What would you like to see in DD 2?
Lances
Lances that do more than just poke and thrust
>>333191072
More classes
Better Quest
More optional dungeons
NG+ that isn't trivialized if you have the best weapon from NG
That's it really
>>333191195
Lances would be cool
>>333191072
A grappler class
Granted, there's never been a grappler class in any video game that hasn't been either hot garbage or completely OP, but FUCK IT I WANNA WRESTLE WITH A FUCKING CYCLOPS
>>333191072
warrior class has 6 skills like all the rest and not just three
something revolving around fists only and like >>333191429 said, a grappler class
>>333191072
An actual RPG
>>333191072
A Mercedes spin-off
as great as the spells are, the casting and magic system is boring as fuck to play. change the casting or how you cast spells different so sorcerer doesn't feel boring to play
would also like to see expansion on how abilities work, like if you could add elemental damage or knockback effects, things like that to certain abilities
I will never get it because it doesn't git thematically, but a martial arts class.
More random dynamic events in the open world
Infinite sprinting
Less punishment to EXP for playing with pawns
More classes obviously, preferably a whole new colour branch.
Actual bosses, maybe like that SotC-esque boss that's in the art book.
More enemy variety.
More cuhrazy Arc of Deliverance screen freezes.
More environment variety
More pretty landscapes.
More missions like the Blue Moon Tower.
Ur Dragon was great, but make it more of a co-operative effort and less asynchronous.
Discipline points can fuck off
All that being said, this is still my second favorite game of all time, managed to get it on PC recently after loving it on PS3 and been having a blast playing MK.
>>333191072
Actual dungeons
Warrior with 6 slots
More reasons to use advanced vocations
Mage not being fucking useless
Better crafting system
Tweaked Level-Up/Vocation system
A more dynamic world. Randomized enemy spawns and events would make travel a lot more interesting.
I would also like to see stats/attributes be revamped heavily. Ideally, I think I would prefer to see leveling be axed entirely, or to have levels just give you more abilities rather than more raw power. The vast majority of enemies in Dragon's Dogma cease to be remotely threatening or interesting after a few hours of play, which is a shame.
Everything else I can think of is relatively minor, like having more content in general and giving warriors six skill slots.
More area variety
Randomized enemy spawns
More enemy types
Better pawn commands
more BBI. that's it
>>333191072
>DDO turns out to be a typical F2P trash MMO
>Barely any new enemies, loaded with reskins
>YES THEY GET FUCKING MUSCLE WIZARD
FUCK YOU TOO CAPCOM, FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU
More wind pushing
>>333191952
This is how you cast in DDO, this guy is doing it really fast though. Don't know if it's better or worse
>>333191967
>I will never get it because it doesn't git thematically, but a martial arts class.
>>333191072
4-player co-op
>>333192303
>Actual dungeons
Did you do Bitterblack, it's great
More of same really. Game is already near perfect to me.
>>333191642
DDO had a fist mage class
>>333195220
Oh my god
>>333191072
Maybe having more city hubs to visit would be a good start.
>>333191072
Lancer class, boxer / monk class, gunner class (Like, flintlocks and shit, fire fast, long reload)
>>333191429
This and an actual ninja class. Make it so you can run fast as fuck at night, debuff with dark shit or poison, and counter with some badass moves. Assassin and strider had the right track but would like it fleshed out more.
>>333195389
No, he said Grappler
that means being built around grabbing and throwing, not just casting fist
Bigger and more varied map.
Random spawns and more enemy types.
Just those would be a huge improvement.
aught
>>333191072
Aught
>>333191429
Dragon Wrestling never, but at least DDO got a hand-to-hand based class...r-right...?
>>333191072
Masterworks all you can't go wrong.
A little more environmental variety would be fantastic. I enjoyed Gransys but I wouldn't want most of the game to be open fields and forests again without something to mix it up.
So really, just one of the different regions.
>more varied areas
>bigger world in general
>randomized enemy spawns
>pawns able to be hybrid classes
>warrior gets 6 skills
>hybrid classes not being as OP
>better sidequests
>spears
>crossbows
>axes so MKs get a unique weapon that isn't just a sword reskin
>horses or some other way of getting around without ferrystones and portcrystals
>less boring magic
>elements besides fire and holy being useful
>no BS romance system and NPCs who leave the game without warning
>more early-midgame enemies besides ARMED BANDITS, ARISEN, wolves that hunt in packs, harpies and goblins, etc.
>NG+ actually being meaningful besides changing the final boss slightly
More enemy types
Better menus
More weapons
Warriors not gimped
More of the stuff cut from the first game like the moon
Romance system that isn't retarded
>>333195319
Because of idiots like you we got DD:O
Online system with co-op with other players instead of just their pawns just increase hp/damage, maybe give bosses more moves and add some special loot kind of like ur dragon
As long as they don't revolve they entire game around the mechanic it'll work fine.
I think that was in the original planning before it was cut.
>>333191072
Dragon's Dogma?
>>333191195
>Lances that do more than just poke and thrust
What you want is called a halberd
>>333195998
worst part about that entire thing is just how much DM fiat is needed for that entire action to even work within the setting because D&D hates monks
and pathfinder even more
>>333196937
just use the term polearm because if we're going to name individual ones we'll be here for a while
seriously though why is the sword considered to be "the" western weapon, god knows before we had our gun craze we went utterly nuts with the polearm design
>>333196937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hqsh6PhGXI
TERA has a badass lancer class too.
>>333197175
Because swords were primarily fashion accessories for rich people because they were expensive as fuck and hard to make, and therefore became a symbol of status.
Literally the exact same reasons Japanese are obsessed with Katanas.
>>333197280
>thrust
>poke
>shield bash
>thrust
>thrust
>poke
>>333191072
chance to see random large enemies in the open world, maybe even just bbi-like mechanics for the whole game
more enemy variety, a more complex combat system, warrior class with 6 slots, mystic knight class where you dont spend 50% of your playtime looking at buff animations.
less quests about running around in town more exploring places and finding new things to kill
make levels less important so everything isnt trivialized if you explore a bit to long and gain too many levels
better menu system
and a multiplayer mode set up like pso1
>>333197341
true enough I guess, still I'd love to see more medieval/renaissance inspired games that actually acknowledged just how much the west loved its polearms
its like people know about the phalanx and then just think we dropped the idea of putting our weapons on long sticks
heck barely any game ever had something similar to a Tercio despite it being for over 100 years THE most badass military formation in all of Europe
>>333197407
>dragoon jump 50 million feet in the air
>do some void knight shit and suck people in with your shield
>blink about the battlefield
>use that Mystic Knight kill that causes earthquakes and shit
did you actually look at the video
>>333197341
Except that's wrong, since the Roman's literally mass-produced their swords, which were of pretty damn good quality.
Not to mention nearly every hoplite had a back-up sword on hand.
It was mostly in the dark ages that you had swords being relegated to a much fewer percentage of people. Even then, they became more common again around the 12th, 13th centuries.
>>333197809
The issue is most games the player is a single person, and Spears and Polearms really showed their worth in a formation, so games don't have many opportunities to demonstrate that. Pike formations are godly in Total war games and such though.
>>333197838
not him but it was mostly a lot of poking around.
looked pretty boring except for the few spells where she actually did something exciting like jump
but it was mostly just a minute of a banana poking around with a giant banana peel
>>333197994
roman steel was of significantly lower quality than medieval steel though and the gladius had all the signs of a mass produced weapon and it wasn't, in many cases, even the primary weapon of the legion
by the time the medieval era hit in full technology had advanced to the point the single most effective mass produced weapon was the pike
>>333191072
a complete game for once
>>333198437
>>333198236
If you're talking about the legionaries, their primary weapon in most all cases was the gladius. The Javelin was primarily a dispensable weapon used for them to be able to move up on the enemy with their swords, after having created gaps in their formatting or caused some to drop their shields.
I would say the crossbow was the most effective, seeing as it could be used to tear Pikemen to pieces, and rivalled the English longbow.
Tits
>>333198794
>caves of delusion
>beast cave
>bandit hideout
>all the empty west side of gransys
even grand sorren was gimped with the lack of enter able buildings
>>333191072
More classes, namely
>spear/polearm users
>monk/martial artist
>more of a focus on dungeons, like BBI
>quick switching between primary weapons
>more classic fantasy enemies
>better casting for mages
>more mobility for mages
>>333198897
wasn't the crossbow also a fairly complex weapon to produce? I can't imagine it was as easy to distribute as say a pike
and if we talk about the most effective weapon during the medieval era it would be without a doubt the composite bow given what the mongols did with it
>>333191072
Something that will let me do this
Most important thing is a better world to explore that has more variety in locations, weather, seasons, dungeons, and towns.
Then the usual, more classes, weapon types,etc.
I think something like being able to buy a house and make an NPC that really likes you move in there with you would be alright. Maybe pawns that aren't combat oriented to populate it, serve you by crafting or something like that.
>>333198794
If you don't know how much content from DD was cut I don't want to tell you, if you liked the game it might ruin your day a little bit
>>333199097
I disagree
>>333199389
To be fair, 90% of the stuff he wanted was completely unreasonable for more than one reason.
It also never got past "concept" so I wouldn't say anything got cut.
>>333199607
>I disagree
i disagree
>>333199842
>>333199935
>>333199243
>wasn't the crossbow also a fairly complex weapon to produce
Well, to put it into perspective, there were entire armies made of nothing but crossbowmen back then. Because of how simple it was to use, and that it could pierce plate armor, it was seen as invaluable.
As for the mongols, their tactics are largely what made them successful in Europe. The Mamelukes handed the Mongols their asses to them on a silver platter at Ain Jalut in 1260. They fucking kicked their ass, HARD, suffering a catastrophic loss. As for the victories they had against the Europeans, that was mostly against the Russians/Slavs/Eastern Europeans, who were very poor and meager kingdoms at the time.
Battle of Samara Bend is another example of Europeans using the same tactics against the Mongol's and defeating them pretty badly. It was just a matter of circumstance that they penetrated as far as they did, not any technological brilliance.
Post some DD webms
some guy from /ddg/ had some good ones
As for me I want some spears and more varying areas. Also make magic shields better
>>333191072
Those DD's.
>>333200823
Has anyone made a mod to give the warrior 6 skills yet?
>>333201106
Dont ask me, I havent got it for PC yet.
I would really hope so though
>>333201302
I've been checking every few days.
>>333191072
Fill the world so it doesnt feel so empty and add a bunch of large enemies to fight on it, only cyclops and griffin gets boring after a while, although BBI does add a bunch of different shit.
Balance the classes, like the warrior to make it viable/fun late game and that's pretty much a perfect game
>>333201348
The most mods ive seen are shit like infinite stamina, no carrying weight and skimpy clothes mods
>>333201106
There was a weird way that I think it could happen where you gave yourself another weapon like a shield and it let you bind 3 more abilities to it, but I don't know if they're tied to vocation or weapon type.
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>>333201637
the modding tendencies on pc are a fucking joke, I can't believe how much missed potential there is for modding at the moment alongside how many mods there are that fundamentally break game balance by completely removing strategy for the sake of sheer convenience alone
>>333195220
Is this DD:O?
>>333195220
i always hear its not worth the trouble of setting it up but everything i see from this game looks so fucking awesome
>>333203354
That's how trailers usually work out.
DD2 when?
>>333203051
Yes, it's not very good from what I hear though
>>333203936
>Not an elder ogre
She'll be fine.
>>333202925
From what I've seen it's not for a lack of trying. MT Framework, while a great engine, isn't exactly the easiest to fuck with when you want to change some more complicated shit.
A finished game.
>>333196779
>people with friends
>idiots
>>333205435
Dragon's Dogma where you could fill your party with pawns or other players would be great
Dragon's Dogma in MMO form just comes with all the same fucking problems that every MMO has, even if it wasn't Japan Onry
>>333205576
This is true, yeah. There's just ways to do co-op that are good, and ways to do it that are awful.
MMOs seem to almost always fall into the latter category.
>Ctrl+F "affinity"
>no results
I find it impossible to believe that anyone at all is a-ok with that shitty system.
What I would like to see? Well
>more Bitterblack Isle, or at least a similar dark, enclosed space full of horrifyingly difficult mobs
>no affinity
>possibility of romancing my Main Pawn because fuck you, that's why
>Death, with a brand new awesome theme
Everything else has already been mentioned.
a fast warrior with 6 slots, doesnt have to be assasin fast but maybe fighter fast with a dodge or a block that doesnt block all the damage.
>>333205909
i always thought it was weird that the warrior class didn't had all the shortsword and shield skills
its supposed to be a direct upgrade to the knight class but turned out to be a downgrade
>>333206708
Warrior's jumping Light Attacks demolish a good chunk of the game pretty easily with how easily they knock shit down. It's still boring though.
Just a jape, friend
Just a jape
>>333207014
wolfs hunt in packs
>>333205898
>impossible to believe that anyone at all is a-ok with that shitty system.
i dont think anyones ok with it it just doesnt fucking matter at all
more plot
more monsters with all DD1's bestiary coming back with improvements (ie death not being so fucking boring to fight).
All roads lead to Gran Soren
I'd like for it to exist in the first place. I doubt Crapcom even knows or cares that people want a sequel though the sales and good reception on PC should have shaken them up a bit.
>>333191072
I just would like to see it period. If it happens I hope the team working on it gets more development time than they did for DD.
>>333208538
They already have the basics that they can build off of so that would already help a lot.
>>333197994
There is still a difference getting a custom made sword from the best swordsmith you could hire and provide materials to compared to mass produced ones handed out for footmen.
A well made sword/weapon stood out like crazy and gave massive advantages compared to the mass produced ones especially if it was made from durable material like steel that reached the same quality as modern made industrial steel.
>>333203354
It's a lot of fun, but getting to the fun parts is really really long and tedious. I would not advise to start and progress alone.
>>333205898
There really were too few tight areas to balance out the openness. Soulflayer Canyon, the quarry, that's about it. And BB of course. Soulflayer was cool, climbing up and down the cliffs and going through the quarry for the first time felt like I was fucking Gandalf in Moria. Actually that kind of area would be amazing. I suppose Bitterblack already was like that, and it was great
>>333191072
More enemy variety.
An end game BBI with no recycled rooms.
A bigger world (DDO got it pretty good)
Either make the game treat us as adults or just tell us things we don't, not something in the middle.
And a finished game. It was clear as crystal that the game up to the Dragon was supposed to be the first half of the game.
More.
More of everything.
More weapons.
More varied bosses.
More chick NPCs for me to waifu
More classes.
More dungeons.
But there won't be a DD2 and you know it.
Because of Capcpom.
>>333210690
>An end game BBI with no recycled rooms
What about an end game BBI where the rooms shift around so you can always get lost on new playthroughs
Or some kind of level creator? Daimon created BBI with his mind, what if when the player defeats the boss, he becomes the boss and gets to create a dungeon for other players. That's pretty out there, I admit
>>333191072
AUGHT
would you care to aught under my dress arisen?
>>333195109
good fucking christ.. how the fuck can people handle all that shit in the way?
>>333212419
Tis' aught here master.
>>333199375
wow, that looked retarded
>>333212419
I'd care for a chance at aught under that garment, if I may speak so bluntlyI'd quite like to lay a softer grip upon that alluringly planed chest of hers, if I am to speak candidly my dearest family
>>333212419
THATS NOT WHAT AUGHT MEANS RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>333211662
nah. part of what made BBI so great was that maps were static and mobs were the same. each time you went through an area that you thought was treacherous, you got better at defeating the enemies, memorized the layout, and gained levels. eventually you completely mastered that area and might even decide to just run past all the enemies. that's a true feeling of progress that you might not get in randomized rooms with randomized mobs.
>>333213320
is aught amiss?
>>333191072
FUCKING MULTIPLAYER STORY MODE
BITTERBLACK ISLE 2.0 BUT BIGGER AND IN AN OPEN AREA
NECROMANCER
>>333213320
Remember, 90% of the olde English posted in these threads is in jest
No need to allow yourself to be so perturbed about it, friend
more wolves, more goblins, more aught in hand
>>333195109
so babby osu!
>>333191072
A better overworld, this one is most important
more monster variety
better controls/camera when climbing monsters
A story that isn't boring until the end of the game
>>333213631
>NECROMANCER
necromancer? i hardly know 'er!
I want the mega harpies with giant titty physics in DDO to come to whatever we get next if at all.
>>333197341
>because they were expensive as fuck and hard to make
When will this meme end? Please watch the following:
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