What do you want in Xenoverse 2, /v/?
Personally, I just want the first game + Dragon Ball Super characters, but with Budokai 3 combat.
>>333113151
Latino audio option.
>>333113542
we can't even get an official english dub for super, let alone latino
>>333113151
I don't want more shit games, thanks.
>>333113151
First game + more character + better fucking controls + The ability to change how your character fights.
Oh right. Beam struggles and Ally assists on knocked away enemies.
>>333113151
>What do you want in Xenoverse 2
Gameplay that isn't shit, for starters
>>333113151
That ;ppls terribler.
I want another non-card based DB JRPG.
>>333113151
How did this stupid kid Saiyan get up to the level of the gods?
Did they forget that their BASE forms are on par with Beerus now?
>>333113926
Hes not. He gets BTFO by Vegetable.
>>333113926vegeta is jobbing, he's pretending to even take hits, when he finally hits back he one hits him
also cabba is an adult
>>333114093
Vegeta flat out said they were equal when they were fighting in their normal forms.
>>333113883
Xenoverse gameplay is oddly similar to Musous, where you mow down fodder, but bosses have a lot of super armor. Except Xenoverse has no fodder.
>>333113151
Who the hell is that little shit punching Vegeta?
>>333114191
Vegeta's other other brother.
>>333113604
>we can't even get an official english dub for super
That's different though, we did it first, and we did it better. DBZ is a bigger pop culture phenomenon in central and South America than it is in the US. They even brought back the old cast for the movies, and that's a pretty big achievement considering all the shit that those VAs have to endure.
Also IIRC Super is going to be coming out on Toonami this year.
>>333114239
>>333113151
Man this show really looks like trash.
>>333113151
I haven't seen a single episode of super. Someone tell me wtf am I looking at?
>>333113151
Just gimme Champa and I'll buy it.
>>333113604
Saint Seiya and Naruto are getting dubs for Latam. DB will be no exception the next game for sure.
>>333114242
Toonami Asia, sadly. It's going to be the equivalent of the translation of an Asian-only "English" game, but as a dub.
>>333114191
Cabba. He's the Saiyan representing Universe 7.
>>333114143
To be fair, unlike Goku, Vegeta doesn't have the power of the base Super Saiyan God in his base form (IIRC) as he never obtained it, only SSGSS.
>>333114332
Oh, it is.
>>333114464
Toei is the fucking worst.
>>333114464
>recap arcs
The animation in those was fucking AWFUL, save for the Goku v Beerus fight.
The current animation is nothing to praise to the moon and back, but it's far better than this trash.
>>333113151
Excise the equipment and skill drops. Instead, expand the master system and have what skills and clothes you get correlate with your master. Want the Ginyu Force uniform? Go join them. Want to learn the Destructo disc? Go train with Krillin.
As it stands now, the master system sucks and the drop rates ruin the game.
>>333114464
>wait for the BluRays
>>333114528
They better redraw that shit for the blu ray release.
And skip the first thirty episodes.
>>333113151
>>333114464
Is the plot at least interesting to make up for this shitty animation?
>>333114565
When do the movie recap arcs end? Maybe I'll start watching from there.
People who like the new art should be fucked back and aborted.
>>333114682
90s cel version.
>>333114667
Yes. The current arc has the most interesting fights since Majin Vegeta.
The current arc starts at episode 28.
>>333114667
28 I think?
>>333114667
>Is the plot at least interesting to make up for this shitty animation?
Not really.
>>333114791
>>333114682
HOW THE FUCK DID IT GET WORSE THAN THE 90'S?
>>333114667
>Is the plot at least interesting to make up for this shitty animation?
No. It's toddler filler level. Nothing of consequence happening and characters act like flanderized parodies of themselves.
>>333114667
It's just a shitty tournament arc started over a flimsy excuse nobody cares about and there are no stakes if our heroes lose at all.
![SSGSS_GOKU[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/om39mrp.jpg "SSGSS_GOKU[1].png")
This is a 42 year old martial artist
>>333114682
The 90s one lost the texture of the undersuit, it's not supposed to be skintight
>>333113151
>Budokai 3 combat
What a fucking terrible idea.
>Actual DBZ-like fighting
or
>Generic fighting game fighting
>>333114983
Messy production schedule and new (young) animators with no talent.
And the fight choreography looks like stiff shit because they aren't allowed as many drawings as DBZ was back then.
>>333114682
The worst thing was that all the girls got less thick and turned into skellingtons.
The real problem with Super right now is that there's no real threat or stakes.
Nobody really gives a shit if they lose the tournament because they all know it doesn't really matter.
>>333115103
whenever a game tries to have real dbz fighting all the characters play the same
>>333114983
animator have no skill now. and even less budget.
>>333115035
With the physical age of like a 34 year old tops.
constantly being dead for long periods of time keeps him at a pretty young age.
Vegeta is old as shit though.
>>333115008
JESUS FUCK I THREW UP IN MY MOUTH
>>333114464
Jesus Christ this is worse than fan art.
Should have just let DBZ die out and let people enjoy their nostalgia. That is terrible.
>>333114682
>>333114791
Nostalgia goggles, DB quality has always been highly variable. Also not sure if that's from Fukkatsu or from Super since I've only seen the movie once but the bottom expression fits the scene far more.
>>333113542
No WE need the french voices. Éric Legrand is the best vegeta
>>333114983
90's is probably high peak of anime "animation", it was all hand drawn cells, so it has a unique style. Today all anime is animated by digital programs (think something like flash, but a little better)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsiepGvjjTM
This one is from 1995. All hand drawn.
>>333115161
being young has nothing to do with it, they just have no fucking budget
>>333115035
Do the hair colors make them stronger?
>>333115008
ppfftHAHAHAH
>>333114464
This looks more like a parody wtf
>>333115392
I just rewatched a good chunk of the buu saga and some of it is pretty well drawn, and then some of it is literally line art.
Also fuck the Vegito fight that shit was so anti-hype what the fuck. My childhood.
>>333115392
>Still frame
We've been over this. There's a difference between a still frame and actively bad animation like Super's.
>>333115392
It was obvious starting from the Cell saga they had two animation teams. But it was usually filler episodes that were shitty looking.
The talent DBZ team had nailed the look by the start of the Buu saga though. This new shit is worse than the old shit animation team from the 90s.
>>333115402
>Today all anime is animated by digital programs
You are silly.
>>333114667
The current plot is that Champa wants to eat Earths food so he starts a tournament to win Earth over to his universe. That's it.
Everyones response is basically "So what?" since Earth getting moved to a different universe doesn't actually mean anything.
>>333115392
Except that your example is not how he looked over the entire episode. Super looks like shit because the character designs and art are utter shit most of the time.
This has nothing to do with the animation, which is another insulting problem all on its own.
>>333114464
Still looks better than the new Sailor Moon.
>>333115609
Vegetoo was waay stronger though. how would a good fight come of that?
>>333115307
>whenever a game tries to have real dbz fighting all the characters play the same
That's literally Budokai as well. IIRC most combos began with PPPP→E. Even the SNES fighting games and beyond used the same inputs for special attacks.
Only thing Budokai series did right was making in-battle transformations worthwhile. I'd like to see that implemented in other DBZ games
>>333115782
Maybe Buu actually trying to get creative and making use of all his new abilities instead of just getting fucking styled on?
>>333113151
>really excited about xenoverse
>didn't want to buy it before my videocard arrived
>game released
>Its grindy as fuck
>its cheesy as fuck
>saiyans spamming supers
>melee combat barely works
>decide not to buy it
i just wanted something like the classic dbz games like budokai tekaichi or even raging blast
>>333115843
>his new abilities instead of just getting fucking styled on?
The gohan in him held him back.
DBZ was handled by several different animation studios, which explains the different art styles you see throughout its run.
Modern DB stuff, especially Super is produced solely in house by Toei themselves. This explains the consistently abymsal quality of art and animation.
And thanks to the stiff production schedule and no incentive to organize it better, the show will look shit like that until it ends.
>>333115782
Don't have it be forty minutes of him getting dick punched and reforming. It was fine at first but then they did it like 4 times.
He only used kamakazi ghosts and kamehameha
>>333113151
is it just me or does the new show look like shit?
i've never watched it
>>333115392
>but the bottom expression fits the scene far more.
I hope you're joking. The bottom one looks stiff and lifeless as fuck.
>>333115627
>We've been over this. There's a difference between a still frame and actively bad animation like Super's.
See here. I apologize for the Faulconshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeSxb9I-iNQ&t=35m43s
>>333115738
Yet most people (like the retard I quoted) argue that it's bad animation.
>>333116224
>disliking the best dub soundtrack
fucking weeb
>>333114682
I hate how plastic everything looks from the shininess.
Also the tick in primary colors
Those things makes the animation consistently worse than anything on DBZ.
>>333115920
Whatever gohan touches he ruins.
>>333116296
fuck you, dragon ball games are far better anything /a/ could call a videogame
>>333116224
Art and animation are two different things. Former is the designs of the characters, how they are drawn in still shots, whether they are on model or not. Animation is obviously the movement, how camera is placed and whether the blows have any impact whatsoever.
And Super sucks in both regards 90% of the time.
>>333116224
That's one of my favorite fights.
Also the second half(Roughly from when Cell blew up the ring) is way better animated.
>>333115307
>all the characters play the same
You mean like Budokai 3?
>>333115790
you actually had different combos for pretty much every attack including kamehameha iirc, so you could go --> e, ppp-->e or something else-->e, which gave you some options for stringing longer combos.
and for secondary specials like dragon fist the commands tended to vary more.
to be honest i prefer having specials inserted into combos on top of being usable by themselves, rather than have something like RB2 where it's all allocated to the right stick. i dunno it just feels more "fight game-ish" to have that string of commands/attacks. though maybe it's only good in 2D/2.5D games (i call dbz budokai 3 2.5D because you can circle around the enemy rather than being locked onto face-to-face and jumping.)
>>333116407
>I hate how plastic everything looks from the shininess.
The sheen is intentional. Yamamuro, the chief character designer apparently insists on them and everyone follows suit.
And I agree, it looks absolutely disgusting, as if they are coated in grease 24/7. The shading is just very bland and simple.
>>333113151
Better melee options for combat
AI actually respecting the Ki/Stamina system instead of spamming Ultimates out the ass.
Beam Struggles
Less RNG on Ultimate Finishes
>>333115326
good thing saiyans maintain their physical prime til 80
>>333116568
>Didn't play the game
Literally name two characters that played the same
So what fusions you wanna see for that 3DS game coming out later this year?
>>333117156
Bulma and 18
>>333116894
Goku and super saiyan Goku
>>333117156
Beerus and Champa
>>333117289
those are not two different characters
>>333115394
mon nigga
>>333115003
So what you're saying is it's standard DBZ plot?
>>333115361
there was no reason it couldn't be continued, it's just that they decided to spend NO MONEY on it so it looks like shit and has forever ruined the franchise
Anime fan service fighters are dead now. And they will stay dead until dlc stops being a thing
>>333114404
And even before that Vegeta never reached beyond SSJ2. I remember the movie had a line about Vegeta somehow becoming stronger while SSJ2 than SSJ3 Goku because of rage. But I don't believe the anime series, which Toriyama says is canon, included it.
>>333117924
>Forever ruined a franchise that ended in 1997
wew
>>333117156
Doesn't matter, all we're getting is saiyan based fusions for most of the slots anyway.
>>333117156
Bulma and Chi Chi so I can team them up with Gogeta and Vegeto.
>>333118373
>>333117848
>>333117249
Are any of the female characters even in the game?
>>333117629
If you have a good director and storyboards you can make the most mundane and trivially stupid shit captivating and exciting. Super fails on all imaginable levels in that regard.
>>333118517
Videl + Pan was in one of the scans
it's too big to post
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball:_Fusions#Gallery
>>333113853
FUCKING THIS ALSO ADD MORE TRANSFORMATIONS FOR ALL RACES
>>333118517
I actually don't know.
>>333118685
Oh wait that's cool then.
>>333118573
Still sounds like standard DBZ to me.
>>333114242
>Super on Toonami later this year
>Funimation still can't be assed enough to dub the Kai Bui Saga
Almost 6 years of collecting Kai and I have to look at that huge gaping hole between Cell Saga and Battle of Gods when going through my DVD rack.Xenoverse 2 needs more movies and greater variation in gameplay objectives to be better. Xenoverse feels like a fanservice game, but a bare minimum one at that for all the "what-if" it pushed, and it teases you with stuff like the Frieza race time patrol talking about how he fought King Piccolo who took over Earth & the Red Ribbon Androids. BT2 was better with amnesia Raditz and traitor Zarbon in the what-if department, and even B1 had Cellin.
>>333118685
>Tien+Yamcha
It's been a decade or so but Tiencha finally returns!
>>333119035
>still weaker than First Form Frieza
>>333113151
dragon ball kai buu saga dub when?
>>333118823
DBZ managed to have believable threats and high tension some times.
Super only has one moment with tension, and everything is just a joke. Everyone they've fought except Beerus so far has been a total push over.
>>333119675
>DBZ managed to have believable threats and high tension some times.
And yet the Buu arc could've ended at least 4 times if it weren't for characters constantly jobbing. At least every threat before that was actually a threat
>>333119850
>Goku jobs
>Gohan super jobs
>Vegito jobs
>Goku jobs again
Vegeta gets honorary jobbing mention for the Majin shit.
>>333113151
the combat was fine
what they should change is
>ssj more like unlocked potential
>no rng
>ssj hair spikes
>more races like android and alien race
>transformations for every race
>more colorable clothes
>no stats on clothes
>less and more usefull zsouls
>no gimmick zsouls that only work on specific situations like (can only be used when the enemy revives)
>better netcode and more options for the host in pvp like removing timer, items, zsouls
>kid buu version for buu race
>>333120210
Vegeta just want strong enough to beat him.
Goku and Vegito just didn't try.
![hqdefault[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/m93Cjvr.jpg "hqdefault[2].jpg")
>>333120210
>Gohan super jobs
The one thing I can say about Super is that it's never made me this mad
>>333120381
>Vegeta just want strong enough to beat him.
But even then, he's responsible for gathering enough energy to get Buu out.
>>333120381
Exactly why he gets honorary jobbing mention for starting it but not fucking up and not finishing it like everyone else. At least he tried.
>Oh hey I didnt kill kid buu because I wanted you to have your shot vegeta
>But now I cant kill him because I wasted too much energy
>Go get raped for ten minutes and buy me time to spirit bomb him
>>333120210
>Goku jobs
>"Hurrdurr I could've beat Buu in SSJ3 form I swear!"
>>Gohan super jobs
>"Durr I'm gonna fuck around with Buu EXACTLY how I did with Cell"
>"I can't catch a fucking earring"
>Vegito jobs
>I forgot what the fuck he was doing aside from wanting to get eaten
>Goku jobs again
"Oh fuck oh fuck I should've not used SSJ3 for so long"
>>333120265
>ssj hair spikes
This is one that particularly confuses me. Even Dragon Ball Online had that shit sorted, and that was a half-assed Korean grinding simulator, so how did Xenoverse manage to miss it?
I know they weren't expecting Xenoverse to sell well, but did they really think it'd do so badly that people wouldn't notice when they cut corners like that?
>>333114342
He is mine
Back the fuck off!
>>333120649
no time to implement it
like 80% of cell saga
>>333113151
wasnt this guy not suppose to know what super sayain was?
>>333113926
None of them compare unless not-Cell has anything interesting.
>>333120909
not knowing =/= not being able to
>>333120909
He doesn't. Vegeta baits him into getting mad and transforming.
>>333115008
>there are no stakes if our heroes lose at all.
The Earth gets moved to another universe.
Can someone give me an update on where Goku/Vegeta are standing, power-wise? Are they the strongest yet?
>>333121065
wow im really glad i havent watched a single episode of this shit
>>333121145
Which means nothing because it's just the same universe except their Saiyans aren't a gigantic bag of dead dicks.
>>333121149
They're on par with Gods of the universe, which is completely ridiculous. And they keep getting new Super Saiyan levels.
>>333120625
>I forgot what the fuck he was doing aside from wanting to get eaten
He was planning on rescuing who he could from inside Buu. He had no idea that it'd split him back into Goku and Vegeta.
>>333114332
>>333114464
>>333115361
>>333114667
>>333114628
>>333114565
>itt people forget how bad DBZ itself looked most of the time
Dragon ball animation wise has always varied from utter dogshit to okay at any given time. Super isn't any different.
Less spam would be nice
>>333115392
>Nostalgia goggles
You must be literally blind
>>333115276
the only problem is that Is Bills gets the Dragon Balls he just might wish for the destruction of the whole universe.
hence why Bulma wants to get them before Bills does
>>333121404
Oh. Thanks.
>>333121370
>They're on par with Gods of the universe
No, Beeru could still take them. Goku and Vegeta might stand a chance if they teamed up though.
>>333121149
>Can someone give me an update on where Goku/Vegeta are standing, power-wise? Are they the strongest yet?
No.
>>333121370
>They're on par with Gods of the universe
Not really. Beerus was toying with Goky. Whis would slaughter Goku and Vegeta simultaneously.
>which is completely ridiculous
Yes, the Saiyan power levels are getting ridiculous.
>>333121425
90's animation is just better. The current animation techniques look like flash sometimes.
2D animation is a dying form and will never return to its former glory.
>>333113151
Androids and Bio-Androids, make being a female Saiyan something. So you can tell all the other Saiyans to stop hitting on you until they can beat you in combat. No tail grabbing.
>>333121559
stop
More clothing and more customization options for them. For example the saiyan armor, instead of a selection that's like "saiyan armor 1, saiyan armor 2, etc, Bardock's armor" just make it where you have a few different saiyan armors and you can customize each part of it. Attach groin pads, shouder pads, change the loops over the shoulders, add a V neck, add symbols, etc. Put the right parts and colors on it and you can recreate armor of official characters if you want.
>>333115738
>>333115392
No, plenty of episodes looked shit the whole way through.
A good example is the 16 vs imperfect cell fight.It lasted two episodes. The first episode was animated terribily and looked like complete garbage, in the second, it has some of the best art the series has seen.
>>333121631
No, you are just an idiot with nostalgia gogles. Plenty of Digital 2d animation looks far better then it ever could traditionally.
>>333121941
>No, you are just an idiot with nostalgia gogles. Plenty of Digital 2d animation looks far better then it ever could traditionally.
I keep hearing that. I am not seeing it.
>>333114682
Top looks like shit senpai, there I said it. Maybe cause it's fan art, but that should wouldn't pass nowadays.
>>333121631
The problem is time and money. The animation industry in Japan in particular is especially fickle. It has nothing to do with producing a quality product, if something is destined for television, it is produced to a time table and the product in question's quality is second to expediency of production. They just need something to put on the screen, anything.
In terms of planning, Japan's television/animation industry is very poor. America is actually leagues better at managing it's animation. As an example, it takes one whole year to produce an episode of Futurama.
>>333113542
>grew up watching DBZ up to buu saga with latino dub
>absolutely glorious
One of the reasons why DBZ holds a special place in my heart.
>>333122057
Fucking atrocious bait. You should be ashamed.
>>333122218
Marry me
>>333122139
Taking an entire year to produce one episode doesn't really sound impressive.
>>333122139
>>333122020
Well, the best piece of animation i've ever seen period was something made 2 years ago:
https://vimeo.com/114099080 it starts at 1:30
If 2deep5u bullshit isn't your thing then you can ignore the symbolism going on but just in terms of the animation alone I think you'd appreciate how damn good it is
>b-but that's just a music video it can afford to have animation that good!
Yeah well I can't think of a single old animated series that has consistently good animation either, most of the really good stuff iis OVA's or movies, same as now. I'd say gurren lagann has pretty consistently good animation though.
>>333121425
>Super isn't any different.
Super is different in that it's lows are the lowest the franchise has seen, but it's highs don't even come close to those of DB/Z (though it's pretty close to GT in all honesty). It's just got a much worse average is all.
The shitty choreography isn't helping hide the bad animation either. They need to bring Toyotaro in to do the storyboards; his manga still follows the same boring plot points, but at least his fights are more fun to look at.
>>333122057
r u blind
>>333122235
Looks discolored as fuck, check your eyes. That may work traditionally drawn but it looks like ass digitally. Unless the fan art is just shit at recreating the original style.
>>333122278
Every episode is produced roughly at the same time and they manage to meet all slot time-tables. They plan ahead. A show like Dragonball Super is produced on demand, which means they need to do it quickly and cheaply, and that is why the quality is absolutely atrocious.
>>333113151
>I just want the first game
>but with Budokai 3 combat.
So you don't want the first game, then? You're asking for a completely different game here.
>>333122423
see
>>333114791
If you miss the grain.
>>333122423
>I'll use a bunch of words together that don't mean anything, that'll fool em
>>333122485
>A show like Dragonball Super is produced on demand, which means they need to do it quickly and cheaply, and that is why the quality is absolutely atrocious.
Doesn't help they pretty much have a week to make new stuff,
>>333122218
Latino dub is superior even to Original, this is objective.
New Day DLC when?
>>333122853
>I'm too autistic understand what he said so let me pretend what he said means nothing.
>>333118274
Doesn't hurt to have hope anyway
>>333124616
>>333113151
Budokai 3 on PC oh yeah!
>>333123406
Oh, make me realize that the white ranger's armor is almost the same as saiyans.
>>333113151
Complete removal of RNG shit for clothing items, Dragon Balls and whatnot.
>>333114332
this episode was good though
>>333116224
>Jewtube and Funishit forcing everyone to change the voices into squeaky or deep
capitalism destroys all
>>333113151
Vegeta vs Magetta was better than this episode tho
>>333113151
I stopped watching right before Goku fought Winnie the Pooh. I think I'm going to wait until this arc is done, and then just marathon the whole thing. Is this show supposed to end after this arc?
Take the example of Tenkaichi 3's gameplay, make it better and faster if possible. Have that variety of characters and add Super. Have character creation again with more races(like Androids/Cell/Robots race, demon/mutant race, Kai race, etc) and allow us to use any kind of transformation. Have what-if scenarios and normal story mode but in different perspectives (like villains). Don't make us fight 7 saibamen or cell jrs. Have 3 vs 3 in-game. Have online with versus, tag, tournament. Download other people's characters and face them or use them offline. Have the equip item system of RB2 with the level system from Budokai 3. No RNG bullshit, just have store in-game with Bulma like the older Budokai did. Have the original japanese or american soundtrack as option and dont rehash the same dragon ball videogame musics for 10 years.
Oh, and make Tenkaichi series available on the PSN, Steam, whatever.
>>333115392
The animation is just bad. Hand drawing was better, this digital toei era is just bad.
The fights look bad overall on Super, while on Db to Z despite some bad draws here and there, the fights looked better and there was choreography into them. Right now there is no choreography in the fights. Just Magetta vs Vegeta looked fine and the 2nd half of SSJ Vegeta vs SSJ Cabba.
And btw, One Piece is also suffering from this toei digital era. Toei is just bad right now. If they can't meet the expectations then have a Super episode every 2 weeks or every month but as a special.
>>333130181
It's possible the tournament will be interrupted by someone, Hit beat Goku and Monaka and Earth is on U6, or U7 wins, just to continue in the search of the last Super Dragon Ball.
>>333118373
You don't need to wait to see that.
>Cabba trying to say "I surrender" while getting kicked up into the air
Broke my heart, was hoping he would have been a bit stronger but still a nice guy.
I only keep up with Supee through reading /v/ DB threads what's going on now since Goku got bodied
>>333133924
>stronger
Did you forget how strong are base form Goku and Vegeta now? Cabba actually fought quite nicely against someone that strong and experienced. Now even their SSJ are much but much stronger because of Saiyan God thing and training.
At this point Goten and Trunks are jokes against a guy like Cabba. Gohan...? Who knows.
>>333134624
>Piccolo almost beats Frost but gets beat too
>Jaco notices Frost is actually using a weapon which is against the rules
>judge finds out Frost is using poison needles
>about to get DQd
>Vegeta steps in and says he'll fight him, tells Piccolo to surrender his match
>Goku gets reinstated as well(he'll go after Vegeta does if Vegeta loses)
>one shots Frost whose real personality is just like Frieza
>fights the metalman guy
>nearly loses but still wins
>fights saiyan in the OP
>intentionally acts cruel to get him to go SS
>one shots him in SSB
>now about to fight the purple guy
And previews for next episode show purple guy destroying Vegeta somehow.
>>333134820
Gohan would probably job to Cabba too, but still, I was sort of hoping he would have given Vegeta a little more trouble.
>>333114791
Fuck. It's so beautiful, man.
>>333134971
So is Piccolo reinstated too then? What a dick.
>Vegeta loses to the strong guy and Goku saves the day
Nice to see nothing has changed
>>333135553
>Implying Monaka wont beat Hit
Beam struggles, better melee, transformations for everyone, less bullshit rng.
>>333135553
Frost was gonna get DQ'd and Piccolo reinstated but Vegeta told him to forfeit his turn so Vegeta could beat up Frost, and then Goku was reinstated later. During all the matches purple dude(Hit) kept his eyes closed. Frost sneaked out of the tournament to try and steal some prize money Champa promised them but Hit followed him and one shotted him with some move no one knows. When Vegeta went SSB Hit opened his eyes, so people think he's able to sense god ki or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUYVto3Yb8w
>>333135649
>implying Monaka isn't actually weak
>>333134971
>Gohan would probably job to Cabba too, but still, I was sort of hoping he would have given Vegeta a little more trouble.
In the anime it seems Gohan is training again. But that Gohan against Freeza was a joke.
The universe 6 warriors until now seemed more about gimmicks than raw strength. Hit seems like both from the preview, unless his speed is based as hell+ the ability to fuck people up with their ki
About Cabba, I didn't expect much of him from the moment he didn't know what a super saiyan was.
>>333121914
add more hair options for Human, Saiyans
>>333115035
He's like 30 something, and saiyajins are young even when they're 80.
>>333135763
What makes you think he's weak?
>Inb4 he passed out with Goku's Kamehameha
He was just bored.
Transformations to be actual transformations rather than seperate characters.
>>333136150
Inb4 he only exists to get Hit to kill him and get disqualified because of how weak he is.
>>333135649
Monaka just random dude without strength.
>>333136087
Botamo was pure gimmick. Frost was actual strength like Frieza just a lot weaker so he had to resort to cheating. Magetta was essentially pure strength too but Champa was a faggot and exploited his heat abilities with that barrier, Cabba was pure strength too but obviously now shown to be weak compared to Goku/Vegeta. Hit is probably gonna have a dumb gimmick power we don't know about too.
>>333136150
>Whis asking Beerus how long he's gonna keep Monakas true colors a secret for
>>333136232
Only thing I can see him doing is just some stupid joke fighting style involving his nipples or something.
This parallel universe suck balls at power level.
No trained freeza.
No cell.
No buu.
No SSJ.
It seems without Earth galaxy was very peaceful place.
>>333113542
No. You have to go back.
>>333136380
I honestly think he's either just some guy that Beerus is hyping up to keep Goku and Vegeta on their toes knowing there's someone else above them. Either that or he has some one time gimmick that makes him lose all control.
He could even be like a puppet for Beerus to control through meditation.
>>333136431
Why did Champa even challenge Beerus when his fighters are so terrible compared to his
>>333136254
Beerus wouldnt be an idiot putting someone like Monaka at last.
>>333136232
Or he somehow beats Hit, probably Hit's powers dont work on him because reasons.
>>333136431
I mean, it's not peaceful. Frost was waging wars on planets just to lower their land prices.
>>333136380
>Cabba was pure strength
He is weak, even compared to Piccolo.
Base Cabba ~ Base Goku/Vegeta
Final Freeza > Base Goku
Piccolo ~< Final Freeza
>>333130181
Why don't just wait until BDs come out? BDs look much better than TV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teVAkz3BNeI
first 2 arcs are already out in BD
>>333136516
>He could even be like a puppet for Beerus to control through meditation.
I like that idea actually
>>333136551
He didn't expect Goku or Vegeta to be so strong. He does have a lot of faith in Hit though.
>>333136623
I mean his fighting style, it's all actual skill on his part. Plus Piccolo was a lot weaker than Final Frost, he only stood a chance because Frost was heavily weakened and he could only rely on a Special Beam Cannon he was charging the whole fight.
>>333113151
>ability to wear more
>ability to color every portion of clothing
>original moves maybe
>more races
>fix the drop system from being a small percentage of a small percentage
>>333113542
why I'm just content with jap.
>>333123406
>Michael Cole namedropping Vegeta at Wrestlemania
>>333113151
i want to fight with Mah boy Magetta
>>333136431
Are you retarded or just pretending? You do realize all these guys could solo Super buu after absorbing Gohan easily, right? You're not so stupid to believe because Goku and Vegeta didn't went past SSJ it means they're not as strong right?
>>333136623
>Final Frieza > Base Goku
Wrong they were equals, and this Goku is stronger than he was in RoF.
>>333121469
How can the dragonballs grant a wish to destroy the whole universe? What happened to the rule that the dragonballs are only as strong as it's creator?
>>333136380
I will say that Magetta has also a pretty solid defense. No wonder he got sad for losing like that.
Overall U6 is a disappointment since we were kinda expecting some really strong dudes from the other universe, but until now nope. If it wasn't for Frost, Goku if serious or just Vegeta could take everyone alone until Hit.
>>333136551
He can't judge others powerlevels like Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, hell even Master Roshi can. And Vados is laughing internally.
>>333137302
Oh anon you don't know about the Super Dragon Balls. The ones as big as planets that can grant any wish.
>>333137321
Yeah they had to write out some of the U7 people too
>Buu fails the entrance test
>Goku gets poisoned out
>Piccolo willingly forfeits just for Vegeta
>Vegeta probably gonna get jobbed but not after wrecking shit for 3 straight battles
I wonder how Goku will fair against Hit.
>>333113151
better controls and fluid movement. I mean you are fighting as martial artist, and all of them play the same just their stats are different.
So let's say, Saiyans are all rounders
Humans take more skill to play because they rely on technique than strength,
Nameks are are the slower but can recover faster and maintain ki better, frieza clan is speedy and majins can do status effects and move more clumsy but they do damage while doing it.
this all has to do with the characters actual movement. So the reaction from control to character has to be imidiate.
now if the player wants, you should be able to take reaction time away to build on other stats of your character. But in the end right now all the combos they do are the same right now. So movement and actual differences between races besides just stats
>>333137472
Goku is gonna get wrecked by Hit so we can see Monaka fight or Monaka won't get used and Beerus will mock Champa with a "Haha I didn't even use my strongest fighter"
>>333137302
Also it's fair to notice that Beerus himself says that gods don't "wish" for things, they only do things that might be fun.
So him wishing for the universe to disappear may or may not happen, but if he really wanted he could just destroy it by himself quite easily.
>>333137334
I admit I haven't watched more than 3 episodes of Super
How did those even come to exist? who would have the power to create them? if someone created them then shouldn't that person be stronger that Whis and Bills?
>>333115035
I can't wait for the plot arc where everyone learns goku has thousands of years left alive because of Old Kai giving him his life
>>333137595
If Goku can figure out Hits technique before he steps in I can see him winning, and then Monaka is revealed to just be a joke character at the end.
>>333137646
They're so powerful that all 7 exist between two universes. Champa snuck into Universe 7 to steal their ones so he could have the full set. I have NO idea who created them.
>>333137706
>Monaka needs to be a joke character guise!!! there can't be anyone stronger than muh goku!!!!!
Fuck off.
The oracle fish is Monaka.
>>333121425
> how bad DBZ itself looked most of the time
Except it didn't.
As someone who just got done watching DB (For the first time) and rewatching DBZ, I'll acknowledge the quality does vary more during DBZ than it did in DB, but it's nothing compared to Super.
Super hasn't even reached episode 40 and most of it has not only bad animation, but terribly choreographed battles.
Quality in DBZ varied a fair bit but to imply that most of the time it looked bad is just straight up wrong.
There were a bunch of episodes with weak animation, sure, but none of the fights were ever that bad; no where near it.
The biggest issue with DBZ from a visual standpoint is the art style changing dramatically between episodes, but most of them still look alright and while certain artists were definitely worse with animation than others, it was never as consistently bad as in Super.
That's not to say all of Super looks like shit - it doesn't. But the episodes that do look quite good are usually the ones with none or little fighting - and even the ones that do look okay or serviceable, the weak choreography is the biggest issue.Which is probably why I prefer the fights in dragonball to most of zs, because there seems to be a bigger emphasis on choreography and fights pulling out new techniques versus power levels and beamfu.
>>333113151
Less retarded character customization
Like outfit slots that let you look however but without changing stats.
More body types, more race types, less horrible attempts at race "balance".
>>333117156
Adult Gotenks.
>>333119579
I have no idea. I'm still waiting for this. Is it even going to happen or did they just stop? Last time I looked it up I could only find out-of-date information and no one knew for sure when or if it would release.
Sucks cause I never made it fully through the Buu Saga cause I thought it was way too drawn out. Kai would be the perfect thing to happen to it so I could finally finish DBZ.
>>333137898
Dragon Ball does look much better than Dragon Ball Z.
Dragon Ball Super looks really good in BDs, TV broadcast is just rushed because Super itself is really fucking rushed, it was made on short notice and animators didn't have time. Poor scheduling
>>333113151
Freezer dudes transformations.
Androids and Cell biodroids.
Cosmetic and stats not linked. And make everything recolorable.
FIX THE RNG SHIT
Less beam spam.
Give it a good soundtrack, not some generic gookrock shit. At the very least license the original Kikuchi OST.
If still doing a CaC story, don't make them mutes. Play around with the voices personalities, have banter.
Better game design all around. Xenoverse is a great start because they can see all the retarded shit that didn't work and avoid that for the next game.
>>333113151
More options for customization
Saiyans hair actually spikes when they transform
Other races get transformations like Super Namekian
More races such as Androids, Cat People (based off beerus) or Kai's
Carry the story through more of Dragon ball and Super.
Make it less focused on spam the same super to win.
>>333138014
Why not read the manga you gigantic faggot, the anime doesn't hold a candle to Toriyama's art, pacing and fights.
>>333137898
I agree here
I just finished rewatching DB a couple of weeks ago and I'm in the middle of the Frieza saga and so far the quality has been good overall. some dips here and there but nothing too bad
I remember the quality dips starting being more noticeable during the Cell and Buu sagas tho
>>333138125
It's a different medium entirely. I don't enjoy reading manga. Even if it is better, I'd have to read through every single volume because I'm sure that the manga and show are different enough to not just pick up one from another.
>>333137807
Beerus is hiding something with Monaka, Goku punched him and he started crying, and Beerus was super jumpy about Goku wanting Monaka to go before him, and I believe Whis asked Beerus how long he was going to keep up the act with Beerus telling him to shut up.
Chances are Monaka won a bet against Beerus or something and has to tote him as the strongest in the universe(below the gods of course).
>>333138524
The thing is, Goku's punch only dented Monakas face and didn't do much else. I feel like that punch would send anyone else flying.
>>333113151
Why does everyone try the "throw-a-barrage-of-tiny-energy-balls" move when it's never ever worked
>>333138524
Whis also said that Monaka's race is really peaceful but they get super strong when enraged.
And there's a thing called misleading, Toriyama has done it several times.
>>333138880
>Whis also said that Monaka's race is really peaceful but they get super strong when enraged.
When was this?
>>333113926
We don't know how strong Cabba is aside from the fact that he IS one of the strongest beings from his universe.
Honestly you can't take shit for granted when you have winnie the poo and nipples nigger lips as the strongest in the universe too
>>333118685
>Goku + Broly
>not called Broku
>>333118685
>Videl+Pan
>You will never fuck your wife-daughter
and neither will gohan since he's a gay fuccboi
>>333138985
Well Winnie the Pooh's status as one of the strongst seemed mostly tied to his sheer defense. Nothing apparently can harm him, even Goku going ham on him.
>>333138985
>We don't know how strong Cabba is aside from the fact that he IS one of the strongest beings from his universe.
He is on par with Vegeta on base mode, Vegeta is(now) stronger than base mode Goku when he fought Frieza in RoF, Frieza's first form was already beyond every other fighter and they said he was just too fucking strong.
SSJ Cabe could probably pick a fight with Vegeta but since it was his first time transforming and all that he's weaker.
SSJ Cabe should be somewhere near SSJG Goku when he fought Beerus, well not the god but the SSJ after absorbing god ki which had the same powerlevel.
>>333139239
So why isn't Vegeta going super cyan
shouldn't that be something you do normally all the time now
>remember when dbz was all about the quality animation
Make the game less like a really shit fighting game and more like a really good action adventure RPG.
I'm thinking like those Legacy of Goku games in terms of exploration and scope, but 3D.
Basically an action (or fuck, make it n MMO) version of Dragon Ball Online
>>333116224
>I apologize for the Faulconshit
Are you implying that there's something wrong with Faulconer's soundtrack?
I'm not that into animu stuff, what exactly is jobbing?
>>333139440
Basically being on the butt end of a one-sided fight
>>333139375
yeah and when goku 1st turned super looked so good then the next ep he looks like ass
>>333139440
Jobbing is what Yamcha does for a living
>>333117156
Chi Chi + any Saiyan
The power of anger alone would instantly make the fusion like, SSJ2.
>>333139440
When a "powerful" character loses to a new character to in attempt to make the audience understand that the new character is strong.
>>333138931
>Their true power is such that once they bear their fangs even Beerus-sama would have a difficult time trying to corral them
>They expect me to believe Krillin could score a girl like 18
This is some bullshit
>>333139440
Jobbing is when a character just gets stomped out completely. Usually, that's their job, to just get completely destroyed.
>>333139667
That's a KIND of jobbing, but it doesn't always have to be a strong guy. What you're describing is the Worf Effect.
But weaklings can job just as hard. Just look at 90% of shonen lackies.
get in here
http://nes.sne.jp
>>333139671
>Goku getting pertubed that his son isn't going to his tournament
Gohan needs to get his priorities straight.
anyone else fap to this ep? Also 18 being absorbed by Cell.
