>Console fags will never be able to crash pluto into earth
>no soft body collision modelling
fucking dropped.
Neat.
Wut game?
>>333314683
>game
Typical consoletard
>>333314683
Universe sandbox 2
>Kids these days grow up in a world where Pluto isn't a planet just so some Scientist can get a paycheck.
>>333314404
sounds like a very niche appeal.
Ya I'm too busy crashing my dick into ur mom
>>333314858
>oh no science is more accurate about something than it was 20 years ago
>kids these days are gonna be fucked!
fuck off old man
What about a gas planet?
>>333314874
>Implying you don't want to watch the oceans of the earth dry up as the planet slowly burns
>>333314858
Pluto isnt even SPHERICAL, its not a planet you dumb nostalgia tripping ape
>>333315025
>Literally no reason to make the change save for some asshole to put his name in the book
>You are perfectly, PERFECTLY fine with this
>>333314858
>you lived to see space exploration fall out of the limelight in post 9/11 America
>you lived too see Pluto downgraded to a dwarf planet
What the fuck happened to wondering what was out there? Why did we stop caring?
>>333314404
Jupiter, please.
>>333314769
There's a 2!?
>>333315263
MUH REFUGEES
Can't wait to play this in VR
>>333315357
Yeah one is pretty bad but two is d a n k £20 on steam
>>333315213
>Wah screw proper classifications PLUTO BEING A PLANET MADE MY CHILDHOOD!
>>333315456
>refugees are the reason Pluto isn't a planet anymore.
My God, it all makes sense now!
>>333315213
>people discover a shit ton of things that fit the old definition of planet
>wahhh change is hard, I don't like it
>>333314570
Thats something they are working on, currently works okay on a smaller scale
>>333315263
When we realized there is nothing out there but empty rocks and ice and that there was literally no return in investing in exploring it. Even if we shit up the tech and money to build an off world space station, we wouldn't find any elements out there that we can't get right here on earth
Also, FTL travel is impossible Star Trek will never be a reality. Even if there are Aliens out there, the impossibility of FTL travel ensures they will never visit us in a meaningful way
>>333315213
>no reason to make the change
you realize there is a defenition as to what a planet is and is not right?
Pluto isn't a planet. Why should scientific texts be inaccurate if the very basis of science is to be as accurate as possible?
>>333315263
Political correctness and hatred of the White race was more important.
>>333315263
>tfw too early for faster space projects and research
Lunar X is too slow
>>333315213
We discovered more objects that fit the definition of "planet" way closer than Pluto.
Either remove Pluto, or start teaching kids about all 900,000 planets in our solar system.
>>333315614
>>333315525
hello muhammed
>>333315469
>30 dollary doos
I think I'll pass for now so that I can get it for 50c years from now, crash planets for 10 minutes then never touch it againOr just pirate it.
>>333315735
allah be praised, my good neighbor!
Lovely weather we're having!
>>333314404
more webums of crashing planets into planets
>>333315213
>Literally no reason to make the change
It was either create an actual definition for the word "planet" or end up with like 15 planets.
Because before 2006 the definition of a planet was basically "sphere that orbits a star" when there was a pretty clear distinction between the current eight planets and things like Pluto or Eris (which are not gravitationally dominant in their orbits, while planets are).
I'm sorry redefining a word triggers you.
>>333315995
Yes sir, pointless revisionism for personal fame does indeed triger me
Wouldn't there be a far more devastating effect if a body the size of Pluto hit the Earth? Like, Earth blowing into multiple pieces?
>>333315569
>FTL
Implying that's the only way.
>>333315569
I know, but it still hurt seeing it slowly die off. Athe least there's still the privatized industry.
>>333315569
FTL travel has already been accomplished on a small particle scale. Hardly impossible.
>>333315263
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbIZU8cQWXc
Basically we were only interested in space travel because we wanted to beat the Russians. We don't have any rivals now so less people care about space travel.
The closest we'll get is private companies doing shit since NASA is horribly underfunded.
>>333315316
Isn't Jupiter a gaseous body? We don't even know for certain if it has a solid core.
>>333316140
>mfw a bunch of rich people will get to live on Mars while the rest of us choke to death on a poisoned Earth
T-Thanks Elon!
>>333316094
>pointless revisionism for personal fame
Yes, its purely so that we would remember the names of those who changed it and not because if Pluto was a planet then there would be at least a dozen planets in the solar system since they're all just as big, if not bigger than pluto and trapped in the gravity well. Now if you would be so kind as to tell me the names of the scientists who changed it so that I can remember them.
>>333316094
So what would you propose, have any piece of shit ice shard in the Kuiper belt be taught in schools as being a planet?
>>333316105
Is Pluto even heavy enough to do that though?
>>333316094
>pointless
>for personal fame
>>333316209
no it hasnt, fuck off
>>333315213
Why do you care what it's called? It doesn't affect you in any way whatsoever.
>>333316105
Go into your garden and throw a rock at another rock, then come back and let us know if they exploded.
>>333316094
>Explain that it's not pointless
>Hurr it's pointless because I say so
You are just looking for a reason to be angry
>>333316354
>>333316359
Sorry. I'm a fucking cuck and don't know any better
>>333316209
Literally impossible.
>>333316094
Why do you keep insisting it's for "personal fame"? Could you name off the top of your head who is responsible for changing the classification? And why would changing the classification be something noteworthy for a scientist to brag about?
>>333316351
Hey, they'll need goons to build that shit on the planet. If we're lucky we'll be able to get on the projects as workers.
>>333316359
Thats dumb
>>333316430
It effects the world my children go into
>>333316468
Yeah well fuck you
>>333315569
>nothing out there but empty rocks and ice
>no return in investing in exploring it
>we wouldn't find any elements out there that we can't get right here on earth
It's a fucking goldmine out there bro, haul back a rock the size of small city made of platinum. Besides we have to go out into space some time, there's only so much shit we can dig out of the earth to use before killing ourselves over it.
>>333316105
Pluto's pretty tiny. Earth would get fucked up by Pluto hitting it, but it wouldn't explode.
>>333316457
Because earth is just solid rock, right???
>>333315569
>there was literally no return in investing in exploring it
Small minded shit.
>>333314404
>at a smooth 60fps
>>333316673
>THINK OF THE CHILDREN
How does Pluto not being a planet affects the children?
>>333316209
Retard detected
>>333316673
It's really difficult for me to talk to someone who is so incredibly below me intellectually.
>>333316702
Everything comes to an end bro. Eventually we're going to run out of resources and die. hell eventually the sun is going to explode. No amount of wasted resource exploring space is going to change this
>>333316351
Haha no, astronauts and robots will get things up and running, then the poors will get shipped out to do the rest.
Only when things are first world tier the rich will show up.
>>333316634
Then they shoot your ass back to Earth.
>>333316770
No, it's not. But it's not full of fucking C4 either. You need to stop getting your knowledge of science from michael bay films.
The sun is no longer a star. From now on the Sun is classified as a Shamalamadingdong.
CAN I BE IN SCIENCE TEXTBOOKS NOW?
>>333316457
That's not the same thing or even a direct simulation of the amount of force. I'm guessing physics wasn't your strong point in high school.
>>333316369
Weight isn't the only factor here. Density and acceleration are also components.
>>333315608
>WE NEEDED AN ARBITRARY DEFINITION!!!!
Why? What difference does it make, shit-for-brains? How does it make ANY difference? Our range, implementation, and purpose of taxonomic definitions is inherently flawed -- forcing this shit down peoples' throats was one of the stupidest things ever done in astronomy.
>>333316867
We have plenty of time before the Sun is a red giant to figure out how2space.
>>333315263
The real reason is because we're kind of at a point in technology and science where we know how unreasonable space travel is at this time.
Basically our space travel technology is at relatively the same place Inuits and Vikings were at with sea travel hundreds of years ago. With the most expensive technology we could maybe send a colony to Mars, but it would take months to get there, survival is not guaranteed and you're not coming back so the kinds of people we can send are limited, it's just not worth doing until we can get some stuff actually built there BEFORE we send people.
At this time, we're starting to finally see how all of our problems could be solved with robotics, medical science, nuclear fusion, and genetic engineering, but we have yet to actually get to the point where any of that stuff is cost-effective or feasible enough to have widely spread.
My theory is that in 1000+ years time, people will look back and consider 2016 part of the same era as 1916, just a time where scientists were starting to have the right ideas but the technology wasn't there yet.
>>333316867
Man, this outlook on life is so pathetic.
Why do you even bother getting out of bed in the morning? Your life is eventually gonna come to an end bro.
>>333316924
Nah man it'd be too expensive to do that, once I'm there they're stuck with me. Shit I'll be their fucking butler too.
>>333314858
>>333315213
am I reading rick and morty?
>>333316975
Sure
Start with making a definition of "Shamalamadingdong" and how it differentiates from the stars based on available data
>>333316975
>>333317029
It scares me a little seeing how the stupid and poor live.
>>333315569
>Also, FTL travel is impossible Star Trek will never be a reality. Even if there are Aliens out there, the impossibility of FTL travel ensures they will never visit us in a meaningful way
Google "Nasa researches Warp Drive"
>>333316369
Weight is pretty much irrelevant in this discussion. Weight is variable from place to place since weight is the effect gravity exerts on mass. Mass, density, and acceleration are the question here.
>>333315569
Little known fact: the most valuable rock on planet earth is from the moon. Some guy could easily set up a moon mine, sell moon rocks to stupid idiots because "holy shit its a rock... FROM THE MOON" and make millions. I feel like space travel would be very profitable.
![Kuipers_revised7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/G7FwuMy.jpg "Kuipers_revised7[1].jpg")
>Only one of these is a planet
>Why?
>Because I like it that way
>>333317038
Theres nothing to figure out Anon.
>>333317049
Desperately clinging to the idea that you are the one thing in the entire cosmos that will never die seems pretty pathetic to me. Are you so crippled by the fear of death that you think there is no reason to live if you're going to die?
>>333317196
NASA has made NO steps towards making any sort of "warp drive".
>>333316975
Sure.
Submit your paper with the proper explanation to the international astronomy society.
Or are you one of those idiots who think that black science man was the only person who decided to change the definition?
>>333317192
>celestial bodies are studied differently depending on what we call them!
>no-longer referring to Pluto as a "planet" has allowed us to finally study the dwarf planetoid with the appropriate tools and measure it with the appropriate physics equations!
Are you 100% retarded or just 50% retarded and 50% pretending?
Besides letting Neil Degrass Tyson wag his dick around, what fucking difference did it make?
>>333317196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94ed4v_T6YM
Watch the video and don't make a fool out of yourself. There are tons of issues related to Alcubierre drive, if it's even possible
>>333317292
Earth has tons of moon rocks, bro.
Martian rocks, however... we only got a couple that were send our way from a meteor hitting Mars, blasting us with a handful of pebbles.
cool but, where is the game that lets you simulate a giant qt eating earth
>>333317196
Are you talking about that EM Drive? That's interesting because it (possibly) provides (extremely small amounts) of forward thrust without using a propellant, which violates the law of conservation of momentum. Pending review.
It doesn't say anything about FTL travel. As far as we know FTL requires stupid bullshit like negative mass.
>>333317292
If somebody did that then the moon rock would become far less valuable since now it's rarity on Earth would decrease. He would be destroying his own market. That's not how economics work.
>>333316867
Hence the need for exploration, whether we live on other planets or just giant metal tubes floating around we can't stay on Earth forever, and it's fucking possible.
You might be content with the human race becoming another undocumented species that's come and gone in the hundreds of millions of years life has existed, but I'd rather we live on... no matter how shitty and violent we are.
>>333317467
Why are you so angry at smart people? Does it scare you when things change that are beyond your comprehension?
People like you are why the Dark Ages happened.
>>333317592
She's not cute
>>333317597
Unless we discover some kind of ancient jew magic I can't imagine FTL travel to be possible. Wouldn't you need to have no mass to even achieve the speed of light?
>>333317641
So heroic, but FTL travel is impossible. The closest thing you're going to get is launch a fuck huge colony ship into the stars with no way of having enough supplies to sustain itself thus ending in only hell-tier horrific shit
Star Trek is pure fantasy anon, the universe just doesn't work that way. All we have and all we will ever have is Earth and we're already half way through ruining that world.
>>333317467
Solve this problem for me without making Pluto a dwarf planet:
We discovered almost ten objects that are much smaller than any other planet besides Pluto, and do not behave like any other planet besides Pluto. What do you call these?
If they are not planets, neither is Pluto. If Pluto is a planet, then they are all also planets.
Either way your precious childhood memories change. Unless your answer to the problem is "just pretend you don't see them".
>>333316313
>We don't even know for certain if it has a solid core.
Does it kind of have to have a solid core in order for it to hold together? There has to be something extremely heavy and dense creating that gravitational field, right?
>>333317731
The Dark Ages happened because of how little information we have on that time period. Not because people just got up and decided that science is bad.
>>333318021
Count them as planets, only teach kids about the 8 actual planets, make the additional planets something college kids have to learn
Done.
>>333317731
I don't care for manipulative shitheads that go around using such bullshit to influence the dumb and impressionable, such as yourself.
>People that question oligarchic authority is how the Dark Ages happened!
Quite the opposite, you fucking idiot. It was shitbags buying in wholesale when someone told them "FUCKING BELIEVE WHAT I SAY, DON'T QUESTION THIS SHIT. I'M IN FUCKING CHARGE HERE. IF YOU DISAGREE, IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE WRONG!!!! DON'T DARE QUESTION MY DECISIONS OR AUTHORITY!"
Just. Like. You.
Stupid faggot.
There was no scientific advantage gained by what they did. It was 100% circlejerking with automic authority.
>>333318096
>>333317923
clearly we just upload our brains to computers, and fly around for fun. doesn't matter if a trip takes 20,000 years if you live forever
>>333317923
Fuck you nigga.
Higara exists
>>333318039
Dense gas / dust can itself be gravitationally strong enough to hold it together.
The sun doesn't have a solid core eh? Not to say the sun is gas / dust, but it started that way.
>>333316953
>But it's not full of fucking C4 either
The core of the Earth is far hotter and releases far more energy than plastic explosives. It is also magnitudes denser.
>>333317313
More like...
>none of these are planets
>why not?
>because I said so
>>333318096
That's literally what we did.
We teach the kids about the eight planets.
We teach college kids about the dwarf planets.
You kinda petered out at the end here, didn't you?
>>333317923
More realistic however, is staying near Sol and its energy, in the form of upload consciousnesses hosted on computers orbiting the sun. Google Matrioshka brain for some reading. That would keep us going until the sun collapses, which will take a lot longer than until the Earth goes.
>>333318021
Solve this problem for me
We discovered that your two "daddies" can't biologically have a child, yet here you are posting on 4chan.
>>333318119
You are completely ignoring the logic and reason behind the decision in favor of emotions relating to your childhood memories.
You're also making up shit like "they did it to become famous", because like everyone has pointed out, not one person knows the name of the people/person who did that.
>>333314404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaVjpA_hHtA If you can get over the annoying voice this video showcases some of the game well
>>333315181
>Pluto isnt even SPHERICAL
So it's flat then?
We need to ditch our meaty bodies before we can hope to travel far into space. Unity with machinery is the only way.
Omnissiah be praised.
>>333317923
So shortsighted.
I wonder how quickly civilisation would have petered out if people like you were ever in charge.
>All we have and all we will ever have is this cave, and we're already half way through painting the walls! Stop building those stone tools!
>>333318397
ELLIPSE
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>>333317787
you wanna get eaten dweeb
>>333318397
It's triangular you nimrod.
Triangles are now spheres because I say so. PUT ME IN THE SCIENCE TEXTBOOKS NOW HOLY SHIT.
>>333318293
>because I said so
No fucking shit: that's how languages work. "Planet" a concept is not a part of the objective reality.
>>333314404
OP here what should I crash together?
>>333314404
>takes something like half a day for Earth to die
Seems a bit slower than expected.
>>333317178
Stars don't have the planet Earth around them. Shamalamadingdongs do.
>>333315263
Because the cold war ended.
I've never stopped caring though. And I never will.
>>333318335
>logic and reason!!!
There was none. There was no fucking reason. The logic was shit.
>Fuck, none of this shit really lines up. I mean, even with our best definition, Earth is technically no-longer a planet, but it's better than what it was
>No it's not. It's not better than what it was.
>THEN HOW THE FUCK AM I GETTING ON TV, YOU PIECES OF SHIT!?!?!?
This is almost word-for-word what was said in there, according to first-hand accounts.
>>333318325
So you understand that by resorting to childish insults instead of answer my pretty basic question, you are actually, undeniably admitting to me that I am right and you are wrong.
Insult me if you agree.
https://youtu.be/fXRJBK8oJSA
THREAD THEME
>>333318542
So you agree that the sun should now be classified as a Shamalamadingdong? Great. NOW GIVE ME MONEY AND MAKE ME FAMOUS BLACK SCIENCE MAN CAN SUCK MY DICK.
>>333318558
I want to see shit going through Jupiter's rings. Big shit.
>>333318229
The density you are talking about isn't the same, though.
>Not to say the sun is gas / dust, but it started that way.
The nature of the universe at the time was entirely different to it is now, and celestial bodies formed billions of years prior to planets forming.
You are comparing things which are not comparable.
waht game is that?
>>333318567
Tzar Bomba is the stuff of fucking nuclear nightmares. Friendly reminder that they HALVED IT from a 100mt bomb to 50mt beacuse they were too scared.
Imagine the power. Hot damn...
>>333318641
Show me where anyone said that.
Also tell me the name of the person who is now famous and successful because of this.
>>333317853
I don't think so. Light acts as both a wave and a particle. Which when you visualize how that motion of travel would look it's highly inefficient. So theoretically a body with mass could travel at that rate with more efficient mode of travel. We can sit here all day and play 4chan paper physics on whether or not that's capable of humans until the end of time and never actually have an answer, though. Is rate of travel at the speed of light or greater possible? Theoretically. Will humanity ever be capable of it with the known materials provided here on Earth? I doubt it. It's far more likely we figure out some way to artificially manipulate gravity and bend space to our will. As farfetched as creating an area of mass capable of that sounds, it seems more likely. But again, can we do that with what is provided to us on Earth? Probably not. I don't think we can even create a vessel capable of withstanding such a mode of travel not to mention the affects it would have on the occupants. The same goes for light travel, as well.
>>333318571
>>333318665
Marvelous. Now find a good amount of stars with Earth-like planets around them and try to persuade the scientific community that, indeed, the distinction is not only clear, but actually needed for humanity
>>333318673
>Jupiter's rings
You mean saturn?
>>333318748
Universe sandbox2
>>333318641
>Earth is technically no-longer a planet
We've cleared the neighborhood, are round and orbit the Sun. Your argument is some pretty aggressive nonsense. This wasn't a discovery, this was a decision made by committee. Nobody got their name on this thing. We just needed the language to be more precise.
>>333318487
>If I just chop it up to space magic and live in a magical fantasy world where anything can happen so long as I believe hard enough- anything is possible!!!
>>333315181
>Pluto isnt even SPHERICAL
Neither is Earth
>>333318848
I'm retarded, and I suck cocks
>>333318654
>my feelings are hurt, making me the victor
Oh fuck, you stupid shitbag -- too bad it's the only fucking argument people use in support of this bullshit new definition.
>IF YOU DON'T LISTEN TO US, YOU'RE STUPID, UNSCIENTIFIC, DARK-AGE THROWBACKS!!!
Or are you fucking saying that's never been fucking said, you stupid fucking piece of shit?
Fucking. Check. Fucking. Mate.
>>333318848
>rings
They're called Fingle-Dingles now.
>>333318848
>You mean saturn?
Why Saturn when anon said Jupiter?
>>333318753
Look up project Pluto
It's amazing how this fucking mongolian cavepainting site still manages to surprise me with new depths of retardation.
>>333318986
You can call them whatever you like, sweetie. Just don't forget that no one will understand you outside of our friendly /v/ family
>>333317923
Star Trek is pure fantasy, but last time I checked the International Space Station still exists.
Once it gets its ass in gear humankind is pretty fucking inventive when challenged; food can be grown from a proper habitat, energy can be generated by proper renewables, the missing key is raw materials.
>>333318753
>Friendly reminder that they HALVED IT
>some soviet lunatic thought a 100 megaton bomb was necessary in the first place
I'm glad somebody talked that madman down.
>>333318503
Ellipses are two dimensional.
>>333318395
Holy shit, you were right about his fucking voice. How do these fags get popular?
This stupid shit is on the same level as inbred fucktards who start crying the moment you mention that a tomato is a fruit.
>BUT IT FEELS LIKE A VEGETABLE
>well we have a definition of what a fruit is, and a tomato falls under that
>BUT I DONT WANT IT TO BE A FRUIT, IT MAKES ME SAD
No one gives a fuck what your stupid feelings are.
>>333318673
... I can't really do that, it only renders the moons and large rocks
Scientist anons, what would Earth be like if it had Saturn like rings around it? Genuinely curious.
>>333319181
ELLIPSOID
>people whining about definitions
Pluto is a dwarf planet, you fucks, it's different enough from a planet to be classified differently
Get an astronomy degree and then talk to me
>>333318976
You didn't answer my question.
In that situation, which is reality, do you make Pluto a dwarf planet, or make all the other objects we found into new planets?
>>333319004
Saturn rings are more distinctive than Jupiter ones, but people still manage to fuck it up when naming them. You always assume for the worst, especially in this thread
>>333319093
Jokes on you. /v/ is no longer a message board. It's real life!!
>>333319254
Wow that's even gayer than me
Born too late to explore the Earth
Born too early to explore space
Born just in time to explore dank memes
>>333318741
>The density you are talking about isn't the same, though.
Not sure what you mean by this. There's nothing really special about a solid core. A dense core is a dense core, solid or made of gas under extreme pressures.
>The nature of the universe at the time was entirely different to it is now
No it wasn't... In what way do you mean?
The sun isn't even a 1st generation star. Stars and planets had been forming long before the sun was formed.
>>333318039
>Does it kind of have to have a solid core in order for it to hold together?
Not necessarily. A big part of why Jupiter is so huge is because of it's lack of gravity to just hold the gas to it's surface. So it bloats out. Not to say Jupiter has weak gravity but that's mostly because of it's raw size and amount of gas mass it has. Think about the Sun when it eventually reaches it's red giant stage. It becomes mostly helium and the outward force of the fusion of helium into Beryllium (thouh weaker than hydrogen into helium) becomes greater than the force of gravity created by the mostly helium core. So the outer layers of the sun will bloat out.
>>333319286
Ten times cooler than it is right now.
>>333318764
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1357/1
>Shitbag makes a model of the solar system for his shitheap of a museum
>Missing Pluto
>Tells everyone they're fucking stupid when they bring it up
>Organizes a fucking committee to suddenly be the authority on this bullshit
>Does EVERYTHING.He.Fucking.Can to exclude Pluto and keep all the rest of the planets
>>333319286
With or without moon? You can make the rings around planets in Universe Sandbox
>>333319254
What?
I just watched the trailer on steam and it shows a planet going through Saturns rings.
![0b4884b673242aacf6d822beb6ef69f2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bsIHQWL.jpg "0b4884b673242aacf6d822beb6ef69f2[1].jpg")
>you will never explore even a speck of all this and more
Why even live? What is the point?
>>333319371
Dude it takes ten seconds to google up that image, and you couldn't even be fucked to do that
Fucking apply yourself
>>333319286
I imagine it wouldn't be much different, aside from a cool view in the sky.
>>333319306
There you go. Still looks pretty spherical in that picture, tho. Oh, and by the way- a body in space being perfectly spherical has nothing to do with it being classed as a planet in the first place, slapdick.
>>333319353
Do you have any idea how hard it would be to render every little piece of rock orbiting Saturn? They could add it as a visual effect I guess without any physics
>>333319432
With the moon, because the moon is pretty cool.
>>333319429
>everything to do with black people is now WE WUZ KINGS XD posting bullshit
>>333319537
There would be no rings, obviously
I hope you're not serious
>>333319491
what image
>>333319453
>Explore
Theres lots of black and lots of empty worlds of barren rock
There you go, you've seen it all
>Wants to explore space
>When we haven't explored a fraction of the earth's ocean yet
>>333319429
I don't see any of what you just said on there.
>>333319452
Never mind it does my bad
I am pretty confident that when Pluto was """downgraded""" to "not a planet", at that exact moment was when humanity went to shit
>>333319209
I used to follow Nerd 3 back in the day. He's doing a flanderized geeky voice. He used to be tolerable.
>>333319604
Saturn has rings and moons though.
>>333319604
What? Why?
>>333319212
>tomato is a fruit.
uhhhhh excuse you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nix_v._Hedden
>>333319529
That's exactly it. You could take these bitching screenshots from the surface of Saturn in Space Engine. I guess this one is more physics-y though.
Here's the best plan for humanity to survive
1. Develop a super intelligent AI
2. Freeze a bunch of embryos
3. Launch them into space
4. Let the AI scan for habitable planets and pick one to colonise (this may take thousands of years)
5. Once the population on that planet is big enough, they can launch their own frozen embryo spaceships
>>333319716
>>333319452
What do you want to go through?
Can someone please fucking crash a planet into another planet?
>>333319309
Your question was a weenie question.
There's no harm in including at least one or some of them as planets. There's no harm in excluding any of them, except Pluto as planets. It has no effects on any experimental or observational data. It's 100% pure circlejerk.
>>333319604
Is there a reason more than one object can't orbit a planet? I'd say no, since several planets have several moons.
>>333319619
>every single planet in the universe is a barren rock
God damn you're such a stupid faggot.
>>333319619
>explore earth's ocean
There's a lot of volcanic vents and deep sea creatures.
There you go, you've seen it all.
>>333319808
Upload consciousnesses. Now fuck off.
>>333319808
>trusting AI
>>333319808
>Not just accepting that humanity is not immortal and enjoying the time you have
>>333319869
Which planets anon?
>>333319309
I vote to make them all planets.
I mean why not? What would be so horrible and taxing on scientific progress to not refer to them as planets? What in their description makes them not worthy of being considered planets?
>>333319907
He lies sleeping in his city beneath the waves, anon.
>>333319882
But adding any of them as planets destroys your childhood memories.
And if you don't define what a planet is then how the fuck do you observe shit?
>Hey I found a round thing that goes around a sun and is kind of big
>Is it a planet?
>I dunno, what's a planet?
>>333319906
Statistically? Yes. Theres one, MAYBE two planets out there that can harbor life.
>>333319978
But Anon, I do plan to live forever. Maybe not like heat death of the universe forever, but a long fucking time forever.
>>333319916
A proper AI would be rad.
It may surpass us, but all children are meant to surpass their parents. There's nothing wrong with that.http://multivax.com/last_question.html
>>333319808
>1. Develop a super intelligent AI
Yeah okay, lets just get right on that.
We'll go ahead and make a machine that can operate at an equal or higher level than the human brain can, when we don't even understand how the fuck our own brains do half the shit they do.
Yeah, I'll have that ready in an hour bub, no sweat.
>>333320020
real answer is that you're going to end up with way too many, to the point where it's difficult to teach children. since the solar system is elementary school level stuff
>>333319286
How thin is Saturn's ring anyways, because if it's
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Then wouldn't that mean that whatever is caught under the ring's shade is deprived from the Sun's radiant light, so if the ring shades a strip into a forest, you'll have this desolate cold strip in the middle of the forest barren of life?
>>333320113
That story pisses me off so fucking much. The ending is a disgusting cop-out and has no place in science fiction. Reee etc.
>>333320020
>What in their description makes them not worthy of being considered planets?
They aren't gravitationally dominant within their orbits and/or they aren't large enough to achieve hydrostatic equilibrium. These things kinda matter when describing how they behave and what they're like.
>>333320198
We've got plenty of time before our sun dies
>>333319907
>im-fucking-plying
We've barely seen a smidgen of the seafloor and you're just going to make that assumption because of some documentary you saw on the Discovery channel? Fuck off back to whatever rock you crawled out from, you're the kind of person that will lead humanity to extinction given the chance.
>>333319793
US custom law is not a scientific definition. You know that other countries exist, right?
>>333320223
I think it's thin enough that a large percentage of solar radiation goes through it. I guess smart people would know exactly how much.
>>333319710
Which part are you missing?
>>333320232
I've heard some bad opinions in my time, but this one really takes the cake.
>>333320026
Which would be cool (or wouldn't be I guess?) but in general peoples fantasies about the ocean floor far surpasses the reality of it.
>>333319212
never met anyone who gets upset or defensive. They just sometimes dont know, so you tell them and they go "oh shit I didn't know that"
Stop being reddit.
Space can go fuck itself. In as little as a century we could be living in a world where robots do 95% of our jobs and everyone can live in virtual reality where we can do literally whatever the fuck we want.
Oh sorry is this simulation of exploring the stars "not the real thing"? You want the real thing? Okay then fight a constant uphill battle against the laws of the universe and maybe, just MAYBE, in a few years you'll be all alone at the closest star to us with fucking nothing to do. Meanwhile I'll be chilling in the VR box doing/seeing/being anything I want.
Until space is anything beyond REALLY FUCKING HUGE and mostly empty with the occasional speck of ice or collection of gas, it can just fuck off.
>>333320198
Wew, good argument lad
Would you have said the same thing if someone said
1. Develop horseless carriage
1. Develop Space rocket
1. Develop anything other than banging rocks together
>>333320223
Saturn's rings are thin as fuck.
Also sunlight doesn't just come straight from above. Scattering through the atmosphere means that sunlight reaches pretty much all over. E.g, when you watch a sunset, it's actually already set over your horizon, but you can still see it due to the scattering.
>>333320394
Well smartass maybe you get off Isaac's dick for long enough to qualify your statements, faggot.
>>333314404
OP CAN YOU DELIVER MORE COSLISSIONS AND SHIT PLEASE
>>333320394
yeah i've heard some bad ones too
>AI's are safe
or my favorite
>children are supposed to surpass their parents so an AI should murder all humanity.
>>333320232
Eat shit.
>>333320232
But it's literally the perfect ending
>>333320358
There is no "scientific" definition of a vegetable in the first place. Fruit is an important botanical word because it describes the function and nature of the structure. Vegetable is just the word we use in English for things what come from a plant that we put in our mouth that aren't squishy or starchy but sometimes are.
Tomatoes are vegetables. The only reason people struggle with this is that their understanding of categories hasn't evolved since the third grade.
>>333314769
>2
Oh so once they blew their profit margins by selling for $1, they just make an overpriced sequel to add new features instead of patching them into the original game like before.
>>333320432
Thats cool anon, but I can't pray to the gods and hope things just phase into existence. I have to work from facts, reasoning and reality.
>>333320198
>Doesn't know about the super intelligent AI that was released a week ago
They had to unplug her. By noon, her bantz were getting too fierce.
>>333316139
didn't you learn anything from event horizon?
>>333319746
The moons near the rings are small enough to not disturb the rings themselves. In fact they keep them in tact. The other moons are so far from rings their gravitational wells can't affect the rings at all compared to Saturn ones.
>>333319748
Rings should be around the orbit of the moon to actually orbit the Earth for millions of years. The ring structure wouldn't hold itself if it was closer. If a ring suddenly appeared around the Earth, the Moon would fuck it up almost instantly, swinging asteroids left and right, until one of it hits the Earth and kills most of the life. To be safe from the Moon the rings should be far-far from the Earth. So far you wouldn't be able to see them, for a start. But the ring structure would most likely collapse due to Earth having little to none effect on the asteroids to support the constant ring around itself at that length.
>>333319895
It depends on the mass of the object and mass of the orbiting objects. Mars can have 2 "moons", because they are asteroid sized. Earth can't allow to have another Moon sized object around it. And because the Moon is so massive it would also devour any smaller objects that would try to orbit around the planet.
>>333320432
Not that guy, but
>1. Develop a super intelligent AI
is such a vague task given what the AI would need to do.
It needs to scan for habitable planets.
It needs to land in an appropriate place.
Perhaps the biggest challenge, it needs to raise humans from embyro status to fully functioning humans, and then lay the foundation for a space-faring civilisation.
He may as well have just said
>1. Become immortal.
This is all fan fiction tier.
>>333320308
>doesn't want to explore space because he "knows" what to expect
>thinks we're going to find Atlantis or some shit
>>333320715
>super intelligent
>>333318397
No, it's a myth. The earth is the universe and it's all flat.
>>333319808
Did you not see what happened to Tay? We should probably not trust an AI to do anything more than our taxes.
>>333320432
No, because what your suggesting doesn't include creating something that surpasses us, by using knowledge we don't have.
Unless you're suggesting that this happen millions of years in the future, because that's probably the only chance of us creating an AI as complicated as you're suggesting.
>>333320565
>>333320564
>>333320394
Faggots talking shit without substance. Okay.
>>333316284
Well China is starting to rev up its space program, does that mean we'll have a Space Race 2.0 as we attempt to beat those Chinese monkeys to Mars?
>>333318798
It helps you find stars with inhabitable planets.
>>333320690
Oh yeah? We never learn anything new huh?
Dumbass
>>333319914
>Upload consciousnesses
Youve been playing too many videogames
>>333320830
>let trashy meme man
Okay
>>333320829
Well cars go faster than me, and the diesel engine is like, what, a 120 years old?
>>333320884
Real talk Anon, all sass and snark aside. Are you a 12 year old in real life?
>>333319212
WAit, tomato is a fruit?
>>333320067
But multiple planets have micro life already, considering we evolved from such forms of life, is it out of the question to assume that some day, billions of years from now after earth is a collapsed star and remnants of human culture is neigh but obliterated, that the cycle would repeat itself and a new life form would evolve to meet the habitation constraints of its environment?
Is that really so hard to understand?
>>333320858
The fuck do we want with mars.
>>333320760
>a ring around the earth would decay rapidly, but instead of explaining this or considering the hypothetical I figured I'd just be rude to some randy on the chans
No need to be a dick, bruh.
>>333321065
The fuck did you want with the moon? Bragging rights. Same shit.
>>333320609
tomatoes are only "vegetables" in that they are imported and used, culinary-wise as vegetables.
They are the fruit on the vine of the tomato plant. Cucumbers are also fruits.
You know what a fruit is, right?
>>333320897
>canned monkeys in space
>colonies with no chance of resupply
At least I don't believe them
>>333321065
The fuck do we want a moon landing for?
The answers are similar.
>>333320067
>a planet is only worth checking out if it can harbor life
But that's bullshit. There's probably a shit ton we can learn about the universe from studying non-habitable planets.
>>333320859
A simple filter search can do the same thing. In thousands of years. after the humanity colonizes tens of star systems that distinction may be viable
>>333319212
Saying a tomato is a fruit is retarded.
Nobody says bananas or watermelons are berries either.
>>333320945
I really hope you aren't trying to equate making something move fast to essentially creating a mechanical lifeform with a consciousness.
I'm not talking out my ass on this shit. We are actually creating quantum computers at this very moment, but we still are incredibly basic when it comes to AI. The tasks required to create a real AI are actually tantamount to creating a functioning brain out of nothing.
>>333321035
>is it out of the question to assume
Yes. Assumptions have no place in the logic of a rational man
>>333321109
That's what I've said. What the fuck do you want from me answering a question "why can't there be rings with Moon around the Earth?"? If you're asking that question you deserve to be treated as a child
>>333320775
Don't underestimate the machine.
>>333320238
Well that's reasonable. I just assumed scientists claimed they didn't count simply because of their size; with the title being "dwarf planet" and all.
They should retire the term "dwarf planet" completely and replace it with something more fitting like "errant/subordinate body"
Continuing to call them "dwarf planets" would be like calling tomatoes "Seeded vegetables".
