336421
Thank fucking god then
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>>333336304

>wore a thong

He what?
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>>333336009
Eh, as long as the cameo was well done and not played off like it was SUPER IMPORTANT THIS TOTALLY MATTERS GO BUY FFXIII/FFXV then I guess it wouldn't be too bad.
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YES THIS POST IS LIFE AF
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>>333336236
Okay so you don't know. The "assets" had roughly 5 times the number of polygons than player characters had. It's why loading took so long and why the game would only run on a PC instead of PC and PS3, which it was supposed to do.

They failed to make a game that could run on the PS3. That's why it was an alpha version of the game. It didn't run on the PS3 because most of the staff sat in their office reading manga instead of working on the game, most notably the head producer.

It's logical for them to keep their multi-million dollar failure breathing because it allows them to at least pretend that they are capable of making successful big budget games. Once XV is released they're going to stop pushing content into the game and it's going to die. It's already happening.
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>>333333333
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>>333336630
fucking newcunts
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>>333333978

that thing on the highway just before leaving midgar
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>>333336152
FUCKING FINALLY.
Holy shit I was waiting here while having a wonderful discussion about Gex with another fan, and FINALLY I get a negative response.
Not only that, but it happens to be a half assed shit post.
NOTHING about the gameplay.
NOTHING about the voice-acting.
NOTHING about the level design.
NOTHING about being a dead series.
And that is ALL you can come up with?
Sonyggers are the fucking worst.
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>>333336778
No way. I get that they might make the Midgar part of FF7 a lot bigger but there's way too much in the story to fit into the other 2 games.
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>>333327734

the only thing good about the entire remake is that italian character designer
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>>333336806
What makes you think he's a Sony Brony?
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the most disappointing thing about it being split into 3 is that we won't get to travel the world in an airship
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>>333336952
I still can't get over his name though. "Roberto Ferrari" sounds like something Homer Simpson would make up.
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>>333336928

Did they say it's strictly 3 games, or were they just using XIII's trilogy as an example of game length?
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>FFXV, FFVIIRE, and KH3 all use the same engine

Is this good or bad
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>>333337051
You know the original was split into three sections, right?
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>>333337062
Well I'm going by OPs post.
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http://strawpoll.me/7292106
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>>333337238
I'm in between. I think they're going to mess up parts of it but I'm not going to be super pissed off about it. I'll just treat it like something new.

The only way they can really annoy me is if they MAJORLY change the plot. That and if they add any ridiculously shit character like Genesis.
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