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>game doesn't punish you for dying
>game gives you a cryptic clue in the You Died screen
Isn't dying already a punishment ?
>>333149619
>game doesn't punish you for dying
>>333149619
>neo-nintendo games even reward you for it
>game has a limited number of continues
>game makes fun of you for dying
>>333149892
>die in dmc3 5 times or so
>"Easy mode is now available"
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Game makes you walk all the way back from the graveyard to your corpse
>If you choose to revive at the graveyard, you get a massive stat reduction for 30 minutes and suffer a 25% durability loss on your gear
>>333149619
>MC dies and its a instant gameover
Goddamit SMT.
>make a bad move
>get punished
>punishment is dying
>try again
Don't see the problem
>>333149619
Whats the deal with that pic?
Are you saying it in italian?
>>333149892
>>333150037
THE GAMAH DOESN'TAH PUNISHAH YOUAH FORAH DYINGUH
>>333149619
Let's use Tetris as an example.
The punishment for Tetris was that you have to start the game over. That means that if you are proficient enough for level 10, you will start off at level 1 effectively not improving or testing your mettle in the slightest.
Most modern versions of Tetris will only make you restart the level. Or you can customise speed, et cetera.
If you think you're 'hardcore' because you prefer games where you're grinding content you've already mastered, you're not. You're not getting any better at the game by being 'punished' for death, unless the punishment is making the game harder, which is pretty obviously dumb.
>every time after you die game has a long ass loading screen when you reload the level
>game allows you to save and load at any point in time with zero penalties
>have to intentionally gimp myself by not saving too much just to make the game somewhat challenging
Why do so many pc games have this retarded save & load system?
>game offers to let you skip the level
>>333150308
That's why I like Dwarf Fortress so much. When my fortress goes to shit, I at least know how and why it went to shit and what I need to do to avoid that the next time around. Sure I've lost dozens of hours by losing that fort but I also learned something.
Losing is fun.
>>333150136
Thats more like Sean Connery than Italian.
>>333150424
Just imagine it with a stereotypical Italian guy talking, then it works out
>>333149619
>mfw the end fight in mgs3
>drags you way back to some place that's nearly impossible to escape from
true a fate worse than death.
>>333150391
You are fucking retarded
>Die
>Level instantly resets
>>333150467
>mfw he captured me so many times he died of old age so I had to restart to kill that old fucker
>>333149619
>>game doesn't punish you for dying
>game gives you a buff every time you die
>sometimes it reaches like 20 stacks
>and you still lose
Fucking LFR
>>333150412
Right, that's an obvious counter example where the challenge of the game is long term planning as opposed to short term skill. I thought of Minecraft after posting as well.
The point is the thread doesn't discriminate, it seems to assume any game that doesn't punish you for dying is a bad game.
>if you die you stay dead for pretty much forever unless someone is kind enough to bury you
>you get to be a ghost though
LifeWeb is a double edged sword.
>game stops holding your hand for one level
>Main character dies
>Party members can revive them
>dragon quest game
>lose to last boss
>resurrected at last chapel used with half money
>go back to last boss who taunts you for losing
just fucking give me a game over screen you morons
>>333150623
I'm a programmer for an MMO where everyone starts off as a ghost.The working title is Evocation but it's probably going to end up being named after the main NPC, 'Del'.
>main character dies
>there's a sidequest to revive him
>>333150815
I'd fuck that jihadi so hard she'd turn christian.
>>333149950
WoW is already shit. Always has been
>>333149619
>game gives you a debuff when you die
that will surely help me on the next try.
>>333149619
>die on boss
>makes some sarcastic response on your expense
Fuck you Megaman Zero, just restart me at the boss room. Why do you have to make me feel like shit?
>>333150914
t. every shmup ever
>>333150462
IL GIOCO NON TI PUNISCE QUANDO SCHIATTI MADONNA MAIALA
>>333150037
in my high school in NY, if you made that gesture while talking or greeting a friend, and they looked at it, you got to call them a faggot.
i have no idea what connection that image has to the OP post though.
>>333151219
>muore nel videogioco
>la tua pizza muore nella vita reale
Mannaja li cani
>>333151301
questa cazzata mi ha fatto ridere, grazie anon
>Video game
>Doesn't have Game Over screen
>>333150815
That actually sounds kinda cool, what game?
>>333149619
It's a shame that back in days the arcade games like Ninja Gaiden literally punish you for not paying up.
italians bro are the best!
>game punish you for being into an invisible damage shockware area instead of abusing invincible rolls like the devs wanted.
it's ok, it's a niche genre now
>>333151472
Chrono Trigger
>>333151393
Sei il benvenuto
>>333151472
Chrono Trigger
>>333151472
Probably Chrono Trigger
>>333149619
>Die repeatedly
>Game asks you if you want to turn down the difficulty
>>333149950
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLL the way back from the graveyard
>SHEESH, WHAT A TREK
Really hope I just got baited because I want to fucking deck you right now
>>333151472
The game's literally older than you if you're asking that.
>>333151784
actually more like *double* his age
Game was almost 30 fucking years ago.
>>333150808
No o
>>333149619
>dying makes the game easier.
Thanks God Hand?.
>>333151472
Chrono Trigger
>Use health items against boss but end up dying
>Start at checkpoint
>My potions are still gone
>Dying resets your settings
Why
>>333149619
>trying to travel via airship
>airship is attacked
>die
>lose some exp
>have to wait 10 minutes before the next flight
>>333149619
>RPG does not have some kind of journal system
I don't mean the shitty pointer in Skyrim.
>Die
>somehow comeback to life and not staying dead
>>333150391
>save up xp points
>find computer with password
>save, dump points into hacking to find password
>reload, type in password manually to keep my points
vtmb
>game has long levels but if you die then you start from the beginning.
>game has 1 life and no saving
no game does this, no game is a true Game
only real life does this
>>333149892
>You unlock achivemnt of shame when dying 10 times to the same boss.
>>333152701
>what is rogue
thread degli italiani?
>>333152836
it had no saving? then it fits
>>333152701
>I've never played rogue/roguelikes
>game punishes you for doing well
>>333152701
You can do this in some games.
You just press no in the game over screen.
>>333151740
have you ever died in the barrens, thousand needles or stranglethorn valley?
>>333153163
heh, you right, I do this in lol, when I get killed I go afk or leave or go idle-jungling
>>333149619
Never understood the obsession with punishing death, death is in itself punishment, I'm already doing the best I can to not die. If I die I can't progress.
>>333152701
There's a newground flashgane called One Life (I think) where you play as a scientist during an epidemic. every day your faced with choices, and the end of the game depends on how you played the game
You can't replay the game after you've beaten it. You have to live with the choices you've made
For an 8-bit "artsy" game, it was pretty good and had a nice moral
>>333152701
there is a mobile game called "One Single life". you can only play the game once unless you delete and reinstall it again. it's really simple but good.
>>333150136
It sounds more like one of those crazy american preachers
YOU WILL BE SAVED-AH PRAISE THE LORDAH FOR WE HAVE SINNEDAH NO MORE SHALL WE WORSHIPPAH THE FALSE HOWARDAH
>>333153297
nice, I will check it
>>333149619
That picture is Italian slang sign language for calling someone a cuck.
>>333153365
this sounds very good, haha
>die
>can't skip asslong game over sequence
>you're literally faster when you just reset the console and load the game from the main menu
>>333151287
Same here in Virginia and that was years ago
>wanna save the world?
>no
>come on, don't be that way
>wanna save the world?
>no
>well, I guess the world is doomed
>game over
>Dying is the solution to a puzzle
>Can't die
>game is still amazing
>>333152701
>game has 1000 lives
>>333151287
Brooklyn here. We would say "save it" and give them a "gill". Basically rubbing their neck really hard or some shit.
Them were the days...
>>333149759
Not when the checkpoint was literally seconds away, which it always is these days.
>>333153445
Fucking SotN.
>>333149892
>Would you like to try a lower difficulty?
No, fuck you.
>>333152701
there are a LOT of NES games that are one life and no saving.
>>333151287
>i have no idea what connection that image has to the OP post
it basically conveys the meaning of "what the fuck" like "what the fuck are you doing" or "why the fuck did you do this" or "the hell?"
>>333153685
>play tutorial for Witcher 2
>suggesting difficulty on how good I do
>suggests easy
FUCK YOU
>>333152275
Skyrim does have a journal, it's just pointless.
>Game doesn't regenerate your hp after you get hurt
>>333151287
in my school you get to smack them in the head if they look
>>333150815
DELETE THIS! I DON'T WANT ROACHES SHITTING UP MY BOARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>333153506
what game was that?
custom robo?
>>333153906
We had the "OK" sign for that, you got a free punch if they looked at it but they got a free punch if they put their finger in the middle.
We also had yellow car and Mini Cooper free punches. My right arm was constantly bruised through my early teenage years.
>>333154029
Super Paper Mario did that.
>>333154029
Nintendo used to do that shit often
Phantom hourglass us a good exemple
Honestly you should just answer no and doom the world insteat of actually playing PH
>>333153584
Nothing happens when you reach 0, don't worry. That would be ridiculous.
>>333149619
>Managed to defeat the boss but he killed your party member in the process
>The said party member does not get the exp
>>333150037
Old-school method of punishing students.
>>333154562
>manage to defeat the final boss but he killed your party member in the process
>said party member stays dead in the ending
guess the game
>It costs money to revive a party member
>The cost for reviving one member is the same amount as fully healing the party
>Fully healing the party does not revive party members
>>333154887
Purseowner 3?
>>333152990
If you really want no saving at all, then there's The Final Death Wish on highest difficulty.
>>333154887
fire emblem.
i always have to restart if i lose someone. i can't bear the guilt.
>game lowers your stats when you die
>>333151219
Anon non bestemmiare non é carino
>>333151674
>die repeatedly
>game forcibly turns down the difficulty
>>333151287
Here in Georgia you got necked if you looked at it
>>333155053
that doesn't count everyone permanently dies there anyway
>Characters/Class that revolves around staying at low health for higher damage and effects
>>333151527
>>333151554
>>333151618
>>333152095
Great, thx for spoiling it your fucks
Now there is no point to playing iy
>>333151287
10/10 post
>game punishes you for dying
>now the fight is even harder
>>333149892
>>333155123
>character designed to make the game less fun for everyone else playing
>you die
>have to watch the cutscene again
>>333155092
>game lowers your stats when you die
>along with statpoint cost to increase
>can get lost stats back in lategame
>Characters that gets awesome sounding abilities upon death
>It's all useless shit in practical use
>>333155314
BOMBS AWAY!and then Fukua came out
>>333150351
This frustrates me when I'm playing older games.
>>333155329
>The last checkpoint is exactly at the beginning of the cutscene before the boss
>So you will either have to endure the loop every time you die or exit the level entirely
Thanks Bayonetta 2
>you can have sex with a sheep in a brothel
>>333150517
>die
>enemies reset
>but powerup and items don't
>level is therefore harder since you can't get items or powerups that where previously avaible
>>333151063
git gud
>new room opens up
>check every spot, there is nothing
>trying to leave is the solution
>ingame cockroaches have their own AI
guess the game
>>333155638
Final fight Streetwise
>>333153297
Clear cookies or launch a browser window in private mode.
eat balls
I've been playing Styx and loving it but after save scumming to try to get the ghost and mercy insignias I realized I wasn't having a lot of fun, so no I do missions without saving and it turned into a much more enjoyable experience where I try to survive even when I am detected lest I get killed and have to do the whole zone over again.
>>333154887
ME2?
>Easy puzzle
>you have trouble completing it because you over think it
eat balls
>>333154935
>the cost to revive a party member increases every time you use it
>>333149619
GRIM DAWN. HOLY FUCK
>>333149814
Name one game that does that, faggot
>>333155759
>eat balls
>don't choke on them
>>333155743
Fuck off Pat, you are just stupid
>>333153860
That's nothing baby
>Exiting the dungeon does not heal you
>Going back to the town does not heal you
>You have to pay money to heal
>Healing costs loadsofmoney
>The cost scales with your level
>>333155781
You could argue about the white Tanooki suit in Super Mario 3D World.
I wouldn't call it a reward, though. More like condescending.
>game has permadeath
>game gives you a chance to get all losses back by backtracking to where you died
>somehow people think it's harder than normal checkpoints which roll your character back to a point
>>333155661
nah those ones just wander around
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elwb2lV88hM
>>333149619
Made me slap the back of my neck.
>protag is a girl
>you can't date other girld
>>333155595
>New room/aera opens up
>It's nothing
>There is nothing in it
>Searching every tile of the floor and wall reveals nothing
>It's just an empty area
>Game is not popular enough for a fanbase to discover all the secrets, or simply no one have discovered it yet
>Convinced that there is literally nothing in that area
>Leave
>Yet there is a tiny little voice in your head telling you that maybe you have missed something
>>333149619
>sleeping for any period of time mends your broken-ass bones and mortal wounds
>>333151287
In Australia we had the "circle below the waist" system and if they look at it you'd punch them.
>>333156094
>protag
>you can date other guys
>>333156094
>game lets you create your own waifu
>game also has romanceable waifus
>can't be lesbian
>>333155943
This sounds like Souls. I think it sounds like something from the Souls series.
I'll admit I agree with them since if the last spot you died was either a boss or some hard to reach area that can kill you. Worse when another death while you are trying to reach for your stuff can mean losing everything for good.
>>333155781
All of the Dk remakes
>>333151878
fucking old people
>>333155595
I just got Fatal Frame 2 and apparently I got so used to games that only go forward that I actually got stuck for 15 minutes in a room in the first house that I only had to leave.
>game uses lives for everything
>have to buy potions with lives
>have to spend lives to repair
>enemies don't give back lives
Guess the game
>>333156183
>Your local clinic right next to the inn can heal you from absurd shit like curses and petrifications
>>333156183
>wounds sustained in combat take in-game months to heal
>>333156370
It actually was Fatal Frame 2 that made me post that, what a coincidence
>there is a lump like a body under this blanket
>I better not look at it
Fuck you
>>333150351
>Keep dying because NPC's load in the game before the MC after a checkpoint or badly timed save
>You never know what the game over screen looks like because the game is piss easy even on the "hardest" difficulty
>>333156484
That's exactly the room I was talking about, heh.
>>333156556
>I've never seen the game over screen of Okami
And I regularly beat it once a year or something
>Clip through the floor and die after a long fall
>"Welcome to Dark Souls"
Fuck
Jim Sterling was right.
>>333153165
>have you ever died in thousand needles?
triggered.
>>333152391
You're still gimping yourself if you're just saving all of those stat points all of the time though. And if you beat the game by only using them at the end, you probably didn't even really need them.
I'm guessing Deus Ex, by the by.
>>333152259
Final Fantasy XI, is that you?
>>333149619
>die
>continue
>JUST FORGET IT
>die
>continue
>JUST FORGET IT
>die
>continue
>JUST FORGET IT
>Repeat over 10 fucking times
Guess the game.
>Have to die/get caught to proceed in game
>Keep reloading whenever near death to try that part of the game, not realising the above.
>>333156270
Once you reach a certain point souls stop mattering, you keep all the important shit when you die.
>>333156270
But unlike normal checkpoint systems you keep all items you picked up on the way. The only way it can be more punishing is if you don't ever spend souls and lose all at once
>>333149892
>>333156519
>travel to next level
>long ass loading screen
>spawn is surrounded by radiation hazards
>die right as loading finished
>turns out things are still happening during loading
>reload
>loading takes little to no time
>continue as if nothing happened
>>333152701
>game gives you 1000 lives
>fairly easy to die
>too busy jerking off at last boss to kill her
I'll never finishprinny
>>333157254
>use all healing and buff potions fighting a boss
>you were meant to lose
>game has awfully placed save points and you have to traverse half the map to re-fight the boss
>JRPG character dies in battle
>"I'm... sorry..."
>>333157406
>tfw it was never even combat related
>>333149619
>game requires micropayments to continue if you die
>Game automatically lowers difficulty forcing you to go back to the main menu to play again in the same difficulty
Fuck you Smash Bros, that way I'll never git gud
>>333157154
Maple Story
>>333156446
what games do this?
>game will throw you into financial struggle or total ruin upon death should you not have made proper monetary precautions
>>333151301
belìn dio carogna
>>333158865
>game not only does that, but keeps a permanent record of the number of times you die
>you can either die and continue on a lower difficulty with the shame and shittier rewards, or quit right before getting a permanent stain on your record but lose everything, including the currency you paid to make the level that difficult
Seriously, fuck trying to 9.0 Kid Icarus Uprising.
Still did it anyway.
>>333149619
What is that image meant to convey?
>>333153297
>Clear cookies
>replay game
>"You can't replay the game after you've beaten it."
Kek pleb
>>333155329
>they port the game to PS3
>you now get a trophy for watching the cutscene 10 times as a "joke"
IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THE PROBLEM THEN FIX IT YOU FUCKS!
>>333155092
>>333155369
>>333155856
Why would you guys even play those games? Games are meant to be relaxing and fun. Not torture. Are you guys masochist or something?
>spend twenty minutes trailing the boss avoiding his shit
>finally reach him and die immediately
>so pissed i just stared at the screen for a few minutes
>was supposed to use item during death screen but only available for limited time
>>333159926
KH?
>>333159932
git gudhabe foon
>>333155050
lags on my machine, and typical flash game quality
>>333156663
I've beaten it twice and it's never occurred to me that there might be a cool game over screen.
>>333159932
It's fun when you actually get good.For a while.
>>333160018
GoW: Chains of Olympus
>>333160313
>level up
>hp and mp doesn't fully restore
>>333160179
>flash
>lags
Well, no shit. Adobe just kept fucking it up worse and worse with each update. Even old games barely run on modern pc's.
>>333149619
>game punishes you for living
>game punishes you for dying
How? In MMOs you have XP loss and some games have permadeath, but what kind of punishment can you apply to most other games?
>>333149849
>Using more than one continue for anything but practice
What part of "game over" don't you understand?
>>333150798
Mortamor was the only boss I had to grind for in dqvi. Damn those hands.
>>333155106
>wreck everyone's shit without dying for a good while
>game secretly turns the difficulty up
>>333160565
Starting from the beginning punishes you with time. Something like Bioshock vita chambers just respawn you without turning time back so you can run out and do 1 dmg and die again forever.
>>333160842
That's a pretty unique case though. I can't name many games that do that.
>>333153297
There was a workaround to play the game again, I can't remember what it was.
![039d4278f4d49e8804df7a80233ad128[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/exX9JAL.jpg "039d4278f4d49e8804df7a80233ad128[1].jpg")
>game forcibly changes difficulty to harder if you're doing too good
>>333155856
There is literally nothing wrong with this
>>333153584
>Prinny 2
>End up defeating giant etna with 12 lives
Probably one of the hardest games I eve played.
>>333159932
Games don't always have to be relaxing, just look at survival horror games. Stressful and challenging can be fun too.
>>333155638
Half Life
>game doesn't include any waifus
>>333158017
It was always falling off those damn balance beams or some stupid puzzle
Fuck you god of war, fuck you
>>333155106
sm4sh
>>333158936
CK2
>>333159932
"Relaxing and fun" is a description that's more often than not applied to games that you finish on autopilot and don't remember shit from after a couple of days. High difficulty, stress, fear all make the victory much sweeter and your time with the game more memorable.
>>333161618
>no waifus
>>333161618
Fuck off you otaku degenerate
>>333160003
mgs3?
>>333161618
still more waifus than what xbox got
>>333160565
Loss of items (roguelikes).
>>333161078
God Hand?.
>>333149619
>god literally punishes you for dying
>>333149978
>try again with all the enemies at half health.
>punishment
>game is actually a movie
>>333152742
Is it called the dsp?
>>333156556
>game has no game over screen because it just sends you back to the last checkpoint of the level
>>333151287
In malaysia is more of a gesture for "ayo, hol up", like wanting to re clarify rules in board games or in conversation.
>>333150594
You can turn them off in a patched version. Doesn't make much sense story-wise, though,
>>333155638
Any strategy game that has Turkey.
>>333150716
In a lot of games you are getting massively crippled if that happens, and possibly already fatally so. It can throw off your tempo enough that you lose if someone has to take time out to revive you.
Or if they can't revive you, but can win the fight and get you fixed later/you start with 1hp after the fight, you are still in a bad place. You don't necessarily want to be fighting a lot of bosses or tough parties at ALL in SMT for instance, without the MC. The MC is a cornerstone of your strategy, even when they are not doing the heavy lifting.
You are likely to get BTFO anyway if they go down, but sometimes you can finish without them. (Like if the boss/enemy shits itself strategy wise and keeps hammering the last demon with THE WRONG MOVE that is unfathomably stupid considering it's resistant/immune/actually reflects that, etc0
>>333154562
What is (Every Classic RPG ever) Alex?
But seriously, that's been happening relatively frequently for me with Earthbound, and since it's Earthbound, a lot on other, nasty enemies too.
Playing it again reminds me why I'm legitimately more wary of shit show enemies like Territorial Oaks than even the first several bosses in the game, They are mean fucking shits. Paula still can't take hits from them very well, much less the "catch on fire" and this is after steam rolling everything around that area/being punchy in the desert. Her shit HP is really only so much of a protection even after basically, 20 levels? Ness is truly a face tank.
>>333155490
And bloodborne :^)
>>333151287
I'm Italian and what is this.
In my high school if a person did that and you looked at it, the person who looked at it gets a slap in the face.
>>333157419
>jerking it to 2x4
Why?
>>333153906
In mine you got to make out with them.
>>333160565
the standard is pretty much just "pay money" or "pay time" by putting you at an earlier checkpoint, if the game is going to punish you at all. runescape used to have pretty brutal death punishments (highly likely to lose almost all your items) but it's all babby mode now
>>333149619
Hello david cage
>>333170657
I used to never die in RS unless i tried(IE wilderness challange which is running into the wildy naked and seeing how far you could make it)
unlocked cool ingame music for it
havent been on in ages how was it watered down?
>>333170986
first they added gravestones that held your items for longer (up to 30 mins or something), now you just have to pay death a bunch of shekels to get your items back and he holds them for like 24 in-game hours or something. it makes it easy but it's also understandable for an online game, since a lot of deaths are going to happen due to lag or server disruptions. the oldschool servers added the gravestone system too iirc
>>333171195
wait I knew about the grave stones(alright in my opinion) but now you can pay the jew reaper to get your shit back?
Im not even mad as i dont play anymore
>>333171437
yeah, they added it after excessive bitching after a period of server instability and also an incident of people ddosing some of the servers. you can still run back and get shit for free though. the gravestones have only 2 minutes for that but you can teleport fucking anywhere now so it barely matters
>>333166746
>He didnt found the true ending...
>Die as Sora
>have to be rescued as Mickey.
I wouldnt use him but some of the bosses are bullshit
>>333171604
if it was the servers fault then i fee the bitching was justified
then again it may be someone who was fighting the huge cockroaches and was mad at "lag"(i never was a member so those things were the closest things to bosses)
and Tping used to be a sign of your power too "wow he can tp to X ima ask him for shit"
now you can use the teleport to lumby spell and go anywhere
