Which one has a greater potential for video games?
>>333197042
neither since both variants have been milked to hell and back
both would probably still make millions though
>lord of the memes
>game of memes
Neither
>>333197042
>Big ass magical war vs political drama
Geez OP I don't know
How is that one non-telltale GoT game?
All I know is that it's an action RPG.
>>333197042
Where is the Shadow of Mordor sequel? I thought that was a good enough demo for them to be able to make a full game, it sold well enough right? Some dipshits were even desperate enough to give it game of the year.
And we didn't get to see one location from the books / movie, just Mordor when it looked like the most boring place ever. And the whole tiny map had the same boring terrain.
They made their money, they should make us a full game where we get to see real Mordor or Moria or Erebor or fucking anywhere awesome. And please no stupid revenge story, at least make it less offensive to Tolkien if it's gonna suck.
>>333198127
>Big ass magical war
Yeah with like one fucking battle.
>>333197992
>meme this
>meme that
>meme everything
stop already
>>333198313
Shit
>>333198360
>one battle
even the Jackson trilogy has... way more than one battle
>>333197720
its an interesting moment when you realize the hero of LOTR was Sam, not Frodo
>>333197042
Lotr because at least it isn't fan fiction tier trash
>>333197042
one for man-children power fantasy rpg
one for hardcore patrician roleplaying
>>333197042
lotr with all magic and shit has more potential for game mechanics
>>333197042
GOT could make a great social game if they made it like Diplomacy / Subterfuge. A game about backstabbing. Maybe add in some Dokopon Kingdom stuff. There's a big overlap between GoT fans and fantasy sports fans, there would be a similar signup period / season length. Anyone agree?
>>333197858
well if you take Tolkien's works broader there's always the Silmarillion
can you imagine a more badass boss battle than THIS?
>>333197042
strider
>>333197042
>tfw no non-canon game of adventuring with a party of the hound, jaimie, the imp and jaded stannis
;_;
>>333198359
>be me
>waiting for Shadow of mordor
>finally get it
>play 2 hours
>into the trash it goes
>>333198537
my fucking nigger
spent the entire fucking journey next to the ring, took it from frodo and GAVE IT BACK, didn't even get nearly as corrupted as boromir did just by laying eyes on it
sam is who smeagol could have been
>>333197042
LOTR, if we go by the movies, much more action oriented
>>333198537
Yeah, because he's Tolkien's self-insert.
>>333198359
warner bros is too busy being retarded
>>333198313
Good but shit after the 4th or 3rd episode
>>333199335
>didn't even get nearly as corrupted
Sam is the only character in the book that simply cannot be corrupted by the ring.
It shows him his greatest dream, and what does he do?
"Well if I had a garden that big, I'd never be able to tend it"
and he just fucking hands it back.
Mother Fucking Samwise.
>>333199438
given tolkien was a highly educated man I doubt sam could qualify as a true self insert
I think a GoT game would have a lot more potential
>RPG
>can choose which family to be born into
>get to explore locations corresponding to the family including king's landing, iron islands, winterfell, etc
>if you commit a serious crime you get sent to the wall and join the night's watch
>>333197042
LOTR is more about adventuring and huge battles. GOT is more about the characters and drama. So I'd say LOTR has the greater potential for games. That said, we already have a ton of LOTR games. And on top of that, the vast majority of fantasy games out there are Tolkien inspired in many, many ways (Dragon Age, Elder Scrolls, even The Witcher). So, I'd much prefer to see some more quality games in the GOT universe. It's every bit as vast and complex as LOTR and I, for one, am fucking tired of elves and dwarves.
>/tv/-/lit/ Game of Thrones
>/v/ TLOR
>>333199545
nah Sam could be corrupted by the ring if he held onto it long enough, in the end nobody could have destroyed the ring willingly not even Sam
the only characters who'd be truly immune to its corruption would be Tom Bombadil because he simply doesn't give a fuck, Sauron for obvious reasons and the few characters in the mythos with powers greater than Sauron's at his fullest extend
>>333197042
There have been good LotR games.
There has never been a good GoT game.
>>333199438
Faramir is Tolkien's self-insert.
I wouldn't play GoT games but I would make characters from it in souls.
Lotr games were pretty shit, gandalf is a badman though.
your answer is basically don't do it.
>>333199817
Well, the Telltale Game's titles are alright, but they're not really 'games' in the traditional sense. GoT is in desperate need of a good WRPG game. I never played the one they released, but I heard it was shite. Anyone here play it?
> GoT
> potential for video games
Yeah it would be absolutely great if your main character gets killed 10% into the game and you get some other cuck, and then another and another until you can't give a single shit about the story anymore.
God I hate GoT. Oberyn's death broke my will to watch the show any further.
>>333197042
>lotr vs a glorified telenovela in the most boring fantasy setting
whoa
>>333197042
>be me
>learn to pirate games
>shitty graphics card can only play ps3 games
>try shadows of mordor
idky but I really liked this game. I loved the enemy system and for some reason every time I looked into someones mind the animations and lines the guy would say never got old to me lol.
>>333199438
Sam's way too poor to be Tolkien's self-insert
>>333199438
>Yeah, because he's Tolkien's self-insert.
Tolkien wasn't a cuck like Martin who self-deprecates by identifying with a beta character like Samwell Tarly.
Tolkien's self-insert wasthe human warrior Beren, who got the hottest elf pussy and greatest wife in existence with Luthien Tinuviel (whom he based on his wife).
>>333199438
Tolkien said Bilbo was his self insert.
>>333200314
>Boring Fantasy setting
>If it isnt the whored fantasy setting everyone else use, its boring
GOT is based, no matter how much naysayer hipsters want to deny it.
>>333199545
good point, i said 'nearly' because of when he hesitates before he gives the ring back to frodo after shelob's tunnel, but now that i think about it he was probably hesitating out of frodo's safety
>>333200689
GOT is basically fantasy war of the roses, yet somehow actually managed to be less interesting than the real thing
>>333197042
Could see GOT making a better RPG but LOTR better for action and strategy games.
>Leave Sauron to me
>>333197042
>one dane and one half-dane
What is their secret?
>>333197042
GoT for RTS
LotR for anything else
>People think Game of Thrones has better writing and a more interesting plot
>>333202329
Whichever one has better writing is up for debate but it GoT definitely has a more interesting plot.
Generic fantasy quest is boring now.
>>333202329
m-muh draygons
>>333202329
It is.
TLOR just have some decent lore for kids, but thats about it.
>>333197042
>Basically every high fantasy game has its roots in LotR somewhere and the franchise already has a ton of game adaptions
>GoT is mostly about political and character drama
>>333199289
same here senpai
Game of Thrones MUSOU
Think about it for a second.
The Mountain would be the Lu Bu equivalent.
The Imp would have a fun moveset
Mostly naked women
Story modes for each of the Five King's factions
Game fucking makes itself
Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water.
>>333202447
>Whichever one has better writing is up for debate
Let's compare:They followed him as he stepped lightly up the grass-clad slopes. Though he walked and breathed, and about him living leaves and flowers were stirred by the same cool wind as fanned his face, Frodo felt that he was in a timeless land that did not fade or change or fall into forgetfulness. When he had gone and passed again into the outer world, still Frodo the wanderer from the Shire would walk there, upon the grass among elanor and niphredil in fair Lothlórien.
They entered the circle of white trees. As they did so the South Wind blew upon Cerin Amroth and sighed among the branches. Frodo stood still, hearing far off great seas upon beaches that had long ago been washed away, and sea-birds crying whose race had perished from the earth.
...
At the hill's foot Frodo found Aragorn, standing still and silent as a tree; but in his hand was a small golden bloom of elanor, and a light was in his eyes. He was wrapped in some fair memory: and as Frodo looked at him he knew that he beheld things as they once had been in this same place. For the grim years were removed from the face of Aragorn, and he seemed clothed in white, a young lord tall and fair; and he spoke words in the Elvish tongue to one whom Frodo could not see. "Arwen vanimelda, namári!" he said, and then he drew a breath, and returning out of his thought he looked at Frodo and smiled.
"Here is the heart of Elvendom on earth," he said, "and here my heart dwells ever, unless there be a light beyond the dark roads that we still must tread, you and I. Come with me!" And taking Frodo's hand in his, he left the hill of Cerin Amroth and came there never again as living man.
vs
pic related
>>333203293
>Mostly naked women
go on....
>>333203774
Anyone who brings up that part as bad writing has automatically invalidated their opinion.
Nice try though :^).
>>333203884
Alright, how about you find better writing in GOT than what I posted from LOTR. :^)
>>333204275
You first :^)
Did anyone play Aragorn's Quest? Is it worth 10 dollary doos?
Is there any good GoT game/mod?
>>333204863
The one for Mount & Blade could have been good, but the creator went full retard.
>>333199438
With the broad definition of self-insert, it could be any character because they all have some parts that relate to the author.
>>333204958
which one? and how it went full retard?
>>333203774
Why are you autistic enough to think anyone will take your cherry picked comparison seriously?
>>333204863
The one for CKII is alright, but having a big megakingdom is kinda boring. The Warhammer mod is better, desu.
>>333205267
Basically any criticism of the game and he loses his shit and thinks he's perfect and nothing he does can be wrong.
>>333203774
> cherry picking this hard
A Song of Ice and Fire is a bit more complicated than just porn & gore. The mysteries, riddles, loyalties and conflicts are still confounding most of the audience.
For example: Who wrote the Pink Letter? What is Doran Martell up to? Who is the perfumed seneschal, who the mummer's dragon, and what is the pale mare? Are the Others really "other" rather than just a different self?
Tolkien has written a great epic tale of defeating manifest evil, leaving off on a sad note. Martin is more about the conflict of the human heart, and questioning things like absolute good and evil. If you want an inkling on how far his writing goes, check out Preston Jacobs vids on youtube.
>>333200807
except the wars of the roses is great you cunt
>>333205267
Random permanent stat loss for one.
Tolkien was just a better person than Martin. Like, everyone knows his writing is better, but as a person Tolkien was just morally superior. Tolkien was a produce of old English morality and the guiding light of Christendom, Martin is a product of America and their slaneeshi tier degeneracy, combined with the principles of Atheism. That is why the heart of Tolkien's work is greater.
>>333197042
LotR has the greatest potential but no game could ever match it's scale and grandeur. Also the hero's quest setting has been done to death now and that takes the wind out of it imo.
GoT has the most realizable potential, but I don't think it would be as good as a LoTR game simply because it's too dull.
>>333205594
>Dorne represents the struggle of women against the white patriarchy [...] it's right there, in the water-gardens, the brown girls knocks down the representative of white patriarchy in front of Doran Martell
If Preston Jacobs taught me anything it's that George was a massive fucking loser all throughout his life.
>>333198537
>>333199335
>Not knowing that this was Tolkien's idea
Sam is the hero because he was supposed to be
It's not like it isn't obvious that Sam was the hero and Frodo just the ringbearer/bait for Nazguls
Name a more badass moment than this.I dare you
>>333199335
Sam didnt get corrupted as much as Boromir because Sam wasn't a proud/vain guy
He was a basic hobbit with only a dream of gardening and living a happy and careless life with Rosie
Boromir was a proud human, and example to all soldiers of Gondor, who wanted to save Gondor
The call of the Ring is the most powerful to those with the most pride/vanity
>>333200807
>>333205892
Any good adaptions? I don't know much about it. Books, movies, series, I'm not picky.
>>333197042
>I would have followed you, my brother... My captain... My king.
>>333205267
A Clash of Kings
The author, Cozur, is some fuckwit
He adds shit nobody asks, like random permanent stat loss and then loses his shit when people complain
And when he loses his shit it means that he doubles down on bad decisions
>>333207002
>dat quote
>dat pic
How did the Hobbit have literally zero moments like that? The closest is when Bil Bono and Thorin make up but that's all I can think of. I can't even remember most of the deaths.
>>333197042
A LOTR game that is similar to the Return of the King game, but all the content is expanded more and the combat is slower, with a Souls approach to encounters. If you can do it, push in some additional levels that show moments from the Silmarillion.
RotK was the best LOTR game.
The most I want from a GoT game is a grand strat.
>>333206847
>adaptation
What's your favourite WWI adaptation?
>>333206584
Merry and Pippin being the first ones to charge after Aragorn, all alone, against MordorI know it's movie-only, but fuck you that moment was perfect
>>333197042The Black Company.
>>333207505
Well, The Hobbit was a literal children's book. That may have had something to do with it.
>>333197042
Boromir was the coolest member of the Fellowship.
prove me wrongyou can't
LOTR is almost encyclopedic. I findd it a chore to read now, yet loved it when I was younger. GoT is no better, though.
>>333198423
Well memed.
>>333205868
>The mysteries, riddles, loyalties and conflicts are still confounding most of the audience.
That's called bad writing.
>>333207891
Maybe the wrong word, I'm just looking for something that covers it.
>>333206584
I love how Morgoth is afraid and only comes out so his men don't think he's a pussy
>>333208225
I won't
I liked Boromir as well
The guy died trying his best after he realized he dun goofed
was the Witch-King LITERALLY invincible, or did his arrogance only trick him into thinking he was, after hearing the prophecy?
>>333208414
Not really true. Only if they are unintended mysteries with no solution to them. By your definition every murder mystery would be bad writing.
>>333208232
Maybe you'll find the The Very Hungry Caterpillar a better read then.
>>333204275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqv-UtJQk5Q
that
>>333208737
It was probably fate or something
>>333208783
> inb4 gurm is hack
What did he promise Lyanna? Protect Daenerys, or Jon Snow? Who is Lyanna's child?
>Game of Thrones would make a good video game
Hardly.
It really depends what you mean. Do you mean a game set in the world of either or a game based upon what the movies/TV show is like?
A game made to be like GoT would be terrible; a whole lot of talking then the occasional duel and a rare battle.
One way it could almost work is in a Strategy game akin to Divinity: Dragon Commander, although even then it'd be hard since there are actually fuck all battles in GoT compared to the amount of talking or walking scenes.
So you make a game ABOUT talking and then-oh wait, Telltale did that and it was shite.
LOTR is easy because it's "take item X to location Y to stop the big bad" meanwhile "big bad and good guys A, B and C fight here" and "slightly lesser but still significant bad fights good guys F here and here"
Very simple, and while yes the movies do have talking there is always forward momentum toward the next big fucking tussle.
GoT is a load of ambiguous "NOBODY is the good guys except the Starks but they're dead lol" which can work well for the TV show but in a video game how the fuck do you make that playable?
Pro tip: You fucking don't, and you stick to either only being GoT in world and name alone or you play Clash of Kings or the GoT mod for CSK2.
>>333208676
>selfless leader who just wants to do right by his people
>always puts the well-being of the citizens of Gondor first
>not too afraid to stand up to mighty Elf-Lords and Wizards when they get flippy about who's been paying for their safety
>eagerly accepts the prospect of Aragorn becoming king, and his help in the fight against Mordor
>good older brother and a positive influence on Faramir
>sympathetic to the needs and feelings of the Hobbits, doesn't bully those smaller than him
>friendly to elves, dwarves, and all other free peoples without reservations
>challenges the Balrog twice in the same encounter, to help protect Gandalf and the rest of the Company
>makes a mistake, his only flaw was being too overly-concerned with protecting his citizens
>makes amends by slaughtering a whole company of orcs, solo
literally the perfect party member
>>333197042
i dunno maybe the one that already has a shit ton of games?
LOTR by far
GoT is more fuse don characters and drama, all the battles, dragons, mysticism is just a backdrop. Isuppose you could make one about Robert's Rebellion but there isn't much game potential. The mods for mountain blade and crusader kings are the best you'll get
>>333209410
ASOIAF has some real potential for a grand strategy game
>Westeros Universalis
>>333208737
It's simply an Achilles heel, just how the One Ring is a Ring of Gyges. If it's prophecised that no man will be able to kill you, it's going to be something cosmically ironic like a woman, or an animal, or an inanimate object. Although the woman is the best choice, since nobody expects women to fight, thus ruling them out as adversaries.
Don't forget that Tolkien was clasically educated. Most of his writing style stems from British and Scandinavian history, as well as classic Roman and Greek writing.
>>333209551
Maybe before the show but now that it's normie shit you are required to make sure it sells 1 million copies at the minimum
>>333209340
>>makes a mistake, his only flaw was being too overly-concerned with protecting his citizens
>>makes amends by slaughtering a whole company of orcs, solo
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Everyone at the council meeting told him that using the ring would ultimately destroy the wielder, and give Sauron a chance to reclaim his prize. That he still holds on to the idea of using it is definitely and undisputably evil. He wants absolute power.
>>333209245
Its nigh on impossible to simulate the level of human interaction that Game of Thrones operates on. Everyone has different loyalties, interests, needs and wants, different culture and beliefs. That'll be hard to accurately simulate in a game.
The other option is going full TellTale, and have a railroad plot with a few diverging choices which will still end up getting youkilled.
>>333209551
Grand strategy games kinda blow, though. The visceral aspect is what makes GoT interesting, traveling around, experiencing the world, actually commanding battles or taking part in them, dialogue andsoforth. I always have the feeling that grand strategy is just a list of things to do. It's basically just a macrocosm, when GoT kind of needs both the big and the little picture.
>>333209967
I hate the show so much, anon. You truly do not comprehend the depths of my dislike.
lotr the constants battles between melkor against the valar in 1st and second ages and later against the other races a souls game on that time.
got the age of the heroes and before that time the battles of the first men and the children of the forest and with the new book out(the world of ice and fire) a game of horror with all the wtf mysteries of that book, made by team silent in the veins of silent hill
>>333207002
I actually have a large problem with that quote in that suddenly it seems like Boromir sees Aragorn as the rightful king. I while he very well might by the end of his life, it just doesn't seem in character for him to be worshipping this dude who fucked about in the forest most of his life instead of at his rightful thrown.
More than likely he would be freaking out that he's failed his people by dying, and believing the ring to have been lost. And probably ask Aragorn to at least save merry and pippin. Not "oh shit I really like you now even though you left me and my dickhead father to run your kingdom".
>>333208014
>the lady will never violently rape your mind, blushing as you divulge all of your lewd fantasies
feels bad
>>333197042
LOTR is in it's own class. Don't compare it to that trash, faggot.
>>333211161
in the book, Boromir accepts Aragorn as king from the start
>My friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBtzudk40pE
>>333211384
Yes but his death quote in the book is also about his people, not about some out-of-nowhere compliment for aragorn.
>>333207505
Contrary to what Hollywood wanted, The Hobbit was made for children.
The Hobbit films are frankly absurd.
>>333211538
>It's like in the Great Stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Dark and full of danger they were, and sometimes you didn't want to know the end, because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was, when so much bad had happened?
>Folk in those stories had lots of chances to turn back, only they didn't. They kept going, because they were holding on to something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlyYBtASteQ
>>333200437
>tolkien was born in the 1800s
I mean I guess that should have been obvious to me since he fought in WW1, but damn. Its hard to reconcile that with when the books came out.
>>333197992
>adding meme to anything you don't like
How art thou, child?
>>333209876
actually the woman thing was Tolkien voicing his critique on Shakespeare's Macbeth whereas the latter goes through quite a bit of effort to create a subversion on the "no man" theme, it would have been easier to just have a woman do it
>>333210337
which is why it was adapted into the Crusader King's series which is a blend between rpg and grand strategy
something similar to that, but maybe with more focus on the rpg aspect and personal decisions could work perfectly
>>333207505
The only difference anyone ever needs to know about the Hobbit films vs the Lord of the Rings films comes at the end of the first movies.
Both attempt an emotional moment where our two main heroes embrace each other in friendship. In Fellowship its Sam and Frodo in the boat (Don't you leave him Samwise Gamgee, and I dont mean to), in the other its Bilbo and Thorin on the mountain peak (Never have I been so wrong in all my life).
In one film, it feels as genuine and authentic as the real forest and river it was filmed in, in the other it feels as phony and fake as the CGI greenscreen mountain background the actors are projected against.
>>333214971
correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the former scene largely taken from the book while the latter is more made up?
>>333214971
hey, I thought that the actor who played Thorin did a pretty good job. He just had a shit script to work with
>>333215224
Yes, which just accentuates the point.
>>333215412
and it most certainly helps that frodo and sam's friendship was one of the central themes of the original books
friends who would (and actually did) go through hell and back for eachother
>>333201831
I will forever be mad NBC cancelled Hannibal. Fucking cucks going after the CBS market. I just wanted to see how they handled the Silence of the Lambs arc.
>>333200124
Literally any medium-low magic medieval game could be reskinned int a GOT game.
ASoIaF is generic as fuck unless you get deep into the characters...then its only slightly less generic..
>Middle Earth game
>first or second age
>original storyline and characters
>lore friendly
>huge, varied map
>detailed cities, towns, cozy taverns
>sense of scale and adventure that puts every other grand adventure game to shame
Never ever
>>333200124
The GoT universe works way, way better for strategy games than for something like Skyrim or The Witcher. That's why the ASOIAF mods for Crusader Kings or Total War are more popular than the ones for something like Mount and Blade.
Its fun to play as a political drama game, or a game about raising armies and painting the worldmap. But exploring and quest giving? Eh.
>>333216976
to be fair though the GoT mod is a lot less fun than the baseline game for CK2 given that there's much less macro scale interaction
>>333208536
Yeah. I bet he was sweating under his armor when he passed before his wholearmy thinking "those fucking pigs will get at my throat if I show them the slightest weakness"
>>333216908
>Middle Earth game
Scratch that
>Arda game
>tfw lotr is finished and nothing new will ever come from it
>tfw no stories from beyond even the 5th age
