PG literally saved this game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieZ5PQrKisc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6tvyVlGMWs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbm3ylIlFKw
>>333289489
>it's a let's circlejerk over PlatinumGames thread
>Platinum themselves say they only did art assets.
>Retards will praise them for everything good and shit on Miyamoto for everything they dislike.
>>333289576
This is bullshit
The cutscenes alone look 100% Platinum's work.
>They keep fucking dying
Why are reviewers so shit?
>>333289576
>Platinum themselves say they only did art assets
>cutscenes
>slowmo due perfect evading
>BladeWolf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EPnlrPafi0
>>333289576
Pretty much.
>>333289576
>shit on Miyamoto for everything they dislike.
Star Fox Guard is 100% Miyamoto though.
>>333289972
>game is too hard
Can't wait for 68 on metacritic.
>>333289489
>that music
>>333289576
Miyamoto is holding Platinum back. If it weren't for him, we'd have the triumphant return of Star Fox with actual decent visuals and no gimmicky bullshit. Geezer needs to just fucking leave Nintendo already and quitting shoving unnecessary shit down everyone's throat.
Why are they muting the voices?
So are Wolfen's confirmed to be a ripoff of Arwings in this timeline too?
>>333290702
Miyamoto made the voices come through the gamepad. A perfect example of the shit that I'm talking about.
>>333290729
How's that a surprise?
They have Pigma on their team.
>>333290702
Miyamoto didn't get to ruin the game with the episodic format he wanted, but he wanted to ruin SOME part of this game, so he made voices Gamepad only.
>>333290702
Gamepad speakers only.
>>333290827
I dunno. I just wasn't expecting them to transform like Arwings.
>>333290793
Watch the first video moron, you can change it.
>that fucking music
After Assault's badass arrangement, I was expecting to be let down, but this is pretty good. Only thing I have a problem with is,
>"I'm coming for you, Star Fox!"
>it's just Fox he's fighting
>>333290931
>>333290923
>>333290793
Nothing wrong with it.
>>333290793
>>333290923
>>333290931
The fuck. I usually play games Gamepad-only (does this game support playing the Gamepad in third person or is that impossible too?) so this shouldn't affect me but that's retarded.
![[agitation intensifies].gif](https://i.imgur.com/ldwyTya.gif "[agitation intensifies].gif")
>>333290793
>>333290923
>>333290931
>Gamepad Speaker only
How badly can one man fuck up? Will he go down in history as the man that made great series and then did nothing but fuck them up?
>>333291082
Yes, according to GameExplain you can toggle camera's on the gamepad with the minus button.
>>333291082
>does this game support playing the Gamepad in third person or is that impossible too?
You can switch view any time.
I like Krystal
>>333289489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XkulJbiFJY
>Corneria2
>The entire place is fucking destroyed
>Dire music
>The Tower in the first stage that you protect gets sucked in a vortex
>Gigarilla wrecks shit
>Andross shows up to taunt you.
Fuck I don't know what's going on but I'm hyped
More vids from a way more competent player and with character voices included:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cimVniTYL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xnr587jdDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XkulJbiFJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP4UD7dTWmg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieZ5PQrKisc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41jLiXuqKKI
Plus preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2K0xWVWOXA
>controls take time getting used to, but give you an amount of precision you never had before in Star Fox
>levels only feel superficially similar to Star Fox 64, the actual objectives and mission structure are completely different and missions are a lot longer
>>333291068
Except that I, and pretty much every other Wii U owner, keep it muted when playing on the TV.
>>333291027
GameXplain specifically stated they recorded voices by connecting a cable to the headphone jack of the Gamepad, and I believe at one point they mentioned there is no way to switch audio to the TV, like you can with cockpit view.
>>333289489
Don't want to spoil it for myself - is the game not bad?
>>333291351
Platinum is the only reason this game may turn out decent.
>>333291294
>Entire place is fucking destroyed
yknow, we weren't that far off with the entire "Corneria gets nuked" thing.
>>333291341I wouldn't mind Krystal returning if and ONLY if they remove every single bit of relationship bullshit tied to her character.
>>333290231
He's the reason the game's price is so high by including a glorified e shop game. Fucking thanks Miyamoto.
Not liking Wolfs voice but the transformation is cool
>>333291808
Pretty sure there's a standalone Zero game m8
>>333291294
>Corneria 2 basically DOES get nuked
WHERE'S MIYU AND FAY
>dat Star Wolf remix
It may not be Assault but it's definitely up there
>>333291314
I can't take gamexplain's reviews seriously. I tend to disagree with them on a lot of things.
>>333291314
nice round up. Hype.
>>333291351
It looks great actually.
>>333289489
>Dat 64 Boss Battle theme
oh mamma
>>333292202
I find myself disagreeing with Andre and agreeing with Derrick most of the time, but what matters here are just the gameplay videos.
>>333292069
Saved for the sequel so they can form a team with Krystal and Katt.
>>333290621
>Miyamoto will die in my lifetime
>tfw no Star Fox Zero Iwata Asks
>>333291052
If you notice he has a plaster over his eye, I'm assuming the 4v4 fight is over and wolf is coming for fox personally
>>333291808
But it's priced the same as any other game.
>>333292798
>any of us could die before Miyamoto
>>333293071
>Miyamoto could accidentally run us over in his kart and kill us
>>333290231
Your point being? Star Fox Guard is great.
ITT: Shitposters act like motion controls and gamepad-only voice acting ruins the game.
The former can be disabled, the latter has no possible negative impact - it's actually a huge plus as the gamepad's underused surround audio is used for it
>>333293658
That's not what I expected from Shiggy Miitomo and Wii U gamepad duet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w9aEwjmHvQ
CORNERIA GOT FUUUUUUUUUUCKED
>>333293772
>miitomo
>bad
>gamepad
>bad
Nobody would fall for such lies
>>333293759
>>it's actually a huge plus as the gamepad's underused surround audio is used for it
>Slippy will scream at me to get this guy off him from all directions
Can't wait.
>>333293759
>the latter has no possible negative impact
What if I don't want to use the Gamepad?
it's clear PG had influence
>>333289489
I think it's just funny to me how the Wolfen's transforming is blade Wolf....While Fox is just some silly looking chicken that can't be taken seriously. Also....
>Lightning Tornado
Wolf confirmed for being a Weeb
>>333293071
>Miyamoto might release a good starfox before he dies.
>>333294129
What if you want to play Smash Bros using a Kinect?
>>333294331
>don't want to use the best controller ever
Can't help you, retard.
>>333294331
I'm not sure if you can use a pro controller for singleplayer, or why you'd want to either
You guys really use Miyamoto as a scapegoat don't you?
When the game is bad, it's all his fault and should the game be good, it's all of the people developing it except him, with the man obviously being responsible for the games flaws.
Similar things have happened with other figureheads.
>>333293887
>Corneria will be nuked rumor had some merit to it
>>333290793
Fucking why? I mean it's really not THAT big a deal but fucking why!
>>333289489
>wolf transformation
GEE PLATINUM
YOU COULDN'T BE DISCREET ABOUT IT?
>yfw venom turns into a jergingha looking motherfucker
>>333294650
To use the surround audio from the gamepad, you can actually here where their voices are coming from. Pretty cool
>>333294510
>>333294523
I think the pro controller feels better than the Gamepad. Why shouldn't I have the option? People complain about Nintendo forcing you to use shitty control schemes like waggle all the time, why is this the exception?
>>333289489
Will this be the new Kid Icarus: Uprising?
>>333294554
Too be fair he doesn't make the wisest decisions. Sticker Star, Wii Music, disapproved of the story book in Galaxy.I can agree with the figurehead thing though. Aonuma gets too much flak.
>>333294720
BORN
INTO A PACK
>>333291314
DAT CORNERIA 2 HOLY SHIT
>>333294791
We don't know for sure if it's the exception. Besides, Splatoon was the exception and has been highly praised for how well-integrated the gamepad is with its gameplay.
>>333293759
gyro controls have a steep learning curve, but once you overcome them they tend to be superior to analog for aiming.Though I still think they're at their best when combined with analog control
no strong feelings about the gamepad voices, the entire point of the game was to sell the concept of the gamepad to consumers, so it's expected they'd play with features to force you to pay attention to it. It reminds me a bit of the phonecalls in NMH, I really missed them in 2. Could be pretty cool with headphones
But it does kinda feel like people are looking at anything they can find to bitch about the game. Or, as this topic is showing, to attribute all positive aspects to platinum, which is somewhat new
Literally hold x to win
>>333294791
>waggle is the same thing as gyro.
>>333294791
>Why shouldn't I have the option?
This game was build around U pad. Like Wonderful 101, Mario Maker, Spratoon and Fatal Frame V.
>>333294760
Can't wait for any W101 references.
>>333294760
Andross seems to have a full body judging from the latest videos since he's shown with a cloak covering what seem to be shoulders, so that's still a possibility of sorts despite the leak that first talked about it being fake.
>>333295064
>Spratoon
Miyamoto please leave
>>333289489
I'm just glad next smash game we are gonna get a more decent looking fox. I'm so tired of command's fox
>>333295045
They're both gimmicks being forced upon me. You can like gyro but I don't want it being forced upon me, and if it is then it's just as bad as waggle.
>>333295257
t. Shitposter that doesn't own Splatoon or even a Wii U
>>333289489
Welp that looks incredibly boring and easy. Looks like a game from 2003. Looks like a downgrade from Assault believe it or not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-r-PHAiV24&list=PLV9ZrDQVqbTWJnH_VczC04VzASXhixHq7&index=3
Clear music tracks so far.
>>333295138
leak?
>>333295345
>muh graphics
>muh assult
1/10 I replied.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi34XJx35ZE
LIGHTNING TORNADO
>>333295345
Not
>>333295331
I own both. Splatoon's gyro can be 100% entirely disabled. I heard a report that Star Fox's gyro cannot be 100% disabled, though if that information has since been updated to say it can then my issue regarding the game's gyro no longer matters.
>>333295442
Where did I mention graphics?
>Star Wolf has the Wolfens tranform into wolves
>Star Fox decides Arwings should turn into chickens
>>333295418
Someone on here a week or so ago shared a bunch of stuff about the game including the final boss being similar to Jerghingha, but it was proven fake as he gave a different function for the Falco amiibo from the one that was revealed slightly later.
Yeah, I'm okay with this.
>>333295519
Miyamoto confirmed that it can't be changed "because the game made to use it" or something like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP4UD7dTWmg
>Shoot during cutscenes
>Bill
>>333295568
>looks like a game from 2003
What else would this mean?
>>333295519
You can turn gyro controls off in SF0 too, Gamexplain mentioned it in their overview video.
>>333295064
> Wonderful 101
but that game lets you play with the pro controller. It gives you the option. It doesn't help your case.
>>333295724
>"because the game made to use it"
Yeah, just like games that force you to use motion controls, and it's bullshit there as well.
>>333295829
You don't have to use gyro controls, they can be disabled. You can stop shitposting now.
>>333295791
>but that game lets you play with the pro controller
You lost any fun with pro controller in W101. Stop whining.
>>333295759
It means that the environments have very bland design and population, the animations are rigid, the gameplay is overly simplistic. None of those things are graphics. Mechanically there is no depth and the art direction is either shit or executed very poorly. I'm a star fox fan and this game is the definition of anti-hype. It's the least ambitious thing I've seen in awhile.
>>333295980
http://mynintendonews.com/2016/03/04/nintendo-confirms-motion-controls-cant-be-entirely-disabled-in-star-fox-zero/
So this information is false? I'm not shitposting, I'm just making entirely sure that the can be completely disabled before I buy a game that I find playing to be unbearable.
>>333296020
post wonder santa
>>333289489
>location confirmed WATCH FOR supplies
What the fuck, it used to be SENDING supplies.
>>333294791
>Why shouldn't I have the option?
Because that's how the game works, it was built around Gamepad controls. Are you mad that most FPS games force you to use the trigger buttons?
>>333296078
At least half of what you listed are part of a game's graphics...
>>333296143
All I know is gamexplain stated in one their overview video that it can be disabled. I'm not sure why you'd even want to disable it, though.
>>333296158
Haven't screen with him. Here, take Alice.
>>333296163
The made lots of different tiny changes on the famous quotes. Guess it's for enhancing the fact that it's a reinterpretation of the same story.
>>333289489
So will wolf get a new final smash if he ever returns
>>333296163
They slightly changed multiple quotes just to fuck with fans, such as Wolf's "You're good... but I'm better." turning into "You're good... but not good enough."
>>333291808
it's 60 for both you fucking poorfag.
>>333295064
splatoon wasn't "built around" the gamepad. The only functions the gamepad gives splatoon are gyro aiming and a map. And don't tell me the map being on the pad lets you use it faster. Looking down away from the main screen takes just as long if not longer then pressing a button to bring up a map on the main screen. And don't tell me bringing up a map being on the main screen would obstruct the view - to look at the gamepad you have to take you attention away from the tv screen entirely. The only real thing the gamepad offers is gyro aiming which can be turned off - giving you an option.
>>333296291
No, because they're buttons, not fucking gyro controls. I don't see what you don't understand about this, I dislike gyro controls, that is the end all be all of my gripe with being forced to use gyro controls, I don't like them. That is the difference between your FPS game comparison and this. Have I made myself clear or are you going to continue to be ignorant to my argument to try to defend forcing me to use a control scheme which I dislike without alternative?
>>333296359
Post wonder Kamiya
>>333296359
SEMEN DEMON
>no Krystal
>>333296078
>Mechanically there is no depth
I have a feeling videos have a hard time properly portraying how the gamepad viewpoint factors into gameplay. Sounds like one of those things one has to experience to get a feel for but otherwise it does look like Starfox 64 1.5 gameplay wise, which I'm also fine with because I've wanted that for some 15 years now. The series has dicked around enough with not being a rail shooter. A return to roots title is well overdue in my opinion.
>>333296481
>>333296604
Wow, after having the quotes being drilled into my head, that's kind of disheartening
>>333296673
Then don't buy the game
>>333296918
>if you don't like it don't buy it!
Well okay, just don't be surprised when I continue calling the game shit.
>>333289489
>>333289489
i literally just got done playing some star fox 64. this shit looks so much faster! there's a real sense of speed.
man, i'm officially hyped again.
>>333296020
no it fucking didn't you shiteater, it was better with it. The stick is superior to the pad and using the pro controller means I don't have to use the no-battery relatively heavy and clunky mess that is the gamepad.
And EVEN IF the pro controller was inferior to the gamepad at least it gave me the fucking option so people who aren't cocksucking fanboys can enjoy the game which is what the original poster was talking about.
>>333296304
No, graphics is relating to texture quality, polygon count, and performance. None of those things I listed are graphics. There are examples of games that have bad graphics but also have great animations, populated environments and good game feel. Star Fox 0 is not one of them.
>>333289489
Jesus Christ, the game is still ugly as fuck. That white landscape filled with absolute nothing... Even SF 64 had stuff in the landscape while you were fighting Star Wolf. And why is the game so slow? Is it to accommodate the new gamepad controls that require you to aim with the pad?
>>333289489
>Wolf's voice acting
>Wolf's vehicle transformers into the badass Bladewolf from MGR
>That orchestrated battle theme
>>333296661
It's not as simple as just showing a map on the TV - the whole reason the map is on the gamepad is so you can "superjump" to players and player-placed "beacons" on the map. Each player can place a maximum of 3 beacons each, meaning a total of 16 locations to superjump to are possible (+1 since you can superjump to your base). Whilst it's not impossible to make that work without the touchscreen of the gamepad, I doubt you could make it even close to at intuitive.
>>333296673
What's wrong with gyro controls?
You have use them, right?
>>333289489
>lightning tornado!
Was the voice actor sleepy during the recording of the dialogue? It's terrible. Also, why the change in perspective to hype this attack when it's basically just a rush through a straight line? Is it on easy mode or something?
>>333297089
>good game feel
How do you know how the game feels when it's not out yet?
>>333295584
>Implying Fox isn't a goody-goody two-shoes and lets his team have a vote on what should be done
>Falco would argue that it should be bird-like because of "muh rivalry with Fox"
>Slippy would agree with Falco because Arwing has "wing" in it, making it avian by proxy
>Peppy would stay the fuck out of it and let the children bicker among themselves
>Wolf would just say "Fuck you guys, I'm the leader of this fucking team. My ships, my designs."
>everyone would fall in line because
>Andrew is a fucking twat
>Pigma is a shit and doesn't care
>Leon just follows Wolf
And this is why nobody fucking likes Slippy.
>>333289576
What? Where they say that
>>333291314
>Andross has his cape back
>>333297003
Jesus what a waste of time that would be.
>>333296661
If you're not keeping an eye on the map during a match, you're not doing a good enough job to track your team's turf. It literally takes a split second to glance at the screen, and if you're so flustered about dividing your attention for a moment, you can lift the gamepad away from your lap before you look, minimizing the distance you need to look away.
It's not fucking rocket science to play with a second screen. The DS has been around for more than ten years.
>>333296020
Goo luck 101%ing the game using touch controls.
>>333297447
Shitposters have the time to waste since they don't actually play games.
>>333289972
It's their own fault. The babby no-damage mode was put in for them.
>>333297581
You told me not to buy it.
>>333297003
>if you don't like it don't buy it!
That's actually a completely valid point. You wouldn't buy the foods you don't like at the grocery store would you? It doesn't mean those foods are bad, you just don't like them
>>333293759
That one Nintendo rep said motion controls aren't necessary.
>>333297729
Well in this analogy it's more like they're going to stop stocking the food I do like if enough people enjoy the food I don't like, so I have reason to care about whether I like this food or not.
>>333289489
Man I fucking hate Gamexplain's new intro. So fucking loud and obnoxious, and it lasts just short enough that trying to skip it without skipping any of the actual video's a pain in the ass.
>>333297846
But it's still achieving absolutely nothing to cry about it in /v/
>>333292202
I'd say their XCX review was accurate enough.
>>333297846
Guess what? There are other grocery stores
>>333297234
Just use a pointer controlled with the stick. The more I think about it the more I want this hypothetical control scheme because just pressing the - button (for example lets say it brought up the map) and moving the pointer over to the desired beacon and pressing another button is much faster and feels better then having to take attention away from the screen - look down at another screen and actually touch on that screen where you want to go.
>What's wrong with gyro controls? You have used them, right?
Not him but it's a preference - some people (myself unincluded) prefer buttons and only buttons and it's a fair one. Just because someone doesn't like gyro controls doesn't mean that they're lying or that they haven't tried them. That argument can be applied to fucking ANYTHING.
>What's wrong with motion controls? You have used them, right?
>What's wrong with VR? You have used it, right?
>What's wrong with 3D movies? You have watched them, right?
>>333296163
Autist.
>>333297430
Doesn't it look like he has a full body, arms included?
>>333297528
You can use sticks on U pad you know? I talk mostly about asynchronous sections of this game.
>>333298051
That pointer controls idea sounds admittedly neat, but I'm quite certain it'd be slower given how finicky pointer aiming with a wiimote tends to be compared to tapping a screen that's literally in your hands. It's worth keeping in mind that most play splatoon with the gamepad held vertically since it makes the gyro aiming easier, so you're more glancing below the TV at thw gamepad rather than actually looking down.
I understand some may have a preference for non-motion control, but when the games are built around them for faster aiming movement (that sticks, unfortunately, cannot match) there's not much you can do about it - bitching about it on /v/ of all places is hardly going to get you anywhere either.
>2 hour game
>Awkward as fuck tilt controls that give you cheatyface levels of a firing arc making maneuvering pointless
>Phoned in voice acting doesn't even hit the so bad it's good mark
>Midi soundtrack
>Graphics look worse than Star Fox Assault
>>333298612
>tfw no Ed gf with artificial dog on shrooms
>>333298483
Yeah, it does. He's got some sort of robe on. Maybe during the boss fight you can shoot his limbs and head off, and they float like in the old game. I can't wait to see what they have in store. Maybe we'll even get to fight Andross's brain again.
>>333298612
Where did you get 2 hours from? Especially when each level appears to have alternate routes only accessible later on.
How are tilt controls an issue when the game's been built with them in mind? We've known as much since shiggy first showed it off.
The VAs sound fairly on-point to me, not sure why some iconic lines werw changed though.
>MIDI soundtrack
Literally a lie
The graphics are sub-par but I don't care as long as the gameplay holds up.
>>333299114
>falling for the bait
Imagine I posted that picture of disgruntled Falco with the coffee mug from earlier in the thread.
>>333299228
>I was just pretending!
>>333298018
What other grocery stores are making Star Fox?
As ugly as this game is, if its always running at 60 fps I can live with the lowered graphic fidelity.
>>333299114
It's the most obvious shitposting I can't believe you're actually taking it seriously. It's so obvious I think you're just the same Anon trying to drum up attention for his own point.
>>333291294
>The Arwings keep flying around Andross as he speaks.
Oh thank god. I know they have "G-Diffusers" or some shit but it looked so awkward when the Assault Arwings stopped midair.
Just saying how long it takes to run through the game. Replays need not apply.
I was hoping the game would be built with them in mind but then I watch that star wolf fight. He clearly doesn't have tilt controls. He has to maneuver to hit fox, but fox can shoot at anything within 180 degrees of him. Both videos of fighting him look completelely unfair on wolf's end and way too easy.
I don't know what shit composer they have working on it but it sounds midi like and a massive downgrade from assault. Doesn't even have the energy of 64. It's just drab.
And graphics I could understand holding back a bit on, but once again, it looks worse than games from 2 generations ago.
VAs sound bored.
>>333299574
Meant for >>333299114
>>333297234
>It's not as simple as just showing a map on the TV - the whole reason the map is on the gamepad is so you can "superjump" to players and player-placed "beacons" on the map. Each player can place a maximum of 3 beacons each, meaning a total of 16 locations to superjump to are possible (+1 since you can superjump to your base). Whilst it's not impossible to make that work without the touchscreen of the gamepad, I doubt you could make it even close to at intuitive.
Have you ever played a Battlefield game?
>>333298612
64 was a 1 hour game.
>>333299293
Does it seem like that anon is the sameone that started the reply chain, really?
>>333299451
None, because other grocery stores make better products.
>>333299471
>I can't believe you're actually taking it seriously.I wasn't. I was counter-shitposting, a sub-category of shitposting
>>333299789yes
>>333299660
>Have you ever played a Battlefield game?
_no
>>333299660
This jump he speaks of isn't a "respawn" thing, you do it in real time. You can do it to escape situations, you can be crafty with it and shift your attack mid fight, there's even abilities centered around making your jump faster so you can do it when under fire.
>>333299872
If the other grocery stores don't stock what I want there aren't any other grocery stores I can go to, so the stock of this specific one matters.
>>333298552
>asynchronous sections
oh you mean the parts where you go into a building and the everything moves down to the gamepad for some reason with the only thing on the tv is something that lets you know what you're doing is correct (you twisted the bridge corrsctly hurray)? Because those weren't that fun and could easily be done without a second screen. The only bonus minigame part where you need to pay close attention to both screens istwo minigames, one where you control a spaceship while fighting off enemies at the same time and one where you shoot rockets with the gamepad and avoid missiles with the tv screen. Even then these are just minigames that aren't that good to begin with. The better minigames usually have a tradition one screen control scheme. 99% of this game could be done just as well with a second screen. Now of course this does leave out that 2% but it still really gets under my skin when people tote w101 as a reason why the gamepad is a great and totally not an oversized money wasting piece of junk.
/v/ should just quit trying to make analogies.
>>333300040
>oversized money wasting piece of junk
>>333300140
>/v/ should just quit
Fixed.
>>333300140
Yeah, I always hated the "You don't have to be chef to know that food tastes bad" analogy. Nigha, chefs are trained to have better pallets than their customers. Sometimes they just get spoiled customers.
>>333289489
>put all that effort into stylish boss fights
>levels are totally empty
like holy shit theres nothing and barely any regular enemies
>>333300570
How the fuck do you train your taste buds to be "better?" And why should I go to you if you can only make food that requires training your taste buds to specifically tastes to enjoy?
This game's giving me a reason to live
>>333300758
I'd rather it be kept concise than spam waves and waves of enemies - reminds me of how Bayonetta's starfox-like portion overstayed it's welcome in that regard.
>>333301105
how bad are you
>>333298051
>because just pressing the - button (for example lets say it brought up the map) and moving the pointer over to the desired beacon and pressing another button is much faster and feels better then having to take attention away from the screen
Have you played the game? That would be much, much slower and clunkier, you'd get splattes while looking at the map half the time. It literally takes half a second to tap the screen and you really want the map up at all times to keep track of the turf and other players.
>>333300040
Are you the same idiot who kept shitposting the Star Fox Zero on /m/?
>>333291314
Did they confirm that you can lock the reticle?
>>333298051
If bringing up a menu with a button, moving a pointer, and pushing another button is "much faster" and easier for you than using the Gamepad screen, then I don't necessarily blame you for having your preference, but for those of us who get along well with dual screen gameplay, using the screen is WAY faster than that.
If you just can't click with managing dual screens, that's fair, but regardless of whether SFZ gives you the option to disable gyro controls or not, this is a game made for dual screens, on a console with dual screens. Not that Nintendo has made the best case for it or very much use of it in its lifespan, but it's like expecting a DS/3DS game to only use one of the screens.
>>333301290
I found the starfox section the easiest part of Bayonetta 1 though, it just lasted far longer than it needed to.
>>333292620
don't joke about that
>>333301394
Oh, you're talking about the section in Bayo 1. Fair enough, then.
>>333301105
SF64 has a minimum 150 kill quota for each level
Zero looks to have around 50 or less as kills are worth multiple points.
>>333294354
>PG fags in charge of not being dickriders
>>333301469
Yeah I agree it's a LOT better in Bayo 2, extreme fun was had
>>333301394
dude that was Space Harrier
>>333294354
oh shit that looks just like the orochi fight in w101
>>333301314
The fuck is /m/? We have another board for manlets?
>>333301567
Well now I feel stupid. Oh well, it doesn't invalidate my point still.
>Cool dog fight that you can turn into a ground vehicle and shit
>Still no versus mode what so ever
I get more and more pissed about this as the days go by
>>333301528
Ssshhhhhh
>Star Fox Zero thread
>derailed yet again by Splatoon faggots
>>333297152
>>Wolf's voice acting
kinda bland
>>333301871
Derailed how? Starfox discussion is still going faggot
>>333301871
>>derailed yet again by "forced motion" shitposters
fix'd
>andross' theme sounds like his name is being chanted
>>333296819
Too bad.
Meme Fox 64 fans don't need pandering.
>>333301518
Thanks for ignoring my point almost entirely to shift to a different one, but still I have to ask - where are you getting that data from?
>>333301743
You know why there's no versus anon.
>>333292947
Doesn't he always have that though?
>>333301871
>Bitching about gyro controls you've never used
>"It's TOTALLY faster to bring up a map and move a pointer with the stick than it is to tap a touch screen once!"
>Game is shit because I can't use a controller it wasn't designed to use even though I actually can use it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgRR2oO9tVQ
Hey, the assault multiplayer stage!
>>333289576
Source
http://playeressence.com/early-previews-star-fox-zero-negative-controls/
Game journos don't like the controls.
>>333302124
The fucking internet
>>333301871
These:
>>333302031
>>333302152
Once we can all play the game then SFZ's controls can be judged on their own without uninformed shitposts, blanket statements, or having to drag Splatoon into it. So wait two fucking weeks.
>>333302152
It would be slower to bring up a map, but they could have just used a button combo to at least warp back to base (though in all honesty that might make it annoyingly too easy to warp out of danger)
However considering most super jumping is done right after a spawn, they could have let you choose the super jump point WHILE you are waiting to respawn.
Or you could just have the three names of your teammates at the bottom of the screen, and have a button that lets you toggle between them.
Professional game designers shouldn't have this kind of problem where one inconvenience completely stumps them to the point they have to completely rely on a second screen
>>333302360
Sounds to me like a repeat of the Splatoon controls: hard to master but GOAT once you do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsOEGPLa1Z4
>this plays when you tap the Fox amiibo
About fucking time the superior Star Fox soundtrack got it's due.
>>333302360
Calling it now, game will be great but journos won't bother putting the 30 minutes into learning the controls properly and will pan it for being too difficult.
This is why western AAA games are as safe, generic and simple as possible, so idiots don't bang their heads against the wall and call the game bad.
>>333302530
Source me please, as I can't find that info, probably because only a select few reviewers have the game and none have completed it
>>333302127
>Still no cool online versus mode like splatoon
>>333289576
>source: my ass
>>333302564
>why aren't they hindering an intuitive feature to appease my arbitrary needs?
>>333297896
>I hate gamexplain
Fixed
Who would ever like those fags
>>333291052
He's calling him "Star Fox" in a condescending manner. He's screwing with him, like he does.
>>333290793
You fuckers loved this shit in No More Heroes. Why is it different now?
>no multiplayer whatsoever
>even fucking Star Fox Command had multiplayer and that game was trash
>>333302564
Anything else would still be slower and less intuitive than simply tapping the touch screen. That's how the game was designed, you're going to get killed half the time looking at the map if you try to super jump at any time other than after having just spawned.
>Professional game designers shouldn't have this kind of problem where one inconvenience completely stumps them to the point they have to completely rely on a second screen
You're pulling that completely out of your ass to justify your dislike of the control scheme. Get over yourself, the game was designed this way because it's much more intuitive and faster than traditional stick controls.
I'm projecting and assuming here, but I really doubt you've actually played the game, or if you do you're probably very bad at it. Gyro controls are superior in every way to sticks, having map on a second screen is preferable to it either taking up space on the main screen or requiring you toggle between them.
>yfw that Dragon from SF2 shows up
>yfw Platinum designed escape sequence from Venom
>yfw it'snot the Falco amiibo, it's Bayonetta's
>>333303091
>he plays games for the multiplayer
SF0 has multiplayer anyway, just not competitively.
>>333302730
>Dual screen at 60 fps
>Online
>>333303091
The only good multi in SF was Assault.
>>333289546
TIME TO LEAVE THEM ALL BEHIIIIND
>>333303365
Splatoon right?
>>333289489
>Almost a year ago people were bitching about Zero being too slow
>Sector Gamma
Jesus fuck, can you say BTFO or what?
>>333303587
>an almost-static map is the same as actual gameplay on the gamepad screen
>>333303389
Which is why I'm disappointed that they don't want to expand on it.
Could you imagine that shit nowadays?
>>333302898
Because people feel the need to nitpick this shit when Nintendo does it.
>>333303278
>>points out having a second screen is a crutch for the designers
>the gyro controls are good!!
can you not read?
>>333303365
Fuck you anon.
I love the multiplayer in these games and so do all my roommates. The fact it dosent have it is a deciding factor of whether or not I wait for a price drop or not for this title.
>>333303762
Just imagine that Wolfen dogfight but as an online duel, where you can put custom taunts when you fly close by.
>>333302898
I still like it. Don't mind Miyamoto senseless haters.
>>333303930
goddamnit anon, now you made me sad something like that will never happen.
>>333302898
it was cool in no more heroes. If it's optional in zero then its cool too but to have every line of dialogue coming out of the gamepad is annoying. I just want a normal fucking game. It's like they're adding these features for the sake of adding them. It's like they realised that the gamepad doesn't really do all that much so they're shoehorning it in despite the fact it doesn't add anything to the game and could even be detrimental. Now like I said if its optional then it's a neat bonus but if it's forced then people have a right to be upset.
>>333289489
>Sector Gamma description says late game
>Boss is Attack Carrier
>lol are you kidding m-
>ALL RANGE MODE
Well then can't wait to see what they do with that
>>333304378
The voice comes out the gamepad for a reason - it's so you hear it in surround sound from it so you know where the voices are coming from.
>>333301430
I'll joke about whatever I damn well please, because if I do it enough it'll come true.
>>333294354
Man I really like platinum games, but platinum fans really are retarded.
>>333297413
But Slippy is canon Fox's bff, they were Academy roomies.
He'd go with Fox over dickbag Falco any day.
>>333305259
Slippy is tsun tsun for Falco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP4UD7dTWmg
I was hoping we would get another "all range mode" mission where we had actual friendlies flying around (ala the Katina mission in 64).
This looks pretty good.
> Phase 1 complete
That mean a boss fight follows?
Since it's basically a Platinum game, get yourselves ready for the usual criticisms for being a Nintendo and Platinum games
>Somebodies going to complain about the same being short despite the game being built around replay ability and branching paths
>Sombodies going to complain about the controls instead of learning and getting gud like Wonderful 101
did wolf just fucking die?
