ZTD thread.
Which system will you be playing it on?
What reveal/plot point are you most looking forward to?
3DS
I'm interested in Brother
3DS
>Brother`s identity
>why Akane had those Free the Soul garments in the "End or Beggining" ending
>meaning of "3 people alive, 6 million dead" message
>>333069439
PC
Why Junpei has gone full edgelord
>>333070154
Or was it "6 billion"?
PC because high res + free
Friendly reminder that the guy who says "H-hold up a sec" in the trailer is Carlos
It fits his personality and it would mean that all character's voices have been shown on the trailer
Vita
who the hell ??? is
I don't want to believe the "Blick Winkel" theoryI want to believe the K in the zero suit theory
>>333070481
Embrace the truth, ??? is player`s perspective.
Vita
I want to see Carlos break down
>>333070707
nah, i don't see it coming off as "organic"sick trips tho
>What reveal/plot point are you most looking forward to?
I'm waiting to QUICK REPLY FUCKING WORKING AGAIN IN FIREFOX and a cliffhanger ending so we can have another game.
>>333070481
>I don't want to believe the "Blick Winkel" theory
It's not a theory Uchi confirmed it on twitter.
There's one thing I'm concerned about.
>That empty black space at the bottom.
VLR had a giant play button on the bottom screen, but this time it's just black, and the play button is in the bottom right. Are they going to try to pull another 999 twist or something?
>>333071335
show me
>>333071783
>>333071480
That's not a play button, that's a fast forward button.
>>333071783
I don't care if you're too lazy and/or dumb to check twitter. Go ahead and be in denial and refuse to look it up.
>>333071910
Yeah, I realized that as soon as I posted it. But my question still stands: Why is it just an empty black space?
>>333071783
>>333071903
>>333071936
Look at that, someone spoonfed you for me. There you go. You can deny it all you want, it's true.
>>333071903
This kind of kills the hype. Even before ZTD was announced the Winkel theory was already floating around in these threads. I hope I forget everything unnecessary before I buy this.
>>333071480
where did this image come from?
>>333072025
Probably just cutscene where player doesn`t have to click at that play button.
>>333072210
From here: http://nintendo-difference.com/news34269-nouvelles-images-de-zero-time-dilemma-versions-3ds-et-ps-vita.htm
They compare the 3DS and Vita versions. Vita looks so much nicer, but I'm wondering what the black bottom screen is all about, or if it means anything.
3DS. I might get it for PC eventually but I already pre-ordered and I'm sure as hell not waiting and missing out on that sweet watch.
>All-Ice
If 999 was going to be a completed game, and wasn't made part of a trilogy until later, what the fuck was up with All-Ice? Every single other thing mentioned in 999 was plot-critical, even if it didn't seem like it was at the time. Except for All-Ice and those chemicals in factories suddenly altering. But let's say she just showed up at the end as a sort of "it's up to you" open ending. Bringing it up in VLR again is all well and good for VLR too - they might have just brought it up again to trick the player into thinking Alice was All-Ice for fun as one of the many revelations in the game.
Except they explained everything all over again as if the player had no knowledge of what All-Ice was, which contradicts the idea that the player was meant to think Alice was All-Ice. That makes me think that All-Ice is plot-relevant and that it might have been explained again so thatSigma had the knowledge for something at the Mars Test Site or for the creation of the Nonary Game later on.Dunno. It just sticks out like a sore thumb.
>>333072210
Final build was leaked, Anon. Phi is brother and she tries to kill Sigma in the end but fails and Akane distorts in time and space and oozes cum while shitting right on my chest (3ds exclusive feature, you need to turn inner camera on).
>>333070154
>>333070265
That's not a mystery at all if we're thinking of the same thing.Radical-6 got out from the Mars Test Site. 6 people were killed by the lady that was speaking (leaving 3, since there are 9 people in all), and 6 billion more (aka all of Earth) were to be killed soon after due to Radical-6.
>>333071480
That or it's for performance reasons.
>>333072025
I'm guessing at the climax when Blick Winkel appears, his words will start to appear on the bottom screen during the cinematic
Importing the vita version.
Who the 6 people who die in Diana's message are. We know that Sigma, Phi, Junpei, Akane and Diana live, so that leaves the 4 other players, Zero and another. It better not be the dog.
What do you guys think Blick Winkel will be called in this game?
>>333073000
Wink Blinkel.
>>333072705
Yeah, it`s apparent that R-6 outbroke at that test site, but I mean, there must be more to it, right?
>>333073000
???
>>333070303
I didn't know PC was confirmed. I guess it was expected since was it Spike Chunsoft or Aksys thing as of recency as with Dangitronpaul.
Getting it on Vita. Maybe pirate PC version down the line. Gotta watch out for the spike chunsoft publishing label.
>>333073162
There's going to be a whole game about it so maybe.
Who is waiting for Root Double steam release?
>>333073872
>Sekai Project
>>333074468
I`m not that familiar with how translator groups work and what each other`s pros and cons are. Can you briefly tell me what is wrong with SP?
>>333074468
But the translation is being run by lemnisca isn't it? Sekai Project is just providing the funding.
>>333073000
Gab.Nice trips
I was gonna go Vita since I wanted to get S;G 0 too but the S;G 0 PC port news made me doubt in getting one, and the ZTD 3DS screenshots looked good.
>>333074993
Yeah translation is Lemnisca, SP only grabbed it for an official release.
I'm looking forward to the music.
Also, sorry I keep bringing this up, but would anyone like to go to the Eacape Room on opening week? I have a couple open spots.
>>333074750
They're pretty incompetent when it comes to actually delivering, I think most of their releases end up being delayed.
>>333072440
>You have to alter the composition of Radical-6 to be harmless and spread the change through the morphogenetic field
>>333075604
This one got delayed by a month. It'll be released sometime soon© in April now.
>>333075790
Clannad got delayed by about 4 months.
>Dio end
>Never team up with Dio at any point
>>333072417
FUCK
maybe I should wait for the PC version
>>333075887
>implying a timeline exists where Dio doesn't pick betray
>>333075887Joke of the century incomingHe was LEFT behind.
>>333075343
>S;G 0
Don't really mind what platform but is this a full on VN? Like Steins Gate 60 hours length, or is it just a 10-20 hour side story?
>>333072417
Why does the 3DS have a piss filter included, in addition to the one some screens have?
>>333076103
It's longer than S;G, and S;G is like 25-30 hours dude.
That feeling when the white blurpassing around the room about ~16 seconds in the trailer is Blink Winkel like it was in.Ever17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8z9yogpeUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Zg5X2Ab6U
That feeling when the game willuse QCD as an analogy to explain the mechanics of Blink Winkel passing between all 3 groups.
I'm so fucking ready.
>>333076032
There was that one timeline where him and Quack allied with Alas.
>>333076015
Have fun staying off of 4chan for the next year then.I'm already getting all 3.
>>333076590
Quk probably bitched at him
>>333076241
>S;G is like 25-30 hours dude.
I finished it on all 6 ends and never skipped any dialog and it went that long on the game timer.
>longer
I hope you're not kidding right? There's no way they can make such a larger story in a smaller time frame where this is said to occur. I can already hear the time leap machine again.
However, since Reading Steiner was confirmed to occur on everyone yeah I can see how they can extend it even more with new characters and developments.
>>333076682
>never skipped any dialog
I guess that's your problem, you're supposed to fast forward what you've already seen.
I hope you're not using the movie as confirmation for what you said.
>>333069439
>3DS
>All the morbid stuff that will potentially happen to everyone.
>>333076930
I did use the fast forward but I tried as many patterns of texting as I could from the messages Mad Scientisto received, trying to avoid guides as possible and just using the built in achievements/trophies list as a guide. Can you imagine how long it would be to not skip?
I guess it is my playstyle.
When I played VLR I would save and reload every single time line and select every single choice for every time line. Even the duplicates, as long as it was in another time line. So that when I hit skip it wouldn't stop to a halt somewhere. Its just wishful thinking in that I could change the course of events/ dialog later on.
>>333076930
Is steiner`s gate any good? Spoiled myself a bit about someone called Kurisu or something, but I don`t even know the setting and synopsis of the story.
Anyway, I`m looking forward to seeing the OPENING of ZTD. Damn did I like 999, Ever17 and VLR openings, they were fucking good.
>>333073000
Carlos, Q, Diana,Zero
>>333077740
>steiner`s gate
>>333077740
Try it for yourself, I liked it but if you completely hate weebshit characters you may hate it at first.
>>333077897
Damn I didn`t even notice, dunno why typed it this way.
>>333077904
PC version is pretty good to go with, right?
>>333078157
Yeah, I doubt you'll buy it from JAST's website so buy a console copy or something when you finish it and like it.
>>333078157
>PC version is pretty good to go with, right?
They should all be identical. Steins;Gate was an Xbox 360 title from last gen!
If you played 999 or VLR just know that its less legit science and completely drops the act somewhere just for an anime-esque plot.
>>333078589
ZE was never about the science though, and the characters go on huge info dumps to justify the pseudo-science stuff too.
So what are the chances that everyone in the Test Site is infected with R-6?
If that's the case, is the "Game" slowed down by a factor of six?
I wonder how people like Uchikoshi and Nakazawa (and many more) make this kind of stories. How do they even come up with this idea and snowball it into one game with so many twists that make sence in the end? Wonderful.
>>333078820
A popular theory is that Q is patient zero
I'm glad to see that Zero Escape has gotten more popular on /v/. I think the threads during the crash_keys character reveals attracted a lot of attention.
>>333078589
But I heard something about how good physics science is implemented in SG, or was it some other VN?
>>333079136
Yeah it's decently explained and it makes sense, maybe that anon watched the anime, but it does expect you to believe some bullshit stuff.
>>333078795
What is kind of fun with ZE is that it will mention bits of science, throw in some pseudo-science, and then utilize it all as some sort of game/story mechanic. That is certainly part of the fun.
>>333079070
So, when we play as Q.. will it be slowed or, will he just be "Slow"?
>>333078820
So, was every participant in VLR`s nonary game infected with r-6? Is so, then what happened with Sigma in the Security Room. Did he have his brain process power even more decreased than factor 6?
>>333079357
S;G does that too.
>>333079528
Yes.
Oh by the way, when I replayed VLR Tenmyouji said that Radical-6claimed its first victims on the Mars Test Site, which somewhat contradicts what we've seen.
>>333079528
Yes.
And its known that R-6 has different stages.
>>333079663
>S;G does that too.
I don't doubt. I'm just pointing it out. It's fun.
>>333079083
>I think the threads during the crash_keys character reveals attracted a lot of attention.
Agreed. Seeing a new character posted every week with people going "New participant!" probably made people wonder what was up. And the fact that they were monochrome, and looked sort of like mugshots probably made it even more interesting.
>>333079357
>it will mention bits of science, throw in some pseudo-science, and then utilize it all as some sort of game/story mechanic
You pointed exactly what I really like in ZE. What other games have similar info-dumps with both scientific, real things and fiction ones? I was excited and astonished by how that Chinese Room experiment was mentioned.
>>333079663
>which somewhat contradicts what we've seen
What have we seen that contradicts that??
>>333079889
Same. It's shit that is fun to think about. In 999, Locke's Sock was the equivalent.
>>333079959
People being brutally murdered instead of dying from the disease?
Depends on how long the PC version is going to take. A few weeks? I'll just avoid /v/ until it comes out. Over a month? 3DS.
>Those endings where Quark gets some axelavir, but stays stuck in the facility
So he just watches everyone else die then lives there alone. Fun. Maybe Zero III is programmed to keep him company if that hoppens
>>333080140
Fuck, I never realized that. I'm sure there will be an explanation, but damn.
>>333080140
But my point is that we haven't seen anything yet. We only have a trailer for ZTD. We don't know how anything really goes down. Perhaps I'm dense but I don't see a contradiction.
>>333080140
As I see it, ZTD`s bad endings (when everyone is murdered, except 3 people in ZTD`s timeline) will lead to VLR`s events, so one can assume that ZTD`s participants died from shotgun or revolver or whatever and weren`t able to contain R-6, so Tenmyuouji mentioned it.
The wait for husbandos is excruciating.
>>333080796
Less than 3 months. Hang in there.
>>333080796
Seeing pictures like this makes me actually consider the possibility of that colorblind theory being real.
When the artwork's color is so different that it even affects fanart, it makes me wonder what the hell is going on.
If PC comes at the same time as 3DS, I'll get PC, otherwise 3DS.
>>333080970
Wait what do you mean?
What did you initially think the story would be about when you started VLR? Having finished 999 before, I was ready for some morphogenetic field adventures, but I didn`t think that the story would take that kind of scale.
>>333079136
>good physics
>Steins;Gate is about time travel
Anon even the game pokes fun at itself.
The game just lightly touches upon recent physics theories and creates its own version of time travel theory centered on the main character, kind of like Zero Escape.
But its more of a crash course on events rather than intertwined events as seen in Uchikoshi's games. (For example G-OLM plays a plot role and rules of robotics takes effect!)
Lets compare with Zero Escape's (999 and VLR) Morphogenetic field theory.
S;G:
>Time travel thoughts
>Physical time travel (anyone can do it)
>Alternate time line is not created when time traveling, rather current reality remolds itself to accept the change in causality, heading to the same future as before the time traveler went back in time, UNLESS a big change in the time line is created (determined by author), thus branching the time line to the nearest alternate future events route (where what happens may just be the same thing as before just with a different skin).
>Science elements explained but most are dropped. Grandfather paradox explained but no instances of it happening occurs because it drops it.
>What deternimes the future is clearly the author. Painfully obvious when you play it.
Zero Escape:
>Time travel thoughts
>No physical time travel (only those who participated in the Nonary game may end up with the capabilities)
>Time traveling leads to expanding time lines
>Morphogenetic field users become more powerful and badass
>Powerful morphogenetic field users can change the future.
>Science elements with the exeption of All Ice play a role.
>>333079340
>watched the anime
Never watched it desu. Went for the VN. Don't be mean.
>>333080925
God this summer and fall are gonna have so many good games but the next few months are bone dry.
>>333081082
People on /v/ have theorized that there's some kind of color trickery going on. Junpei suddenly has red eyes, and him and Akane's hair is now in a shade of purple.
It could just be due to the art style change, but it's different enough to where even fan art is giving them purple hair.
>>333081352
Then replay VLR and maybe 999 too if you have the time. No reason to be fuzzy on the story going into ZTD.
Well 3ds is a handheld ft babies, so I'll get it on Vita.
>>333082029
Even here babt?
>>333071314
he confirmed its the last game
>halfway through the game Junpei swaps place with his future self set in time a few moments after VLR
>junpei then secretly starts trying to get Sigma killed thinking that even if they stop the virus him and Akane will still get together
I think this might be where they're going with edgy Junpei
>>333082274
That's dumb
>>333069439
Reminder
>>333070303
>pirating a game from an underfunded series that nearly wasn't made because of poor sales
Kill yourself
>>333082504
Why did it sell poorly? Was it due to a lack of advertising or what?
>>333082504
He's baiting. Stop biting.
borrowing a Vita to play it in HD
I just finished 999 again after VLR and honestly VLR is better at everything except endings for the most part (safe ending, true ending) and the puzzles were short and piss easy in 999 while in VLR I had to use a guide for some of them and for the gold case file, also I connected more with the characters due to being voiced, and one thing, and having to replay the puzzles was a hassle good thing I was playing on a emulator with fast foward.
and 999 had more of a payoff (took down bad guy, escaped etc.) VLR's ending was basically a set up for ZTD which we wouldnt even know it would exist until last year that uchikoshi took back the no ZE3 comment. Also VLR had more plotholes than 999 had and fuck them for adding Alice as a character, might as well invented another character instead of being HURR DURR NIGGER KILL MYSELF on all endings, also Quark was useless, literally everyone was borderline useless except Dio, Phi, Luna and K
and what the fuck is up with temmiouyi? I like to think that Temmioyi is not Junpei due to the nose, height etc.
regardless I love BOTH games and I cant wait for how they wrap it up with ZTD
>Snake or Eric being brother
>Santa and Phi connection explained
I wonde rhow they'll do scientific explanations since theres no heavy reading in this title
>>333079136
YU-NO is the first VN I can think of to add time travel and parallel worlds with a scientific explanation.
There is a 20 minute detailed explanation that tries to incorporate the gameplay mechanics with the theory of time travel and parallel worlds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6bRs9IInnk&t=34m23s
And near the end of the game there is another 20 minute explanation of parallel worlds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evz8QMpHOBk&t=45m0s
>>333083356
It sold poorly in Japan. Spike Chunsoft thought it was because 999 was too violent so they turned the violence down in VLR. VLR then sold even worse. Both games did ok elsewhere in the world. Now they re focusing ZTD on markets outside of Japan. It's for the better.
>>333083356
Shit Japanese taste + publishers only caring about how well it sells in the domestic market.
>Q was exit/last puzzle for every nonary game
>This brat is called Q
Hm....
>>333083563
999 has a cast of generally good characters, while VLR has characters that are either great or terrible without a lot in between. Tenmyouji is definitely Junpei, though - Akane calls him Junpei by name at the end of the game.
>>333072417
>there are people ITT who are going to play this on 3DS
>>333085197
Why wouldn't you want the trilogy on 3DS?
>>333072417
>3DS actually has brown hair
Everything's fine.
>>333085197
>999 was only on the DS originally and one of the twists was only possible because of the two screens
>Nobody owns a Vita
>PC release won't be out until later on
Yeah, most people are.
I really wish they had stuck with VLR graphics
Or even 999
The models look so strange
>>333085563
People used to (and still do) same the same thing about VLR in relation to 999.
>>333072417
>vita
>can read the posters and other shit
>3DS
>ʸ̓̍̌́̋҉̹͕ᵒ͈̱̺̀̎̒́͞ᵘ̜̙͉̯̱̬̠̱͚̊̅̈́̎ͧ̂ ̛̟̫͖̯͙̗̓̑̆̕ᵃͨͭͫ͒҉̹̣̖̪̪̻̝̲́͞ʳ̺͔̰͖̗̬̝̽ͮ̄͝ᵉ͎̪̩͈͈ͮ̑̽̈́̀͢ ̳͖̈͐̅̒̒̈́ͨᶠ̺̹ͫ̔́ͦ̾̽ͮ͝ᵘͣͫ҉͖̘ᶜ̷̧̫̦̺̪ͨͯ͆͌͢ᵏ̜͕͓̫ͤ̄ͤͤ̿͗ᶦ̵̧̖͍̺̘̰̮͂̉͘ᶰ̻̣͎̫̟̦̫͓ͦ͗̄ᵍ͓̈͜ ͉̭̘̻̺͎̓̈́͛̓̏͌̚ᶻ̪̩͎ͭͫ͑ͦͣͯ̀͋͝ᵉ̗̫̯̫ͬ̿̎̏ʳ̥͈̜̠͕̘̿̅ͯ͊̿͂͋͟͡͡ᵒ̖͍̳͕̼ͯͤͧ̊ͫͯ͢͝
>>333085197
It's either 3DS, pay for a vita or wait for PC.
I am neither rich nor patient.
>>333085197
¡Quiero cogerme esa rana!
>>333085660
I'm sure I'll get used to them. It was just surprising to see them change art styles again.
I wonder if it was it a budgetary thing?
>>333085426
You sure it's not just the lighting? The lighting is a lot different between the two versions.
Vita
Phi is not santa, Seven shoots Junpei
>>333085660
I found that VLR was just 999 but in CG rather than 2D. It worked for me, but not sure for everyone else.
>>333083659
Should definitely try this out some time, but I hear its exceptionally long on top of with being one of the best VN ever made, worthy of a relatively recent translation.
>>333085306
I'm going to get a 3DS copy to complete my collection but I'm going to be playing it on Vita because that version won't look like shit, and if VLR was any indication, it'll be the superior version in terms of gameplay and bugs too.
>>333085534
>and one of the twists was only possible because of the two screens
Not like that matters anymore.
>Nobody owns a Vita
I'd think at least getting a cheap Vita TV would be preferable to playing it on 3DS.
VLR was one of my main reasons for getting a Vita since I wanted to have the best experience possible.
>>333085764
I don't speak Mexican.
>>333076015
To be fair I don't think it will look that good on PC, but who knows? Everything depends of the primary platform it was aimed since the beginning, because for now it seems like the 3DS version is just a downgrade version of the Vita, instead of the Vita being an upscaled version of the 3DS.
>>333085660
>>333086173
A lot of people seem to generally dislike the models in VLR. They are ok but the pre-rendered cut scenes look crappy sometimes.
On the other hand, I am liking the models in ZTD.
>>333086120
3DS
Phi is Santa, Seven fucks Junpei
>>333086549
>>333086120
>Our Guy Seven fucks and then kills Junpei
At least he finally got laid.
>>333087350
>>333069439
3DS, because it's what I've used before. I also like physical releases as opposed to PC versions.
>>333085886
999 was graphic but the Japs didn't like that.
VLR had higher budget and made the transition to 3D + VA, but in an attempt to appeal to the broader audience things got a more cartoony artstyle and people stopped explodingbut the entire Earth became a ravaged wasteland so I guess Uchikoshi got the last laugh.
So now ZTD is going all out, keeping the technical advances made for VLR but keeping the darker tone of 999 (and apparently taking it a number of steps further to the point of Uchikoshi joking about a Z-rating).
I don't think it's for budget reasons, even if it's clear they still don't have a huge budget.
Side Note: In verifying that the rating was in fact "Z" I also found out that Dio was originally supposed to rape Clover when he cuffed her up, and that originally the REDs in 999 did in fact require your fingerprints to touch the scanner for it to work. Both were changed for ratings reasons (don't think about that second one too hard).
>Vita version looks better
>3DS version will probably have some gimmick that makes it superior to the Vita version from a gameplay/story perspective
>PC will probably have the best of both worlds but I'm not going to wait for it to be released to play it
for fuck's sakeat least I got my preorder bonus I guess
>>333087998
>originally the REDs in 999 did in fact require your fingerprints to touch the scanner for it to work.
l-lewd
>>333088109
>3DS version will probably have some gimmick
Read the goddamn interviews, Uchi confirmed that it won't.
>>333088109
>3DS version will probably have some gimmick that makes it superior to the Vita version from a gameplay/story perspective
No it won't. Why does everyone keep saying this? VLR on 3DS had slightly better note taking because of the stylus, that's pretty much it.
>>333087998
>I also found out that Dio was originally supposed to rape Clover when he cuffed her up
You can bet now that Uchi has free reign he'll be raping Phi and Diana
>>333088365
Please no. Just rape Lotus 3.0, she'd probably like it!
>>333088552
Everyone's gonna git raped, because rape is what makes literature mature
>>333088259
oh ok
>>333088275
because the DS version had theAkane bottom screen thingand the 3DS version hadfading memos whenever you jumped
>>333088645
>>333088552
>>333088365
I remember some reverse rape happening in some route of Ever17.
That could happen.
>>333086173
It certainly is one of the top VNs but there are some flaws.
The VN will take most people around 50-60 hours to beat.
It is one of the most epic stories in a VN and does a good job of connecting all the dots without leaving huge plot holes.
I just really wish it wasn't an eroge game because some of the eye candy doesn't fit in certain scenarios. Also the sex scenes were cheesy as fuck with a bunch of puns thrown in but I really haven't seen a VN do sex dialogue in a non cheesy manner.
The sex scenes only make up 1 or 2 percent of the game so it's easy to ignore that.
>>333075505
I wish, anon. I live in Florida
>>333088719
>because the DS version had the Akane bottom screen thing
I know, but that one wasn't developed as a multiplat.
>3DS version had fading memos whenever you jumped
Unless I'm misunderstanding you, Vita had this too.
>>333088807
Reverse rape is hot
>>333088807
>>333088960
What is reverse rape?
>>333088807
>reverse rape
Like Reverse Cowgirl, or where one person attempts to rape and then they get parried and their dick ends up in their own asshole?
>>333088926
>Unless I'm misunderstanding you, Vita had this too.
Hm? Last I heard the fading memo thing was a 3DS memory thing, not an actual feature. It just happened to be really great.
>>333088926
you could take notes on the Vita screen? I thought that wasn't on the Vita version (or maybe nobody ever mentions it because >writing with your fingers)
>>333072417
Vita version looks way too fucking colored and disgusting.
3DS actually has shading and less poppy bright colors.
Just look at those ghastly pale Junpei hands and the color on Akane's face.
>>333087998
>I also found out that Dio was originally supposed to rape Clover when he cuffed her up
Anon, even though it isn't a far fetched assumption, it should be stated that Uchi never specifically used the word "rape"
>the REDs in 999 did in fact require your fingerprints to touch the scanner for it to work
Never heard of that one. Source? Regardless, Uchi uses this to his advantage when Junpei was corneringA_c_e.
>>333089053
it's the term people use for a woman raping a man, despite the fact that it's just rape, there's nothing reversed about it
>>333086334
>Vita VLR
>best gameplay
Lol
>but I'm going to be playing it on Vita because that version won't look like shit
Then get the PC version, faggot.
>>333089175
I don't have a source for either statements, but I read it here and nobody called him out on it so I assume it's valid.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/175993-zero-escape-zero-time-dilemma/73491756
>>333089239
That's just it? Because that just imply that only men can rape, hell, even that concept sounds like something straight from Tumblr.
You guys talking about S;G 0, is it really confirmed for localization? Can't find current info on google.
>>333089168
With the 3DS filter it looks like they are made of plastic.
>>333089291
I mean the Vita version will look better than the other option available on day one. I'm not waiting for the PC version.
How was VLR 3DS better in terms of gameplay besides having a stylus for memos? I think having a bigger touch screen is more useful.
>>333089053
>>333089089
It's just when a woman rapes a man.
>>333089532
[CONFIDENTIAL], confirmed viaD-mail from PQube's Kevin.
>>333089532
Only this on my end.
https://twitter com/5pbgamesusa/status/613420318762254336
>>333089742
>I mean the Vita version will look better than the other option available on day one. I'm not waiting for the PC version.
Oh are you one of those retards who thinks the PC version on the west won't be available day one despite the JP PC version being available day one of the JP release?
>>333089742
A majority of touchscreen heavy puzzles were handled better in 3DS, along with ones requiring you to pin an archive on the top screen for reference and stuff.
>>333083659
>>333088831
But at this point everything is pseudoscience, because even in theory we don't really know how time works, let alone the implications of time travel.
>>333089441
it obviously came from retards, but these people here are probably just too lazy to type woman on man rape or whatever
>>333089901
I don't know for sure. I haven't heard any confirmation and can't be bothered looking it up, so I'm going with what people are saying in the threads. If the PC version is available day one then I'll go with that. Doesn't change the fact that I'd take Vita over 3DS.
>>333089396
The only real source for this is in Q30 on VLR's Q&A. Many people have run with the idea that Uchi implied rape in Q30. However, rape was never specifically stated. It was only stated that it was something unethical. Whatever was originally planned is left to the reader's imagination.
Like I said, it isn't far fetched to say rape but people seem to treat that as fact.
>>333090663
Maybe he was going to slice her stomach open and pull her intestines out.
>>333089901
Last I checked it was specifically stated that the PC version would be coming out at a later date, and everyone in this thread but you has effectively confirmed that as a fact / a fair assumption. But I also haven't been following the interviews very closely because I want to go in mostly fresh.
On the other hand, you didn't post a link or anything so that leads me to believe you're also just guessing and then calling someone else a retard as if you couldn't be wrong.
>>333091176
>I'm a retard who doesn't know how publishing works
>>333090916
Who knows.
Also, just me thinking but, let's assume that rape was what it really was. Wouldn't that throw the rating of VLR past M in the US and C in Japan?
>>333091479
You're right, people totally aren't playing Dark Souls 3 in English as we speak.
>>333091630
Why do people think it has to be explicit?
>>333091630
They don't necessarily have to show it.
>>333091658
Spike Chunsoft are the publishers in Japan and that's why it got a release date already, so the PC version was already in the planning.
Aksys is still in legal contracts with Steam looking for a release date in the west.
You really think they're going to take months to release it on PC when DR1 and 2 had worldwide PC releases?
>>333091937
Spike Chunsoft probably wants to go jew mode and publish the Steam version themselves.
>>333073000
The Morphogenetic Field
>>333084730
>The key to the exit/last puzzle is inside his body
>the trailer show him dying the most because it indicates someone will get the chance to escape in that timeline
playing on PC, buying 3DS version.
Vita version is irrelevant just like DR
I hope there are mind-bending endings like Sub in 999 or Clover in VLR where everyone is dead and you don't know what the fuck just happened.
Then I don't want early endings like K or Dio in VLR that completely spoil what seemed to be like a big mystery (who's under K's armor and what's behind the 9 door)
>>333091937
Look, either you're making an assumption or you're stating a fact. If you're stating a fact, post a link. If you're just stating what you think is going to happen, admit that. There's nothing wrong with what you're saying being an assumption because as I already stated I've been avoiding the interviews and thus don't know anything about it myself (so I can't hold that against you). But in that case I need to know that it's an assumption and not fact. Even if the assumption has like a 99% chance of coming true. Either way I won't be cancelling my 3DS pre-order because I want that watch, but it'll decide how I'll play it (3DS vs. PC).
This leg of the conversation is happening because one guy started name-calling without proof, but I'll assume you're not him because you actually attempted to write something resembling an argument.
>>333093154
>and you don't know what the fuck just happened.
I think that's going to be your main state of mind considering the 90min amnesia thing.
Isn't this a fucking huge plot hole?Akane reveals that everyone was infected with radical six and that they were experiencing the symptom of slowed brain processing the entire time and that more time has passed than they thought. If that's true than how was it that characters like sigma, phi, alice, and quark then demonstrated the same symptom if they were already experiencing that symptom?
>>333093154
>who's under K's armor
To be fair, I think the meat of the mystery is the WHY rather than the WHAT.
Sure, you know a twin/clone of Sigma is apparently under the armor, but you don't know batshit and the game just ends without anything else happening.
>>333093391
They just escalated. Their condition got worse, slowing their cognition down further.
>>333091735
I'm not saying it was or wasn't. I'm just saying it wasn't explicitly stated.
>>333093815
What I meant is that, when showing Dio raping Clover would make the game AO, making it state it and just show bleeding Clover with bruises won't.
>>333093736
When was it stated that the brain's processing speed drops to √6 of √6?
>>333093154
>My first ending was the moon
I was so fucking confused. Because of that ending I resorted to reserving one of my two memo pages for writing down bomb passwords, keys, and other assorted numbers and phrases for the remainder of the game. And because that meant they were written down for so long, I would periodically do back and have to rewrite them to undo the fading, as if I was periodically doing memory exercises. You could argue that ruined the surprise, but I think it worked out really well for me.
>>333093391
I seem to recall someone saying somewhere that the symptoms show up some time after actually getting infected. It's not like your body suddenly jumps to 100 degrees when you get a fever, after all. To use an even shittier example just because, it's kind of like when someone gets pregnant. If they don't go and check (use the ADAM) they won't know they're pregnant until they miss their period, their body starts feeling weird, or their belly starts looking like anime after eating a bunch of food.
>>333094039
It's a virus not a math law, sometimes symptoms can worsen.
>>333072417
>3DS has brown hair.
Cool.
Vita looks better overall, I guess. I've already decided I'm getting the 3DS version.
>>333089650
Anon, both versions look like they're made of plastic. Reminds me of TellTale games, really.
>>333094067
>I seem to recall someone saying somewhere that the symptoms show up some time after actually getting infected
I think I heard that as well, however it was Akane that said all of them were affected by the brain processing the entire time.
>>333094370
Just face it, it's a plot hole.
>>333081352
Read Tokyo Babel, then Root Double once it comes out
>>333069439
Getting it for vita. Fuck waiting for the pc port and potentially getting spoiled and the only game that will make me pick up my 3ds again is smt iv final.
>>333095045
>waiting
>>333095091
What? Do we have confirmation on a worldwide release for the PC version?
>>333095091
Yes anon. Waiting.
>>333094956
>Just face it, it's a plot hole.
I've provided a rational explanation for it, just face it, there's no plot hole.
>>333092231
That's pretty hardcore even for ZE standards.
>>333096001
Well, 999 did explain people's mangled brutalized blown up corpses
The whole rad6 thing doesn't make sense unless there's stages to it. If it was an oversight, it can be handwaved that way easily. And the slow down symptoms had to have started before they woke up in the rooms, otherwise the whole gravity plot twist wouldn't be possible. Not to mention the timers and stuff are set to their slow down perception.
>>333096750
It doesn't need to have stages, it's a virus, sometimes symptoms can get worse due to exhaustion or other factors.
That's also why some characters start to be suicidal earlier than others.
>>333072417
I hope this has some New 3DS improvements or something. Seems like a waste not to use that extra power.
>>333097201
That would fuck over everyone with a regular 3DS, would it not?
>been looking forward to this game for 4 years and around 2 months, #1 looked forward to game fof that time
Only 2 months 25 days to go. Wake me up then.
>>333096001
But didn't they say ZTD will be more hardcore than the previous games?
>>333097771
Depends. Some games can take advantage of the New 3DS without it being New 3DS exclusive. Look at Sm4sh.
That said, I'm doubtful Spike Chunsoft will do that.
>>333097812
Bet you wish you could be put into a cold freeze.
PV #02 when?
>>333098331
I'd do it if you wake me up at the right time.
Since this thread has more people, I want to say fuck you again to the guy that reported me for posting the HOL UP copypasta.
>>333098502
I was about to say E3 but that's like 3 weeks before release.
>>333098331
So is she gonna schroedinger's cat herself to the past by taking over All-Ice's mummy body or something
>>333098507
What happens if you wake up in a real Nonary game?
>>333098746
I don't know. I hope she overshoots.
It would be kind of cool if Clover made a cameo appearance though.
>>333071314
OH SHIT I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST ME. It started working when I updated yesterday though but I'm using dev edition
>>333075343
>S;G0 PC port
hwat the fug
>>333099782
http://steinsgate0-pc.jp/
Not much to say.
>>333089396
Holy crap, that's me. I'm not bullshitting you like some damn brat, I'm georgethecow4.
Anyway, imo it's obviously meant to be rape. What the heck else would he have done that would have gotten a hard no from the higher ups? He killed her, there's only one way to top that...plus Uchikoshi has never denied it being rape.
>>333097771
Not entirely. The game looks fine as it is. It'd just be nice to have some sort of improvements for it like Monster Hunter 4 did.
>>333099894
>imo it's obviously meant to be rape.
>What the heck else would he have done that would have gotten a hard no from the higher ups?
>He killed her, there's only one way to top that
No. That's an argument from ignorance. Dio could have gut her internal organs while she was still alive then killed her. Or if he wanted to be an asshole to the extreme, he would have let her sit there after she was gutted and waited for her bracelet to activate. That isn't out of the question considering that the higher-ups wanted VLR to be less violent. That is a particularly gruesome way to die.
>plus Uchikoshi has never denied it being rape
I've never seen anyone specifically ask Uchi if it was rape.
>>333082782
I like Clover too dude but why would Dio do something like brutally murder her and not Tenmyouji? It was something toned down that didn't make much of a difference regardless, probably rape.
>>333080970
Who would be the colorblind one though? It sure isn't me.
>>333101668
This scene always had Clover as the focus and Tenmyouji gets left out. I don't know, Dio could have sliced him up too since he does have a knife.
At the end of the day, whatever was originally supposed to happen is just speculation.
>>333101048
maybe,but what would be the point of that? we're never ever shown Dio as some crazy sadistic creep like that. Rape has the obvious benefit of sex, and since Dio's gotten in trouble with a woman before it's feasible he'd do it again.
yet nothing in the story indicates that he'd do something as pointless as that. sorry, but i don't buy it.
>>333080970
>colorblind theory
But the problem is that the colors of the profiles are not even the same as in-game, for example, Junpei's eyes are not red in the game.
3DS + Pirate
Pretty much everything to be honest, especially how Uchi will resolve the series.
I
have high hopes but at the same time I'm quite worried it wouldn't stand up to my expectation.
Although none of Uchi's works have disappointed me so far. Even punchline was ok.
>>333089114
It sure was but I just took screenshots
>>333069439
Vita.
Who the true mastermind is.
>>333089441
I've actually seen the term "reverse rape" used by SJWs to describe a man refusing to have sex with a filthy hamplanet
>>333102816
I just checked and you're right. Weird.
Although their hair is still kind of purple.
>>333102656
You misunderstand me. I'm not trying convince you that the story was intended to be him gutting Clover or what have you.
My real intention is to say Uchi left it ambiguous. If you want to believe it was rape, cool. However, we really do not know how the story was originally going to be written. I have never seen Uchi confirm anywhere that it was specifically rape and the answer to Q30 is hand-wavy at best.
>>333105140
Why are Akane's eyes so big
>>333106923
Because she can see everything.
>>333105140
>>333106923
>>333107175
I feel like a prick for saying this because I can't draw for shit but that character art is just meh.
>>333106923
No clue. Everybody's eyes seem a bit bigger.
>>333107206
I'm not crazy about them either. I wish I had some better wallpapers of this series.
>>333106923
>>333107315
Because you're supposed to find her innocent and cute and worth protecting
Tell me /v/, why would you pick the 3DS version over the Vita version?
Is it really because of the brown hair?
Is it because you think the series is meant for the 3DS since it started on the DS?
I'm not trying to start an argument here, I'm actually pretty curious.
>>333107315
>I'm not crazy about them either. I wish I had some better wallpapers of this series.
The official ZE websites have some wallpapers. Not a lot but that is something.
>>333107359
She's a shady shithead slathered in shitty shithead lies.
>>333107581
Because I won't buy a handheld for one game and the PC version will have the better visuals.
>>333107581
I'm getting all 3 because I want to.
I want the 3DS version because I want the trilogy for one system. The vita version is coming with a watch so I want that. I'll pick up the PC version when it comes out and replay the game there. I have a Steam gift card waiting for it.
>>333107773
>tfw i bought a vita just to play vlr anddanganronpa 1 and 2
And I don't regret it. I knowdanganronpahas a reputation of being a 'tumblr game' but I don't care.
>>333107647
Oh, well thank you! I like them.
>>333108079
You need to check the ZE websites anon.
The wallpapers are cool. Not amazing but they are nice.
>>333108557
That's what I was thanking you, or whoever first told me about the websites for. I've been doing that.
>>333107925
>The vita version is coming with a watch so I want that.
But I'm getting the watch too and I bought it for the 3DS.
>>333108728
I got greedy and preordered both the 3DS and Vita watch versions. I have no other reason to get the Vita version other than I am a ZE nut.
>>333108557
What does Quark have in his hat
>>333107647
Holy shit. The dog is the mastermind behind it all.
>>333109116
That's for you to find out Mr. Dio.
What's this damn brat saying?
>>333109293
IDK. You might have to choke it out of him.
