Hey guys I am trying to build a gayman PC. My laptop's 650M is already showing its age so... yeah.
I was looking at LI but the great PC only has one option for the 960.
The ZOTAC GeForce GTX 960 2G
Meanwhile other sites have more options like
MSI - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 2GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card - Black
eVGA - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 4GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card - Black
Is there any difference? Will it affect the unit if I don't go what LI says?
Also, the Great PC has AMD processors only. How do I know if I can use an intel processor? Or can I use one at all?
Why nvidia? As stated my laptop has a 650M and since 2011 it's been performing great. I am happy with their products and I'd like to continue doing so. This has nothing to do with meme cards and shit. I don't care for that.
However if you guys have a reason to get ATI's I am open to suggestion.
And last one question, sorry. Are there any compact cases? I don't want a monster hueg tower.
Fuck off
>>/g/
>>333158937
Just trying to get educated on the topic.
>>333158918
The real difference is in how much VRAM your 960 will have. The card LI links is 2GB but if you want to game with your computer go with the 4GB
>>333159162
Would the rest of the components matter? As in, would it bottleneck the unit?
>>333158918
>GTX 960
Why?
>>333158918
>Build gaymen PC
>Wait months for half assed console ports that look identical to the console only in 60 eff pee ess
>Get abandoned by company if PC doesnt sell
>Can never take full advantage of hardware specs that costed $1200
>Sea of worthless indie shit that is killing gaming
>neckbeard fanbase
>Virtually no exclusives
>>333159260
Because I don't want to spend too much on it. And I am not interested in maxing out everything.
I just want to be able to play some games that's all.
>>333158918
380 is just better, there's no reason to get a 960
>>333159315
>GTX 960
>$1200
Nobody asked for you to post your shitty bait. Just fuck off.
>>333159415
I am open to suggestion Anon. Can I get some reasons as to why it's better?
>>333159315
>costed
Oh I see.
>>333158918
Compare the base clocks of the mem and gpu from different OEMs some are slightly higher than others, Different brands also have slightly different ways to cool the GPU chip.
>>333159589
I think I'd be more interested in the cooling method as where I live gets really hot.
similar issue to OP,
I have $1600 budgeted for a PC that i want to stream to twitch with.
Before you assholes start
>implying
let me tell you it's mostly for me and my friends to make a channel of us playing a few games.
I can read product reviews and spec lists, my question is this:
Is a PC the best medium to stream games from?
I can emulate ps2 and so forth, whatever
but i have several ps3 games that i'd love to stream as well.
I realize the quality of PC ports varies, hence the question.
I don't mind spending the money if visual quality is improved considerably.
>>333159420
Where did you come to that autistic conclusion?
>>333158918
>GTX 960 2G
Mate, go 970/780ti plus or bust. The 960 will need to be upgraded sooner, and play modern games worse. Yeah, its cheaper, but you get what you pay for really and will probably need to upgrade to a more expensive card costing you more money in the long run. There is also a difference between 4G and 2G.
For CPUs and motherboards go here
https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
And put in the parts you want, it'll tell you if you have any comparability issues. MOBOs have different socket types and so only support particular processors so do your research before buying. They advertise what CPUs they support pretty clearly however.
AMD/Nvidia have there upsides and downsides. Do you research, check performance standards vs cost and buy the one that's best for you. I still think the 970 is best desu.
>>333158918
Building right now is a bad idea phamilia. Polaris and Pascal are 3 months away. They are the next leap in gpu technology that happens every decade or so. Ever heard of how computer technology doubles? We're right on that edge and its about to happen.
If you build that pc right now, you will be sorely ass hurt when they drop, and perform 8x-10x better for the same price of what you got cause you couldn't wait. Take my advice and lean back just a bit longer.
>>333160148
Well this is considering I am using a 650M I think a 960 should suffice. I am kind of on a budget as well.
But let's say I build a system for a 960. Would I just replace the graphix or other components as well?
>>333160803
Well that's even better. I am buying the components on a biweekly basis. I should just buy the graphix card last.
>>333160803
>GTX 670
>Outstanding
what?
>>333158918
If you're not getting x70 or x80 cards from nVidia, just get AMD, at x60 and x50 price points they just offer stronger cards
Logicalincrements is shit.
There's also no budget posted.
>>333160896
>I am buying the components on a biweekly basis.
Top tech experts are estimating that the new moderately priced cards will have 8gb of ram. That's a steep upgrade from the 4gig 960 you were eying for comparisons sake.
You're not alone, I'm also ready to buy a new gpu too, it's been 5 years for me. Don't know if I'll go AMD or Nvidia yet, will wait to see what offers me the better deal.
>>333160808
It depends on the games you play I guess. Check how the games you want to play run on different cards, if you're only interested in Moba shit, or WoW or whatever then sure go for the 960. But also consider that your CPU might have integrated graphics and perform similar enough to the 960 on those games.
>>333160803
Don't listen to this retard. People have been saying not to buy because something better is coming "in 3 months" since the early 80s.
>>333161323
>970
>not waiting for pascal which is literally 10x better than any current GPUs
>>333159913
See >>333161323
This $1000+ is a meme for 8/10 (not "enthusiast") gaming PCs. I agree that getting a card right now is probably a poor idea though.
>>333161362
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-pascal-coming-computex/
>This isn’t the first time we are hearing such a news as last month, we got to hear that NVIDIA had plans for launching a GeForce Pascal card at the end of May which is about when Comptex starts as companies love hosting their own Pre-Computex seminars.
>>333161323
nice PSU you got there, anon ;^)
>>333158918
Yea look at Intel also.
Especially if you have a microcenter near you, they have extremely cheap prices on Intel CPUs.
That chart/site is okay but I swear it's random fanboyism is taking over. Or laziness.
>>333160803 is spot on about GPUs.
I just built a new ITX machine, not sure how much I spent on it, but I reused my old 780 until the new P lines are out.
>>333161726
Well 780 isn't exactly a cheap or weak card though
>>333161536
>http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-pascal-coming-computex/
>No name
>No specs
>No pictures
>No price
>No comment from Nvidia
>No credible evidence that this card even exists
YEAH GUYS WE SHOULD TOTALLY BUY THIS PHANTOM CARD DURR.
Nvidia has no reason to reveal a card they'll be releasing in under two months, right?
>>333161524
alright thanks.
I'll probably go ahead and get everything but the GPU and stick my old 750Ti in there until new shit comes out.
my old processor is from 2001 though, that computer is about to retire
THIS IS RELEVANT TO ME
I have an i7 but i need to upgrade my gpu (lel 560 ti rightnow).
THE THING IS: im afraid it wont be compatible with my mobo or my PSU will need to be higher
is there a site that tells you if parts are compatible with eachother?
>>333162150
See
>>333160148
https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
>>333161981
>No pictures
>No price
>No comment from Nvidia
>No credible evidence that this card even exists
???
>>333162251
Woah, its nothing. I bet you believed the NX controller and every other retarded tech rumor too.
>>333162150
I don't think GPU can be incompatible with a mobo, I mean recent mobo and GPU, and since you have 560Ti, there should be no problem
PSU though, you have to calculate your system power draw (there are calculators, just google them) and see if it's at least like 100W lower than your PSU says, for keeping it safe
Also you could look how much power 560Ti draws and if the new GPU uses less, you should be all set
AMD tend to use more power, keep that in mind
>/v/ - video games
>>333161981
>No name
Same name as all their cards for the last 10yrs. GTX 7xx, 8xx, 9xx, 10xx etc and so on. Are you new?
>No specs
>No price
>No comment from Nvidia
Tech companies always keep specs, prices and more under wraps because going all out essentially means killing all of their current products since people will then wait it out. They announce the shit, then release it that same month or right after. Both Nvidia and AMD have repeated this pattern for over a decade. Again, are you new at this or just new to this site?
>>333161362
Well I want to play Street Fighter V. Runs decent on my 650M at fucking low settings but looks mediocre.
I don't want to max out either. Just to not look like total ass.
>>333162550
Can you play video games in your imagination, anon ? Because if you can, teach me, I sure as hell wouldn't buy a GPU ever then, iGPU would be enough for my utubez and moving pictures
>>333162816
holy shit you are retarded
>>333162892
>discussing equipment required to play video games
>hurr durr muh vee is for video games, your thread is not about who has the biggest boobs in Smash
>>333163103
and you continue to be retarded by trying to deflect and strawmanning
face it, your thread is cancer and contributes to making /v/ even more shit
>>333160803
Is this case good? It's been sitting in my closet for a few months while I'm still saving up for the rest of the parts.
>>333163179
Well, I'll leave it up to you to make /v/ great again ;^)
>>333163253
That's R4, right ? I've heard many good things about it, looks very nice from the visual point too, I'd personally go with a case that has better airflow
>>333163253
Probably. FD makes great cases.
My core 500 was dirt cheap and awesome.
>>333162576
>8xx
Kek, maybe for laptops. You're obviously talking out of your ass or are dumb enough to buy into site traffic making "rumors". Nvidia and AMD do not keep their cards close to their chest, they advertise the shit out of them. They announced the 900 series more than a year before they came out, AMD did that big song and dance at e3 last year before releasing their cards much later. Before that the earlier series were advertised to fuck for months and months before being released.
But no, the swedish overclockers site (and only this site) is 100% correct about this groundbreaking card that's coming out in a little under two months that Nvidia has said jack shit about, that makes sense.
>>333163260
wow that's so epic damn epic for the win man
>>333163373
r5, actually
I'm no expert but the one I have looks like it has several portions of the case's exterior that you can remove and add fans to if you want more cooling.
![air540_hero_up_1[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/MP8BjWS.png "air540_hero_up_1[1].png")
>>333163594
Yeah, it's a pretty good case, I'm not saying you're gonna have an oven there, but it's made to be silent and the front panel is solid, I'd like to have something like pic related, as long as it has good dust filters that are easy to clean
>tfw my current case is silent type, but it's a cheap case and I can feel the heat coming from beneath my desk
>>333162550
This thread is probably more video games than the others.
960 2gb will be fine for years, don't listen to people in this thread saying otherwise.
Never buy high end video cards at the end of a generation, new nvidia cards are launching in may meaning the price of all other cards will go down. Wait until then.
There is no performance increase between the 960 2gb and 4gb because the memory controller is not fast enough to use 4gb of memory. The 4gb card is sold to unwarey consumers to take advantage of them.
>>333164206
Wew lad
>>333163938
I've been looking into getting one of those cases anon and they don't have filters. You can buy filters seperatlry though
>>333161328
6970?
>>333164206
>I'm retarded
>the post
>>333161323
>Logicalincrements is shit.
care to elaborate why ?
Got a GTX 960 4GB version for my friends build.
Runs most stuff pretty well, if not slightly lower then the 970. To give a few examples:
>Rise of the Tomb Raider ran at around 50-60 FPS on medium/high settings, and 40 in a few areas that even my 980 Ti had issues with.
>Fallout 4 works around 60 FPS on high with Godrays turned off, and 40 FPS in a few cities for a few seconds while everything loads.
>Skyrim runs at 60 FPS, with 55 FPS for a few seconds in a few of the outdoors areas that have a lot on screen.
>Just Cause 3 runs 60 FPS a good chunk of the time unless there is a lot of explosions, then it is about 40. This is on high with a few of the smaller things turned down.
>MGSV and GZ ran 60 FPS maxed out.
>GTAV ran about 50-60 FPS with most stuff set on high.
All on 1920 x 1080 with 8GB of RAM and on a FX-8350. Its not as bad of a card as people say, I used to have a 970 and it runs slightly lower then that, but not by much.
>>333164771
970 is weaker than 960 is that what you're implying ?
>>333164965
Nah, I would still recommend a 970 if you can afford it, but the 960 isn't far behind it performance wise if you only have $170-200 bucks to spare for a GPU.
>>333164206
I bet the next thing you gonna tell OP, when he finds out that 2GB is not enough anymore, is to buy another 960 with 2gb and run in SLI to get 4GB
>>333165371
I don't even see the point in having so much VRAM. My card has 1GB and I run everything I want at good fps.
>>333165619
Well if YOU want to run Counter-Strike and other games that aren't resource intensive, sure, but you couldn't run any recent games at 1080p 60fps even on the low settings
My friend can play most games he wants with an Intel 4000iGPU on his ThinkPad™, but he has to lower the resolution and play in sub 60fps, and it's fine for him, but he couldn't possible run any new games with shit optimization at all
![[T-N]GameCenterCX_-_NorthTrip_1-2[0FD0E9C8].avi_snapshot_06.20_[2012.07.24_20.49.49].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EOmL44G.jpg "[T-N]GameCenterCX_-_NorthTrip_1-2[0FD0E9C8].avi_snapshot_06.20_[2012.07.24_20.49.49].jpg")
here is my pc CURRENTLY: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LDrGvK
i have some cheap cooler fan too
I know it's pretty JUST for 2016, but what should I upgrade first? GPU, right? in b4 >all of it
>>333165964
Man I could run Witcher 3 at medium to high settings with my 1GB 6870 and average 50 fps. I would only consider buying anything like a 980 if I was ultra rich and could afford to splurge on something unimportant.
>>333166123
Is this bait ? Only the GPU is lacking, but that build with a better GPU and maybe better RAM is probably better than most PC playerbase
If not bait, first thing is to replace GPU, but again, it's worth to wait a little while, because new series with new technology is about to hit, if not for the new cards, for the price drop of older cards. Then upgrade RAM, I'd suggest getting rid of all of them and getting 8GB, of course you could just add another 2GB stick, but I personally wouldn't like that
If you get a powerful GPU, then a new or another monitor would be good
>>333166123
Defiantly the GPU. Your CPU should be fine for a little while longer. At this point, I would just wait for Pascal.
>>333166206
I call bullshit on that, my 760 2GB couldn't run it at medium to high setting at that fps, unless you cherrypicked the best location for getting the maximum fps, like a looking directly into a wall
>>333159162
You're an idiot. The 4gb cards are point less for the 960 because it doesn't have the power to push a resolution at enough detail for 4gb to be useful.
>being poor
>buying AMD
and this was from over a year ago
>>333166403
i'm flattered you think its bait, im concerned that dark souls 3 site test said i may not run it at high settings. A lot of that is stuff i bought in ~2011 (monitor, early gen i7, only 4 + 2 gb ram). maybe i just feel inefficient compared to my ricer friends
i'll take your word for it (>>333166123) and wait for the new gpu's to come out (when is that, in a few months? does anyone know?) and save up money for that
im not sure what monitor to get... 1080 has served me fine for half a decade, but is the jump to 1440p or beyond really worth it? are those monitors not hyper expensive?
>>333166504
Well if you run your games with skype, utorrent a browser, windows aero and a hundred other processes and services in the background don't be surprised if they play like shit. Do you even use classic windows?
Though I must say, my processor is i5 2380p so pretty good, that must've helped.
>>333166838
New GPUs should hit in like 3 months or so, or so I've heard
Higher res monitors aren't that hyper expensive anymore, unless you want a perfect one(1440p,144Hz,IPS, low response and all that shit), but you could also buy a second 1080p monitor, that could even be higher refresh rate and use a double monitor setup, the older one would be for general usage while the new one could be for gaming or something
>>333166123
is the motherboard a mistake?
seems pretty dumb to have an unlocked i7 with a locked motherboard, either that or its just poorly thought out
that aside you should only really need a gpu
>>333167202
Well my CPU is pretty shit, but I still won't turn off everything up to explorer.exe every time I turn on a game
also
>skype
>uTorrent
now that's some combination of botnet
>>333166504
>nvidia
>>333167345
I know I've made the wrong choice of buying 760 :(
>>333167239
now that you mention it, i really did want to swap to a 2-monitor layout. got any 1440p monitors to recommend? My pickiness is probably not that much if i'm still making do with this really old 1080p
>>333167297
i originally got that motherboard in 2010 and i've been just upgrading on top of it. so im sure at some point its gonna need an upgrade. im not sure what the locked unlock thing means, google didnt show mobo stuff
>>333167525
no, goy, don't listen to him, you did good
>>333167586
basically you spent extra on an overclockable i7 but have a motherboard that doesn't support it
it just means you're missing out on easy performance gains, but at this point hunting down a sandybridge motherboard likely isn't worth doing
>>333167586
Can't comment on monitors a lot, you should check logicalincrements, it has some monitor buying guide, not a very wide one, but it will give some general direction
Just know what are you after, if you want higher refresh rate and better response time, you will probably get a TN panel, while if you want better colour accuracy and better viewing angles, you will get an IPS. If you're not a professional gaymur, IPS is probably the better choice, because you will utilize it every time you do something with your PC, while high framerate and response time will mostly only feel while gaming, and that's only if your GPU will manage to pump out those extra frames
>>333166123
>average /v/ user
>>333167883
Huh, now i know. I'll keep that in mind when I eventually upgrade the i7 - back then i was a fresh senior in highschool building his first pc with money he saved up. That said, I've always been afraid of overclocking stuff for no good reason
>>333167924
I'll check that out, looks like a good place to start
>>333168430
I accept any flaws remaining from my initial build
>>333168541
He means that you have a fairly powerful or at the very least strong build and you refer to it as
>I know it's pretty JUST for 2016
>>333168541
You want flaws? here's your flaws:
>a fucking i7 for games
>microshit motherboard with an ATX case
>three memory sticks that don't even match in manufacturers
>600W power supply for no apparent reason
I won't even mention the arguably subjective stuff like le ebin gaming gear or purchasing windows
>>333168868
also this
>>333169143
the i7 and PSU were purchased to last a long time, I guess that was my mindset in 2010/11. motherboard's gonna be replaced in time; i agree ram is a current issue I have to deal with
dont knock my peripherals though, that mouse is solid (although some functions like the lights are superfluous) and the keyboard's $30 lasted 6 years
i put windows on there to just for completion, i need to upgrade from 7 home to7 pro but im worried about shit fucking up from pirating 7 pro. i pirate lots of stuff with private trackers but im afraid for some reason of my actual OS being pirated and maybe being outed as non-genuine
>>333168868
i guess i'm too modest but half my stuff looks like crap compared to what people on /g/ have or what select friends have
>>333166123
You have no idea about JUST.
t. athlon ii x4 635, 2gb, ati5770
>>333159315
PC has more exclusives then all consoles combined, but nice meme
>>333169143
>a fucking i7 for games
?????
>>333171024
You need an i7 for some games.
>>333164771
>skyrim
LOOK AT THIS BENCHMARK, HURRADURRA
>MGS5 ran 60 at my 6850
>>333164771
Dude MGSV is optimized up the ass. I bet even a WiiU can run that shit.
>>333172112
MGSV isn't optimized, it's just a barren game in a fucking desert where nothing's going on.
>>333158918
>"so... yeah."
>>333158918
>Excellent
>GTX 970
lol this is such a troll list
>>333158918
>eVGA - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 4GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card - Black
Don't pick 4GB 960's. There are very few games that differ in performance between those cards to the point where you can say it's cherrypicked as opposed to R9 380 which 2GB and 4GB performance is different across the board.
>>333173227
Nice meme friend.
>>333173137
get out of the house
>>333159913
If you stream, you want one computer to play games and another computer that processes the stream.
Assuming you have windows already, you can get an i5 a gtx 970 and everything else for 800.
I wouldn't buy a titan but slightly 980s or 970 would be OK if you go with only one computer.
Amd is a fucking joke. Don't buy from them
>>333173137
On a daily basis, how often do you get triggered?
