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How many years until it's okay to openly like Fallout 3-4
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How many years until it's okay to openly like Fallout 3-4 openly on /v/?
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I think now it's ok, survival mode is making the game more "fallouty" (and also more "dark-soulsy")
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>>333082021
Nice creation, shamed it's filled with lifeless NPCs that do nothing
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>>333082021
People are just mad that it didn't play like Fallout 2, and thus pissed off all twelve people who bought that game before Fallout actually became popular.

Basically the same scenario as with Fallout 3.
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NEVER
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>>333082428

thanks anon
I'm turning the commonwealth into a nation state
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>>333082021
Don't worry, anon. Reddit is going to take over this imageboard soon enough.
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>>333082485
Explain why people like new vegas then
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I actually had a blast with Fallout 4 for about the first 20 hours, then I got bored with the quests. Put in about 30 hours and haven't played since, overall wouldn't consider it a bad experience. If survival mode isn't bad I might start putting some more time in.
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>>333083605
This, there's several that's already reddit in everything but name only, it's just a matter of time before /v/ turns into reddit as well.
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>>333082021
>and also more "dark-soulsy"
said someone who has never played Dark Souls
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>>333082021
You know what, I'm at least vaguely fine with you liking 3.
And sure, even parts of 4 are fine, but liking it?
What the fuck did you like about it?

The randomly generated quests with two things changes?
Four dialogue options of the same shit?
Zero roleplay?
Voiced protagonist?
Awful weapon designs?
Absolutely awful characters?
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>>333082021
When Bethesda finally release the GECK and an avalanche of porn/sexy mods gets released.
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>>333082173
I actually enjoy the survival mechanics. Especially playing melee or sniper.
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When fallout 5 comes out
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>>333084748

Are you really that mad that someone liked someone you didn't? I liked building things, I liked the vertibird combat, building mortars in Taffington Boathouse and then using them to shell Covenant, I liked strapping a Jetpack onto my tesla armor and then jumping up onto those collapsed overpasses, it really makes the map so much more interesting

And putting on survival and fighting Mythic Deathclaws in the Glowing Sea on survival with nothing but a combat rifle and my customized Protectron Buddy with explosive Minigun attachment rounds and popping Rad-X and Goggles on when I ran out of cores for my power armor
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You're going to see a lot of "comfy" threads about them in about 5-6 years.
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>>333083919
It's more of a sequel to the first two. 3 and 4 were the weirdos who took the games to the east coast.
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>>333084348
can't tell if falseflagging
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Never.
Look at that fucking autistic shit.
If you want to build some gay little base do it in fucking rust or minecraft or the thousands of other games made to cater to autistic children.
I don't want to build a fucking settlement. I want to explore. It's just pointless content that was developed at the expense of making an interesting game.
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Fallout 4 disappointment of the decade?
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>>333085340

So if other people like something you don't, they're autistic?

wew lad
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>>333085183
>Are you really that mad that someone liked someone you didn't?
When you talk about it in public like it was actually good, yes.

I don't know how you enjoyed building things for NPCs that do shit, or building things in general when it's just all patchwork garbage.
What fucking vertibird combat, you mean sitting in the vertibird with a gatling gun? Or the garbage NPC vertibirds that crash into everything?

Power armor was one of the only OK things.

Not sure about that DLC stuff, but I'm just sad you paid for it, considering lots of mods will surpass it, but that's your money whatever.
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>>333085459
No, if people buy a game with a huge world to explore, dungeons to delve into and loot to find, then proceed to spend 10 hours building a stupid fucking tower in sanctuary, they are fucking autistic.
You cannot deny that building games, even non-game activities that involve building like lego, or even the entire architectural profession, are FULL OF FUCKING AUTISTS.
kys my man
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When the mods make it good.
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>>333085494

I haven't once said Fallout 4 was good. You're putting words in my mouth to push an agenda, guys.

I enjoyed it. If it's wrong to enjoy things and have independent tastes for your own reasons, maybe /v/ isn't the place for me.
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>>333085494
The power armor was fucking retarded and so are you. The one redeemable feature of FO4 is the map design. And even then there's so much LOL SKELETONS ENVIRONMENTAL STORYTELLING GUIZE.
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>>333085719
>I enjoyed shit
Whatever man, whatever
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>>333085634
>kys
when will this meme expire
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>>333085719
So you're saying you enjoy bad things?
That's funny, whenever I mention I like shitty games like bullet witch I get ripped on by cunts like you, but since this is POPULAR shit then it's ok to like it?
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>>333085779
>hurr durr you cant enjoy things i dont
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>>333085808
Telling people to kill themselves?
Right when you do it.
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>>333082021
By the time the sun's died, and everyone moved on. Even then, my rage and hatred will be unquenchable, eternal. Wilting.


Fuck Fallout 4, fuck it completely, and utterly.

>shit engine
>shit story
>shat on lore
>player settlements because autism + autism is more autism
>...

Fuck, i'm too tired to even care about shitting on the game properly.

Get the fuck out shill/marketer/shit-eater and play a better, more decent game, like the Witcher 3.

/thread
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>>333085919
>i enjoyed it
>i never said it was good
therefore
>i enjoy shit.
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>>333085634

>The entire architectural profession is autistic
holy shit, this isn't even bait is it

did an architect fuck your girlfriend or something dude
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>>333082021
I liked Fallout 3, FNV and Fallout 4.
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>F3
Okay but extremely shit writing.

>NV
Definitely the best Fallout game.

>F4
Garbage of highest caliber that even gorilions mods can't save.
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>>333085989
Atleast you tried.
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>creativity is now called Autism

Why are people on this board so ignorant? Fucking shoot yourselves in the face. You don't know what Autism is.
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>>333085719
It's depressing that you like the bland mush that is Fallout 4, but it's worse that you feel the need to go on a defensive crusade to make up for your insecurity about that
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>>333086003

>It's not okay to enjoy what appeals to you
>"I don't like Pizza, if John enjoys Pizza, he's enjoying garbage."

>>333085989

OP never said Fallout 4 was even good, or recommended buying it. He was just wondering when he could ever discuss the game openly without people like you shitposting all over the place.

The hell is wrong with you? You seriously can't let other people enjoy what they want? That sounds a lot like SJW mindset.
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>>333086360
The problem is that there's too much ground to cover about why F4 is an okay exploratory adventure game on the oblivion engine, but complete and utter horseshit as an RPG, or a Fallout game.
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>>333086514
This is the post i'd post the Hiding SJW with an anon mask reaction image, but fuck you too instead.

>The hell is wrong with you
Nothing with me, everything with Fallout 4, and how it's not a fallout game at all.
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There's nothing to like in either game.
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>>333086110
Do you know any architects? Are you an architect? Didn't fucking think so.
I have a relative who is an architect and he is a full on sperg to the point where he cries if someone surprises him and is a giant fucking creep.
He's like 50 and i'm 100% sure the nigga is still a virgin. I know for a fact he has one of those $5,000 silicon fuck dolls.
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>>333085659
I'm sorry but you can't mod in quality roleplaying, dialog, story, and actual production values involved with these fields.
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>>333082021
Go to /vg/ if you want to discuss anything Fallout 4 related with no shitposters.

/v/ is filled with fedora redditors from /r/pc gaming/gaming that absolutely hate Fallout 4.
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>>333086514
>"I like eating toilet paper, people who don't are just nasty haters"
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>>333086810
You can but then you would be the enderal dev team. And then it wouldn't be fallout 4 anymore because enderal =/= skyrim.
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>>333086849
Reddit loves Fallout 4 you idiot
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>>333086514
>john enjoys pizza
>john says the pizza is bad
>i am confused as to why john is still eating it

>>333086376
Yeah that's why we always call musicians and artists and authors autistic right? Man fuck that Martin Scorcese what a fucking autist amirite?
Nope, just fucking faggots like you that think putting together some generic madmax ripoff 'fortress' for a bunch of braindead npcs to mill around in or autisming your way to a 1:1 replica of some gay spaceship from some dumb scifi nonsense is 'creative'.
Fuck yourself to death, autism boy.
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>>333086403

I'm not going on a defensive crusade. What do I need to do to prove that? Say what's already been said? Yeah the story was shit, guns were boring, hated the player voice. But I liked parts of it enough that I still play it. I can understand that it's a shitty Fallout RPG, but it's something that is genuinely fun at times.

I just wanted to talk about stuff like, what other people have built or done in the game, and the thread always devolves into "let's talk about NV instead"

It's /v/ - Video Games. Unless it was completely utterly 0/10 awful, I'm sure some people will have enjoyed a game enough to talk about it.

I'm not trying to shill for Fallout 4. I enjoyed 1-NV as well and recommend those a lot. I've been talking about those all the time, and there's nothing left I really want to say. I just want to see what other people have seen or done in FO4 on /v/, but it seems like there's a cult mentality against even doing just that.
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>>333087040

clearly you haven't been to r/Games

It's like a moderated RPG Codex
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>>333087040
No it doesn't you faggot. Have you even visited /r/PC Gaming and /r/gaming? Every Fallout thread is filled with hate comments just like /v/.
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>>333086849
Back to lebbit with you.

>/v/ is filled with ...
You got that one right, you're posting here.

>absolutely hate F4
I'm sorry, but during my ventures into lebbit, i saw only love for Fallout 4, and sometimes the off generalized bland complaining, nothing full-fledged related to hatred.

I admit, I dabbled to shat on Dontnod for Life is strange, because i know they read it.
Fuck you, seriously.
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>>333087161
I have built nothing because i am not an autist.
What have i done?
I have walked around and shot at raiders and raiders and feral ghouls that act 100% like zombies and more raiders and some raiders.
Punctuate each instance of 'raiders' with 'return to sanctuary to drop off useless unsalable loot'.
I have done the exact same quests you have because there is a very small amount of them.
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>>333087050
You sound butthurt as fuck. Haha
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>>333082021
It took 7 to 8 years for Halo 3 et al to be acceptable to talk about, so maybe soon for F3?
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>>333087390
>Haha
You sound like the type of nigga that fart in he own mouth.
Nice spiderman btw /b/ro /b/ 4 lyfe XD!
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>>333086936

>"I like [Bathroom related noun], people who don't are just nasty haters."
Is that really your argument?
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>>333087161
>I understand people don't play or like F4 because it's shit
>but i want to discuss what people've done in it, to see more shit.

Well, there are several things wrong with your post. I understand where you are coming from, but fuck if i'm discussing shitout 4 - Shitesda redux electric boogaloo with a clear mind.
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>>333087539
>Is that really your argument?
Is that really your argument? What are you contributing to this discussion?
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>>333087161
No, its just because theres nothing worth talking about. Theres no quests or content to explore and the longevity of the game is tied to its mediocre base building. We exhausted all of that within the first like 3 weeks the game launched.

You'll be able to talk about Fallout 4 when it gets actual content DLC but until then theres nothing to do but shit on how bad it is because theres really nothing memorable about it that good and tons of bad.

I can understand where you're coming from and sympathize but I personally can't think of a single reason to re-torrent the game and install it or what i could possibly do with it. I'm glad you enjoy the base building and shoot and loot but most people here didn't and thats all the game is.
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>>333087050
Why are you so bitter? I'd you get cucked by someone who plays minecraft? I don't understand what you so mad about?

>HURR FUCK AUTISTS! FUCKING RETARDS AND THEIR BUILDING GAMES! KILL YOUR SELF FAGGOT

do you see how much of a fucking loser you are? My diognosis is your the actual autist and my advice for a cure is a rope around your neck.
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>>333087539
Yes, and seems it hit home
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>download dlc for free because there's literally nothing from stopping me
>turned that robot that was your ass wiper before the big kablooey into a tank that fires missles and has a chain gun for an arm
>dick around to a few places
>bored again

i'd feel ripped off if I actually paid for the season pass
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>>333087656
FO4 discussion is literally just
>silver shroud was kinda fun
>why are the factions so retarded?
>companion quests
and that's it, because there's nothing else of note to talk about until they release the editor and someguy makes boston bounties.
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>>333087374
There is a lot of F4 hate on leddit. The hate is just limited by general leddit rules.
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>>333087639

That's not an argument. Explain how something is infallibly bad without using bathroom nouns, please. We're not in a kindergarten classroom.

Extrapolate how the characters were boring, the game wasn't fun, etc.
You can't say, "I just know for a fact it's bad, anyone can see that". There's a lot of division over what this game is. If you're going to take a stance, explain it.
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>>333087771
>Projecting
You should get back to your building blocks
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>>333087353

They are not even trying to hide that they are reddit users.
This is what I was talking about - this place is going to be another subreddit soon.
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>>333088017

>If someone occasionally browses a place to figure out if the stereotypes are true or not, they've become "ONE OF THEM...!"

what
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>>333088017
Majority of /v/ are reddit users. You have no idea new fag.
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>>333087771
Wow this post.
I'm gonna feel kinda bad if I made a developmentally disabled child cry because I insulted minecraft.
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>>333082021
Whenever you want anon.

I had some hope for this game among shitposting, just like for DA:I. While the latter turned out to be disaster, Fallout 4 was geniuely good game (and bad fallout - i know this argument is almost a meme, but it's never really accurate in case of Bethesda Fallouts), with enjoyable shooting and some nice side-activities.

The problem is, this game was kinda repetitive once you realized that besides main story missions you mostly go to location x to destroy horde of enemies y, where y is either bandits, supermutants, robots or synths. Occasionally some beasts.

Writing was a disaster, as well as sidequests (but I started playing it like 1 week after finishing TW3 DLC so I was trying to compare those two), graphics were really mediocre, but stil enjoable game.

The thing is, you literally cannot like any RPG other than Souls games and not cause any shitpost.
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>ITT: /v/ discusses how their subjective opinions are objectively right.
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>>333088017
>soon
It's over anon. Moot is a google employee. It only goes downhill.
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Maybe the reason peeps be pissed is because the dev studios that made 3 and 4 changed the game too much from what older players remember as "awesome".

It'd be like if 15 years from now some new dev made a Witcher game that was way off track from what the modern ones are. Anyone who loves them now would probably feel resentment toward it while newer gamers would love it. It seems like purely nostalgia-driven hate.

pic unrelated
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>>333087960
I'm not that person, I have no stake in this argument, I'm just calling you out for white noise posting.
Fallout 4 is a piece of garbage, there we go, no 'bathroom nouns' (lol who talks like this).
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>>333087161
I had some fun with 4 but there's absolutely nothing to discuss because all playthroughs are more or less the same and there are far fewer choices than in NV
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Everyone I know who likes Fallout 4, also likes League of Legends and Assassin's Creed
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>>333088215

No, it's because you are literally on a bigger hate crusade on Minecraft than the average person within reason. And any creation games, period. Like... Why? It's just a meme people say to dismiss Minecraft as a joke. You're taking it way too seriously.
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>This whole thread
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>>333088335
>It seems like purely nostalgia-driven hate.
How would you like it if the lore of your favorite series was shat on? Theres a reason why people like NV but hate 3 even though the gameplay is very similar.
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>>333088249
Souls threads are nothing but infinite cycles of shitposting and have been since PPTD.
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>>333088350

No, anon. Once again, explain WHY it's garbage. Can you do that? Are you capable of explaining your reasoning?
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>>333088017
>soon
its been on a huge nosedive since 2011 but its absolutely horrible now. go elsewhere, anon. i come here every few months, see all the redditors posting and shitting up the board, and make a post similar to this one to a poor soul like you who just can't leave.

just let this shithole die
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>>333085719
Fallout 4 was a fine game. It did some things better than New Vegas and other things worse. The people who talk about it like its the downfall of the gaming industry are just as autistic as the people who think it's the best game ever made.
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>>333088708
They made a couple minute changes that don't effect shit. Get over yourself.
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>>333082021
never

nv was the superior game
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How is Fallout 1 and 2? I've been meaning to play those sometime.
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>>333085989
>Fuck, i'm too tired to even care about shitting on the game properly.

I know that feel, anon.
Just let it go and play a decent Fallout game. Maybe we'll get another one soon. Maybe not.
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>WAAAH..He likes what I don't like, Fuck you faggot, My opinion are always objectively true, you are not supposed to enjoy something I don't, now embrace my shitposts until you stop liking that thing

When did /v/ became so underage? Oh wait nvm.
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3 isn't actually all that bad in hindsight. The story was awful but at least you could roleplay in it. 4 was just a shameless cashgrab and I can't understand how anybody could like it.
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>>333088335
Fallout 3 and 4 aren't just bad games compared to the earlier installments in the series, they're bad compared to every similar game around them.

Then there's New Vegas in between, which is a return to form in almost every way, and that makes your argument completely pointless
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>>333088708

You know, I keep hearing how the lore was shat on, so, so much, but I haven't seen any really hard evidence of this aside from a few typos or nitpicks that really aren't conclusively "Shitting" on anything.

>Some shitty terminal writer thought Jet was Pre-War, even Pete Hines confirmed Bethesda still considers it and all the events of 1 and 2 canon
>-some- Enclave escaping Navarro is absolutely ludicrous somehow
>The BoS even travelled as far as Chicago in Tactics, but DC is too far - and despite being chastised and excommunicated for their actions canonically, being white knights in DC was unforgivable
>When they return to their roots as tech hoarders, it's still somehow lore breaking because alskj;asdkj

There are some legit criticisms like all the abundances of loot around the place, and the Super Mutants always HAPPENING to have FEV facilities nearby in Bethesda games, but seriously. Where was it "Shat" on.
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>>333089324
Cryogenics for one. Pretty sure that was never possible even in the Fallout universe.
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>>333089324
I play the series for the great writing, and 3 and 4 have the opposite of that.
The lore problems is just one easy way to show that the Bethesda writers just don't care
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I love Fallout 1 and 2, but holy shit people refuse to acknowledge that those games had some serious flaws. The combat was painfully slow to start. The graphics (even for the time) were pretty bland. The games were buggy as hell. The grid only had 6 directions to go in which meant that going up or down made you ziz-zag like you were being chased by an alligator. Minmaxing was pretty standard and some builds were objectively better than others (hardened power armor and turbo plasma rifle). Fallout 2's writing was pop-culture heavy as fuck, which got really old really fast. And plenty other things I haven't mentioned.
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Wayne is a faggot
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>>333089583

writer*

Bethesda has one writer. The reason 3 and 4 sucked was because Kirkbride and Kosak left during development of 3.

>>333089528
It was in Fallout 2, an experimental cryo with Bio-Gel, which caused the occupant to melt alive. Fallout 4 used classic freezing- And every other occupant in the Vault didn't survive it.
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>>333082021
3 was alright, it was groundbreaking for the series at least.

4 was a massive letdown, boring unrealistic setting, the premise was stupid, and the settlement building was legitimately the dumbest thing in vidya in the past five years

plus, this nigger was cringelevel annoying as fuck and memeworthy
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I can see with F3, but what there's to like on Fallout 4 other than Curie?
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When is the fucking Geck coming out ffs.
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>>333089915
2 hours
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>>333089978
Don't do this.
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>>333089889
>>333089859
>>333089319
>>333089284
>>333086343

>3 is okay now

Holy shit, I remember debates about how awful 3 was going on for hours on /v/ at a time, every day. Now that the newest thing is out, you all say it was alright.

You're all going to say the same thing about FO4 when the sixth one comes out, aren't you?
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>>333089859
Why do people find 4 unrealistic? I can understand that there's probably way too many super mutants but other than that things seem to be believable
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>>333090187
>/v/ is one person
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>>333082021
>He can't openly like something if others don't circlejerk with him

You need to be 18 to browse here, Timmy
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>>333090240
Everyone is retarded.
Even the fucking geniuses making robot people.
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>>333089181

Good but still clunky, slow, and flawed. Though, fucking people like Vince D. Weller will tell you it's absolutely perfect, and actively implement those clunky mechanics into their game because "NOSTALGIA"

Just play Wasteland 2 or Baldur's Gate instead.
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>>333082021
I just wish the town making was better.
Like you know, the wall pieces actually snapping together.
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>>333090585

It's all because of the intense radiation of the heavy bombing on the East Coast.

(That's actually a pretty good explanation for the weird writing in 3 and 4)
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>>333082021
I hate you for using that pic. It's making me realize that my creative side ate a bullet years ago.

That's why I only play this shit as a slightly better RAGE 2.
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>>333090240

I think it's less than that and more of the lore was just fucking stupid and made no sense. I was typing up a huge post to this but I decided against it. The whole setting is fucked and 3 already butchered the lore but 4 fucked the corpse.

The beginning of the game really sets the stage for the entire game. A Vault Tec faggot comes and asks you some nonsense questions out of the blue, and whaddaya know, you have a place in the Vault. And how convenient, its literally in your backyard and the nukes are falling!
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>>333082021
I kinda liked Fallout 4 but I missed the 'dark feeling' of Fallout New Vegas, I don't know, it felt like FNV was made for adults and Fallout 4 was made for kids.

Fallout 4 had too much focus on shooting and killing stuff, customizing and building stuff, mindless exploring, etc. It lacked interesting the quests, npcs, places, and the dark and horror feeling of a Fallout game.
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>>333090240
Your son is missing

Better spend five years building shanty towns
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>>333091498
I agree completely, shit even Fallout 3 had that horror feeling
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I haven't looked a ton into the lore, but I never understood something about New Vegas. I get that it avoided destruction from Mr. House, but how did they stay alive from that point on? Did they just put up farms in the desert, enough to feed the entire strip? I feel like they would've died off but, again, I haven't looked into the lore.
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>>333082021

Fallout 3 is and always will be, shit. Especially as a roleplaying game. Even taken away from the series it's garbage.

Fallout 4 is even worse roleplaying, but it's not horrible. Taken as it's own game, it's alright, just don't associate it with the series.
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>>333088194
Nah, the newfags are the fuckign redditor. FUCK THEM

The only fucking subreddit i will admit to have visited is the dota2 smut one.
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>>333092338
>Fallout 3 is a bad game

When will this meme end?
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>>333092274
The New Vegas Strip that we see in NV was actually developed recently in game. In fact most of the members of the 3 families are Tribals before House offered them a chance at being in charge of a casino.
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>>333092802
when people who like good video games are dead and the only people who exist are people who like shit ones like you
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>>333082021
like 3 or 4. Younger crowd comes in, we get nostalgia threads over shit like Fallout 3, 4 and Minecraft and those are the new foundation for good game design in their minds.
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>>333092274

You could raise that arguement for anyone, really. I don't think they ever go into much detail with that. You can draw conclusions and assume they all ate shitty radioactive scavenged food for the first few years and then traded with other areas with agricultural potential or maybe some faggot vault that's never talked about that got their GECK to work to give them some mexican jumping beans.
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>>333093007
To be fair, the old minecraft music is pretty nostalgic

of a time before Notch decided to ruin the game and cater to children
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>>333086774
Did he rape your mother? Holy shit dude.
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>>333091498
>it felt like FNV was made for adults and Fallout 4 was made for kids.
because it was more or less. Bethesda's games carry an M rating but are definitely aimed at an "all ages" audience. None of their stories or character relations get too complex, and even on harder difficulties gameplay systems are simple and fairly quickly allow for a player power fantasy. Bethesda's games are "open" but they don't let you do anything wrong. You can't make a choice you would regret (especially in 4). Even with gameplay - in New Vegas certain paths will rip you a new ass where as 3 and 4 are so carefully made to make sure that you can safely fuck around in any area from the beginning of the game, because Betheada's games are aimed at people who hate putting effort into gameplay or roleplaying.
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>>333082021
As many years as it takes for Bethesda to fucking fix the game.
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>>333086774

So that explains why you're such a sperg, it's in your blood.
So out of shame, you hate on architecture thinking it somehow makes you more of a person.

It doesn't.
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I liked Fallout 3. I was like, 18 when I played it and it was fun and dumb. I just like smashing things with a hammer and hearing super mutants tard out.

I don't care.
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>>333082021
When we get the creation kit and have proper mods.
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Good god I can't get over how fucking bad the graphics are.
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I recently found out that there was actually a Synth Quest in Fallout 3 involving the faction "RailRoad". It mentioned the Commonwealth and the Institute. I never paid attention to it while playing F3
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>>333082021
When the kids that grew with Fallout 3 and 4 take over /v/...
So literally now.
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>>333092802

Not a meme, it's a bad fucking game.

Bad combat, bad RPG elements, garbage story, garbage wasteland, fucking everything was bad except being a base for NV to be made.

At least 4 doesn't try to be an RPG outside the tiny shit it has. At least 4 has good combat. At least 4 looks decent and not fucking green everywhere. At least the story is kinda OK.
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>>333093351
now that I think about it

how the actual fuck did Fallout 4 get an M rating? Or hell, even Skyrim. I can't think of a single thing in Skyrim that's worth an M rating and I've got like 200 hours in it total.
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>>333093710
lol
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>open thread
>pic related appears
Too perfect.
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>>333094051
retard alert
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When Fallout 5 comes out.
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>>333082021
Never, the games are shit and will always be shit. Shit engine that affected New Vegas also.
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>>333086774
> 1 relativa

Well, taking you into account, I guess that confirms that being a fucking retard faggot runs in the family.
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I hate "post-apocalyptic" settings.

they're never realistic or interesting in any way.
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>>333082021
It's ok to like Fallout 3 or 4 anon, just don't pretend they aren't the usual Bethesda shitshows.

I can commend F4 for fixing the gunplay, didn't expect that level of polish from Bethesda, honestly.
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>>333082021
>caring about the opinion of basement dwelling subhuman weebs
just like whatever you want with the sole exception of fallout 4 which is pretty shit, to be honest m8
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>>333082173
>survival mode is making the game more "fallouty" (and also more "dark-soulsy")

Kill thy self
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>New Vegas with Fallout 4's shooting mechanics and non-potatohead NPCs
>isometric Fallout 3 made by Obsidian
>alternative universe where Black Isle finishes Van Buren
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>>333095175
yes to 1 and 3

F3 being isometric wouldn't salvage it.
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>>333093630
Well desu i was making that up i don't know any fucking architects lol. How the fuck would i? Those spergs are all trapped in their rooms reading the fountainhead.
>So out of shame, you hate on architecture thinking it somehow makes you more of a person.
lol when did i hate on architecture i hated on architects who are deserving of ridicule since they're all full-on way past chris chan autismos.
omg don't tell me you think the spergy little towns you build in fallout 4 are architecture
>>333094613
lol found another retard studying architecture
your job is useless
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>>333095323
Well, I didn't mean a remake of Bethesda's shitty lines and children-only colonies hidden away next to GECK-equipped vaults in an isometric gameplay style, I meant an original, proper Fallout 3.
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>>333086774
let's ask the new guy
do you support architects?
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>>333082021
Wait until the heat death of the universe, faggot casual.
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>>333086774

I work with Army "architects." They're more autistic the the IT department so I think you're onto something.
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>>333082485
>12 people bought Fallout 2 before fallout 3 made it popular
Fallout 1 and 2 were some of the most influential, well-known games of their time faggot
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>>333092802

F3 is a fine game, but it feels like a fine game with classic Fallout motifs sloppily thrown on it.
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>>333098296
He wasn't even alive then, don't worry about it. Children say dumb shit literally all the time. Eventually, they grow up and either stay a stupid piece of shit or realize just how dumb they used to be.
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>>333098727
You're right anon, you're right. Thanks for the perspective. I'm gonna go play some video games.
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>>333098296
They're shit and anyone who praises them is wearing nostalgia glasses.
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Never
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>>333082021

I guess its fine to like Fallout 4 right now, at least until Obsidian comes on by and makes Fallout: New Texas.
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>>333082021
OP, why are you looking for a common opinion to yours in this place? Just enjoy the game man.
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>>333090187
Fo4 was so bad that it made fo3 look okay in comparison
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>>333085183
>Are you really that mad that someone liked someone you didn't?

New franchise? Have at it friend.

This wasn't though. There is a theoretical Fallout game that actually properly lived up to the title and because Bethesda owns the rights to the franchise this got put out in its stead. This game isn't its own thing and it doesn't get the free passes a new IP would.

This game is a leech that comes at the cost of never having a proper sequel to my all time favorite RPG.

So it does get held to higher standards and I am more than a little ass-perturbed by people accepting it. Yes.
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>There will NEVER EVER be New Vegas 2 or any Fallout game from Obsidian
>Fallout 5 will be a thing by Bethesda
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>>333082173
It's making me fucking rage. Am I doing something wrong? I started a new game and I can't fucking find a second bed and I'm too scared to travel far that I've already traveled because then I'll die or something and lose over an hour worth of shit. What the fuck man I thought this was supposed to be fun. What am I doing wrong.
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>>333089635
I'll give you most of those but
>Combat
>Slow
Just turn the speed up in options.
Even those lazy bums in the Den move at the speed of light then
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>>333099751

Fine then anon. If I ever get Cancer, my dying wish will be that you guys get the proper RPG Fallout sequel you wanted. I'll make sure it gets full media coverage for the extra guilt trip on Bethesda. That's the best I can do.
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>>333082021
Never if you have any taste
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>>333099936
But Anon, that just makes it more fun!
It means that companions and Vertibird travel is more important.
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>>333093798
Except 4 doesn't have good combat, it looks like shit and the story is retarded.
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>>333099840
A man can dream
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>>333086110

Civil Engineer here. Architects are cute little idiots.
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>>333082021
>openly like Fallout 3
Never.

Fallout 3 was about as Oblivion with Guns as it gets, and this is coming from somebody who has played all of the Elder Scrolls and original Fallouts before it. Fallout 3 was disgustingly lazy and creatively bankrupt. Doing post-apocalyptic 1950's DnD shouldn't be impossible. So glad I passed on FO4.
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Fallout 4 was good. But it felt like Skyrim.
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Fallout 4 is exactly like 3 but better, which doesn't make it good, but still it's fun.
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Loved 1,2,tactics, BoS, 3, and 4. Semi love for NV though, i dealt with the transition between 2 and 3, then nv i trying to bring back some continuation on 2 but couldn't pull a full van buren.

Ive dealt with it, i love 4 as much as i love 1, 2, tactics 3 and even NV.
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>>333103376
Your existence baffles and enrages me. Die.
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>>333082021
NEVER

fallout 4 sucks ROFLMAO
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>>333103884
It appears you can't deal with it, go do a infinite loop of 360 turns for a year.
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>>333093821
They have drugs, blood, and references to sex.
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>>333093821
Molag Bal is the daedric prince of rape. Is that still directly mentioned in these shitty games or has it all been neutered?

Whatever the case is, every vampire lord you encounter was part of a bloody rape ritual to convert them. It's what makes them special.
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The only posters that like things are shills
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>>333093821
Are you being retarded on purpose?

You better not be
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>>333082021

>until it's okay

The real question is why you give a shit whether or not people on an anonymous Indonesian melon carving board like your opinions.
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>>333105416
Very true, i like 1,2,tactics, 3, nv(semi), and ultimately 4.
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>>333105864
SHILL
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>>333082021

It's fine to like it. Just don't be oblivious to its faults.

What really cheeses my balls is the recent season pass price hike. They had a guaranteed sale from me, and then they pulled that shit.

Release an empty game, and then pull this kind of bullshit. Fuck them. I'll buy the DLC for pennies in three years or pirate it.
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>>333105972
>Update
Oh also BoS. I bought the game and played it on my friend's ps2. Best times co-op.
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Why is it acceptable to like 3, it was fucking garbage, 4 is a better fps at least.
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>>333106985
>acceptable

What are you, some kind of faggot who seeks to validate his preference in games he plays?
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>>333082173
>(and also more "dark-soulsy")

cringed hard holy shit
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>>333082173
Dark souls-y

Damn that's some top-quality bait
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nothing about the 90's/mid/early 00's remains here. I don't care if the games are considered good or not, they fall within this current era, it's probably only good by the standards of this era. (aka, it must be shit)

I watched it on youtube, that's probably all I need.
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I don't know OP. But it'll still be shit and you'll still be liking shit.
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Did they fix the bug that let you duplicate building materials, and the one that lets you build in a settlement indefinitely by sending stuff to your workbench?

PS4 version btw.
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>>333084348
>no filename threads without Reddit

Those have been a board staple in the 9 years I've been here

I've been here way too long someone kill me
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>>333082021
I'd say 7 years, because all the 16 year old shitposters that make up the majority of /v/'s userbase will be in their 20s, the 25-29 year old posters who have been here for a decade will have left, and a new, even more casual and cancerous generation of faggots will have arrived on /v/.
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>>333108770
>been on 4chan since 2006
>mfw the state current of 4chan
>4chan was never really good
>it was at least better than it is now

Fallout 4 will never be accepted. 3 was shit, Oblivion was shit, Skyrim was shit, Fallout 4 was shit, everything Bethesda has made and ever will make past Morrowind will be shit. Not even Obsidian making a sequel to New Vegas on the Fallout 4 system could be good since they neutered so many fucking mechanics from SPECIAL and the actual dialog system. I never thought there would be a worse Fallout game than BOS but somehow I keep getting surprised. God let it all end.
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>>333108982
>Tfw there's a chance the pendulum will swing back the other direction after a breaking point before then.

It's the only hope I cling to at night.
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>>333086774
>HATE ARCHITECTS
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>>333082021
when the kids who are 12-16 now are the majority of posters, so say 2-3 years

you'll never be able to post it without being told by at least someone that you're a shit eating casual though
>>333082173
kill yourself
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>>333094051
More like
>thoughts on _____?
>anon 1 - don't like it
>anon 2 - previous game was better
>anon 3 - it's shit
and you
>hurr durr you just can't stand that people like things you don't

People always accuse others of being upset over others liking things they don't like but to me such an accusation is more of a, stop hating things I like, just projection.
How is people not liking a game and telling you why, an attempt of trying to stop you of liking something? It's nonsense, unless you are spineless, easily swayed and incapable of holding an opinion that is not the overwhelming consensus.
I wish people would stop this nonsensical accusation.
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>>333086557
I wanna hear what you have to say.
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>>333088295
>look at how above it all I am by posting about how I'm not approving of this thread
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>>333111861
Ain't it cute when they finally start high school and learn all about subjectivity? It's away to the forums they go with this untapped font of knowledge they've stumbled onto!

No fucking shit we're discussing a subjective matter. No fucking shit some people here are even going to word things strongly and it's going to come across as their passing what they feel off as fact. It goes with the spirit of these boards to give into hyperbole so hard.

None of that negates the very real and valid issues that have been brought up. Fallout 4 has objectively removed elements that were inherent with the IP whose skin it wears. It is perfectly fine for people to dislike this.
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>>333092274
The Mojave has more than half a dozen vaults, people coming in from all directions. Mr. House went offline and only took control shortly before the NCR showed up. He was able to negotiate the NCR staying in the city to fight the Legion, and as a result the NCR builds farms for their occupation.
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why does coastal cottage even exist? there is so much useless shit piled everywhere that you cant dispose of, its absurd
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The older Fallout 3 and 4 get, the worse the public opinion of them will be. The games live on hype and with hype dying down, they are nothing.
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>>333113431
Oblivion babbies and their fucking comfy threads disprove this. Massive hype sells shit to kids. Kids grow up and remember their shit fondly.

I still love Transformers and that show was absolute garbage. My garbage. Comfy as shit garbage.
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>>333113585
Then why is New Vegas becoming more popular and Fallout 3 gets shit on more? Wouldn't logic say that Fallout 3 should be a golden idol?
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>>333113727
It has a comparatively niche following compared to Oblivion.

NV does have a unique position in this issue given that it is a sister game to Fo3. It got to share in the hype. Maybe quality will win out between the two but I doubt it.

People here fucking post Moira's quest as a fucking counter to claims of NV quest quality man. It's what, four stages with red, blue and green options at each iteration that do nothing to change the quests's progress but by God it looks complex on paper so it gets shitposted every time NV is being discussed.
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>>333113585
>Oblivion babbies and their fucking comfy threads disprove this
well thats because Oblivion is a great game for questing and appreciating the character and intricate designs of the cities and towns

Fallout 3 and 4 dont have any design or content to fawn over.
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>>333116321
>intricate designs of the cities and towns

This here is what I mean. These kids believe this shit. They grew up on it. Oblivion fucking raised them like Andy Griffith and I love Lucy fucking raised baby boomers.

Look, I really do appreciate Bethesda's talent for visual world design. It's one thing they do right all the time. But right now you are absolutely letting the comforts and emotions of your past project onto Oblivion while simultaneously letting cynicism shade your view of another game.

Fo4 is a fucking shitty ass RPG and an abomination for what it does under the banner of the Fallout legacy. But it does some impressive shit through all of its foibles with visual storytelling. Oblivion may have Leyawiin which looks pretty fucking great when you mod in Open Cities but nearly every other town is a simple Y branching main street with two cul de sacs and simple fucking boxes lining either side for homes. They're cookie cutter as shit and the original game couldn't even let us experience them as a contiguous part of the game world. Fo4 only has two proper settlements but the attention to detail is there in droves. And past that I really would recommend a stealth archer run in Fo4 because the NPC banter is actually pretty great. There are nice things to be experienced in both games.

Both are shit and both have qualities that will endear themselves to the kids who inevitably play them and don't know better. As they grow they will forgive their faults with the good will they feel the games have "earned" by the parts they liked.

10 years time we will have threads about how infinite quests were a great idea and old fags just couldn't adapt to a better form of content.

We already have fucks who shamelessly believe that Fallout is better off not being a story driven RPG when that was what MADE the franchise.
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