So Vive is coming out today, right? Is GB going to stream the tests like they did with Oculus Flop?
>>333266139
>tfw you are in the 'maybe May' wave for Vive
Its gonna be a long wait.
>>333266139
Just like Oculus, its coming out to a few lucky folk while the rest of us who pre-ordered right when it went on sale and paid for express shipping are cucked.
I dont even have a shipping confirmation from those cunts.
>>333266331
Well at least you didn't end up in the May batch. I am not fussed its only a month away I'll dick around with dark souls 3 or something until then.
Hopefully that means delivery and payment goes smoothly.
>>333266321
I know that feel. Someone said I was third wave.
>>333266690
I'll have to call my credit card company in advance to prevent them from freezing my credit card.
>>333266139
Yeah the stream starts in just over an hour
Does this have a screen door effect like the oculus? Thats the one thing holding me back on it.
Cant i go to a samsung store and try one of these out or something?
Do they work with SLI?
>>333267217
Hmm I ordered with a visa debit card, they might end up outright rejecting it. I should've used PayPal.
Dealing with customs in Australia is probably gonna be a major pain in the ass as well.
>>333267330
I haven't used either, but they both have the same screen resolution and the Rift is reported to still have the screen door, albeit severely diminished to the point where you usually don't notice it.
>>333267330
Apparently the SDE is slightly more prominent on the Vive, but you get like 30% more FoV.
>>333267302
I wonder if they'll bring another 10 hours of anti-hype.
Theres more games to try but even more of those games are gimmicks and demoes.
>>333267731
There are no games I am hyped about, but I might grab these titles
>Vanishing Realms
>Quar: Battle for Gate 18
>Skyworld
>Babel Tower to the gods
>Legend of Luca
>Budget Cuts
>Pierhead Arcade
>Felt tip circus
>5089
>Jeeboman
>Space pirate trainer
>A10 VR
There are a few decent freebies up for grabs as well besides the bundled Job simulator
>Waltz of the Wizard
>Spell Fighter
>The Lab
Itching for some more RPGs, mech games, RTS with 3D positioning similar to homeworld, spehss building game similar space engineers with motion controls and planets.
Giant bomb vive stream in an hour, correct?
Yes, the stream is starting in almost exactly one hour.
>>333268468
Place your bets gentlemen
>>333266321
>tfw
Weeb games when? I'm afraid they'll see limited support because of their tiny apartments.
Can't wait for the shovelware.
Seeing their disappointment with OR games was hilarious.
What is GB?
>>333268415
I spent so much on the Vive im really stingy with whats left over.
Hover Cuckers is apparently the most fun but $35 is too much from the scale and production quality ive seen. Ill only buy it if the public servers are well run and populated.
>>333266139
I ordered 3 hours after launch because I was debating whether the Vive is worth $1370 CAD. Long story short, I'm in the 2nd wave which could be anywhere from the 6th-29th. Fucking should have just ordered the moment it went live.
>>333267330
SDE is nonexistent, you have to put effort in to even see the pixels.
>>333267731
Job Simulator and Tiltbrush were pretty damn fun when I tried them. I hope GB gives NekoVR a try, I'd like to see how good that one is.
>>333267731
>>333268415
>A10 VR
Do you have to actually push all those buttons?
If so, how does it handle the flight stick?
>>333268951
Well I am not expecting much early on, some better titles might pop out of the blue up by this years end. Once PSVR is released there might be a few higher budget multiplats for grabs.
Second generation onward is where it will likely gain traction but I do not have the patience to wait that long.
In the mean time there is porn, 3D audio, and some low budget titles and applications to fool around with.
>>333269348
I meant the arcade shooter similar to space pirate trainer, not an A10 thunderbolt flight sim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUOpUkt7bwg
>>333269183
I can't really see Job Simulator having lasting appeal. I mean, in Tilt Brush you create things. Job Simulator is just fucking around.
Does gmod or something like it support the Vive?
>>333268879
giantbomb
>>333269626
Modbox is the closest Gmod equivalent.
>>333268951
>pay $800+ for a useless device with no games
>b-but $35 for a game is too much
>>333269183
>SDE is nonexistent,
>>333267475
>still have the screen door, albeit severely diminished to the point where you usually don't notice it.
this is absolute nonsense. SDE is still there and still very prominent. the problem is mitigated by doing cartoony graphics and never letting people see too far away. you try something like project cars and everything in the distance is a pixellated mess.
>>333266139
>>333269856
Is that really SDE, as in seeing black lines between subpixels, or just generally the low angular resolution?
>using nvidia garbage gpus while reviewing vr headsets
>wondering why it so fuzzy looking and the movement onscreen unresponsive and delayed
>>333269368
I think porn and simulated big screen media will save it long term for me.
Spending years on streaming sites will hopefully render myself immune to the low quality.
>>333269291
Can't wait for the buyers remorse.
>>333270043
Oculus is literally sending reviewers PC's with a Nvidia GPU in it
>>333270031
sde. you need ~8k per eye to eliminate it.
we're not even close.
>Round 2.
V-VR will b-be impressive this t-time!!!
>>333270237
That doesn't even make sense. You could in theory completely eliminate the SDE at any resolution, by having a pixel fill factor of 100%.
>>333270325
>V-VR is the f-f-future.
>>333270325
Eh, I think those jaded fucks will be more impressed simply because the Vive stuff is less video gamey.
>>333270453
you'd have to switch to different display tech to achieve pixel fill factors that high.
>>333270557
I don't think it can get much less video gamey than all those Oculus VR movies they had to watch
Link to the stream? It's not premiumcucks only right?
>>333270557
From what I've seen Vive is able to make gameplay and VR go more hand in hand.
Oculous either has very gimmicky shit, or shit that you rather wanted to play without VR.
>>333270529
>he bought vr to play games
cuck
>>333268951
I am in a similar boat, don't want to waste money on shovel ware that will end up picking dust. Need to find some games with decent replay value.
I am willing to factor in around $100 to $200 on vidya depending on whether I pay for customs or not otherwise I'll have to be stingier.
I don't think I'd get much replay value out of budget cuts, its the same levels over and over. The game is fairly short for what it is worth as well. It is a pretty cool concept but it looks more like a tech demo than a full game.
The arcade shooters like a10VR and space pirate trainer look boring as fuck on video but apparently a lot of people have been digging it in VR. They Look like casual games that would have decent replay value.
The best on that list for me would probably be skyworlds, Quar, and Vanishing Realms.
Quar doesn't seem like it would be highly replayable unless there is multiplayer and skirmishing.
Skyworlds seems like your typical 4X which can have decent replay value.
And Vanishing Realms looks the most promising, it gives me a gothic 1 vibe for some reason.
5089 looks bland as fuck, but it seems to have reasonable depth and mechanics for what it is worth.
I am excited about spell fighter, it is a freebie tech demo and fairly short but looks fun as fuck to fool around with. I am curious to see if thumbstick locomotion is as bad as many people have been claiming it to be.
I'd hate to be limited to teleportation, or cockpits for locomotion. There are a few other techniques but they also detract from the experience. Best one so far is redirected walking though you'd need a large enough space and the application to know where you are headed prior to altering your trajectory.
>>333270661
They're not starting for another 20-30 minutes.
>>333271021
>the application to know where you are headed prior to altering your trajectory.
I think with a large enough space, it should be possible to make the player unable to leave it with his eyes open. But yeah, not really practical for home use.
>>333270028
why did you make a long webm with same footage repeating?
>>333269548
Jesus, I was so hyped for an A10 flight sim
>>333270043
AMD frame latency is too high and erratic, makes people sick.
>>333266139
Confidential
>The next revision will have curved screens
>less blue light
>better resolution
>possibility to use directports
>>333269626
The actual game engines. Source 2 is supposed to have a layer/level which is basically gmod - whenever the Valve Time on that finally runs out.
>>333271312
If you want an A10 flight sim, then try DCS.
It has native VR support. It had a motion controller support tag as well, not sure if they have implemented support for them yet but it would be cool flipping switches and levers with the vive controllers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abEnfiKjRZg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OknS2wfHi9E
It beginsSOON
>>333271021
Pollen might be good when it comes out. Been in development a bit longer than the other games and actually made an attempt at good graphics.
1000€ is a lot of money...
I'll pass for now
>>333271569
I wonder if you can turn the Vive's front camera into something like Leap Motion. That way you could use your hands to push buttons, but also use a HOTAS setup.
Alternatively there's always the option of strapping the leap motion sensor to the headset, of course.
>>333271784
I saw a webm once about this
>>333271784
That was probably their aim with the VDK1, it had 2 stereo cameras which would have allowed them to do something similar to leap motion and more.
But sadly they failed to deliver on that and reverted to a single camera lacking stereo. Still a huge boon for roomscale despite the offset with the modeled controllers up close.
>>333271784
I have a leap motion. After years of firmware updates, it still loses track of my hands too often to be practical. You need some kind of controller for good accuracy, it seems.
>>333272318
Really? I I heard Orion was a huge improvement.
>tfw no After Burner VR
>>333272386
At least if you mount the sensor on your head. And indeed, your palms tend to face away from your face, so your fingers are often too occluded.
If you combined input from both the headset's and lighthouses' cameras, then maybe you could do it.
>>333266139
Stream is up and starting soon
Twitch /giantbomb
>>333272697
Well Lighthouse doesn't even have any cameras so that's probably out.
But yeah in the long run I think you'll probably end up with cameras tracking your whole body.
>>333272697
lighthouse has laser sensor, no cameras
>>333271458
you are so stupid it fucking hurts.
>curved screens
useless for VR
>less blue light
??? by which you mean better color gamut? they're already very high gamut, of course they can get better but it's really a non-issue.
>better resolution
no shit.
>possibility to use directports
what? you mean a 'direct mode', some embedded solution to project a 2D image to a simulated 3D screen (without any software eg. Virtual Desktop)? or do you mean more ports on the HMD?
The CV1 Vive, at least, will last a while. Wireless will be the big upgrade but it will be an add-on, a small backpack/belt. Aside from that it has pretty much everything it will likely need for a decent life-span. CV1 Rift is a shitshow which will require a major, $200+ upgrade already, and shitty facebook will probably push a V2 sooner rather than later because they're stupid jews.
Big caveat is how long the impending SVO/vulkan/polycore rendering revolution is going to take to fall down on us, and how much more power these things will actually open up, if that would enable a higher resolution sooner than expected.
>>333272954
The Rift headset and the Vive headset are pretty much the same thing. And you'll notice that the Vive already costs 200 dollars more.
pretty epic video
http://store.steampowered.com/steamvr
https://youtu.be/2DJwNLT2E90
Based Fraggy does it again.
All the reviews are now coming out.
>>333272954
Hell for gentoo I would be content with 4K per eye with same FoV or higher, 3D grip haptics on motion controllers similar to tactical haptics, and built in leap motion that also acts a a front facing camera for roomscale.
Later on perhaps dwelve into projecting that image straight into your eyeballs, or utilize tech like light field displays once the hardware can handle it and decent software optimization techniques are developed with it in mind.
>>333273268
>vore shit
>>333266139
omg how much will it cost? I'm just a 3rd world poorfag.
it begins
What a time to be a Vive
get some eye tracking and i wouldnt mind playing something like mirrors edge or a horror game like PT
rts might work with it for that tabletop feeling gb talked about.
simulators/space combat things in first person maybe
anything third person, including sports or rhythm games or on-rails shit just isnt worth it.
games dont need to rely on VR to make the whole experience. just add enough to make it fun like the wii mote.
>>333273965
Why do you feel like you'd need eye tracking?
>>333273508
forgot eye tracking
>>333273674
A mere $799.00plus ship
shut up about space retard, play games
>>333273674
far too much. wait 1 or 2 years and see how it unfolds
sorry, as somebody who has not kept up to date with any of the VR stuff
what is the difference between Vive and Oculus?
>>333273965
People seem to like Lucky's Tale well enough.
Someone tell the fat fuck to play games.
>>333274337
cause a riot to make everyone spam "play game"
hashtag selfie tennis is just about the worst name I've heard
What Dota VR is he talking about
>>333274107
The Oculus is in cahoots with facebook and spies on you. Also it's crap.
Vive is in cahoots with Valve and has cameras on the front so you can see sgit without taking off your glasses. It seems more promising but I'm saving judgement until reviews come out.
>>333274745
Dunno but I can see a spectator type of thing that looks like a table top working.
Or maybe it's just another demo like the one in the shop.
>>333266139
>watching GB
Those cynical fucks literally hate everything. GB should just call it quits, they don't even like video games.
>>333274808
People have analyzed the Oculus Home traffic. So far it doesn't spy on you.
And the headsets are mostly the same shit, really.
>Need at least 2m of cubic space
What the fuck HTC thats larger than my room.
What household has this much space just lying around?
>>333274893
>t.still mad about two stars
>>333274918
Shhhh, don't try to use facts anon, valve drones don't understand them. You'll just make it angry.
Vive seems pretty cool, much better than Oculus, at least.
Oh, cool, it's the snaeffelsjökull. That's the volcano from that Verne novel, isn't it?
>>333275005
Do you fucking live in a closet?
Harry Potter, is that you?
>>333275005
Ya my house is cramped aswell. Lucky I still have a spare spaceship lying around to use for my epic VR adventures!
>>333274918
It's not fully analyzed yet
And the fact that it does stupid shit on a 30s timer alone is kinda not very nice
Together with no included motion controllers and inferior tracking tech I find the Vive much more attractive so far
>Valve magic
literal shills
I was hoping it would be unbiased like OR stream but this is going to be full Valve shilling.
>Venice
Neo-Venezia here I come.
I don't know why people want to start fights about these dumb headsets. They're practically the same, technically. Neither have a good selection of games. They're both overpriced for what they give you. They're both made by shitty companies that are a pox on games. If you are getting one enjoy the one you have the best you can, there's no need to mock someone for being just as stupid as you are for getting the other one.
>this is really cool
>guy just teleports around
>>333275246
>people are worried about Oculus spying on you
>still want Vive which uses Steam, a form of DRM that constantly monitors your usage.
I don't understand
>the president of SCE doesn't give a shit about platform wars
Why can't /v/ be as based as him?
>>333275395
The Vive has no cameras that could watch me masturbate
>>333275385
That's the secret about roomscale. It doesn't really add anything except for casual arcade games that are contained in your room's size. At the end of the day for actual locomotion in a large world, which is what most real games need, you are still going to end up standing and using shitty locomotion techniques like teleporting.
This shit's pretty funny
>>333275591
* Also Steam makes infinite money from game sales
They are not dependent on selling private user data
>>333275504
Because I don't have 2k $ leftover for gimmiks that I won't use.
>based as him
Ya he's so BASED dude lmao so BASED for buying stuff LMAO 420 dudde
>>333275591
Yeah, totally doesn't have a camera mounted on the fucking HMD.
I don't like Giant Bomb
>>333275796
It actually uses little photosensors that detect the flashes and the laser beams tbqh
>Playing 3d 2hu on this
>>333276131
yeah this thing does that aswell
>>333276378
I just started, did I miss anything important?
Xortex looks cool, don't know if I'd play it more than a few times, though.
>>333276424
Oh, that one isn't required for tracking though
You can just put tape over it
>>333276601
The lab is just valve made vr showcase stuff, don't think they're really meant to be played lots.
>>333276824
Is that all they've looked at so far? The checked off stuff on the whiteboard.
>>333276891
Yes
>>333276601
you missed the photogrammetry stuff, which is mindblowing.
>>333276601
>>333277293
Just use the youtube link and scrub back a little while they fuck around with the tennis game.
man enough of shitty selfie tennis already
This game looks so fucking shitty
>>333277827
Fuck, I know. This stuff was garbage on the Wii and it still looks garbage now
>>333270325
Have they taken off the Vive yet? Do red marks appear?
>>333279006
Tested says it putting more weight on your face so it's probably even worse.
