>He thinks Dark Souls has a story
XD agreed my friend : ) have an upboat ! :D
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>>333269852
>He counters a non-meme with a meme
>>333269768
>doesnt read the lore
>geam has no story
Eyyup.
>Yeah man Dark Souls has amazing lore I've watched all of vaati's videos!
>>333270098
>irrelevant blabber
>>333270070
>Reading neckbeard wiki with imagined shit that doesnt pertain to the actual gameworld
>>333269768
Does it have a
>protagonist
>beginning
>middle
>end
>setting
>themes
>audience
Do you have some kind of mad outside-the-box definition of story that I'm just not getting?
>>333270070
Half of the "lore" online is headcanon
>story literally told in the first minutes of the game
>HURR NO STORY
>>333270193
>>333270070
>>333270195
R u for real ?
Play the game nigger
>>333270319
Lore is a bit more than just item descriptions, dipshit
Also story != lore
>>333270195
Paying attention to dialogue, item descriptions, characters and locations and doing a little critical thinking about it will give you a pretty good idea of the story. My first playthrough was blind, and I thought I had the plot figured out. Reading the wiki afterward only served to confirm my understanding. The lore is there, and those who paid attention can agree on most of it.
>>333269768
>He can't read
i like how the souls fanbase has created their own intricate backstory and lore from their own headcanon because the games provide them with next to nothing lol
>>333270381
>OMG guys, check it out! They're disagreeing with me! Losers!
>get killed
>get revived to kill demons
>candle waifu makes you stronger
>beat game to help candle waifu
That's the entire story for Demon Souls there is no lore
>>333270472
>Reading the wiki afterward
>>333270381
>>333270098
>>333269768
Illiterate fags
>>333269768
What the fuck is your problem?
>>333270523
>next to nothing
>hundreds of item descriptions
>characters outright telling you what's up
>opening cinematic explains the setting and initial plot thread
It's not that hard to follow.
>2 line vague description on an item
>whoa....amazing lore...how does miyazaki do it?
>>333270579
Your aversion to reading is troubling.
>>333270579
>le 'reply everything with a greentext of cherrypicked lines instead of making any real points' meme
Why do people think that a game needs lore to be good? Why do autistic headcanon faggots flock to the Souls games?
People play them for the gameplay, not the 2 sentence descriptions that get made into 10 minute youtube videos about lore
>>333270765
lmao. exactly
>>333269768
it has. tldr version:
>flame about to die out
>bitches made bootleg flame, got rekt
>Lord Gwyn link the flame, got rekt
>flame about to die out again
>you link the flame (or not)
>get rekt before, during, and after you link the flame
>>333269768
MUH DEEP LORE FLAVORTEXT ITEM DESCRIPTIONS
>>333270542
Not my my thread but your posts are shit without argument
>>333270193 -shitpost
>>333270070 >>333270628 - items have description about lore/characters but not story of chosen undead which is literally ring bells, talk to frampt, collect souls for vessel, chose ending.
>>333269768
Would the whole Earthen Peak to Iron Keep thing be acceptable if the elevator went down instead of up and the Iron Keep was a massive lava filled cave?
>>333270765
ugh. um, yeah no. enjoy your mario games, i guess? wow. i can't even right now. just eww. eww at your taste.
>>333270872
Because the lore and more importantly the way it's presented adds to the game and feels cohesive. The game would be good without anything beyond the intro and initial premise but that doesn't mean more indepth world building and lore isn't welcome.
>>333270921
>doesnt get that lore helps the player understanding the story, and that its part of the narrative
>>333270872
Games are played for their stories, not for gameplay. If the game has no story, you imagine one instead. That's how human mind works.
>>333270921
I didn't write these
>>333270193
>>333270193
>>333270628
And they are connected to the story of the chosen undead. It's not clear at the beginning of the game, but it all helps establish the setting and overarching plot (age of fire is ending). It all culminates in a very important event, linking the fire and extending this age, which is what the undead is called forth to do. He proves himself by ringing the bells, and then actually goes about linking the fire by collecting the souls of the lords who took their power from it, and then using them to refuel the flame (unless you choose the other ending, of course).
No one who's played the games will disagree on this.
>>333271046
like, oh mah gawd.
>>333270921
> the game has no story except for the story that the game has
>>333271286
>games
>played for story
>not gameplay
>>333271286
>Games are played for their stories, not for gameplay
The most popular gaming series including the Souls series have no story, people care for gameplay more than a shitty story. If I wanted a good plot I'd read a novel.
>>333271161
>Doesn't understand that story of this game can be told in 4 sentences
>>333271345
>story is just vague shit descriptions or some rare npc talks
>>333269768
Oh I am sorry. Should it have more long-winded cutscenes in which dense fuckers explain every little detail to you? Would that be more up to your speed?
>>333271008
Yes, it would.
>>333270872
>People play them for the gameplay, not the 2 sentence descriptions
Well here's a newsflash for you: You can play a game for more than one reason.
>>333271486
>Doesnt understand that the story of almost every game ever can be told in 4 sentences
>>333271486
Tell the entire story of Dark Souls without being a reductionist shit that ignores all the content. Go ahead.
>>333271486
>story of this game can be told in 4 sentences
I can tell you the story of Don Quixote in less than four sentences. Doesn't diminish the quality of the books (especially the second).
The vagueness of the story is exactly what made it so compelling. You don't really have any idea what's going on until the halfway point, and even then you're not told the whole truth. I actually didn't figure out what was truly meant by "linking the fire" until I actually did it in the end. But that's what kept me pushing onwards, despite getting frustrated and wanting to give up at some points. I wanted to see more, I wanted to understand the world and my character's place in it. If I knew most of that right off the bat, I probably wouldn't have cared nearly as much about completing the game.
>>333271835
>in the beginning, dragons
>but then the lords found the fire and used its power to kill the dragons
>everything was cool for a while, but now the fire's going out and everything sucks
>hey, that undead is pretty powerful, how much you wanna bet we can get that idiot to burn himself for fuel?
>>333272364
Congratulations, you're a reductionist that ignored all the content. You don't even know what a story is and need cutscenes full of exposition to spoon feed you.
>>333272364
1/4 of the story told. Try again.
>>333272364
Oh I can do it in even less.
>lords did stuff which was good but then bad
See it's even shorter and even shittier.
>>333272487
>>333272487
I'm not that guy, and I agree with you that Dark Souls has an awesome story, but I wanted to give it a try. I think that's pretty good for a 4 line summary, which is what he claimed it could be boiled down to. Anything else I could add is just the details, except for probably Kaathe, Manus and the the whole humanity is darkness thing.
>>333272752
A good résume would please me greatly.
>people arguing that a lore info dump is actually a story
>>333273138
refer to
>>333270238
>>333270381
You probably do need to git gud though?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LueVmefY_Kg
