>vs WILL defend this
Planetside 2 is a terrible game, it runs worse than a ddos'd toaster, it has 200m/s of built in delay which grants guaranteed peakers advantage and you never feel like your making an impact unless you're working in a group or you're wrel.
Also self motivated games are troublesome
>>333143552
>wrel
Whats wrel?
>>333143661
a person
>implying vs know what teamwork is
I don't play PS2 because I'm garbage at infantry aiming, and there are time/resource limits on vehicles, all of which are easily killed by lock on bullshit from infantry.
In short, infantry niggers need to leave.
>>333145392
>>333145492
I don't get it, are you a VS sympathizer or not? Unless... you're a burger.
>>333145578
Live free in the NC.
Looks like the ugly spore ships I used to make.
I loved Plantside 1. I wish another company would take a crack at a MMOFPS.
It was fun as fuck and a unique experience to play PS2 at its prime with The Enclave. Why isn't there other MMOFPS out there? I really want to play something that trumps PS2.
The magrider has been bullshit since PS1. The ability to move in all directions in huge in a tank fight. It also doesn't help that this game is casual trash and allows the driver to fire the main gun. In PS1, the magrider driver fired some gay balls or some shit. God, PS2 was such a huge disappointment. I hope Smedley kills himself like the scapegoat he used for the SWG changes. It's the only fate for him I will accept.
Also fuck that nigger T.ray and his dumb textures. Durr hurr, let's make paint that clashes with each Empire's main colors. I wish this game never existed. At least that way I'd never feel the disappointment.
>>333145973
There isn't, which is why people hang on to PS2 so much. It's a fucking atrocity, that game is so full of creativity, immersion and potential, but its bad reputation has fucked it forever.
Probably won't be another game like it in the near future.
Fucking ridiculous, the anti-PS2 shills have won.
>>333146024
>driver fires the main gun
I hate this bullshit in modern FPS
>>333143552
> 200m/s of built in delay
200 meters per second delay?
>>333146107
We begged them to make the MBT's proper - they went the casual friendly route.
And then they nerfed liberators.
>>333146090
Fuck you, this game deserved every piece of hate it ever got. Honestly, I never should've gotten excited for any product made by the Lord of Lies John Smedley, whose shitty decisions were the downfall of many of his own creations.
To this day, the game still has less content than PS1. The game is fucking bloated with shitty slightly different weapons with no purpose. There are no interesting base mechanics, no end goal, nothing. It's Battlefield 3 but somehow even shittier. It also doesn't help that the game runs like garbage.
They released the game in an abysmal state. 2 continents and the game BARELY ran. The only reason it got a bad reputation is because it's a fucking bad game. Deal with it, John.
>>333146265
>>333146107
MBTs are really just fucking XP pinatas at the moment.
C4 fairies, ESFs, libs, fury/deci flashes, pretty much anything out there can instagib a MBT
>>333146439
>MBTs are really just fucking XP pinatas at the moment.
Still not the bottom of the food chain. Note that you mostly listed air.
>>333146439
The reason is because they're paper thin, and they're paper thin because the driver has control over the movement and the main firepower of the tank.
Driver and main gunner requiring separate players would halve the amount of MBTs on the field, which would allow the developers to buff them to act like fucking tanks. Also the coordination required from the driver and the gunner would make it significantly harder to utilize.
I just don't understand why they don't do it. There's still the Lightning if you want to be a single man tank.
The porn with the VS is 10/10 would fap again
Does it still basically have two primary weapons or did they finally nerf it?
I quit when i realized i couldn't be a dedicated air support / commander like i used to in the first game without pouring shitloads of smedleybux into my ships.
>>333146684
Also does every server just break down to each faction holding 90% of one continent with a bit of fighting on the main deserty continent? Because that too ruined my time playing the game.
>>333146373
>The game is fucking bloated with shitty slightly different weapons with no purpose.
No, you just don't know how to use them. Don't blame your ignorance on the game.
>There are no interesting base mechanics, no end goal, nothing.
How about it's LITERALLY the ONLY game out there where you can have 150vs150 FPS combined arms battles? You're whining about a goal when the goal is the fucking experience itself: moving through the battlefield, working together, 1v1s, shagging groups, countering all different kinds of enemies. Why else would you play the game?
Also, there's fucking DIRECTIVES you mong.
>It also doesn't help that the game runs like garbage.
Game has been running fucking amazing since the new dev team took over, again, you're ignorant.
>They released the game in an abysmal state. 2 continents and the game BARELY ran.
The game was in beta for a LONG time and it's always been FREE, everybody knew this. You're just an entitled little bitch.
>The only reason it got a bad reputation is because it's a fucking bad game.
The only reason it got a bad reputation was because of entitled little kids like you.
>>333146872
Usually populations are pretty even on the continent an alert is going at with the rest spilling over to other unlocked continents.
>>333146556
>2/4 air
>mostly air
Right now MBTs are like this:
>If you don't know how to use them, you're fucked in the blink of an eye.
>If you KNOW how to use them, you can cause some carnage until someone who actually wants you dead pretty much kills you at will with some overpowered shit
>>333146373
>no end goal
No FPS has any end goal. In Call of Duty, Battlefield or Counter Strike, you play a map and either win or lose. It's the exact same thing in Planetside 2, except the maps are connected on one large scale continent How is this a difficult concept?
>>333146684
You can, but it takes a bit of grinding. Certs are free, they pour in with XP you gain from kills and base caps and shit. The more you know what you're doing, the faster it'll be.
There's also TONS of free promotional codes you can find online that will give you 2x XP boosts for an hour or a day or some shit. Every now and then you've got special 2x XP weekends or days, and when you activate those babies on that kind of day, during an alert (which adds 35% extra XP), you can pretty much cert everything in your niche of preference.
>>333147002
>How about it's LITERALLY the ONLY game out there where you can have 150vs150 FPS combined arms battles?
Well lets not go overboard here. AFAIK planetside2 renders only up to 48 other players in visibility to you as well as severely cutting render distance with the increase of players in the area.
>>333147229
>48 players at a time
That's bullshit and I don't believe it.
>>333147091
>>2/4 air
>>mostly air
If you want to get autistic...
LA's don't come out of nowhere (drifting in the AIR) and flashes are neither so prevalent nor so threatening as to be on that list in the first place. A galaxy could land on an MBT just as well.
Can't wait for the base building and continent pop balance mechanics. Got tired of playing Indar 24/7 because the the other continents were always dominated by one faction.
>>333147229
>AFAIK planetside2 renders only up to 48 other players in visibility to you as well as severely cutting render distance with the increase of players in the area.
Absolutely not, entirely dictated by settings.
PS2 actually broke the Guinness world record of most players in a single gaming instance. 1158 players. Everything rendered, even the best systems were brought to their knees but it was fucking glorious. The community is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITj1cNz69EU
Entire battle here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb54iuks3UM
>>333147002
>Entitled
THE SHILLING IS REAL.
So, the weapons. You are lying out your ass, nigga. A huge majority of the guns are nearly exactly the same but with minor stat alterations. Nanite System weapons blur the lines between faction uniqueness, another blow to the game's design. It's bloat bloat bloat. PS1 had actual game design. There were weapons with purpose and each were very different from each other, especially from faction to faction. God, hearing the jackhammer made my anus clench. But in PS2, everyone can have an automatic shotgun (there are like 50 of them too). Also pump action and semi auto shotguns, which there are 50 more variants of.
And no, there is no goal. In PS1, the ultimate goal was to lock people into their sanctuary. They legit couldn't play the game. Not only this, but you were able to use their technology until the lock expires. This was an amazing feeling. I'm sorry you and >>333147205 are too dumb to comprehend this. I suggest killing yourselves and saving the world from your existence.
PS1 simply had good game design. I mean, even the concept of taking over bases was better. Specific bases actually had things you wanted. For example, one type of base gave your vehicles SHIELDS. Now that's something worth fighting for. You talk about your dumb immersion, but PS1 even did that better. There was nothing better than driving your prowler with two other people in Teamspeak. Someone actually had to fire the gun for you.
The shooting in PS1 wasn't that great, but PS2 is casual trash. There's no skill to it. It's Battlefield-tier.
And let's go back to entitled. That's a reddit-tier non-argument, but I'll entertain it anyways. PS2 was RELEASED, NOT BETA YOU DUMB NIG, in a horrible state for a cash grab. It was buggy as fuck and barely ran. It was plagued with crashes and bugs. There was barely any content. It had and still has less content than PS1 and the game design is a mess to this day. Deal with it, nigga. >>>/reddit/
>>333147540
So your counter-argument is a 3rd person dev freelook camera. It wasn't 1158 players in a single engagement and the event itself kept crashing/lagging the server.
>Absolutely not, entirely dictated by settings.
Draw distance for vehicles and players is hardcoded and affected by player numbers in the area.
Planetside 2 is unique as an MMOFPS, if only there was some competition. The only other remotely interesting online FPS is Tribes:Ascend, I guess the gaming industry ran out of ideas.
>>333147896
eternal crusade is on the way
infantry online > any iteration of planetside, though
>mfw no matter how hard dedgam faggots scream "dedgam" I'll enjoy PS2 until the last russian leaves the last server
I fucking love this game and there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop me.
>>333147649
>A huge majority of the guns are nearly exactly the same but with minor stat alterations
You do realise that those "minor" stat alterations make for entirely different guns, right? Different types of recoil are more suited for different distances, different rates of fire are more suited for different situations, different damages and recoil combinations are better for headshotting and worse for bodyshotting, some guns do amazing damage but have small magazines and some guns do average damage but can last forever in a firefight.
You don't know fucking shit.
>They legit couldn't play the game.
Yeah wow, great idea. People have 800-1000 dollar systems, a lot of them mainly for PS2, let's lock them out of the game LEL.
>Specific bases actually had things you wanted. For example, one type of base gave your vehicles SHIELDS.
Literally the same in PS2. Biolabs give infantry passive health regen (which has also seriously been buffed recently) and tech plants allow you to buy MBTs in bases other than the warpgate.
>but PS2 is casual trash. There's no skill to it. It's Battlefield-tier.
You have got to be fucking joking. Guns wildly differ even in a single faction, nevermind between different factions. Are you seriously saying the Gauss SAW is as easy and simple to use as the Solstice? Again, you don't know shit.
>PS2 was RELEASED, NOT BETA YOU DUMB NIG
Yeah m8, that's why open beta participants have a special decal available: http://planetside.wikia.com/wiki/File:PlanetSide_Beta_Decal.png
top lel
>>333148218
That's fine. If someone was playing in the garbage and having fun, I wouldn't stop them.
>>333148256
>>333147649
Saved.
>>333148218
>if i enjoy eating shit, that makes it not shit
>>333147210
>You can, but it takes a bit of grinding
Too much for me, i was even in the position where i was good enough to be able to afford a plane after having just used one usually.
But the dynamic just isn't the same, people are different, playerbase is generic FPSkiddies these days rather than the ex-army / armchair infantrymen that used to populate the old game.
Plus i hate P2W (and even P2NotGrind) F2P games so it was really just the worst of all worlds rolled into one.
SMEDLEEEEEEEEEY!
>>333147540
>Guinness World Record
I want you to sit down and ask yourself if measuring shit for the sake of measuring it matters on some grand scale. Because it doesn't. If we wanted to dick-measure by sheer numbers we'd talk about how many hours are wasted by people playing Solitaire on their computers. 1100 people getting together to do the same thing isn't impressive by any scale unless that thing happens to be a gangbang or war.
Now, I'm not demeaning the game because real-war is more hardcore than virtual-war, although it is. I'm criticizing what you consider an achievement, which sits next to "longest hair" and "fastest cup stacking".
Basically what I'm getting at is the sheer logistics that goes into running most basic shit such as a hospital or mass-transit system is more impressive than 1000 people deciding to play the same game.
>>333148546
>ex-army / armchair infantrymen that used to populate the old game.
You're actually right about that.
I remember in cnc Renegade there was this guy called Jarhead(numbers something something). He was an ex-marine and he was a fucking madman. He was a moderator in the biggest server around at the time and he was a massive fucking nazi (RESPECT MY AUTHORITY), people ended up rebelling against him and it split the renegade community. Up until that happened, I always used to nail him with bugs and exploits to piss him off, so fucking satisfying.
Oh the fun times...
>>333142607
Magrider is pretty much the worst tank in direct engagements with other tanks though as long as the other tanker can aim. My Vanguard runs with AP, maximum ammo, maximum reload speed and the enforcer with the same, racer, and maximum vehicle stealth. The crabs sitting there trying to farm infantry don't even know I am there until we open fire into the rear armor point blank.
Always run with the same dedicated gunner too- there are maybe 2 VS tankers I can think of that ever give us any trouble in one on one fights.
>>333148242
>You do realise that those "minor" stat alterations make for entirely different guns, right?
Sure, sure. You're right. You're technically right. If you just slightly tweak the stats, it's an entirely new gun! Nice thinking, Smedley.
>Yeah wow, great idea. People have 800-1000 dollar systems, a lot of them mainly for PS2, let's lock them out of the game LEL.
This argument is both untrue and dumb. I doubt a lot of people bought a computer just for PS2. In fact, hardly anyone plays it at all. By the way, you could just play on your other characters in PS1, you know? PS1 wasn't about grinding. You just got cert points and did whatever you wanted to do. And not only that, but you could reset them. But 1000 certs for a shotgun is really fun I'm sure.
>Literally the same in PS2. Biolabs give infantry passive health regen (which has also seriously been buffed recently) and tech plants allow you to buy MBTs in bases other than the warpgate.
>Literally the same
>Literally isn't
Wow, super slow health regen! In a game where you can just buy health injectors! Whoa. Now that's a game changer right there. Roger that alpha beta foxtrot, let's take the biolab because we need that slow health regen. I'm glad that years later they're actually adding mechanics to bases now like the ANTs. Now attrition is an actual thing besides people crashing and/or getting bored. You see the problem here? PS2 has been a mess for years. HOW COULD IT HAVE GOTTEN A BAD REPUTATION? Must've been the kids.
>Are you seriously saying the Gauss SAW is as easy and simple to use as the Solstice?
Yes. You just hold the button down and spray. There's almost no recoil for any gun. I used to snipe people with the MCG. Shit was hilarious.
Also, I've been in every phase of the beta, including the tech tests. I got that decal + the PS1 veteran decal.
>>333149101
I know you play NC but could you give me a good anti infantry loadout for the TR MBT?
>>333149361
How about use the anti infantry rounds.
>>333143552
Stick to CS or COD. Shitty games for twelve year olds.
>>333143552
>guaranteed peakers advantage
This is a good thing though
>>333149361
Use HEAT- HE doesn't provide that much of a real blast radius increase, and will make every other tank in the game fuck your ass. If you are gud, you can farm with AP, but you gotta be really gud. Secondary, if you are completely AI no shits given and have a pretty good gunner, get a Kobalt with thermals for your secondary. If you want to do annoying AI from huge range, the Gatekeeper is actually pretty decent at everything. Stay away from the Marauder, it is a shittier Fury.
Take either side armor or infantry radar if you are farming foot mans, depending on the range you plan to do it, side armor for medium-long, radar for close in. Use the Rival chassis to let you turn more quickly so you can move your rear armor plate out of line of sight from infantry launchers more easily, and be prepared for people to rage-bail out of ESF's with light assaults equipped with C4 if you get farmy enough.
Just remember, any anti-infantry set up is going to get fucking wrekt by any AP tank.
>>333147649
>casual trash. There's no skill to it. It's Battlefield-tier.
no fucking shit it's a modern MMO first person shooter, how the fuck would they be able to maintain enough players if it wasn't casual?
goddamn retards I swear
>>333149659
No it isn't what are you high
>>333149101
>maxed enforcer
>mfw
Bitches can't handles my pew pew pew
>>333143552
Peakers advantage?
There's no fucking leaning in PS2
>>333149112
>Are you seriously saying the Gauss SAW is as easy and simple to use as the Solstice?
>Yes. You just hold the button down and spray.
You literally just invalidated everything you said. You don't know shit.
>hold down the button and spray the Gauss SAW
Confirmed for talking out of your fucking ass. Come back when you actually know how the game works.
>>333149112
I need to go to sleep, so I can't continue with John Smedley. I hope you guys can keep up the good fight and keep this game in the trash where it belongs.
This man claims that it was entitled children who gave the game a bad rap that caused the game to die, but even its most dedicated players left the game due to awful decisions and plain ol' not listening to the community. God, it took fucking forever for even the most basic of outfit commands people have been asking for. On release, and I mean official not in beta anymore release, there were only two continents to play on and the game crashed and ran like shit. It took them years to iron this out. It turns out that if you release a game that runs and plays like garbage, people might start having negative opinions of it.
The future only looked bright for PS2 in the beginning, but poor management and design is what truly killed it. John Smedley started cutting people at one point which even led to Higby quitting the team. Even internally it was all a mess. Combine all this together and you have a sub-par game that's been bleeding population since the start. It's unfortunate. I was really hyped for the game as a PS1 veteran.
Maybe the game will be saved now that John is gone? Adding in ANTs and generators that slowly lose power is a good step. It adds more depth to base siege with a war of attrition and resupply.
>>333150251
If you're gonna ignore almost everything I said and just say you don't know shit without providing a counter-argument, I think I can safely leave with my e-dick intact. Have fun, shill. Don't forget to buy those totally different weapons with your daybreak bux and good night.
>>333149361
HE, max anchor, engagement radar or stealth, Marauder on top.
99% of using anti-infantry with a vehicle is two things:
1. Knowing when to pull it
2. Staying the FUCK away from enemy vehicles other than Harassers
Find yourself good spots where you're safe from enemy tanks, or where you're hidden/unseen, close enough to infantry that you can lay waste to clusters of them, far away enough so that light assaults and AV faggots don't have a shot at you... THEN you'll have a great time. If you don't find the right spots at the right time, it'll be awful.
>>333150340
>If you're gonna ignore almost everything I said
If you claim you can just pray and spray with the Gauss SAW it's pretty clear you don't know shit about the game, you obvious fucking shill. Pretty much invalidated everything you've said with that retarded statement. Your posts are a waste of time.
>>333150490
> Guy shitting on the game.
> Shill
Is he shilling for another game?
>>333148000
>infantry online
you are my negro
Only reason really to play Planetside 2 is that Battlefield 2142 servers are long dead. Which makes me sad. I miss that game.
>>333150490
Okay, one more. You're a treat, John. Yes, if you aim down the sights with any of the non semi-auto rifles, you can just hold the fire button down and move your mouse down a bit. There is very little that needs to be controlled and only occasionally do you need to stop firing for spread. I guess you're trying to argue that you shouldn't be spraying it from sniper rifle range? Well, yeah, obviously.
I like how you think you can ignore everything I said just because you don't agree with how I said something about the bullets. Yes, literally everything I've said so far is invalidated because I criticized the super high infantry skill ceiling in the game. Slowly, over time, you've ignored things you can't counter and now you've reduced yourself to latching onto a single thing. Great job, anon. I hope this conversation didn't leave you too flustered now.
>>333150739
Weren't you supposed to go back to bed? You seem awfully bothered with this m8
Also, didn't bother reading because you already invalidated yourself with your clear ignorance of the game.
Sleep tight ;)
>>333150939
> I didn't even read your post
> Calls others ignorant
Yeah you showed him, time to guy start playing PS2 again you sure convinced me with those hot opinions.
>>333150739
I am not the guy you have been arguing with, but you really DO need to feather the gauss SAW a bit, otherwise the spread gets to be way too much way too fast.
>>333148000
>Infantry Online
I will forever miss my Rapier tank mowing down heathens. That shit was godly.
>>333150576
>implying EA isn't pissed as fuck about Battlefront flopping
>implying EA isn't pissed as fuck about Battleflop constantly being compared with PS2
>implying EA doesn't want to get their dirty little hands on the MMOFPS niche
There's no way anyone has that much irrational hate for a FREE game with a userbase of like 5,000 players without having some kind of ulterior motive.
>>333149721
>>333150379
Alright thanks
>>333152764
you're welcome
I dont think I've had more fun or pulled off more crazy shit in any other FPS game in the last 20 years than in Planetside 2.
Flying between trees in a mosquito while being chased by 5 enemies. Ambushing squads and setting traps in the road. Staring in awe at the 20 galaxy drop and 40 tank convoys. Watching hundreds of guns firing into the air with traces in all directions in the night. Being able to constantly do cool things like have an intense dog fight, jump out of the sky with your jetpack, land on an enemy tank and destroy then gun down enemy soldiers while escaping. So many amazing and great moments.
>>333154207
Yep, there's no other game that currently offers that kind of thrill.
>>333154207
I've been playing on and off since beta because there's no other game that does it better. Even with all it's flaws, PS2 is pretty damn fun
>>333152208
Maybe hes a fan of the original and just doesn't like the decisions made in the sequel? I know it was a major disappointment to me.
IS THE GAME DEAD
I DON'T WANT IT TO BE DEAD
I WANT TO RETURN
>>333155921
IT'S ALIVE BUT WE NEED MOAR
The game definitely has the potential to go on for years, unless the shills have their say
There's some people out there with a fucking crusade against this beautiful game for some reason. They're just messed in the head
>>333155921
I never have trouble finding battles on Emerald server
No SINGLE game out there where you can experience this kind of fucking hilarity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOgcydhbxeM&feature=youtu.be&t=23s
>>333156531
>Doesn't even have to adjust his aim for bullet drop
Lmao how is this balanced.
>>333143552
This. Bio-dome grinds are lame and bought advantages suck dick.
>>333156703
it's a laser gun, why would a laser gun have drop?
>>333156381
>>333156456
alright I'm redownloading
fuck I loved this game back then
>>333156381
>There's some people out there with a fucking crusade against this beautiful game for some reason.
Maybe because pay2win f2p is a shitty model and PS1 a pay2play game is still, a decade and change on, superior to the sequel you are LITERALLY shilling in this thread while calling others shills.
Have a shitload of fun with my buddy tanking around.
Redownloading. I hope you niggers areTR.
>>333156531
> There is no single game where people can walk into your shots.
Are you retarded? Literally every FPS.
