Holy fucking shit, why is Episode Duscae so good, while Platinum Demo is so shit?
>Platinum Demo
-chase after these enemies who all run from you
-do the Alice in Wonderland level of Kingdom Hearts
-fight this boss with no combat tutorial
-hold the button to attack
-closed world
-no context
>Episode Duscae
-robust tutorial
-dodging/parrying/rolling/warping
-multiple weapons to equip
-techniques
-mission and open world
-part of the main story
-cute, busty mechanic
>>333199979
Duscae was based on old build when Nomura was still head dev.
PD is from Tabata's reign.
It's well known fact Tabata completely raped the game.
They thought peoples would get mad is a free demo was better than a paid one.
Platinum is a TECH DEMO. It's inerently worse than a demo. And made by irrelevant peoples.
>>333200576
There was no Nomura heading FFXV
>>333200831
>There was no Nomura heading FFXV
Epic meme, name change happened under Nomura still.
Tabata didn't replace him until late 2014.
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/19/4444292/tetsuya-nomura-and-why-final-fantasy-versus-13-became-final-fantasy-15
the combat in platinum demo is much better they just retardedly made only the iron giant fight have all the features, they should of made that area a debug mode to fight hordes of enemies rather than just one big one
>>333201340
They didn't ease you in to that fight. If you haven't played Duscae, you have no idea what you're doing.
>>333202078
I can confirm this, I never played Duscae and had no idea what I was supposed to do or how to the warp attacks.
I went back ad played Duscae just because something felt off about the Platinum demo and dammit I'm sad now. Really hope there's more to FFXV than what was shown cause if not than Jesus Tabata really just said "I'm too old for this."
>>333203743
Did you people disable tutorials or something? Everything is listed on the right side of the screen.
>>333200576
This false
>>333205837
Even Carbuncle tells you multiple times
The demo does not tell you how to do directional moves, but that's about it
Duscae's combat is shit, Platinum at least has meaningful weapon choices.
>>333205970
This false
>>333200576
Nomura didn't have any "old build" to speak off.
Platinum Demo is worse than Episode Duscae because while the former is just a tech demo with no connection to the game, the latter is an actual section of the main game.
The platinum demo was mostly to showcase the lighting, particles and weather effects, along with the magic system.
Is it still possible to get Episode Duscae? The combat in that looks way better, I'd love to try it.
>>333207547
Nope
And Square does not allow it to be played via Shareplay
>>333207547
>The combat in that looks way better
It's not. And there aren't any enemies that are as fun to fight as the Iron Giant, it's all trash mobs.
>>333208908
I think it wouldve been nice to have a plate that just spawn 10 solider or 10 goblins into the new demo
The Iron Giants AI is stupid as fuck and by himself might as well just be a pillar
Sure you can hit im with shit, but that won't make it more fun the 10th time
>>333207547
>>333207926
Yes, there is. The codes still work. I just bought Type-0 today.
>>333207926
Damn, that sucks.
>>333208908
How is it not? I see people saying this, but they never go into it. The whole concept of having different weapons set to different parts of your combo seems really cool.
I hope the Platinum Demo combat isn't what we're getting in the final game.
>>333209135
But do all the copies of Type-0 have the codes? I was told it was only the first batch of them.
WHEN THE NIGHT
>>333209171
>having different weapons set to different parts of your combo
I prefer being able to manually switch weapons when I want desu.
>>333209115
I agree, that would have been great.
>>333209286
Local store still have the day one edition for me, just look around.
>>333209171
Having weapons limited to different parts of the combo isn't interesting at all, it just limits your options, but not in a way that makes you make tough decisions or anything. Think about it, you've got a weapon that is ONLY used for your first strike, one that is ONLY used for your finishing strike, one that is ONLY used for jump attacks, etc, with no option to switch without pausing and changing which weapon equipped in which slot. It turns every encounter in a simple exercise with no options for you. You really do just hold O.
In Platinum you have a lot more playstyle options since you can switch weapons freely. Your weapon choices are also a lot more interesting than what we got in Duscae.
>>333209171
The thing is that we barely have any tools in the Platinum Demo
People will just show you their webms up bashing on the giant with air combos and shit, but there's nothing impressive about it, the demo should've added different kind of enemies like multiple small ground enemies, multiple airborne enemies and maybe 2 giants at once, because the air combos wouldn't get them far in that situation ,but you could try out the aerial combat against the airborne enemies
The shield could also be tried out more
Yes the giant is fun to fight, but it's slow as fuck, dumb as fuck and after you've fought him 3 times you most likely will never get hit again
I know the demo was rushed, but it was too rushed
>>333209694
>but it was too rushed
Yeah apparently they just got a few people to throw it together in 2 months, they shouldn't have even bothered if that's the case.
>>333209694
Remember the shield and shuriken are hidden and a lot of people missed them.
>>333210037
Then they could've added another plate to actually use those shurikens on
All they do in the demo is make the Gint Iron fight even easier than it already is
>>333199979
Gang bang doujin when?
>>333209983
Yeah, the demo was fun and is a good showcase of what the demo can do
But in the state that it is in it wasn't the smartest move Square could've pulled, it could potentially scare off buyers, because not every found out all those things about the combat and not everyone follows the news 24/7 to know that the performance and graphics are not final
It was just a rather stupid idea, hy not announce the demo at the event and release it one month later to actually put effort into it
>>333209983
>they just got a few people to throw it together in 2 months
Source?
>>333210560
http://www.ffdream.com/news-15871.html
>Developed in two months by a small team
Anyone else thought some of the magic was too much? Like rain and meteorain. It covered the entire screen with light and it makes it hard to fight.
>>333210831
It was probably just to showcase the engine, since you can't even be hurt as small noctis anway and can only perform one combo
But throwing two meterains and two raindrops was almost too much, i'm surprised my console didn't explode
>>333200576
I swear if they got rid of what was in Duscae and replaced it with the shit we saw in the Platium demo I am going to be so fucking mad
https://youtu.be/FVuhS1ZSKg4?t=117
Is this giant a summon or an enemy?
>>333207547
>>333209135
>>333209286
I recently bought Type-0.
I asked the lady, I assume she was a manager, if the codes still worked.
She pulled out the code, (I was at FUCKING GAMESTOP) and the date was getting close to expiring so I bought it.
Code worked.
>>333211083
That's Titan, he'll be a summon that it seems like you'll have to fight first.
>>333211224
Do you remember when the codes expire? I'm kinda short on cash so I have to wait to go paid.
>>333211083
It's Titan and the other thing is Leviathan both summons
I really hope there'll be another Bahamuth in the game
>>333211380
Just pulled it out, I never throw away the papers.
Says it ended March 17 of 2016.
Sorry friendo, maybe there are ways to get it somehow else.
>>333211568
IIRC Bahamut has been in every mainline game so I'm sure there will be.
All this time and money for THIS?
I hope this one is a nail in squeenix's coffin. Everything just kept slowly going to shit with the addition of enix.
>>333212063
>All this time and money for THIS?
Very little time and money was spent on this demo.
>>333199979
A lot of you kids are missing the point of Platinun Demo. It's supposed to be a tech demo. It shows off lighting, weather effects, magic, and even the driving mechanics. People who didn't pay for Episode Duscae just got a watered down version of the combat, and understandably so.
>>333211892
Even Bravely Default had Bahamut, even if he wasn't a summon and just a sub-boss.
>>333212063
Most of the time of FFXVs development want into FFXIV
>>333212314
>It's supposed to be a tech demo
>Is full of technical issues
Good job Square.
>>333212314
I can't blame a lot of people though, i enjoed the demo but as
>>333210431
said, it wasn't the best idea
>>333211603
Dang, that sucks. I guess I'll just hope the game is good.
>>333211603
>Says it ended March 17 of 2016.
>"I SWEAR, FF15 WAS PERFECT IN THE DUSCAE DEMO. OH, IT'S EXPIRED? SORRY MAN, GONNA HAVE TO TAKE MY WORD!"
Fuckin FFXV-kun. Slipperier than a jew.
>>333212624
FFXV-kun would never defend an earlier build of a demo
The new thing is always the best
>>333212514
I missed that post, but he has a point. Right now I'm looking at a lot of uninformed retards ITT. It would have been best to just leave it at Episode Duscae.
Itt: fags who were poor enough not to get the underrated final fantasy type 0 hd day one edition. Lel
Anyway. There's an area in the game where you listen to the radio and it's so good. Only good thing that happened on episode duscae
God I hope I can play dress up. That was the only good thing about FF13.
>>333213002
>underrated final fantasy type 0 hd day one edition.
No Anon that game was a piece of shit on PSP and an even bigger piece of shit on consoles.
>>333213002
>underrated
I liked the demo, but Type0 was the definition of mediocre, like all of Tabatas games before it
WHEN THE NIGHT
>>333213038
>>333199979
platinum demo is just a tech demo basically.
none of that happens in the actual game and most of the stuff in there was to show off the game's rendering engine. that's why there are 3 weapons which are just particle effects and you can change time of day and weather.
>>333213002
>buy Type 0 last month
>got the day one edition
lol get rekt son
>>333213338
That is so sexy.
>>333213002
>There's an area in the game where you listen to the radio and it's so good
Errr. wait wtf where?
>>333213002
>underrated final fantasy type 0 hd day one edition
No, Type 0 gets rated fairly. The only thing it did well was having really cool locations for missions, like fleet of airships in a battle trapped in a frozen sky. Rem was the stereotypical never-does-wrong but is terminally ill and won't tell anyone because she is naive. Machina was angsty about how he couldn't trust the class, blamed them for their brother's death, and was an overall bitch when he could have been fucking Rem. Rest of the class is as about as shallow as the cast from Chrono Cross. And grinding is horrendous if you want to make use of the different play styles and have depth.
So do the codes still work or not? The expiration date was last month but some are saying they can still be redeemed?
>>333213264
>WHEN THE COPYRIGHTED SONG
And to think. I actually thought it was a good song.
>>333206302
>>333205837
No, it isn't. I didn't even know you could warp, because they never told you.
>>333211074
>I swear if they got rid of what was in Duscae and replaced it with the shit we saw in the Platium demo I am going to be so fucking mad
What "shit" are you referring to?
>>333214140
I definitely remember it saying triangle was to warp somewhere on the screen, you must have missed it.
>>333214140
As soon as you get the ability from carbuncle he says it once and everytime you look even remotely to the direction of a warp point it just says hold traingle right in the middle of the screen
>>333209286
>>333211224
>>333211380
>>333211603
>>333212543
>>333212624
>>333212727
If you have the AMERICAN version of the game (says global on the back), the code still works, even though it supposedly expired 3/17/16. As proof, I just bought copy today, and the code worked. My brother, however, bought a Region 2 version of the game. The insert in his game says the code expires 3/20/17. He tried the code today, and it doesn't work. Make sure the copy you buy
1. Is new.
2. Says it has the code on the box.
3. Has pic-related on the back.
>>333214140
>No, it isn't. I didn't even know you could warp, because they never told you.
The demo is messed up. I was almost about to kill the boss and I still didn't get the Carbuncle dialogue to warp.
I had to purposely get hit and run towards Carbuncle to finally get warp (to building).
So far the OST sounds amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSkpr4LPT8w
>>333213617
>Machina was angsty about how he couldn't trust the class, blamed them for their brother's death, and was an overall bitch when he could have been fucking Rem. Rest of the class is as about as shallow as the cast from Chrono Cross.
Yeah the characters are dull
>And grinding is horrendous if you want to make use of the different play styles and have depth
I'm aware most don't but some people like grinding, replaying the missions on hard to get overpowered magic and summons was fun.
Also there was an easy mode for people who hate grinding in Type-0 HD.
I honestly believe that if the HD version visually looked good, then a lot more people would enjoy Type-0. They should've just ported it to Vita, the psp version looked fantastic for a psp game.
>>333213264
I teared up. It fit so well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVrnS26mnCA
>>333214937
>>333214140
You are supposed to defeat the boss first to unlock the warp thing and you can only do it with the one handed sword. If you dont have it equipped the text wont appear.
>>333214980
Even if the rest of the is by any chance not good, the OST will be amazing again
>>333215042
Why?
>>333214980
>>333215190
Still my favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drdQExvXuJo
>>333214140
You need to have certain weapons equipped to warp.
>>333214446
I hope I can just turn that off in the final game. The highlighted blue warp point is enough for me.
>>333215285
Because its emotional and it fits with the story and brotherhood theme anon. Gosh.
>>333212206
I meant the whole game, shitpost kun.
I've played through both demo's now and know exactly what to expect. Game's gonna be garbage.
If you're all smart you'll just buy the 10 remake and enjoy x-2, the second best final fantasy game ever made.
>>333215285
>stand by me
>bunch of scenes where Noct's bros are saving his life and just being bros
>>333215365
So how does Cidney work? Your car can run out of gas, break and you can call her GTA mechanic style?
>>333215593
>>333215427
>I meant the whole game
Which we haven't got yet
>I've played through both demo's now and know exactly what to expect
You played through one that was based on a build that was outdated even when it was released and another that was just thrown together in a couple months by a few guys, not even the main team.
>x-2, the second best final fantasy game ever made.
And you call me the shitposter.
>>333215479
I hope so, that way I can keep on running out of gas just to see here again.
>>333215042
>muh roadtrip
>you guys remember stand by me RIGHT!!
>>333215427
Did you like final fantasy 13? If so, you might like this. If you didn't it's more of the same with an even shittier battle system.
Do what you like pal, but i'm calling it now this is one to avoid. 64 on metacritic.
>>333215862
What makes you compare it FFXIII?
>>333215862
>it's more of the same
One was hallways: the video game and the other is completely open world. One was turn based the other is real time. How is it more of the same?
>>333215862
Alright, i'll screencap this and see you in a few months
>>333215862
>an even shittier battle system.
Kill yourself shitposter.
>>333215039
I will say that even though it had some awful grind with bad story, Cinque made my dick hard as diamonds and was my favorite to use.
xiii
>completely linear
>hallway simulator
>turn-based
>edgy cloud with tits who's the director's waifu
>yuribait to hook NEET otaku
>nonsense plot without any relatable themes
xv
>exploration and sidequests
>open world
>real-time
>MC has real emotions, weaknesses, and conflicts
>bromance and heterosexual romance
>themes of living up to your father's expectations, standing by your friends, and holding on to childhood promises
>>333216663
xv
>runs at 10 fps
>>333216934
And that makes it the same as XIII?
>>333217040
No but it makes worse.
>>333217123
A worse framerate does not make something worse than XIII overall. I would much rather play a good game with framerate issues.
>>333216934
First off it doesn't run at fucking 10 fps and i highly doubt the final game won't be improved
I dont even want to defend this shit, but as 99% of /v/ you're just overracting and shitposting
>>333213002
I bought Type 0 day one and that game was fucking unplayable until they patched the motion blur.
>>333217351
This.
The combat still feels shalom though
>>333207547
>>333207926
I bought a hacked Japanese PSN account with it and was able to download and play it no problem. If you can find a account with it or a friend who has it you should be good.
>>333199979
Why is this copy pasta? Wtf?
>>333217890
Shallow... shit
>>333217890
That it is, they've got less than 6 months to fix it, let's hope they don't just spend that time refining the hair.
>>333217982
WTF?!?!?
>>333199979
>holding the button to attack
But you could do the same in Duscae
The combat system is by far not the best one out there, but just holding the attack button won't get you through the game
Sure it will work against some smaller weaker enemies and that's what it's probably meant for otherwise you would have to tap a button for 50 hours
But against a boss i doubt it will get you far
