>People would still rather be playing Skyrim than Witcher 3
According to /v/, a bad game like Skyrim should have lost its appeal a long time ago. How come that isn't actually the case, and can someone explain this phenomenon? But more importantly, how come Witcher 3 doesn't have as good mod tools as Skyrim?
most of /v/ only played the first 5 hours
it's why the bloody baron quest line is the only one they talk about
>muh goty awards
sorry Todd but you're third place now
>>333246509
I will tell you what happened. Skyrim is nowadays for 3€ on sales, Witcher 3 is 25€ on sales.
>>333246509
because Skyrim courted people who actually enjoy playing games
The Witcher 3 courted entitled cynical subhumans who only derive enjoyment from deriding people who enjoy playing games
Skyrim was released and its playerbase loved the fuck out of it, played the fuck out of it, talked about it amongst each other, all while the witcher's crowd angrily shat on it.
Then The Witcher 3 came out and its playerbase...... shat all over it. Cried and bitched about how it didn't look good enough, didn't play right, didn't run right on whatever the fuck. Basically spent more hours complaining than playing.
The moral of the story is maybe you should market your games to people who buy games and not to people who bitch about games.
A strong modding community will keep a game active for surprisingly long
>>333246509
I didn't like it from what I played.
Look here's some characters you're meant to know, oh wait here's the ice pirates oh wait that was a dream. Okay now we're on horses and we're trying to find a woman and then we reach a village and now you gotta talk to people it's just like mass effect except shitter because you can't be a girl
>>333247216
this is the correct answer anything else is literally wrong
> The number of people playing the game directly correlates to the quality of the game
> A more popular, more approachable game has more people playing it
It's been a whole year. Let it go.
>>333246509
>how come Witcher 3 doesn't have as good mod tools as Skyrim?
because they know full well the community would have restored the game to pre downgrade visuals and made contracts actually fun and immersive instead of follow the red shit.
>>333247446
so... a win win?
they didn't provide mod tools because it would have made their game play well, look great and sell better?
The Witcher was ok but failed to hook me. Not sure why, I think it just plods too much and managing potions isn't fun.
Skyrim was just straight up fucking boring and felt like absolute shit, like all Bethesda games.
Got it on GOG for DRM-free full ownership, my playtime never got tracked on Steam. They sold a shitload on GOG too
>>333246509
>>333246509
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/m6V2aWK_t0rpxWH3_5KLmw/
>people
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/m6V2aWK_t0rpxWH3_5KLmw/
>replying
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/m6V2aWK_t0rpxWH3_5KLmw/
>to this autism
>>333247446
that and the fact that no one really used redkit 1.0 as it was terrible so CDPR just decided to not even try to make a new one
>>333247734
>hey guys, here is our modding kit!
>what, nobody wants to use it? well guess what, no mode modding tools!!!
>nevermind that its easier to make a game from scratch in Unity than to make a mod for TW2
And then they even make modding competitions and events for TW3.
Guess what, nobody fucking cares, when "modding" is just keyword for texture swapping.
>>333247216
And this is why TES will always be timeless. Oblivion has been out for 10 years and for those 10 years there has been a consistent flow of new things. Right now there's over 27,000 Oblivion files on Nexus, that roughly 2000 things or updates of things per year for a fucking decade.
Skyrim will be 5 years old this year and that has almost 50,000 files.
Do you really have to ask shit like this? Skyrim is probably the pinnacle of gaming for normies and casuals, fucking everyone knows about the game and probably has played at least a few hours of it. Also like other have already said, you have shitloads of mods to sink time
Witcher 3 had also big marketing and focus on getting a wider audience, but while it did well it seems like it doesn't appeal that much to normies and casuals
90% of people playing skyrim right now arent really playing it, they are just using it to take screenshots of their HD fuckdolls
>>333248014
>Skyrim is probably the pinnacle of gaming
Yes. That is exactly the point.
Skyrim is better than Witcher 3.
Graphics and story dont make a game good.
>>333246509
>there are people on /v/ who unironically enjoy WRPGs
This board is completely dead.
>>333246509
Strange to leave the overall sales out of your little picture, isnt it?
>>333246509
>Look mom! I posted it again!
>>333248173
Skyrim outsold Witcher 3 handily.
>>333248129
I haven't played Witcher 3, but I pity you for having such awful__b8_
skyrim is a fantasy sandbox where people can mod in any fantasy they possibly want
>this thread everyday
>>333247956
I wouldnt care about modding in Skyrim as well, if the world wasnt that empty and boring to begin with.
>>333246509
imagining some witchercucks face when seeing this always makes me giggle
>>333246509
I'm more surprised that MGSV is more alive than Witcher 3.
>>333248396
I'm not quite sure why. Bethesda has a fanbase far larger than CD Projekt
>>333247223
>not reading all the books before playing it
Reading the novels makes the game so much more enjoyable as you understand everything and all the call backs and references and plot points though it is kind of ridiculous to expect people to read 8 books to play a game.
>>333247558
they didn't provide them because it wasn't worth the cost probably. people did barely anything with witcher 2 modding that wasn't just re-textures. hell, largest mod was made by a cdpr employee to show off what can be done with the editor.
>>333248551
>the game gets good if you read a 4500 page manual!!!
>>333248396
How do you imagine their face to be?
How new on the internet are you?
>>333248508
mulitplayer
>>333246509
Witcher 3 is the better overall game, I much prefer it over "go to this dungeon and grab this item" x100. The only reason it's still being played today is its modding scene. I use Skyrim to make orcs rape men and women.
>>333248551
>expected
Not really. While CDPR clearly wanted big money and broke onto console market in full force, W3 is a game for the fans ultimately and I'd say it's a bad gateway to Witcher franchise.
>>333247213
hahaha truth
>>333246509
>how come Witcher 3 doesn't have as good mod tools as Skyrim?
Because they are waiting for Blood & Wine to sell before announcing Redkit 2
>>333248585
witcher 2 modding didn't do well because A) limited editor B) they released it way too late
>>333248652
>comparing a game from 2011 to a game from 2015.
modders don't care about TW3 I guess.
I was really looking forward to improved porn mod shit in TW3 but so far I don't see any news from the TW3 modding scene. Granted I don't keep up with it, but if it was any good I would've seen screencaps or threads about it here I'm sure.
Did they ever release that Redkit with TW3 or whatever? I'm guessing by now they have already.
>>333248585
>largest mod was made by a cdpr employee to show off what can be done with the editor
are you talking about the combat enhancement mod?
>>333248652
>I use Skyrim to make orcs rape men and women.
Been there, done that.
>>333248779
That's exactly what the thread topic is about.
>>333248663
The gateway is the first book. You are going to be confused if you jump in at the first or even the second game.
>>333248789
No and they said they have no plans to do so,
>>333248663
All Witcher games are a bad gateway to the franchise since they're fanfiction with characters not behaving or looking like they should.
But I do admit that W3 is probably too overwhelming with returning characters for someone who picks it up as their first game.
>long, story-heavy game
Gee, I wonder why.
There's not a whole lot of replay value in witcher 3.
You get 2 maybe 3 playthroughs to see the majority of whats on offer.
It's already been said in essence, but the sandbox nature of Skyrim coupled with 5 years of mod releases make it basically endlessly replayable.
There's nothing wrong with The Witcher 3, it's a great game, but it's greatly more plot driven. You won't jump into it again every day just to fuck (possibly literally) with bandits or something like you would in Skyrim.
This guy has been shitposting about Witcher 3 for over a year.
Every time people reply to the threads. Every time somebody points out it's the same old spamming pasta.
STOP REPLYING TO BAIT THREADS
>>333248945
Are the Witcher games the most expensive fan fiction of all time? I think so.
>>333248979
lol. i hope this is your real opinion, that would be funny.
>>333249039
So Skyrim is actually a game and Witcher 3 is just a shitty "MUH STORY" garbage game with no good gameplay.
>>333249105
It's lost effectiveness over time. Especially after he was outed as a redditor. Now his threads barely reach over 200 nowadays.
>There are people on /v/ right now who play the watered down console version of Witcher 3 instead of the complete PC experience
>There are people on /v/ who play Witcher 3 without using the Primer Alchemy Mod
>There are people on /v/ who dont know about AMM appearances mod
>There are people on /v/ that don't use brutal and realistic combat mod and play vanilla difficulty
Tip Top Literally Kek
>>333249290
>Skyrim is actually a game
Skyrim is not a game.
>>333249290
Skyrim is based more on gameplay, shit gameplay (spam M1 until you win, no deep combat mechanics, repetitive dungeons and quests). Witcher 3 is story heavy but does it well and has enjoyable gameplay.
>>333249417
>no deep combat mechanics, repetitive dungeons and quests
Sounds like Witcher 3.
>>333249351
>tfw you remember who the faggot was and what he did to get doxed
>>333249479
Nah.
>>333249479
Compare the main story quests, sidequests, and optional hunts to what Skyrim has to offer.
>>333246509
Skyrim runs on toasters, therefore can reach a wider audience. Devs still dont get lowe graphics settings actually matter too. See all the valve games and mobas and skyrim in this case. Lower requirements=bigger playerbase.
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/74680/?
THIS is why Skyrim > Witcher 3
I don't really have much context on AAA WRPGs these days, too busy with other stuff to keep up-to-date.
The most I know about The Witcher is that it's basically a waifu simulator and takes a significant time investment.
>>333248251
>>333248251
To be fair Skyrim is probably the best selling RPG of all time as well, though.
>>333248173
Skyrim has sold over 20 million copies anon. It's basically a Quadruple-A Title.
>>333249797
>a waifu simulator
The romance is actually a pretty small part and there is only 2 options. There are other sex scenes but there is only 2 waifus you can choose from. One pops up in and out of the main story while the other plays larger part but I would still say the romance part is pretty small.
>a significant time investment.
Yeah it can honestly be a bit overwhelming.
Why is Witcher 3 compared to Skyrim and not Fallout 4?
Was Bethesdas newest RPG that shitty and boring?
>>333249720
>only the option be adressed as male or female
Shit
>>333250142
skyrim IS bethesda's newest rpg
>>333250142
>Fallout 4
>RPG
>>333249351
So OP is the same guy or just a impersonator? Got any of the evidence he was from reddit?
I'm honestly not surprised.
>>333249504
What happened?
>>333250142
Fallout 4 was a weird experiment of a game. I like it, but it feels very strange at times, like they pushed off too far from their roots and still kept doing the same shitty little things they always do.
God I hope the next ES doesn't have a voiced protag. That would be unbearably weird and aggravating.
CDPR have announced previously that the majority of their sales are on GOG, which wouldn't be tracked in Steam's most played games for obvious reasons.
>>333247213
This.
Or maybe it's because witcher 3's replay value is non existent compared to skyrims.
>>333250292
>le special retard
who else just wanted the game to be over by the end of it.
the main story arc with the constant dead ends was absolutely draining.the horrible combat didn't help matters either
>>333247213
>implying they are not the same crowd
>>333250612
>Fallout 4
>RPG
Pick one.
>>333250393
He tweeted Konami telling them about the pre released streams of MGSV. Konami then pulled them off twitch and the general over at /vg/ erupted into chaos and doxed him. Dude shit his pants.
I'm excited about Cyberpunk 2077. I think that CDPR have a chance to become a dev studio like Rockstar or Bethesda that consistently ship games that sell like crazy are are loved by lots of people. I also hope that they encourage other studios to step up their game in terms of deep, rich, adult stories about consequences, moral ambiguity, and whores.
>>333250612
>you create a character, unlike in tw3
>you can determine your character's attitude towards factions and events, unlike in tw3
>you can pursue different professions, unlike in tw3
>combat is mostly reliant on character skill rather than player skill, unlike in tw3
>there is advanced weapon and armor crafting, unlike in tw3
>you distribute attribute points on level up, unlike in tw3
>>333250875
I hope that Cyberpunk wont be an action game. I pray to Zeus and Thor every evening.
Please, oh my fuck PLEASE make it a proper role playing game, with a party of specialists, with a grid, with round based combat, with dice rolls.
But I think we all know it will be a third person Deus Ex.
>>333246509
mods, same reason why fallout 4 will have a shit load of players despite being fairly average at everything it set out to do.
>>333250910
So.. its a RPG?
![780-6-1446870731[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xKJysDH.jpg "780-6-1446870731[1].jpg")
>>333251098
I played FO4 for longer than TW3, and had more fun with it.
It is thus a superior game, both in value and in "quality", high quality here meaning able to give you loads of fun.
TW3 is only superior on the technical aspects. Games are about game feel, and TW3 feels bad.
>>333250984
>PLEASE make it a proper role playing game, with a party of specialists, with a grid, with round based combat, with dice rolls
Why not just play a tabletop, then?
![fo4iso2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kXVfg1K.jpg "fo4iso2[1].jpg")
>>333250292
>>333250785
see >>333250910
>>333251197
Geralt has no ass. Though I am glad to see he is in his natural habitat after being turned into a white deer like he was at the end of the books.
>>333251296
Looks like that would have been the best game ever made.
![780-3-1446147998[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4LPYeTb.jpg "780-3-1446147998[1].jpg")
>>333251291
>I wish this game were good instead of shit.
>"If you want a good game, why not play something else? Let us have our shit."
Really?
>>333251310
He is just trying to fuck that doe.
>>333251296
>Fallout 4
>RPG
kek
>>333251429
b-but anon that's a buck
>>333251429
But what's the point of it being a videogame if you want it to have literally all of the exact properties of the tabletop version?
>>333251548
I want it to have the properties of good role playing video games, instead of action games with character development.
>Witcher 3 is for people who actually enjoy video games
>TES is for degenerates who install loli and furry mods
Sounds about right.
>Skyrim
>hundred hours or so to finish the mediocre official content
>replayable with different builds
>infinite content to dick around with via mods
>Witcher 3
>hundred hours to finish up the excellent official content
>nothing left to do but wander around an empty world
>no replay value as all builds are pretty much the same
>limited mod support
![1459136139642[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BOPu5qF.jpg "1459136139642[1].jpg")
>>333251620
>Skyrim is for people who actually enjoy video games
>TW3 is for people who like to make political statements by buying anti-SJW games and not playing them
>Skyrim
>See a badass dude in a badass armor
>Manage to kill him
>Get his badass armor, all his weapons, rings, potions and money
>Witcher 3
>See a badass dude in a badass armor
>Manage to kill him
>Get a coin and a sandwich
>>333251649
Shawn's the man.
>>333251739
>Skyrim is for people who actually enjoy eating shit
Fixed that for you. Easy mistake to make, Mr. Meme Anime Reaction Image.
>>333251824
Did I trigger you, lad?
Skyrim is built for fun, TW3 is built for getting good reviews.
Guess which one would see more play.
>>333251739
>witcher anti-sjw
While it might not be sjw it's definitely a franchise that has it's roots in feminism. It's actually something that the books is known for.
>>333251767
Obviously his armor is worse than yours if you managed to beat him. :^)
>>333251824
>Skyrim
>fun
b8
Sure, for maybe the first few hours, until you realize the combat system is horrible and all quests are the same, sending you into copied and pasted dungeons to retrieve an item or kill a person.
>>333251851
You seem quite triggered yourself, friend. If Skyrim was built for fun, its fundament would be sand.
>generic quests
>forgettable story
>abysmal combat system
>shitty lore
>ugly graphics
>stiff animations
>crappy voice acting
>nonexisting physics
>lack of difficulty
How anybody can enjoy this garbage is beyond me.
>>333252028
I'm so glad I've never experienced vanilla skyrim and knew enough about bethesda games to immediately mod it so it was no longer recognizable as the same game.
>>333252138
>open mod support
>mods fix everything
>>333252028
isn't that every TES game?
i've never understood why people were so crazy for bethesda. i guess it was just so easy to mod that modders flocked to them instead of working with more difficult games.
>>333246509
Witcher = GOTY
Skyrim = GOTYAY
That's why.
>>333252231
Oblivion had better quests so no.
![VRGoggles_1200x630-1[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/pSGd6Ow.png "VRGoggles_1200x630-1[1].png")
>>333252138
>Skyrim has flaws that can be fixed with mods
>Witcher has flaws and shit mod support and community
Bethesda wins again, CDPR shills on suicide watch.
>>333252184
>There! Modders sprinkled gold dust on this turd, now it's digestible!
Disgusting.
I wish this meme would die. 99% of all mods are shit.
>>333246509
This picture..
all retail copies of Witcher 3 are on GOG galaxy.
I really liked TW3 and played a good 60 hours of it.
I didn't even get to the end.
It's the kind of game where you can genuinely burn yourself out on it because there's so much to do, and almost all of it is worthwhile and meaningful.
Skyrim is good too, but probably wouldn't have survived as long if not for the mods.
>>333252273
No mods in the world will fix this shit game.
Look.
Everyone and their fucking dog has played Skyrim. If Bethesda games have one thing going for them, it's accessibility and replayability.
Nobody gives a fuck about Witcher 3 except fans of the series, because the series just isn't very accessible.
Go and try to replay Witcher 3 now, and you tell me how much fun you have. Go on.
>>333246509
still better than MGShit
![1459764978145[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bmzsWSn.jpg "1459764978145[2].jpg")
>>333252028
>Sure, for maybe the first few hours, until you realize the combat system is horrible and all quests are the same, sending you into copied and pasted dungeons to retrieve an item or kill a person.
Are you talking about The Witcher 3 here?
You just forgot to add the Batman vision, and it fits perfectly.
The game is only good until you get done with the very first hub, the Baron quest. Then it is more of the same, and boring, and dull.
This is also the reason why this quest is all drones ever bring up, because its as far as anyone got into the game. I am too lazy to check achievements, but I wouldn't be surprised if more than half of players just quit on the game at that point.
Speaking of The Witcher 3, what happened to Blood and Wine? I got the season pass a long time ago, played through the first expansion and kinda forgot there was supposed to be another one.
>>333246509
https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/filename/meme%20game.jpg/
>>333252386
>well it may be shit, but other things are also shit! yeah, take that!!
Granted, MGS being so low is even sadder, since it has multiplayer.
Bethesda just kills it with every release, other games compete for who gets to be second best.
Maybe The Witcher 3 wins this silver medal, depending on how you liked Tomb Raider, or if we extend things a bit the new Warhammer Total War and Dark Souls 3.
>>333252445
I think CDred pushed it back to keep polishing it more. Considering this is their "last" big release until Cyberpunk 2077--which is at best 2 or so years away--they probably want to make sure they don't end up pissing it up.
>>333252386
also, 10x more people that owns Skyrim, not 10x more people that still plays it..
![1455570044781[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/v6SYgwq.jpg "1455570044781[1].jpg")
>>333252354
>>333252445
Q2 of 2016 so in May. Coincidentally it will probably come out with the release of the 6th book as that't what happened with the Witcher 3.
![Evstafiev-Radovan_Karadzic_3MAR94[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TGETJF2.jpg "Evstafiev-Radovan_Karadzic_3MAR94[2].jpg")
>>333252445
>Blood and Wine
>wasnt ready for Valentine's day
Goddammit CDPR.
>>333252636
they actually got that old drunk pole to write some new stories? based cdproject. wonder if he's going to go back to fill in some slice of life side-stories with Geralt or if he's going to describe how Ciri fucked King Arthur so hard that when he pulled his sword out she was crowned king of England
>>333246509
Are you still at this dude? Its been over a year already.
>>333252295
>shit shit shit shit shit
Well, you seem a real feces specialist
>>333252762
No. Sorry I meant the English translation. There never will be anymore stories that takes place after the events in Lady of the Lake. The author has said time and time again that Geralt's story ends on the island with Yen though there might be more pre-sequels like Season of Storms.Though we do get a glimpse of a time displaced Geralt at the end of Season of Storms that is all we will get.
>>333246649
or maybe because it's the best one
>>333253003
Got triggered by some bad words, son? Shouldn't you be used to shit since you love Skyrim so much? Huh, faggot?
>>333252591
>lists all those features
>doesn't mention their quality
kek
>Over 10 classes
Doesn't matter, builds don't exist in Skyrim since you can easily go from one to the other.
>Can customize everything
Nothing special.
>Numerous gameplay options
And in the end they're all shit. Spam M1 until you win. Quantity =/= Quality
>Can join factions/guilds
Most of the quests consist of the same formula, go to this dungeon and retrieve this item. Plus when you finish the storyline and become the highest tier member avaible, you're still seen as an ordinary civilian by most NPCs, even some of the guild members.
>Can even purchase property and get married
Is this the Sims?
No modding tools beyond a glorified texture editor.
>But no one used RED Kit 1.0!
Yeah that's because they released it 2 years after the game came out, when all buzz for the game subsided.
I mean even Treyarch are releasing modding tools in less than six months after release.
>>333246509
>A bad like Skyrim should have lost its appeal a long time ago
The platform its still primarily played on, PC, has access to mods. Mods have eternalized every Bethesda RPG since Morrowind, even Skyrim which honestly actually has the largest amounts of mods and biggest mod scene we've seen yet out of a Bethesda game.
I can only hope the next Elder Scrolls is alot better than Fallout 4 since Skyrim was still ahead of Fallout 3 in my eyes as Fallout 3 was a mediocre violent raping of a classic.
You can't install furry sex mods on witcher.
Don't you fucktards even comprehend that msot of the european cucks bought it either on GOG or physically which connects it only to GOG and not steam?
>>333246509
The best answer is that Witcher 3 isn't designed like Skyrim is.
TES (at least 3~5) has always had a very modular design, where things are relatively easily compartmentalized into assets that can be readily modified.
I'm no expert on game design, but I believe that Witcher 3 is designed in a much more intricate and interwoven way than TESV is, which makes locating and modifying resources (and making sure that the way those resources are modified doesn't make the rest of the game shit itself) much more difficult.
Pic unrelated.
>>333253115
We get it, you're a real tough big boy, too bad, you're straight outta arguments too
