Looking to play games at 1080p 30/60fps and to emulate PS2 games.
Where can I cut corners because $600 is literally double my budget..
Is there anything I don't need? Please help vee
This is my first gaming PC btw
>>333246975
not bad :)
>>333246975
>$600
Don't bother, not worth it.
>>333247317
No seriously though lmao
I thought you could build a gaming PC for like $300 if you wanted console-like performance.
What am I doing wrong please tell vee
>>333247414
But I need a new PC quite desperately, my old one just broke and I'm laptop posting at the moment, this laptop is basically dead at this point.
Looks decent, might want to switch from Seagate to another brand though.
>>333247645
Okay I will try that and then try to find some deals on the parts
Would this be considered a low end pc?
>>333246975
Get the r9 380 from Sapphire, good card and costs only about 200
>>333247736
I'd say it's medium.
Why do this? Don't bother buying a shit pc that will perform poorly. Buy a console which will do the job more comfortably.
>>333247736
Well yeah but enough to play ps2 games and modern games on low-mid settings.
Can i3s even do ps2 emulation?
>>333247929
Dont listen to this fag
>>333247929
I don't want to buy consoles man but since I've been playing games at low settings for years I am okay with it but this build is too expensive
>>333248026
This is what I'm scared about
>>333248026
Why not?
Buy a used workstation like
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkStation-S30-Xeon-E5-1620-3-6GHz-12-GB-500-Win-7-Nvidia-Quadro-600-/272160249921
and replace the graphics card.
>>333248121
Then why upgrade? If you want to do PS2 at 4x the quality you need 8x the power minimum. Plus you still won't be able to run a bunch.
Personally I can't even understand what people are playing these days. Last exclusive I got was Civ V or Shogun 2 or something.
>>333247547
i3 will drag it down
any free motherboard is good, I wouldn't go with micro atx though, but that's just me I guess
seems like you're overpaying for the memory, I don't live in the US and you didn't provide a like to the build so I can't tell for sure
a few years ago I saw a graph that showed failure rates for different hdd manufacturers, iirc seagate had five times higher rate than western digital
if it's not your first PC, then why not use its case for the new one? if you don't have an old case and really feel like cutting corners, you can build it without a case at all.
psu is certified and is not from a no name company, which is good enough
I'll let you look up benchmarks for gpu and cooler
>>>/g/
>>333248421
>provide a like
*a link, of course
>>333248326
>Then why upgrade
Because my PC literally just broke today and I am laptop posting at the moment and this thing is old and lags when just using IE.
I wanna go PC because its more cost effective and for the PS2 games mainly pleas help
>>333248421
Okay I have taken note of the Seagate memory and will change that asap.
And about the case that is a good idea, my current one is worn out but I guess it will do.
And thanks for the advice. I'll try see if there are relevant threads on /g/ to post to. I don't know hwo to post the link to my build
For emulation get an i5 at least. I used to have an i3 2120 and upgraded it to an i5 3570k The performance in PS2 emulation was going from choppy to stable. Then it also depends on your graphics card. I can't speak for AMD so try others.
>>333248763
How dose the PS3 Cell CPU hold up to the I5 because it might be cheaper for me to get a PS3 because a lot of the game I want to play from last gen are on there too, but this si not ideal I want PC
checked http://www.logicalincrements.com/ yet?
if you want to emulate PS2 you should consider a cheap GPU and a half-decent CPU since I'm afraid onboard video won't suffice. forget AMD, get an Intel processor. find a CPU with a stock cooler so you don't have to waste money on a 3rd party one.
pick 8 gigs of RAM if you can afford. value RAM, not Ripjaws whatever. you can cut corners by picking a cheap motherboard (cheapest that's compatible with your CPU and from a recognized brand) and a cheap case (again, recognized brand, no Chink shit). you can also calculate the wattage and pick a PSU that's barely above what you'll need to save a few bucks.
>>333249562
Alright I'm piecing togethers bits and pieces of information, I'll try figure this out because with all the parts included its coming up to $800 now and this is simply out of control, my budget still is $300 so I'll have to really find out what I'm doing.
Thanks for the information
>>333249056
how does the Cell hold up in comparison to the i5? how is that even a question? did you mean to ask 'how is PS2 emulation on PS3'?
because it's crap. you'll be limited to PSN re-releases unless you get A) a modded PS3 or B) a release PS3.
modded PS3s are great but software PS2 emulation is buggy. games might or might not work. release PS3s have a 99% failure rate, if you can find one. it's fixable, but I don't think you have the needed skills.
if you can reball a release PS3 and softmod it, then it's the ultimate emulation machine.
>>333249056
PS3 is about 120$ from gamestop last time I checked. I bought one to downgrade it to 3.55 myself following a guide on youtube with an E3 flasher
Otherwise you'll most likely need more power
>>333246975
you sure as hell don't need 8gb ram with that trash lmao
1tb is a lot of data, you can save money on that with a smaller hardrive
get rid of the cpu cooler you ain't gonna get shit overclocking your i3
seeing as you're 12 years old, grab a console.
you're so young you shouldn't waste your precious time with pc gaming.
just ask your mom for a laptop to do homework on and that will do you nicely until you've grown up a bit.
like seriously i'm not trying to be mean but it's really good advice
Drop the fan. Your cpu already comes with one.
This is the best you can get for under $300.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QX9723
>>333249774
>$800
you're definitely doing something wrong. following prices are form newegg:
-a decent i5 6X00 (non-K) is $185~230
-comes with a stock cooler so you don't need a 3rd party one
-1151 motherboards start at $50
-value RAM is $16~33 for 4 and 8 gigs respectively
-get a Western Digital drive if you can afford. you don't 'need' one, but they're more reliable.
-you don't need a $350 GPU. you'll have to settle for low~med anyway, so get a $150~200 one. something like a GTX 950/960.
-make sure your case is compatible with the rest of the parts, get the cheapest you can find from a recognized brand.
-don't overspend (or underspend) on your PSU. generally, it's the GPU that drains the most power. cheaper GPU = cheaper PSU. I'd go Corsair myself.
Based off of those parts/prices, I'm assuming you're Australian, or at least ordering shit from the AU pcpartpicker site.
Before I say anything more, I'd suggest save up more. $600 being double your budget can get you a decent computer, but $300... probably better for used, or just better to save up.
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/NPm3f7 - This was a quick throw together; save some money by going for a weaker cpu.
I tried
Go for a few months without a computer.
Spending mid-to-low amounts of money on a computer is NEVER worth it. The CPU would already drag you down (hell, some games now won't even launch on a dual core, and it's going to get worse with DX12 and the consoles) and the GPU is trash.
If you want something just to play PS2 games, look for a 2nd hand computer. I used to play PS2 games in 4x native resolution back in 2010 with a 5870. Spend the 300 on a decent 2nd hand one to get you through if you have to.
You need a decent budget for a PC or it's not worth doing at all. quad core + 380/960ti is a bare minimum for playing modern games decently.
Okay I just got done with a new build and this price is much more okay with me but I don't understand if this motherboard is good or not and which graphics card to go with now.
>>333246975
that piece of crap doesnt even have half the power of a ps4. and you're paying 600 dollars for it lol
just pick up a used pc for $150 with core2duo, you wont be able to play games at 1080p at either of those. core2duo is enough for ps2 emulation.
being poorfag and wanting to be masterrace doesnt compute, buddy. you need to spend $1000 to even be able to consider gaming 1080p on games released in 2015
>>333251280
Okay this is awesome I will look into this
>>333251080
>>333251307
Thanks for the information I will read through it
I also just want to clarify something.
>quad core +
Mean the CPU, right? Are all i5's quad core?
>380/960ti
Is this to do with the graphics card?
I will put aside an additional $200 for the PC after what I have read in third thread. $500 is still too much but I guess it will have to be done
>>333251324
>i3
>120gb HDD
>8gb ram
>750ti
ahahahahhahahahhaa is this 2012?
>>333251280
>>333251496
It's about all I could do with that $300 or so.
Regardless, either save up, or buy used/prebuilt.
>>333251496
If you genuinely do not understand the terms we're using, don't buy a computer for gaming. Don't try and build your own.
Buy a cheap 2nd hand one if you're this desperate.
if you are Australian, look on gumtree. Here's something that would run most if not all PS2 games on an emulator very well.
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/carnegie/desktops/custom-fast-3-3ghz-intel-i5-2tb-hdd-8gb-ddr3-usb-3-nvidia-gpu-2tb-hd/1109027395
$450.
I don't know what the GPU is, but if it's got 2GB VRAM it's new enough to run PS2 emulators in fairly high res.
>>333251510
don't bully what th heck man T__T
>>333251740
dude i you only have $600 get an used office pc for $200 and use the rest to buy a console of your choice and games or a handheld and pirate
pirate an OS
Why did you think you could buy a $250 video card if you're on a $300 budget.
PCs are FUCKING EXPENSIVE
I'm still using a phenom ii x4 from 2010. what the fuck
I want one of the new i5 or i7s and motherboards and ram but thats like $400+
>>333251324
>130$ motherboard
>60$ memory
>SSD
what the fuck are you doing? give me a minute, I'll put something together for you.
what's your budget, exactly? do you mind going overboard or would rather sacrifice performance?
Okay I did another try at this build
How is this one? The main things I am having trouble with is picking the mother board and graphics card I don't know what ones to pick =/
>>333252026
My budget is $500 au at the moment but I may go over it if I really have to.
I want run current AAA games at med to low settings at 30fps and run PS2 emulation smoothly if possible. That is my goal
>>333252158
>GT610
pppffffAHAHAHAHhahH
>r7 370
>$250
what the fuck?
>>333252381
Australia
>>333252340
s-stop
Get a cheaper motherboard, use MicroCenter and get one of their bundles.
This is your first build so of course its going to be shitty but don't go too shit by really cheaping out on a gpu or especially a PSU.
http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx
They have a deal on a 6th gen i3 for 140 bucks with a mobo, get a decent psu that is rated for 60 bucks, a hdd instead of an ssd since you dont have money to spend so about another 60, 8gb ram 60, a case for about 40-60, and go with a 750ti for about a 120 and you have a build for under 500 bucks.
>>333252158
That video card can LITERALLY BE WORSE than the integrated graphics on the CPU. Sometimes cheap GPUs are not even worth looking at.
Please answer the question about being Australian, because there's quite a lot of good PCs on Gumtree that have older, but better as a package hardware, cheaper than what you're going to waste your money on buying stuff new.
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/kelso/desktops/reduced-gaming-computer-i7-2-8ghz-8gb-500gb-hd6970-2gb/1108961562
This is SIGNIFICANTLY better than what you're trying to build, and cheaper.
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/wkQGvK
R8 h8 appreci8. Spurred on by my 1k tax return coming soon.
>>333252542
I have the other ad you mention saved yes I am from Australia but I'm from NSW and I don't know if its good to buy used PC because I don't know how long they used it for, sometimes people will wrap their PC's in blankets and leave it running for a week before giving them to you I've heard it happen.
If I cant find anything cheap on PC part picker I will check those out. thanks checking the second link now
>>333252542
>i7 2.8ghz
>hd6970
that isnt too much better there
>>333252542
I might buy that person computer. If some parts need to be replaced in the future, which parts would usually have to be replaced first?
>>333252721
I just killed off my 6970. It worked great until last year. Trying to run Far Cry 3 on medium was a Rollercoaster.
>>333252663
Used PCs generally aren't that bad.
A very small minority would purposefully sell you something that doesn't work on Gumtree. Always take their name and a copy of their ID if you're worried. If they refuse, then don't trust them.
>>333252721
It's better than a Nvidia 610.
I was playing MGS5 on medium settings using my 5870 while my 970 was being RMA'd. a 6970 is pretty decent, especially when wanting to mainly play PS2 emulators.
>>333252807
Uhhh probably the GPU?
If I'm going to be honest, the CPU is starting to show it's age, but it's fine for any PS2 emulation and most games except absolutely brand new ones.
>>333252158
Alright. $500.
Assuming you have monitor/mouse/keyboard, using wired connection, and can just get some cheap OS off kinguin.net or some shit;
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/typmVn
Buying parts for a computer is pretty shit in Australia. Doing it late-May when I get my TAFE payments (I worked it out to be roughly $800)
Anyways, check Gumtree/eBay for something cheap, that's a good bet.
>>333252381
Australia. That's what the fuck.
(Gotta love shit-tier Australian internet...)
>>333252819
a 750ti is about the same in performance and provides cheaper price and is newer in tech.
>>333252969
Well anything is better than a 610, he'd be better off going with my build
>>333252530
but now seeing that he is an aussie he is fucked.
OP just fly out to the US and buy parts here.
![DeponiaDoomsday_03_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VdwIfQy.jpg "DeponiaDoomsday_03_[1].jpg")
>>333248326
PC is basically the only platform still releasing adventure games these days.
>>333253018
OP here, this looks like a great price point and something I can afford, I am wondering though because I was told in this thread an i3 will struggle with ps2 emulation. Is this cpu okay for doing that? That's mainly the games I want to play =/. I am willing to go over my budget for that purpose
>>333248026
Dude if my E8400 with less clockspeed can then that thing can too.
>>333252294
>I want run current AAA games at med to low settings at 30fps and run PS2 emulation smoothly if possible. That is my goal
I know that pain. Built my first PC last year. Ran out of cash for a nice GPU so i'm running everything on a GT 610. Playing Persona 4 and it slows down to a crawl during boss fights and all out attacks. It sucks
>>333252294
>AU
I have no idea how conversion works but you said 300$ so I'm going with that. here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/F2FKFT
it's 380$ but it's solid- see >>333251930 for instance. AMD CPUs are bad for emulation and Logisys is a crap brand, bad PSU. you probably don't need a DVD, either.
you can save a few bucks by picking 4 gigs of memory instead of 8, a smaller drive and/or a different video card. you should actually look for another GPU that fits your needs, but don't go over 150$. you can also choose a cheaper case/PSU brand but I wouldn't recommend it.
>>333253121
Thanks I will look at this one too
>i3
>CPU cooler
>epic GAMER RAM
all shit.
>>333253390
Don't that APU is shit, any built in graphics is shit. If you get anything just go with the 750ti or whatever the AMD equivalent.
>i3
>amd
>emulation
kek
>>333251324
Why are you even bothering?
>>333253474
What do you use to cool your fucking CPU then? Liquid Nitrogen? That ram is perfectly fine, lets see your shitty build.
>>333253603
CPUs get shipped with a cooler anon
>>333253603
Why the fuck would he need a fucking cooler if he's not gonna OC, you fucking moron? The stock cooler is more than enough. RAM is overpriced meme shit.
Are you fucking retarded or trolling?
>>333252158
yeah dont get the GT 610, I have that card. Got it on sale at Best Buy for $50 and it isnt smooth with PS2 emulation. It's actually better than I expected admittedly but you'll wish you got something better. Get a 750ti at the bare minimum for your GPU
Use this website to measure your builds potential power http://www.userbenchmark.com/
ps2 emulation is still shit. Just buy a console with freemc boot. its cheap
>>333253686
>>333253657
When you use a stock cooler temps are way higher than using a third party cooler. I'd rather have lower temps meaning longer life span of my CPU for a little money than using a shitty stock. I apologize about the ram because I am still used to the prices from a couple years ago where 60 used to be normal if not low.
>>333253498
>750ti or whatever the AMD equivalent
Impossible to fit into the budget.
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/Xt6qYJ
Okay this is what I came up with now.
Just want to make sure the CPU, motherboard and GPU is okay for my goals.
Ps2 emulation and AAA games at low settings at 30fps.
Will this be okay?
>>333254026
>When you use a stock cooler temps are way higher than using a third party cooler.
Which is not relevant for normal use and if you're capable of cleaning your rig once a year or so so the dust doesn't build up. If you're on a very tight budget, then a better cpu cooler is something you can easily save for an upgrade
>>333254093
Is that laptop RAM?
>>333254093
This is perfect OP although you might need a case. Otherwise great.
>>333254093
The GPU has no cost listed.
>>333254026
every other part will die long before your CPU does, even using a stock fan under climates where the average is 30º during the summer. it'll last years, if not decades.
if you're not overclocking then a sotck fan is more than enough.
OP why are you on /v/ asking this
/g/ would be much better help
>>333254305
it's around $120
Just use www.logicalincrements.com/
It recommends builds based on budget.
>>333254093
Could potentially save some money and go for a cheaper, similar wattage power supply, and maybe pick a gpu that has a price listed on there. Maybe some cheaper ram, but I don't check what ram the Skylake line has. Looks pretty decent to me, at least.
>>333254352
But he's not talking about buying a new smartphone of crypto currency, how would /g/ be able to help him
>>333254263
>>333254305
>>333254235
Okay the build is set.
I just need to pick a graphics card, someone said 750ti is what I need, these are the ones that are available to me, should I pick one of these or look for a better one in a higher price range?
>>333254430
>Could potentially save some money and go for a cheaper, similar wattage power supply
No
You don't ever save on the PSU
>>333254476
The cheapest one will do just fine.
>>333254423
Logical increments isn't what I'd go for in OP's case because most people who want cheap builds don't go for emulation.
I'd say a good CPU with a cheap GPU is mandatory. Not sure if you can even make a $300 build with that.
>he buys an i3
>for emulation no less
I am dying here.
>>333254476
there should be a 750 ti in that list that says Superclocked in the Series column. Pick that one, it's about $100
>>333254093
>>333254476
>>333254093
6100Ts may be hard to find. that's why I didn't pick it when putting that together. you don't need an ATX mobo but it's up to you, I guess.
GTX 750 Ti is fine. look some benchmarks up and see if it fits your needs. you may wanna consider a GTX 950. it really depends on your budget.
>>333254619
This. I'm in fucking tears now and will be shitting myself in laughter when he comes to the emulation general with his "problems".
>>333254619
Pretty sure it's ten times more powerful than the CPU in the PS2 which is the basic requirement
Good shitpost though
>>333254785
that's not very nice
>>333254841
Pretty sure you don't know shit about emulation for posting something that stupid.
Not a good post though.
I couldn find the superclocked one so I just went with the cheapest 750ti I could find and I'll be using my old PC case to put it in.
This should be okay for PS2 emulation and light AAA gaming at 30fps, right guys?
The price is extremely high since the GPU though I'm not sure if this is the best choice but if the build is okay 'll try find a good dealon the gpu or something on gumtree or ebay
>>333254619
>>333254785
modern i3s are fine for emulation if you don't mind occasional drops or not rendering at 3 times the original resolution.
I emulated SotC on a Phenom II X4 955.
>>333254619
>>333254785
He won't be running these games at 1080p 60fps dumbfucks, the beauty of emulation is that you can emulate it as it was so you have no problems.
>>333254927
>170$
>for a 750Ti
no, it's not okay. you can get a far better card for that price. you also don't need an ATX motherboard unless your case can't fit anything else.
>>333254927
>I couldn find the superclocked one so I just went with the cheapest 750ti I could find
http://amzn.com/B00IDG3IDO
Make sure that isnt laptop RAM
>>333246975
You should not be buying a pc for less than 600
The processor is the ONE fucking thing you don't save money on if you want half-way decent emulation. And you get an i3. No boost. Only dual core. No HT. And PS2 emulation does take advantage of more cores.
Please kill yourself. Please.
>>333255072
He is an aussie, he doesnt have much of a choice.
>>333254909
Prove what I just said wrong then.
This ought to be really fucking good.
>>333255072
id actually go with that mobo. If he's using the case he had before, then he'll appreciate the extra space. It's still workable with a bigger mobo but its a tight squeeze trying to screw the mobo down securely
>>333255072
>>333255105
Okay thanks I will try to make sure
>>333255125
It should be okay people said =/
>>333254991
Yep. No problems whatsoever. I'm sure Ratchet & Clank 3 will run perfectly on that i3.
>>333255184
Why would anyone even try to explain something to a literal moron that thinks "PC hav bigger number in processor numbers so it must be betterer!!1"? No point. You are a retard. It doesn't matter what anyone would tell you about this since you wouldn't even understand it.
>>333246975
mfw my graphics card is double the budget of outback steakhouses entire build.
>>333255228
Ratchet & Clank 3 won't run perfectly on anything.
>>333255227
go to your list on partpicker, remove the GPU, click 'choose' and arrange by price. there are many 100$ 750Tis, like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/zotac-video-card-zt7060510m
>>333255361
I find there's something oddly enjoyable in getting Skyrim to run in a 1st gen i7 laptop.
using ENB, too.
BUYUSED
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I got a 3570 and a gtx 680 for 200$ on Craigslist, swallow your pride and shop on e-Bay and Craigslist
>>333255417
Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card is the cheapest one for me for $169 =/
I am in Australia I think that's the problem but $100 USD to AUD only comes to around $132. I think this is the cheapest I can get it but I'll search for that specific model too on ebay.
Thankss for the help btw everyone in this thread has been so helpful except for the bullies T_T
>>333255610
i prefer the new product market that is done via order forms and doesn't require me to be in a situation where someone might look at me
>>333255651
>=/
>T_T
I want Ausfags to leave.
>>333255651
australian prices are hideous, frankly this is an awful time of year to buy anyway and it's especially compounded by the fact that you're buying before pascal and polaris drop which will drive current gen gpu prices down into the dust
>>333246975
Get a 4th gen i5, a LGA1150 motherboard and ddr3 ram.
That will cut enough the price and it will run just fine.
Mind you dont need a custom cooler for intel processors unless you're planning to oc or you live in a freaking desert.
Don't be cheap with the PS btw
>>333255701
Stop being a faggot, most of the people who build pc's are spergs like you
>>333255306
That was never my point and you know it. Explain why an i3 is inadequate for PS2 emulation right now or you're a fucking idiot.
>>333255861
this too. since you're gonna be hunting for parts anyway you might as well get older ones.
>>333255861
Forgot to say, dont mix amd with intel ffs, get intel + nvidia or amd + amd.
>>333255861
>>333256036
Thanks I will take this information on board. Still tryin to find ways to bring the price of the build down a little. i5's are too expensive for me at the moment so I'll have to settle for an i3
>>333247450
yes but consoles come with controllers and cables and such
pcs dont
> i3
KEKd
>>333255961
PS2 uses multithreading so having a CPU with many cores is crucial. It depends on the games, but generally you're gonna struggle to get more than 20 fps at native resolution with such a build.
I'd say you can run more PS2 games with an i5 and integrated graphic card than with an i3 and decent GPU.
>>333246975
op just build this or similar
salvage parts from your old pc for more savings
>>333246975
here ya go op
salvage parts from your old pcif you
>>333256593
OP here
This is what I can salvage from my old PC
Will this be okay for the time being? If I hold out on the gpu I can save $170 which is huge
>>333256819
Just go out and suck some dicks or whatever so you can get a decent gpu you fucking poorshit
>>333256593
>DVD-RW
>2 different ram
Why?
Also buying an SSD with a low budget it's a bad move, better invest on something else.
>>333256423
>Multithreading is your answer
>No discussion of particular CPU related performance
So you don't have a clue then.
>but generally you're gonna struggle to get more than 20 fps at native resolution with such a build.
And this is just straight out bullshit.
>>333256423
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paobW1owYOE
>>333256819
These are popular as PPU. Don't know the prices in US but you should get some good money for it.
Just buy a PS2 you fuckin abbo retard.
>>333257363
Really? Wow in that case I might see what I can get for it in that case
Save money and build a more powerful PC.
It's not worth spending only $600 on one fambam
>>333256423
No, it needs a dual core, with the ability to enable a 'hack' to use a third core.
PCSX2 is not designed for quadcores. Only dual cores with the extra offloading to another thread/core for very specific things.
>>333256423
>Does the emulator support 4 cores?
>No, currently up to 3 cores are supported (2 cores and an additional one if the new MTVU speed hack is used). To make PCSX2 efficiently use 4 or more cores will require major code changes. So don't ask when quad-core support will be available, since it won't be anytime soon! However, PCSX2 will run fine on your quad-core processor. It just won't benefit from the extra core.
>>333247752
second that
