What is the least casual approach to Dark Souls III? It's rolling deprived with all points poured into luck, right?
>>333257547
Strength and magic builds generally.
There is luck stat in DS3?
>>333257571
>magic builds
>>333257639
Magic is fucking garbage in DS3 compared to earlier. Its actually easier to complete the game as a str character.
>>333257571
what? i rolled faith str in both games and had a blast, got a little bit stuck on velstadt tho but the rest was magnificently easy
>>333257547
>ever putting points in meme luck after DeS
>>333257681
>magic is garbage
>str is good
Sounds like my kind of souls finally, how are pyromancy and miracles?
>>333257681
WE
WE
WE
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>>333257681
Isn't that because of a bug though? From what I gather, Sorceries and Miracles aren't scaling properly at the moment.
>>333257681
wasn't magic garbage in ds2 too
Thoughts?
Expectations
Hopes?
?Nightmares?
Freshbeats
Nujabes/
Adult Swim?
>>333257958
Miracles are kind of garbage on a spell by spell basis but they are scaling the way they were always supposed to. The only people who are butthurt right now are hybrid retards who can't have half of the screen worth of health bar, wear armor AND kill enemies in 1.5 casts.
>>333258012
Miracles were idiotically good at the launch of DaS2. Early on clerics combined decent defense, fast rolls, that stupid ass mace that raped armored enemies from the get go AND miracles that did, like, 70% to bosses in 3 uses.
>>333257769
Pyromancy (and all other magic it seems) are mana based now. not sure how I feel about that.
>>333258384
Pyromancy was stupidly easy to spec into in DaS though, fucking annoying when you're having a really good fair fight with someone and when they feel a bit pressured they can just break out the black flame.
What's the most casual approach in Dark Souls 3?
>>333259868
Strength build with an ultra greatsword.
>>333257639
>>333257681
Guess it depends on the player. I always found the games easy mode with pure str build, but only ever got ganbanged trying to wave magic sticks
>>333257571
>least casual
What I go with the usual Pyro-Knight in 3? USG with short sword sidearm and pyromancy.
>>333257547
>mommy mommy look I just beat this game and it was real hard!!!
>>333257681
So what you're saying is all builds but pure magic is for babies right?
>>333261646
No. We just find challenge more stimulating. No need to be mad, son.
>>333257958
Spells and Miricles have inverse diminishing returns, so the first 20 levels give almost no benifit, then it starts getting better scaling and after 50 it gets huge bonuses for each point.
It's how the Arcane Hunters Tools worked in Bloodborne, it was worth taking Arc to 99 because they still scaled well all the way to the end.
It makes early-game a bit of a pain (but it's easy enough to go through with low stats and INT/FAI scaling weapons work like STR/DEX) and makes hybrid builds much less viable, but really Mages should not be able to wear heavy armour and fast-roll while also having lots of health.
>>333262774
>Artificially challenging yourself
Why did it take Dark Souls 3 of all games for you to do this?
>>333263045
>he's never self-imposed any challenges
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>333262437
yeah thats probably the reaction of most players to the news
>>333262926
This is how it should be, and I hope it remains that way.
Does anybody know how weapon arts function? They use mana, but doesn't that mean if you want to use weapon arts, you're investing in a stat that nothing else will benefit from?
>>333257765
>what is the blueblood sword
As someone who only played Bloodborne whats the Soul's equivalent of a Vitality/Strenght build?
>>333263453
A normal strength build?
>>333263453
using a great or an ultra weapon
pretty sure the stats are literally named that
>>333257547
Trying to be the least casual is actually pretty casual. It basically screams "I'm 14 and I think I'm hardcore for playing Dark Souls"
>>333263453
A Vit/Str build.
>>333263365
What do you mean?
Attunment increases your mana pool (called "Focus Points) and grants additional Attuntment slots every couple levels. If you are planning on only using physical weapons but want to make extensive use of Weapon Arts then investing a little in ATT might be worth it, but as long as you arnt spamming certain weapon arts that cost heaps of FP you won't need a lot. Just carry 2-3 Ash Estus flasks to refill if you want to use them lots.
Intelligence and Faith are different stats which increase the damage on spells and magic weapons. Don't level these at all if you don't want to use magic or magic weapons.
>>333263714
Not really, some people just don't want to accidentally play the game with the easiest build for the first time.
>>333263445
Actually there's an entire weapon path that scales off luck. With a "hollow" gem you can turn any regular weapon into Luck scaling.
Luck also affects how much damage poison/bleed damage your weapons do, so a Hollow infusion of a weapon with inate bleed can be viable.
>>333263559
>>333263614
>>333263736
But is itFun and Good?
>>333263843
I was wondering if there was a negative side to increasing my overall mana to get more from weapon arts, or if they were just wasted levels. It seemed strange to have a stat linked to something a melee build would want to use, but otherwise wouldn't benefit from.
>>333264091
How the fuck do we know what you find fun dickweed?
>>333263045
Found the neet.
>>333264091
Try it and find out you stupid faggot.
>>333264091
It's a pretty common thing, so try it.
>>333264091
Most people dont like ultra weapons at first cause they are slow
But yeah its fun they kill fast and if they didnt 1 shot something they probably did stun it
>>333264097
> It seemed strange to have a stat linked to something a melee build would want to use, but otherwise wouldn't benefit from.
I still have no idea what you mean. There's no negative affect from any stat except wasted levels.
Vigor, Endurance and Attunment increase your Health, Stamina and Mana, respectfully. What you level depends on which bar you feel you need more of, Red, Green or Blue. None will directly increase your damage, just let you get hit more, attack more in quick succession, or use more spells/weapon arts.
Strength, Dex, Inteligence and Faith are needed to meet the requirements of weapons and spells and increase their damage through scaling.
>>333264245
They've sped them up quite a bit in 3, been watching people pvping and theres just tons of fume ultra great swords because without a massive investment in HP they pretty much 1-2 shot people at SL120.
>>333264706
Is there any armor set that's highly used by many?
I haven't seen much of DS3. Is there more variety in movesets compared to DS1 and 2? I don't want every greatsword in the game to have the exact same moveset aside from an R2 or something.
>>333264569
Sorry, I'm tired and in pain, I don't think I'm articulating myself properly. I didn't mean to add "or if they're wasted levels", I was trying to say that them being wasted levels would be the negative.
If I want a melee build, and want to use weapon arts, is it worth investing any levels in Attunement, considering I won't be using the unlocked slots for spells? Do weapon arts drain the bar quite quickly?
I know almost nothing about DaS3, I'm just wondering if focusing on weapon arts as a playstyle is viable. Also, can you 'trigger' weapon arts during attacks, like transforming attacks from Bloodborne?
>>333262926
As a mage-lover in every RPG game, I fucking love this.
I hated Dark Souls 1 and 2 because it was TOO easy to play as a mage.
Thanks From.
>>333257547
ALL I WANT IS FOR A BOW BUILD TO BE VIABLE
>>333263045
>not artificially challenging yourself
You might as well say "why play video games" because playing video games is doing exactly that.
>>333265395
It is viable. You're like a ninja.
It's hard though.
>>333265262
>If I want a melee build, and want to use weapon arts, is it worth investing any levels in Attunement
That depends entirely on your playstyle. If you aren't using weapon arts, then obviously not. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
>>333265395
Bows are significantly faster to fire and their projectiles move much faster in general so they're much better in 3.
>>333265487
I'm fine with that. I just want to be a quick nigger that has to maneuver to get shots off. But can also go slow and pick off enemies fro far off.
Bosses will be rough, maybe.
>>333265506
Thank you, anon.
>>333259868
Farron Greatsword, which is the weapon that makes you spin around and stun lock people
It's the santier's spear of DaS3, along with the Fume UGS
>>333257547
Deprived actually is pretty casual as you don't need to think about your points much. They're shit for builds and min-maxing so it's kinda the brain-dead class once you get a good weapon.
I have to ask. Anyone knows if coop play is as fun as in Dark Souls II: SoTFS?
I played all games single, but then with two friends, we always make party-builds (Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres for example) and we love to play together. SoTFS was the best in that, fun covenants, huge builds variety, coop maps (DLC), the fucking belfry.
Is there anything like that in Dark Souls III?
>>333265923
What kind of retarded question is that? It's literally the exact same co-op mechanic.
This thread is fucking pitiful, can none of you faggots think for yourselves anymore?
>will i be ok pressing the heavy attack buttons vee?
>>333266043
His friends could go grape for the shenanigans but they couldn't help with bosses.
>>333257571
I was gonna play a Paladin anyway. Hmm...
>There's a luck stat in Dark Souls 3 you can dump points into
This is news to me. I always max this shit in games just to see what happens.
I never liked being slowed down. Im gonna roll a medium armor quality build. I like having the ability to maneuver in combat. for my second playthrough im gonna do a Sans build
>Only sorcery and dodging, low health, high int, high attunment and high endurance,
>>333265506
I don't know the extent of Weapon Arts at all. Either you're missing my question still, or I'm in a state of delirium where I think I'm saying something different here.
Assume my playstyle will be using a lot of weapon arts. Is that a bad idea, or do WA not require much mana on average, meaning I could clear a stage with it active with a melee class and its starting mana bar size?
I'll give up asking for the specific details of weapon arts because you seem to ignore them.
>>333266530
Not all weapons have the same art or the same cost. This depends entirely on the weapons you want to use and how much you use the arts. How are you finding this confusing?
>>333266642
Because I've made an effort to avoid the majority of infromation regarding DaS3, learned about weapon arts, and figured I'd ask here because it seemed like a simple question that somebody struggled to answer properly. I don't know if mana restoring items are easy to come by, I don't know how much mana is required for weapon arts, I don't know if weapon arts act like weapon transformations from BB. So I was trying to ask a question in a specific way to get a specific answer.
>>333264018
How early can you get this type of weapon? The BBS build was the most fun I had playing through DeS because you got way more drops from enemies.
>>333266642
Nigga's trying to get an estimate. As a purely physical warrior who uses weapon arts here and there, how useful is ATT?
Example, if you were to longsword it up the whole game, would the starting FP bar work, or would you feel limited?
Is it like DaS2's ADP, where dumping a few points into it is helpful for everyone, or only if you really like using weapon arts?
>>333257547
Luck is overpowered AS fuck. Poison resin on a max uchigatana and a high luck value oft around 50 will poison and bleed anyone with 80 resists. Scaling works a lot different now. Once you hit about 45 oft a stat gains are exponential for every third point.
>>333267560
That depends entirely on the weapon you're using and how much you use the art. I've already said that twice. Weapon arts are unique, some of them are buffs, some of them are projectiles, some of them are strong attacks. All of them have their own costs.
>>333267669
Do you know how good blessed weapons are?
>>333267669
Does it work well in pve or mostly a pvp thing?
So, out of curiosity, is there a ring that regenerates mana like Demons? I mean, we've had HP regen items and rings, which I assume are still in, so is there a mana one now (again)?
>>333268649
There's rings that reduce consumption, increase restoration with flasks and one that restores FP when you do a critical attack.
>hey vee, wuts the meta for this game thats not out yet
Fucking shitters the lot of you.
>blessed weapons regen hp>hp regen ring>hp regen shield
This is getting interesting.
>>333266043
So there's a belfry luna and sol, and rat covenant?
Thanks anon! :)
Am I the only one who always has a stamina bar longer than hp in souls games? All I ever see here are pics with a health bar taking up half the screen. You don't get hit that much, do you?
>1 week
>>333270582
Why do you think everyone has such a boner for poise?
I've never tried a slow ass two-handed str build in souls, is it gonna be gud?
>>333270582
I'd love to be a dex flipping stamina guy but I'm always shit at it so i usually end up padding with stamina and using a halberd or something.
That old hag in ds2 must have been rich because i spend more than half my fortune on throwing daggers. I literally cannot function without them.
>>333257547
LOINCLOTH
PHYSICS
>>333271998
yes it is very fun and actually quite easy as you do a shit load of damage
I've never used magic in a souls game, should I go with pure int on my first go?
>>333271998
You're going to have to learn how much reach you have but you're going to deal a bunch of damage.
how viable is dual Caestus?
it was easily my most fun run of dark2, though i could never finish any of the DLC
>every mob one shots you
seriously? is anyone having fun playing this? im at place right after that gimicky giant skeleton boss with the bracelets and everything feels like a chore.
>>333272336
>these guys on a caestus character
literally the embodiment of hell
>>333272336
Ok, need a source.
>>333271998
i'm playing str like i usually do and am having a much harder time than in any other souls game. the speed of every single enemy is way too high when they take 66% of your health away with a dex weapon and a 35 hit combo.
>>333272528
>still haven't gotten good at parrying after all these souls games
A lifetime of struggle.
>>333257958
How're hexes?
Im playing almost exclusively with the cestus. They made it amazing in this game
>>333272762
>getting good at a meme mechanic
not worth the time
>>333272696
how?
>>333272975
4chan-x dot net
>>333266796
Weapon arts vary greatly, some are a powerful attack that uses a small (5-10%) amount of your mana bar, others are temporay buffs that use varying amounts, some can be chained together for a series of very powerful attacks but burn through your whole bar quickly (the Dancers twin swords let you spin around seemingly for as long as you have FP).
You restore FP with Ash Estus flasks, which work identically to regular Estus Flasks. In DaS3 you can choose how to divide your Estus. If you have 10 total, you can have 10 Health Estus and 0 Magic Estus, 5/5, 4/6, 9/1 or any combonation you want.
If you are confidnat in your ability to not need healing then you can carry loads of Ash Estus and spam powerful weapon arts. Or you can use them sparingly and have lots of healing avalible to you.
>>333272431
Have you tried leveling Vigor?
And honestly, I do beleive you are exagerating. Even in Bloodborne with 7 fucking vitality getting 1-shot didnt happen too often unless you were counter-hit.
>>333272336
Pretty cool actually
Basically the caestus is a single weapon, and instead of duel weilding it with triangle, it turns into two caestus(es?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzZOubkiP2U
>>333274508
Haven't seen much of it yet, this game really is just bloodborne
what does the weapon art do? some sort of poise damage buff?
>>333275932
The uploader said it's a poise buff to the user.
>>333268954
>blood rapture is back
OH BABY
Does the game give you the material to respec at least once without having to invade?
>>333269707
You want an immortal knight build don't you anon?
>>333277016
You got one?
>>333276776
There's a covenant that lets you respec a number of times per plsythrough.
>>333277167
Nah, but thanks to you I'm makingDuncan Mcleodwhen I get this game.
>>333257547
Do females actually look female again? They looked terrible in DaS II
>>333276776
Five per playthrough/character by becoming a finger
>>333257571
>Magic build
>Anything but game-breakingly easy
wew
>anti twink measure will cripple and destroy low and mid level communities
game is trash fampai
>>333277194
>>333277926
What I'm asking is if enough of the covenant items are found by exploring to be able to respec once.
>>333278596
What measures are there?
>>333278756
Pretty sure you can farm covenant items from enemies, like in DaS
>>333277809
probably not
I remember in souls games the females have wide as fuck shoulders
>>333257547
STR/FAITH bitches.
>>333278756
Having a quick look at the wiki and giving a spoiler-free summary, there are at least two available in the game world, and can also be farmed from an enemy (high rarity).
>>333278842
It's SL and your weapon's upgrade level.
>>333257547
>What is the least casual approach to Dark Souls III? It's rolling deprived with all points poured into luck, right?
> least casual approach
Not coming here asking for advice or watching any trailers. Go in blind you stupid cunt
>>333278842
say if you are level 10 with a + 5 weapon. bam you are only matched up with people with +5s in your summon range.
once you make an upgraded weapon you are stuck in the braket. even if you drop it
ive never made a build over level 60
im shit outta luck cause my player pool is going to be so small, coop or invading
>>333279115
Ouch, but that doesn't sound too bad overall, means you can still 'twink' if you don't go too far.
>>333279115
and what i mean by small i mean non existant in a month after launch. the wait times are going to be fucking massive.
>no more twinking and smashing in groups of cooperators
>no more dragging unsuspecting cooperators into surprise ng+
>>333279115
Is there no range with upgrades as there is with level? +5s can't be matched with 4s nor 6s?
>>333279460
i belive it goes
no upgrades
1-3
4-6
7-10
its still god awful for low to mid levels
>>333279115
>>333279460
>>333279576
What about boss weapons that can only go to +5 like moonlight greatsword?
>>333279848
no clue but probly an adjusted scale
Anyone know how Sharp and Heavy upgrade paths work?
Specifically, is something like a Sharp Estoc or Heavy Greatsword going to be better for a pure DEX or STR character than their plain upgrade paths
>>333279576
Ah, that makes sense. Depends on materials.
>>333279848
I imagine +1 = +2, 2=4, 3=6, 4=8, 5=10. Just guessing.
>>333280232
I would think so, yeah.
>>333280232
The description says it increases scaling, so it should be better than normal path.
Who /100 LCK 1 INT/ here?
>not playing the first playthrought as a sword and shield sunbro.
What is fucking wrong with people
>>333280810
Idiot Savant please go.
>>333280810
I am tempted for a luck build since i love luck even if it's useless in some games.
>>333279115
>>333280260
It's been tested and it's +/- 1 Tier range. That means +4s can be invaded by +9s which is fairly generous. It only protects +3s but you can still twink them with +6 weapons.
>>333257769
Strength isn't good, it's the same.
Magic is just much shitter
>>333274047
do you have any webms with katana sword art???
>>333257547
Luck actually has an upgrade path so luck is a viable stat, probably going to be hard as fuck but still viable.,
How's the Claymore this time around? Disappointed by it in 2
>>333257547
>get luck to 40
>fully upgrade Anri's Straight Sword
>r1 becomes your nuclear option
Luck is too casual senpai
I may as well ask this
Is the game going to kick you offline if you use party chat like in DS2?
>>333274047
Thanks, Anon.
>>333282431
Does the stat itself affect combat in any capacity?
All right, gang. Are you going to be sweet or sour grapes?
>>333283128
I think it's the same as in DaS moveset wise but I could be wrong.
So are weapons in this game more like BB in the sense that there are fewer but all of them are unique or are there lots of weapons that share arts and movesets?
>>333278995
>stunlocking and buffs
>least casual
>>333257881
technically there's 5 kings
What's the word on infusions? Are there more? Can you infuse weapons and get decent scaling as an int/faith character like in DaS2?
How is the magic variety across the 4 different types?
How viable is it to play a pure caster this time around in the game? Even with Ashen flasks and what not do you still have enough FP to get through areas?
>>333257547
Speedrunning.
It's like autism^2 you will be further from reality and normies than you could ever imagine
Typically I'll go light-roll, light-armor, heavy weapon in Souls. How is that this time around?
>>333262926
It's a bug dumbass.
Crystal chime for example scales correctly and is one of the few tools that do. Pyromancy flame as well.
>>333287265
sorcery is fucking garbage until the last quarter of the game, pyromancy is god-tier all throughout the game
>>333265264
Bows have always been viable
Get good fag
>>333289509
Great. I bet sorc is nothing but a hundred boring variations of soul arrows too isn't it? Might go pyro afterall unless miracles are any good? Heard they're partially shit but the actual support spells are still good.
>>333289976
miracles are good as a supplement to physical builds but they do awful damage. Sorc has a couple new interesting spells but nothing too fancy, Pyro is more fun IMO
>>333290129
Need to go full int-faith to get the most out of it, right? Is pyro FP hungry or is it efficient enough to get you through an area?
>>333290550
40-40 int/faith. you need to split your flasks 50/50 or so between hp and fp, and use melee weapons on easy enemies
>>333264091
Fun and good are just buzzwords for games with shit quality and no substance.
Does Pyromancy depend more on equipment or stats in this game?
>>333291107
Pyro is like hex in DaS2. Int+faith scale
>>333290840
Thanks for making me a bit dumber for reading this post. Seriously my IQ just went down a few points because of you
>>333285520
Depends on the host
>>333277016
That was my Demon Souls build.
Adjudicator Shield + 5
Blessed Halbred + 5
Ring of Regeneration
Second Chance + Regeneration miracles.
fun as shit.
Does it have a story this time or is it the Same shit as the last 3 games?
>>333290840
Lol u fucking retard
