Birthday's coming up, gonna treat myself to a new card.
What's the best card I can get for a non-ridiculous price right now that'll run any game out right now on max?
>>333238018
R9 390.
>>333239787
seconded
in less than 24 hours nvidia will talk about some shitbut it'll probably be ridiculously priced
When Is your b-day?
>>333239871
>>333239787
Why not the nano?
wait for the new cards, anon.
>>333239997
I said non-ridiculous price.
>>333239975
Birthday's on the 16th, turning 21.
Anon, for the love of all that is good, wait for Pascal. You are in a good position to get one of the new cards, or at least wait until there is massive price drops for current ones.
>>333238018
>treat myself to a
>treat
>treat
>treat
You should ''''''''treat'''''''' yourself to a nice relaxing vacation in Syria.
>>333240072
I thought we were gonna have a moment of "woah" muh bday is the sixth
I got the GTX 970 over the R90 and it's great.
Runs The Division, Witcher 3, GTA V, Fallout all absolutely maxed out 60fps.
>>333239989
A better question is why WOULD you buy a nano?
dumbest card amd's ever put out, and that's saying something
>>333238018
At least post a budget range or system specs or else no one can help you
>>333240197
Not near my PC but I've got an i5k and a gtx 660
>>333240196
Was told it's only 10% weaker than 980ti and 35% cheaper
>>333240072
>I said non-ridiculous price
You don't know the official prices unless you come from the future, anon. For all you know Polaris 10 will perform like a Fury for the price of a 390.
>>333240306
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150730
>>333240328
I've got til the 16th for my birthday so if something comes up until then I might reconsider but for now I'd prefer something for ~500$
>>333240306
>Was told it's only 10% weaker than 980ti and 35% cheaper
You're thinking of the fury non-x
the nano is the midget card that no one asked for and still fewer people give a shit about.
>>333240306
The r9 nano is a "smaller" version of the r9 fury that makes more noise due to having 1-2 fans vs 3 fans.
>>333240193
3.5
>>333239787
I got a r9 380 4g. How good is that?
Building my first PC.
>>333240554
>>333240538
I see, R9 390 better choice, then? Will it become obsolete within months? Will it run DS3 smoothly on max with my i5?
>>333238018
might as well wait now for volta now nigger
>>333238018
980Ti
>>333240306
For 500 just pick up two used 390s or one Fury
>>333240621
Good enough for maxed out 1080p
>>333240724
What's all these names I don't follow this scene
>>333240565
I bought a 970, less than a month ago. it runsdiablo 3 ROS, it's pretty good now, i swear.in 4k.
>>333240652
Your specs are too vague, do you have an i5-750 or a 6600k?
>>333240742
>>333240621
I meant 390 4g.
>>333240776
I got it 3 years ago and it's overclock-able, that help ya?
It depends what settings you use. A 980 Ti can't even max out everything at the moment.
>>333240753
Volta is what AMD will release after Pascal, the expected release date is 2017. You don't want to wait a full year, do you?
>>333240879
I'm not playing in 4k if that's what you mean, just good ol' maxed settings 1080p
>>333240846
If you have two pci-e slots, get the 390, if you only have one slot get the nano.
>>333240912
I don't want to wait more than two weeks dude
>>333240960
A single 390?
>>333240840
Even better, good enough for 1440p
>>333240912
oh shit I just realized I meant to say pascal, well my post was full of errors anyways
but for pascal isn't that long now
>>333241020
yes, a 390 will be plenty for now, and in a year you can pick up another.
>tfw anything higher than the GTX 700 series will get bottlenecked by my CPU
>can't upgrade my CPU because my mobo won't support any newer CPUs
Are 7th gen Intel CPUs coming out anytime soon? I might wait to build a new PC until then.
>>333241094
Guess I'll pick up a 390 then. Any specific model better than others?
>>333240929
That's what I was talking about.
If you use ridiculous settings like HBAO, Furworks, Hairworks, Supersampling, Tessellation you can usually kiss 60 FPS goodbye even with the 980 Ti.
>>333241053
Ah badass. Thanls.
>>333240929
There are games out right now that a 980ti will drop frames in at 1080p.Companies throwing out these kinds of ports have to be in the bed with graphics card manufacturers. A 980 should never be a recommended card for a port of a console game.
>>333241118
>cpu bottlenecked by gpu...
Bro how old/weak is your cpu? i5's from 5 years ago aren't getting bottle necked yet..
>>333241134
MSI and Sapphire BTFO everything else
>>333240652
Well the fury non-x isn't a bad card either, if you're really cruising for something in the 500 dollar range.
But since we've got new memory standards and a die shrink coming up, it'd be much smarter to buy the absolute bang-for-your-dollar 390 and have it last three years and then buy a new card, don't you think?
A 390 will run ds3 fine.
>>333241134
sapphire if you live in high temperature climate
>>333241292
>>333241286
Thanks guys, 390 it is.
>>333241134
>>333241286
That's close enough, no idea why he has an anime avatar though. Also you need an 8gb.
>>333241264
it's a i7 920
it's 8 years old anon.
>>333241134
Sapphire and MSI are good
Gigabyte and XFX are okay
Powercolor is cheap
Asus is shit
>>333241292
>390 will run ds3 fine.
Even if it didnt he can lower the details, medium to max look exactly the same because japs can't code for shit
Wait like 2 months for the new cards retard. You'll be able to get 980 ti performance for 970-980 price due to the die shrink. It'll be way more efficient as well.
>>333241134
Oh and I bought a 970. why the fuck didn't they add hdmi 2.0?
>>333241374
If you mean ram I've got 16gb
>>333240912
Vega, Volta, Pascal, Polaris.All this shit launching within a year of each other. I don't know if this is the best time to upgrade or the worst.
>>333241368
>going poverty brand hardware
You'll regret it
>>333239787
>AMD
>Ever
>>333241530
I don't think so
>>333241530
Yeah he won't. I'm fucking fed up with NVIDIA right now and I own their best card
>buying AMD GPUs when they're on the brink of bankruptcy
Enjoy losing driver support when it happens.
>>333241134
The 290x is like $100 cheaper and performs way better than a 390. You can even oc the 290x to 390x performance since they're literally the same card.
>>333241391
Jeez that thing is old enough to go to school
>>333241391
My 2600 runs anything I throw at it with generally less than 50% usage. I don't really think you would be bottlenecked unless you already are seeing problems.
>>333241597
AMD is beating out Nvidia at every price point was except on the 600+
Housefire harder, shill
>>333241742
I don't know what to think anymore
>>333241505
The 970 does have hdmi 2.0
I don't think any of the r9 3xx cards have it though
>>333239787
Would an R9 be compatible with everything else here?
>>333241742
Anon the mem speed & size are going to make a big difference in the shittily-optimized games of modern times.
>>333241905
I mean, you can but that CPU is pretty old. You're getting big gains either way so go for it.
>>333241742
390s have dropped to the 300ish range and the only place you can find a 290x is ebay
>>333242009
You can PC the speeds up pretty easy. The amount of memory is a gimmick at best unless you are using 4K. I don't know of a game at 1080p needing that much memory.
>>333241843
No.
Gtx 970 > 390
Gtx 980 > 390x
Gtx 980 ti > fury x
I even included the benchmark with the overclocked amd cards to show they still aren't even a match for any stock gtx card even tapped out with some massive overclock.
>>333241737
I'm pretty sure someone would buy them out even if they went bankrupt and just restructure it
>>333241597
assmad?
>>333242364
i'm pretty sure they'd get a large donation from nvidia/intel/G-man to stay in business and prevent them from going bankrupt much the same way apple did.
Nvidia would get hit with too many monopolization taxes to allow it to happen.
>>333238018
Wait a few weeks, new Nvidia cards means AMD price drop, you win whether you go Nvidia or AMD.
>>333242186
The amount of memory only matters in 3 scenarios
>when you play in 4K
>when it's very, very little memory (1GB)
>when its about (because we will argue about anything)
>>333242360
>Hairworks in Witcher 3 sucking away 20 FPS
HAHAHA well done CD Projekt
>>333242360
Where is that chart from?
>babeltechreviews
Who the fuck is that?
>>333242505
I didn't even know that was legal. That's pretty interesting
>>333242515
>>when its about
When it's about nvidia I mean
>>333242360
Did you even check that shit you posted? The 970's even losing to the 290x in a few of those benchmarks. Holy lol
I also like your fair and honest method of using a 10% factory OCed card versus standard amd cards.
>>333242515
Anyone saying they us much more than 2-3GB is lying or running 4K. Even hitting the 3.5 to overload a 970 is pretty challenging.
Nvidia isnt forced to play fair with their business practices so there is no reason to get AMD.
>load game
>see AMD splash screen
>lose double digit FPS because it uses something with 'works' at the end
>>333238018
980
>>333238018
380/X 4gb for 1080p, 390 for 1440p
>>333243081
Do ayymdrones use their brains ever?
The 970 competes with an oc 290x whilst being cheaper.
>I also like your fair and honest method of using a 10% factory OCed card versus standard amd cards.
Nigga I swear you need mental help. You have to be fucking blind to not see the 290x overclock benchmarks there. The 290x has literally been tapped out that they couldn't overclock it any more yet the 970 is on some basically stock boost speed of over 1.1ghz. Anyone with a 970 knows it can easily achieve 1.5 ghz which puts it in 980 stock territory
>>333242360
I honestly don't trust those benchmarks. Almost every video comparison done by digital foundry these days show that the 390 flat out beats 970.
>>333243509
the 970 is pretty even at 1080p, but the 390 takes it at 1440p by a mile
not to mention all maxwell cards don't fully support DX12, so the AMD cards are going to be even farther ahead in the future
390 vs 970 benchmarks
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sapphire-nitro-r9-390-8g-d5,4245.html
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-amd-radeon-r9-390-8gb-review
I can't connect my usb 3.0 cable to my mobo. Am I just retarded or is this kinda difficult normally?
>>333243810
just plug it into the connector, it is one of the worst connectors on the board however
>>333243560
>>333243629
These benchmarks are perfectly accurate
Digital foundry themselves even said they do their comparisons between a practically stock 970 with a poor 20 mhz factory overclock and a "mammoth" r9 390 with some massive overclock. Obviously the tapped out 390 will win in most benchmarks as it has the obvious advantage here. When you oc the 970 however, it trashes the 390 (pic related).
https://youtu.be/4JHuyLoYU4c < vid where they tell you about the cards they use in comparisons
>>333243973
Yup, totally accurate there anon
even with the OC it has dips, and that's only at 1080p where the 970 has it's best shot, and even then you have to be willing to OC your card which lots of people don't bother with.
there's still no real reason to buy a mid range nvidia card over the AMD option when you save money with free-sync vs G-sync, and get better DX12 support with the AMD hardware
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne8VWuE2a4
>>333239906
When
>>333244557
>and even then you have to be willing to OC your card which lots of people don't bother with.
Lol no. Literally any popular gpu vendor eg msi, gigabyte or evga sell their 970's with AT LEAST a 200 mhz oc from the factory. That alone will be enough to beat a 390 and there's plenty of evidence of that just through searching through random video people upload for each vendor card on youtube.
>there's still no real reason to buy a mid range nvidia card over the AMD option when you save money with free-sync vs G-sync, and get better DX12 support with the AMD hardware
Lol you're crazy. How are you saving money when the 390 is the more expensive card.
Dx12 won't even be a mainstream thing till at least late 2017. Everyone keeps going on about dx12 being so amazing yet there's like 1 strategy game that actually had its engine built in mind for dx12 (and it happens to be an amd sponsored game). You don't just release dx12 games like its some easy api to port to. Game engines have to be specifically re built with dx12 features to take full advantage of the api otherwise you get shitshows like gears ultimate on pc which is a dx11 game with dx12 features bolted on which is a fucking slideshow for the most part. It runs like garbage. In the case of the new Hitman and it's gains the devs used async to lower the cpu overhead for amd cards which gave them a bonus, similar to mantle in a way.
All in all though nvidia will have released their new cards which will most likely have full dx12 support by the time games with actual full dx12 support come out in 2017/18.
>that pic
You really thing an explosion like that won't kill frames? If you had the same scenario on the amd card it'd be in the low 40s. Hell, you can barely even see the red amd line at the bottom of the graph. Nice cherry picking but you unfortunately flopped.
>>333245725
Why are you shilling so hard for a terrible company who current has the sub par product aside from the 980ti when OCd
Also the new hitman had DX12, it made the 390 as fast the 980ti, or titan X in this case
390 $299 lowest on the part picker
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr939wf28gd
970 $308 again lowest
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/zotac-video-card-zt9010110p
where do you live that the 970 is significantly cheaper than the 390?
>You really thing an explosion like that won't kill frames? If you had the same scenario on the amd card it'd be in the low 40s. Hell, you can barely even see the red amd line at the bottom of the graph. Nice cherry picking but you unfortunately flopped.
You are so fucked retarded it hurts, if you look at the lines on the bottom you'll see the cards go back and forth when in that zone
please stop posting
>tfw this would all be avoided if developers were actually good at their job and didnt make games that required more power than should be needed
>>333246416
The 980ti here is only at the top due to it's core clock of 1300mhz, would be on par with the 390 otherwise naturally
>>333246416
>You are so fucked retarded it hurts, if you look at the lines on the bottom you'll see the cards go back and forth when in that zone
lmao you posted the video to prove some point against that other guy yet I just watched it and the middle 970 is well ahead of the amd graphics card throughout the whole thing. i think youre the one who needs to stop posting buddy.
>>333246513
Not everyone can write games in assembly
>>333246818
why same fag anon?
aside from that I specifically said in that zone, as in in that GPU intensive zone.
also as I said earlier, the 970 has it's best chance at 1080p which is what that test was running in, and the 390 wasn't even overclocked in that test.
>>333240193
Yeah at 350x420 970cant max anything for shit
Do you think that when those new next gen cards come out the 980Ti will lower in price?
>>333245004
in less than 24 hours retard
>>333246818
Only overclocked 970 did better. They didn't overclock the 390 in their test, only the 970. And before you say 390 cannot be overclocked, that's bullshit. There's a overclock slider built right into the amd crimson software. Stock 970 loses to stock 390 in most areas.
>>333246416
>Why are you shilling so hard for a terrible company who current has the sub par product aside from the 980ti when OCd
Why are you shilling so hard for a terrible company that releases rebrands of the same card for years now and expects people to cough up $100 or more for ever rebrand?
>Also the new hitman had DX12, it made the 390 as fast the 980ti, or titan X in this case
So you're telling me I can just buy a 390 and I'll get titan x performance in every game? Stay deluded. I can cherry pick cases where a 970 matches a fury yet I'm not retarded to try and make people believe that like you do.
>You are so fucked retarded it hurts, if you look at the lines on the bottom you'll see the cards go back and forth when in that zone
Watch the video retard. The oc 970 is ahead 99% of the time and beats the already oc 390 as seen in >>333243973 video where they explain the clocks they use for each card.
You tried and you failed. I'm so sorry to keep beating you like this.
![Ultra_1600p[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/lTmPawz.png "Ultra_1600p[1].png")
>>333246995
I don't know where this meme came from that the 390 is a 1080p+ card but it's shit at it and a terrible idea to purchase it for that purpose. The 970 is more shit at it but that doesn't make either of them a good choice.
They're both 1080p cards. Personally I think the 390 wins out either way.
>>333244557
Here's a newer version of the comparison that is from the full game, not the open beta. And 390 clearly beats 970 here in almost all areas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hbc6AyFIks
I'm on a 770 and might upgrade to a 970 cause I'm too lazy to change drivers and use amd
even when I only get half a year out of this bitch for the next gen to finally arrive
I bought 970 recently, nc a friend told me it will run everything maxxed out as long as i dont want to go above hd.
Now i treid rise of the tomb raider, pit everything on ultra, started the ingame benchmark, and every single time it shits itself on the second scene, and i have to restart. Only if i change the settings on textures lower then ultra, will the benchmark stuff finish.
Is the game unoptimised, or am i fucked with the "you can run maxxed at 1080p" promise?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq6GyUzyuJQ
390 beats 970 in Hitman. Nvidia fanboys BTFO.
>>333247518
That's at ultra, you could easily get playable frame rates on a 390 at 1440p by dropping the settings a bit
>>333247475
>So you're telling me I can just buy a 390 and I'll get titan x performance in every game?
No but clearly you will in the future for games that properly utilize DX12, which watch dogs 2 will hopefully.
aside from that the only real case where a 970 is going to beat a Fury is in like project cars which is an nvidia gimpworks heavy game
>>333247475
>Watch the video retard. The oc 970 is ahead 99% of the time and beats the already oc 390 as seen in
>video where they explain the clocks they use for each card.
and they're using the same exact stuff for all their videos?
>>333247657
lol
>>333247692
nothing can run rise of the tomb raider maxxed out, the game is incredibly GPU intensive and didn't have proper DX12 built in, just a wrapper layer which is why the cards perform the same on DX11 or 12.
Should return the 970 and get a 390 in any case though.
>>333247669
you have to reinstall your drivers anyway, and I'm sorry nvidia is gimping performance on your kepler card, but there's no reason to get a 970 right now
>>333247795
Because the game is literally optimized for AMD
Did you not see the AMD logo when you started the game?
>>333247669
>I'm too lazy to change drivers and use amd
>i'm too lazy to use DDU and install crimson
stop making excuses and just be open about being an nvidia cocksucker.
![High_1600p[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/450QrST.jpg "High_1600p[1].png")
>>333247840
No
>>333247895
but I'm not before the 770 I used amd in almost every pc
>>333247962
1440p would be 10% less pixels so you'd roughly gain 10% more performance or so putting it at the 50s for that test, medium-high settings then, but the game is going to be playable nonetheless
>>333247692
>Only if i change the settings on textures lower then ultra, will the benchmark stuff finish.
welcome to the truth. i had a less than spectacular time with my 970 when i owned one, it can't even run bioshock infinite maxed at 1080p without frame dips.
people will claim it can run GTA V, witcher 3 and other graphic intensive games at 60 fps, they're full of shit.
>>333247892
you're so picky, here... Nvidia gameswork game, Far Cry Primal.
390 > 970.
Nvidia fanboys BTFO AGAIN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMUbHdQBSiQ
>>333247840
I bought it used, so i cant really change it.
Anyway, if its just bc the game is unoptimised, im fine, what i wish for is that this card can serve me in the next 2-3 years on 1080p.
I hope thats not farfetched
>>333248394
Or just put it at 1080p on ultra and get 60+ fps instead of cutting every corner trying to justify it for something it's just no good at.
>>333248394
These are 1080p cards. Stop with this 1440p meme just because it's the only resolution the 390 is competitive at. It might be competitive at that resolution but most recent games don't even get close to 60 fps with high or even medium settings.
why cant you niggas just wait a little longer?
>>333248637
>>333248710
Just because it can't play 1-2 games at 1440p completely maxxed out doesn't mean it's not a 1440p cardalso off topic but the division is a shitty game anyways, inb4 moving the goal posts
>>333248497
Far Cry 4 also loved AMD cards way more than nvidia cards
>>333239787
>housefire 390degrees
Kek
>>333248431
I do t know about the rest, witcher 3 gives me 54-57 fps average. Thats fine by me, but yeah, not exactly 60
>>333241118
Get a mobo and cpu for 300, both together is cheaper than a graphics card that would bottleneck your current cpu
>>333241742
amd fags will defend this.
sure the 290 was a good card when it came out but reselling/branding that same card 4+ years later is fucking shit
>>333248850
1-2 games will become 10+ by the end of the year. Games will become harder to run as they get more graphically demanding. I guarantee you that both the 390 and 970 won't be able to max out any of the Q4 games at 1080p, forget 1440p. The 970 will have arguably more headroom as it can overclock like a beast compared to the 390 which is almost at its limit since its already factory overclocked by amd as it's an overclocked and rebranded 290.
>>333249202
you will never get 390 performance with a 290 even with overclocking. People who claim this are just desperate nvidiots looking for any excuse to shit on amd.
>>333241742
>>333249202
"290X's original launch price of $550"
god damned retards I swear
>>333249271
>The 970 will have arguably more headroom
Not with cucked 3.5gb of ram. You're better off with a the 8gb 390.
>>333249271
Except the 970 has no DX12 support, while the 390 has plenty of performance to spare with DX12. and it's not like you couldn't OC the 390 a bit, maybe even unlock some cores depending on the 390 you get as well.
also games really don't move that fast, try Q4 2017
games are about playable frame rates, not graphical quality unless really low graphical quality affects gameplay
is the 780 ti still considered good? I feel like its really starting to show its age and not sure whether to put her down or not.
Enjoy your 3.5gb of ram.
>>333243267
>play bethesda game
>lose tons of fps because of ItJustWorks(tm) by Toddsoft
>>333241905
>87°C
LAWRENCE
>>333249446
You tell me.
>on par with low end 960.
>>333249446
the 7970 was always a better choice and beat it after driver improvements
also Nvidia is gimping kepler performance in some gameworks games, either deliberately or just by not working on the drivers for kepler cards, they've fixed it for Witcher 3, dunno if they fixed the drop in performance for Fallout Patch 1.3
>>333241905
Do you have a 500-600W decent quality PSU? also are you talking about a 380 or 390? for a 380 you could get away with a 450W PSU
>>333249573
it would actually perform better on a previous patch
>>333249573
>That 750ti
This card was the biggest meme card after 970.
Doesn't even hold for a year after people shilling it for months.
>>333240072
I'm turning 21 on the 19th!
>>333241905
> he has a prebuild gateway
>>333249354
>it's that 8gb ram meme again
No game at 1080p will use more than 4gb vram. Even gta 5 on a 980 with everything on very high/ultra with long shadows on doesn't use more than 3.5gb vram at 1440p, so at 1080 it'll use way less.
https://youtu.be/OCBO5TNeaHc
Vram is almost never the limiting factor. Your 390 will hit the floor before it even gets close to maxing out that 8gb ram. It's a totally absurd amount of ram for cards like these. Even an entry level 4k card like the 980 ti has only 6gb ram and the fury x has only 4gb.
I play skyrim with the 4k texture mod alongside many other mods and I use max 3.1-3.2 gb vram at any time on my 980 at 1440p.
All memes and product wars aside, I recently built my first computer and I got a 980. Are good cards normally really loud? As soon as I turn on a game that isn't on low settings the fans sound like a fucking jet engine. I just wanted to know if this is normal.
>>333249573
>fallout 4 patch 1.3
Nothing to see here people. It was a gimped update that fucked with the shaders on nvidia cards which was quickly patched by an nVidia driver like 2 days later and everything is normal now. Don't taken this as an actual benchmark.
>>333249573
so is the r9 fury x the best 600$ card right now? I haven't used amd in years, I remember thier driver support not being that good.
>>333250062
Limit framerate
>>333250070
>Nvidia gameworks game
>gimped
lawd, what an irony.
>>333249480
DELETE THIS
>>333250097
If you bought either Fury or 980, then you are dumb.
If you don't understand the reason, you are beyond retarded.
If you don't care about money and still buy either of them, then you are rich and dumb.
>>333249648
You can pretty much get away on a 450w PSU on any single GPU config. My whole setup including my monitors and speakers drains about ~350w playing games like Ark and GTA V.
Overclocked 5820k and 980ti
>>333250419
I'm just wondering which cards are good this generation
>>333241053
>>333240840
>>333239787
I've recommended a friend of mine the R9 390. For his ''first'' gaymen pc. It's a really good card, he could pretty much max GTA V with a 2560x1080p screen. Except for AA but in my opinion that wasn't even necessary with how good it all looked.
>>333250630
This gen almost end.
>>333250439
That's because nvidia cards are extremely efficient. A 390x build can pull 477w from the wall, 150 more than an equivalent 980 build.
>>333250685
almost certain they are going to try to force win 10 on the next cards just like they are doing cpus now
>>333250740
Over 150w more*
Who cares about any of this shit?
>>333250773
I don't remember /v/ complaining about need to upgrade to 7 just because of game like Stalker need a directx 11 to looks good?
And you are retarded if you think AMD and Nvidia only try to achieved DX12 performance in their new lineup.
>>333250740
Ouch. I didn't realize the difference was that big.
>>333250898
>And you are retarded if you think AMD and Nvidia only try to achieved DX12 performance in their new lineup.
the jews at microsoft have deep pockets, intel's skylake is losing support 3 years early for example
>>333251103
I don't get the point of your babbling when I'm still using sandybridge CPU and still having great performance for my gayming in the last 5 years.
Also, next gen GPU will solved CPU to GPU tasking so it will make old CPU more powerful then it used to be when its still in DX11 environment where everything are retardedly heavy on GPU.
So, is the next set of Nvidia card supposed to be the "holy fuck dump your current card now" generation, or is that the set after next?
>>333251354
Every next set of new Nvidia cards in any years are "holy fuck dump your current Nvidia card now"
I'm not even joking, that's why Nvidia card is count as richfags cards.
>>333251354
The gp 104 cards like the 1060, 70 and 80 are apparently baser on maxwell so any driver updates they get should benefit any 9xx card since they're based on the same architecture. I think pascal is only the gp 100 which are the high end 1080 ti and titan cards.
It's all speculation though as far as I know. We should know more today after nvidias keynote event.
OP here, fell asleep for an hour and now I still don't know what card to get, I thought about the 390 but then Nvidia kids came in and started shitting on it. Is there a card that exists/will exist in the next two weeks that can compete with the 390 in performance and price?
>>333252859
>Is there a card that exists/will exist in the next two weeks
No.
Buy Nvidia now, get jew'd by Nvidia itself when Pascal came out because muh Async, muh DX12.
Buy 390 now, you are safe for another years because it already Async and DX12 ready.
>>333252859
Yes, the 970.
>>333254812
>>333254001
Christ
>>333249951
>No game at 1080p will use more than 4gb vram.
That's one of the biggest lies that nvidiots shill over and over. It just proves they know nothing.
Games are made to use as much ram as you got. If your card has 4gb of ram, then your mobo, your OS and game will limit itself to use only 4gb of ram and not over. If you have 8gb of ram, then the game will limit itself to 8gb. That's how it really works.
Alternatively... when nvidia lies about it's ram and doesn't tell anyone, it harms the framerate and gameplay. The 970 does have 4gb of ram... however what they don't tell you is that .5gb of that is some shitty slow ass ram. If your card needs to access that .5gb of ram for important shit... then your will slow to a crawl like shown in >>333249480 (this was all in 1080p btw). Not all games need to use the last .5gb of ram for important shit.. sometimes it's just minor stuff that doesn't affect your frames.... but when it does need it... you're fucked.
> Even an entry level 4k card like the 980 ti has only 6gb ram and the fury x has only 4gb.
Fury X uses HBM, which is much faster than GDDR5. 4gb of HBM can basically keep up with 12gb of gDDR5. That's why future cards are going to start using HBM instead of gDDR5, including nvidia cards.
For example,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMZzURcawws
I have a question.
I've had an HD5870 for the longest time, maybe for the last 6 to 7 years or so. I got it when I first built my computer and its held up pretty well, even now. It's just showing its age a little bit. Would the R9 390 or the 970 be the best upgrade from my current card? People were saying the 390 was better prepared for the future or something, so should I go with that or should I wait for something else?
I'm not in a huge rush to get it. I just haven't kept up with anything graphic card related up until now.
>>333255082
Get 390.
970 is for dumb nvidia fanboys who don't research and will defend nvidia until their last breath while being cucked by nvidia. It's a fucking meme cards for a reason.
>>333255060
THIS WHOLE POST
AHAGAGAGAGAGAHAGAHDJHDJSKSBCNNSKDBJWGDBDJ
GUYS, GUYS 4GB HBM ACTUALLY MEANS ITS 12GB. THE 4GB IS A LIE.
FUCKING KEK
>>333254863
Don't buy the 970 meme card.
>>333244557
While I'm neither here nor there on the AMD vs Nvidia vs. Price/Performance
Gsync is far superior to Free-sync and anyone not a card fanboy that has used both will confirm this.
G-sync has a much wider range where it works and a much higher range at that - if that's worth the markup price is a subjective judgement call - but objectively it's superior.
Nvidia are jews for locking down freesync though, and am sure they will unlock it once it gets rolled into the next display port standard.
If it were already unlocked I'd still pay more for the gsync tech.
>>333255285
I never said 4gb is 12gb. I said 4gb of HBM can do the work of 12gb of gDDR5.
This is why I hate trying to explain shit to nvidiots. They nitpick on one thing to try to shame you instead of using logic and reasoning.
980 ti
>>333255060
>Games are made to use as much ram as you got. If your card has 4gb of ram, then your mobo, your OS and game will limit itself to use only 4gb of ram and not over. If you have 8gb of ram, then the game will limit itself to 8gb. That's how it really works.
Holy shit I thought the ayymdrones in this thread were deluded but this guy takes the fucking cake.
A game will use as much ram as it's needs fucktard. If you have 8gb vram the game won't use all 8gb just because you have 8gb. It won't use 3gb for the actual game and then fill in the remaining 5gb with fucking air. You are beyond fucking retarded.
>Not all games need to use the last .5gb of ram for important shit.. sometimes it's just minor stuff that doesn't affect your frames.... but when it does need it... you're fucked.
This meme has been debunked so many times ayymdrones have to shill one picture of dodgy frame times which are in actual fact totally unrelated to the ram issue in one very unoptimized game. I'm not even going to argue about it since its not even an issue
>Fury X uses HBM, which is much faster than GDDR5. 4gb of HBM can basically keep up with 12gb of gDDR5. That's why future cards are going to start using HBM instead of gDDR5, including nvidia cards.
4gb is 4gb you fucking spastic. It's PHYSICALLY LIMITED to 4gb. That 4gb doesn't magically turn in 12gb ram.
My god AMDeluded are out in full force today.
>>333255670
>A game will use as much ram as it's needs fucktard. If you have 8gb vram the game won't use all 8gb just because you have 8gb. It won't use 3gb for the actual game and then fill in the remaining 5gb with fucking air
I never said it will use all 8gb if you have 8gb. I said it will LIMIT itself to the max amount of ram you have. The key word is LIMIT. You must be desperate to put words into other's mouths to defend nvidia.
> This meme has been debunked so many times
It hasn't. You're full of shit.
> 4gb is 4gb you fucking spastic.
Except it's a different type of ram. 4gb of HDM is much faster than 4gb of gDDR5.
> It's PHYSICALLY LIMITED to 4gb. That 4gb doesn't magically turn in 12gb ram.
You're right, it doesn't magically turn to 12gb. But HBM is just what much faster than gDDR5 that it doesn't need 12gb. Check that youtube video of madmax comparison for example. 4gb of HBM can keep up with all the other cards using gDDR5 and give pretty similar performance.
>>333238018
GTX 980.
Not the Ti. You can get the original 980 for a great price right now.
>>333255898
but with 980 ti, u get titan x perf for less than titan x price
>>333255894
>I never said it will use all 8gb if you have 8gb. I said it will LIMIT itself to the max amount of ram you have. The key word is LIMIT. You must be desperate to put words into other's mouths to defend nvidia.
You are seriously by far the most retarded person in this thread. You clearly have no knowledge about how any of this works except some fucking wccftech clickbait posts or that amd shill adoredtv.
Games can exceed the ram limit retard. There are plenty of cases when a game uses more vram than there actually is and starts using the very slow system ram.
>It hasn't. You're full of shit.
Or you just haven't bothered to search for actual factual tests.
>Except it's a different type of ram. 4gb of HDM is much faster than 4gb of gDDR5.
Except that doesn't fucking matter if it's a different type of ram you utter fucking retard. 4gb is 4gb whether it's ddr3, gddr5 or hbm. Bandwidth may be different but it's still limited by its size which is 4gb. It's still inferior to the 980 ti or even the lower model 390/x in games that are massive vram hogs.
>You're right, it doesn't magically turn to 12gb. But HBM is just what much faster than gDDR5 that it doesn't need 12gb. Check that youtube video of madmax comparison for example. 4gb of HBM can keep up with all the other cards using gDDR5 and give pretty similar performance.
Ram doesn't dictate the performance of a card. Granted that slower ram can cause hiccups but I can't even be bothered to go into this since you're way too retarded. I mean, you actually and unironically believe that 4gb>12gb.
Please kill yourself.
>>333256391
It also comes with buyer's remorse when DX12 hits.
>>333256535
I don't understand this chart
>>333256508
> Games can exceed the ram limit retard.
Are you seriously claiming it can use more ram then it has? Where the fuck are you pulling all the extra ram from? Your arse?
> Except that doesn't fucking matter if it's a different type of ram you utter fucking retard.
see picture in >>333255492
Also see the madmax comparison video in >>333255060 where they did it all in 4k resolution.
> Ram doesn't dictate the performance of a card.
Enjoy your 3.5gb of ram. Seriously, you're a fucking retard.
> Granted that slower ram can cause hiccups but I can't even be bothered to go into this since you're way too retarded
You can't be bothered because you got no evidence and you're making shit up as you go.
> I mean, you actually and unironically believe that 4gb>12gb.
You're leaving out the fact that one is HIGH BANDWIDTH MEMORY and the other isn't.
> Please kill yourself.
No U.
>>333241368
AMD bahaha you fell for it. Why listen to the poor faggots on here. Hslf of them would kill to be able to afford decent parts
>>333256775
>Calls people "retard"
>has AMD GPU
>>333238018
Trust me OP.
Don't get AMD.
>>333257080
>>333256802
>>333256882
Why would I buy Nvidia desu? No one who recommended the Nvidia cards actually explained why, you're just calling AMD owners idiots and boasting about your parts being more expensive??
>>333254001
>get jew'd by Nvidia itself when Pascal came out because muh Async, muh DX12.
Most likely Pascal won't even support Async though
>>333256775
Nah seriously this is some A++ trolling. You got me good man. I thought you were actually serious for a second there.
>>333256775
>>333256508
>Games can exceed the ram limit retard. There are plenty of cases when a game uses more vram than there actually is and starts using the very slow system ram.
So you admitted 3.5GB is a problem for 970?
>>333257156
Hang on you are 15. Go spunk the money on an AMD, then come back crying saying you wish you hadnt bought one.
>>333257648
it uses 4gb, im sorry do you think that .5 doesnt work?
I have a 970 not had any issues with it & it runs games on high/max at top end fps no problems.
>>333247313
Laughed my ass off
>>333257648
It can happen to any graphics card retard. If you go past the 2gb ram in a fucking 380 it'll use your system ram (8gb, 16gb or whatever). The same goes for any gpu.
Educate yourself before you reply fucktard.
>>333241053
source plox!
>>333242360
This chart is honestly just making me hungry for the next line of cards. Shame that means sitting on my 670 until probably September or something for 1070 equivalent.
>>333257748
>it uses 4gb, im sorry do you think that .5 doesnt work?
The problem isn't that it has 4gb or that the last .5gb works. The problem is that it's some slow ass shit and nvidia didn't tell anyone. People found out the hard way.
Idiots like you are actually defending these practices. Do you like being cucked?
When will the new gen graphic cards come out? I'm planning on building a new PC, but I want to wait and see what comes out first. Don't wanna wait too long though.
>>333258982
I actually thought you had a valid point in that post , right up until you showed yourself as a child by posting "cucked".
another sheep in here
>>333259128
If a simple insult invalidates a entire argument for you... then maybe it's because you're looking for any excuse to avoid the truth.
You're pathetic.
>>333259258
No its the word you used. Fucking obsession with such a dumb word.
Try being articulate and find other words, not just ones the kiddies post on here.
Wow im avoiding what truth? a bit of plastic and metal I bought isnt 100% right? if that is life changing for you, go outside for a bit!!!
Oh and what gpu have you got then ?
>>333259128
>ad hominem
>>333259114
id say around the end of may/june
i also wanna upgrade now but its probably worth waiting for the price drop
>>333259818
That sucks, I wanted to be able to play DS3.
>>333239787
Truly the best one right now. Also, don't believe the "housefire" memes. And buy the shapphire ones.
>>333260338
i may be wrong though, we will find out more today
>http://www.gputechconf.com/
A Google search says 980ti supports dx12, so does it support it or not?
Obviously the 980ti is more powerful than the r9 390 but is that true for higher resolutions as well?
Will getting the 980ti have me settled for at least a year?
Will my i5k be a bottleneck of I get the 980ti?
>>333261331
Well... 980ti technically supports it... but it gains nothing from DX12. Meanwhile... AMD cards gain a shitload. Even their processors gain a shitload.
970 has the best bang for your buck even if it's 3.5
second best bang for your buck are the 980 and 980ti tied for second place. I'd just save up for a 980ti
>>333259490
>No its the word you used. Fucking obsession with such a dumb word.
No need to go apeshit and throw a entire argument out the window just because you were offended. Grow thicker skin.
>Try being articulate and find other words, not just ones the kiddies post on here.
Nigga, this is 4chan. Not your safe space. Deal with it.
>Wow im avoiding what truth?
Claiming a insult invalidates the entire argument is pretty much running away from the truth. You can't handle the truth.
> a bit of plastic and metal I bought isnt 100% right? if that is life changing for you, go outside for a bit!!!
Take your own advice. Seriously.
>Oh and what gpu have you got then ?
What does that have to do with anything?
>He's still loyal to a particular brand
