How did the Dark Souls series become such a huge seller? It's a low-to-mid-budget Japanese game.
>>333262253
Because its fun? I like playing as a big suited-up knight smashing fuck out of monsters.
Budget doesn't mean shit when the core is good.
Memes
Demon's Souls went through relatively unpopular, Dark Souls came and they memed it up with "le prepar to die this game is hardcore xDDDD" and the youtube shit generation latched onto it.
>>333262328
Dressing up my knight is the main reason I enjoy Dark Souls
Bloodborne was a big dissapointment with the Van Helsing/tentacles setting, no knights and very little fashion
they are good adventures also the phantom system is pretty unique
>>333262416
This
It's fun.
>>333262439
>they are good adventures also the phantom system is pretty unique
yeah. i love invading people and gank spanking is satisfying.
some of my favorite games were low budget. op is a AAA cuck.
Same way every other game released after 2010.
Epic mehmehs and/or aggressive marketing.
Because "muh hard game" memes and le memes, le praise de sun
>>333262253
Dark Souls 3 hasnt been doing amazing in Japan yet, only about 200,000 copies sold in the first week. It wasnt even #1 for first sales during its release weak (that would be DQMjoker 3)
Trendy faggots.
>>333262596
The games have never been doing great in Japan, it's always been the West
>>333262328
>>333262542
Platinum's games are fun too but games like Bayonetta, Vanquish and Wonderful 101 sold terribly (which is why they moved onto licensed shit)
>>333262328
>>333262542
Fun has nothing to do with it, it's not determinant, there are countless fun games that never reach popularity.
>>333262373
>>333262416
>>333262574
>>333262591
Are right
The modern gaming industry fails to produce good, fun games, so when a good fun game does come out, it gets its dick sucked for half a decade.
>>333262253
E-celeb happens
>tfw you realize Dark Souls is the 50 Shades of Grey of video games
>>333262253
Because 'hardcore' gamers memed it into popularity.
>>333262685
>Fun has nothing to do with it
>>333262653
platinum is overrated
>"It's bad because it's popular!!!"
Wow /v/ what a great, thoughtful and imaginative criticism
>>333262596
Dark Souls games sell fine in Japan, but they sell disproportionately well in the West.
>>333262565
There are plenty of good niche low-budget games, but they rarely break out in the west. I mean, when was the last huge new Japanese non-Nintendo franchise?
>>333262253
>4 entries
>8.5 million sold copies
>huge seller
One of these things does not fit.
it is a very vocally popular niche game, nothing more, nothing less.
Most people don´t care about it.
Huge sellers start with multiple millions on a single title in the launch week.
>>333262328
>Because its fun
Fun is meaningless as a descriptor if the concept behind the game does not sound fun to completely clueless people.
>you are a dude that fights other dudes and even a minor fuck up will kill you again and again and you´ll lose all your money, and other people can enter your game and hunt you
This does not sound like an enjoyable prospect to anyone that is not familiar with the peculiarities of the games.
>Budget doesn't mean shit when the core is good.
Budget means marketing, marketing means units sold. Big budget games sell considerably on marketing alone.
Except when they make commercials as weird and off putting as bloodborne.
>>333262253
it got shilled by sony fans first and then in general by all 360 generation CoD players as "hardcore" and "musthave" game
>>333262804
Nobody said that, nigger poster.
>>333262804
Who said that?
>>333262790
Yeah, fun has nothing to do with it, not to mention it's subjective. Only 3 things reliably sell games:
>graphics
>marketing
>memes
>>333262808
>I mean, when was the last huge new Japanese non-Nintendo franchise?
starless
>>333262813
2 entries and 2 expanded rereleases.
And a million is huge for this sort of game.
>>333262253
People like to feel as if they are "hardcore gamers" for being able to beat it after dying 500 times
People suck ass. Souls games are easy
Will the success of Dark Souls lead to the glorious return of Ninja Gaiden?
>>333263312
I like to think its because the bosses the loot the areas and the leveling but you are probably right
Pretty much every thread starts about some difficulty with something
>>333262253
Because it was different and unique unlike the torrent of samey AAA shit the games industry spews out year after year.
>make good game
>it sells well
>>333262253
Start Download, OP.
I just hope Dark Souls 3 has good covenants and online invasions again.
DS2 had soul memory and BB was a complete joke in terms of covenants and invasions.
Please don't fuck this up.
>>333263616
>make good game
>fill for bankrupcy
As if that hasn't happened before, probably more times than your case, even.
>>333262813
2 entries, it said Dark Souls which wouldn't include demons and bloodborne.
>>333262253
8.5mil for a AAA game is abysmal. That means they barely covered dev and publisher costs.
Generally (but not always) they need to sell roughly 12mil units to be considered profitable.
>>333263932
They're talking about Prepare to Die and Scholar of the First Sin like they're separate games.
Because they're an idiot.
>>333262253
I think it's 95% word of mouth about its difficulty. It's a supply and demand thing. The vast majority of AAA games today coddle you so just being one of the very few alternatives to that is a selling point to a good number of people.
Having a good style to all the creatures and equipment certainly doesn't hurt either. I think most of the people who are into it want a difficult game with good graphical fidelity.
>>333263957
9/10, good trolling, had me for a second
>>333262253
Being able to make significantly different characters + high skill ceiling.
>>333263829
>Lords of the fallen
>good
Pick one
>>333262790
So you're honestly saying that every game that is fun will sell millions of copies?
>>333262804
Dumb niggerposter
Quality game with unique online features plus youtubers
>>333263957
The majority of a typical AAA game's budget will go to marketing. I don't think that's really a fair way to break it down since I'd wager the marketing for Dark Souls has been a fair bit lighter than a typical AAA American game.
>>333262253
I'm to fascinated by that ad to think of anything else.
Who actually just starts a download because a giant button tells them to download in three easy steps?
They wouldn't make ads like this unless people were clicking on them right?
>>333262253
meme magic
Because, as it turns out, people don't want games that are so easy they play themselves as if they were movies. People greatly enjoy playing video games and all the challenges that come with it.
>>333262416
DeS became a Greatest Hits relatively quick.
But it was also a free PS+ game. A lot of people played it and that's why Dark Souls got so much attention.
>>333263829
LotF lacked depth and the boses were shit.
>>333262253
Autism. Autism everywhere.
>>333263829
>complete edition
what an age we live in. And people still think piracy is wrong.
>>333263392
Ninja Gaiden died the moment the old director was canned for being rapey.
>>333264658
How did autism get everywhere? It used to be an obscure disorder
>>333264735
Feminine school system.
>>333264735
When people like something I don't I call them autistic.
>>333264220
You know whats really weird? Those sites you get shit off of when its too low-key for torrents, like ebooks, mods, game patches, that sorta shit. The knockoff rapidshits. There's a billion of them and they always have some bullshit about "Pay a fuckton of money to download the three files we have that you actually want at regular speeds!" How the hell do they make money off this? They give out free hosting to anyone who signs up! Nobody actually pays for that shit, so how do they keep the servers online?
>>333264697
Uhh, haven't complete GOTY editions been around since, like, Half-Life?
>>333264718
Is that the Devil's Third guy?
>>333264773
Advertising, same as most porn sites.
>>333264773
Bandwidth is cheap these days, you only need like 1 person out of 10k+ to make money
I used to subscribe to Rapidshare back in the day when it used to the host everything. Shit was so cash.
>>333264842
Can you actually make dosh advertising in this day and age? Everyone on earth has Adblock.
>>333264220
I usually click them by accident when trying tk download something else.
>>333264904
Most people still don't use it actually.
A lot of people don't know about that kind of thing.
>>333264937
Its the worst when you're on some odd site to get the one file you need to make an old game work, and there's like fifteen download buttons flashing at you, and the real one is just text a few shades darker then the background in 12 point font.
>>333263829
dunno the generic bald guy kills any interest I might have had in the game.
>>333265016
Most of those fake buttons are hidden if you use adblock.
Well made, good games get positive word of mouth which boosts sales past the effects of regular marketing.
>>333263829
I thought LoTF was, well it was the best "ok" game iv played in awhile. Id did a lot right though, the designs were great except for the enemies who all looked like sickdark diablo shit, and the BEEFY MCLARGEHUEG protagonist. However the world design and architecture was excellent.
But above all, that weighty fucking combat, good christ swinging my hammer felt so damn satisfying.
>>333262253
>How did the Dark Souls series become such a huge seller?
>The WHOLE SERIES sells as much as one AssCreed title
topkek
>>333262813
Well at that time the budget for the game developement for Demon's Souls was slightly smaller than Armored Core or an Ace Combat budget with barely any marketing so breaking even was not that hard and the cult success convinced Bamco to publish Dark Souls which had better marketing and slightly larger budget.
>>333265824
>original game was only expected to sell about 50k copies in NA and go offline 6 months later
>>333262253
8.5 mil really isent that good for an entire 4 game series each Cod game sells like 2 times that in one week alone.
>>333263745
>fill the money for bankruptcy
>must make good game to get $$$ to fill
>>333266153
Why is everyone treating Prepare to Die and Scholar of the First Sin as though they're new games and not cash-in expanded rereleases? How much extra do you think they cost to develop?
>>333266153
>Comparing ANYTHING to CoD
>>333262253
>8.5m
>big
>>333263745
http://gematsu.com/2016/04/gal-gun-publisher-alchemist-files-bankruptcy
>>333266427
8.5m across two games is a fuckton. These are not AAA games with $50m budgets.
>>333264481
>free PS+ game
that was only after Dark Souls became big though.
also
>PS+ was even that big a deal until about 2 years ago
not as many people had it because it was optional.
I remember my first hearing of Demon's Souls was on Zero Punctuation and Yahtzee did a funny review when it was released that was all about how hard it was.
I would have completely forgotten about the series after that if he hadn't done his Dark Souls review after years of it being out. I haven't actually played any of the games still.
>>333266631
PS+ had like 3 million subscribers before the PS4 mandated it, didn't it?
I know it nearly tripled after the PS4 launch.
>>333266974
Yeh but around 2011 when Dark Souls was released PS+ was only dishing out PS1 classics and indieshit.
[spioler]it's now gone full circle[/spoiler]
>>333265245
Thats the weird thing: I do. They still show up, the bastards.
>>333267215
If only.
All we get is 8bit garbage now. Leave that shit for the Vita.
>>333267570
I'd take PS2/PS1 games over what we get now.
>>333262253
Bandai is filthy rich.
>Dark Souls reaches 9M
>Naruto reaches 11M
>Tales reaches 20M
Not to count the rest of their licensed shit
