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get in here pahdna
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saved from 404
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What's mod do you guys recommend for my first playthrough? I'm going in blind
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Do we know who the best faction is yet?
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>>333066438
>first playthrough
>mods
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>>333066146
phew just needed an excuse to roll friends
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>>333066689
>playing shitty bethesda games without mods
Son, you're retarded beyond belief.
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Has anyone here watched Many a True Nerd´s You only live once run?

It´s fucking amazing
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>>333067154
>bethesda
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>>333067672
Now anon, what does some faggot have to do with New Vegas?
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>TFW Log 100+ hours into a modded game
>One day it just keeps crashing while I'm trying to load a save.
>Try to disable every mod one by one, doesn't work
>MFW I accept I'll have to start a new character all over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KEJSQYv-uM
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>>333067883
..... He completed it without ever healing, loading or dying. On hard.
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>>333067910
Save bloat is a bitch.
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>>333068067
Yeah, I've watched it. But why do you want to talk about e-celebs?
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>>333068215
Because it was fucking amazing :C

>Also "e-celeb"
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>>333067672
who gives a fuck
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I started playing this game again recently for the first time in years.

I'm playing on the xbox, and I'm actually enjoying it. The glitches and bugs just make it more entertaining for me.

I'm role-playing as an evil whiskey alcoholic, and I get into character by slamming liqour while I play.

Does anyone know how/where I can acquire some legion armour? I've been wearing the recruit armour all game, and it's shit.
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>>333068694
Probably on Legionnaires
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>>333068417
>>333068067
>.....
> :C

Please tone down your shitposting.
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>>333068694
>I'm playing on the xbox
Degenerate.
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>>333068918
I don't wanna kill any.

True to Caesar and all that.

>>333069149
Profligate.
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>>333066953
rolling tbqhmf
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>>333066953
rollin Caesar get
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>>333069320
rerollin for a non shitter tier roll
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>Mojavevile?
Make room for the better city desert dorks
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>>333069708
New Reno went to shit

Why else would people travel the distance, through hostile terrain, to Vegas?
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>>333067910
If it's the infinite loading thing, you need to go new game first and then load the save you want before the Mitchell conversation kicks in.
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>>333067154
>Calling new vegas shitty
>Implying that New Vegas was developed by bethesda
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>>333069708
New Reno was Just a bunch of Jet and prostitutes

New Vegas has.....Prostitutes and Alcohol....and the NCR....

New Reno is better, no doubt on that
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>>333066438
Enhanced Camera
Yukichigai Unofficial Patch
New Vegas Uncut
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>>333070187
Our porn is also our most lucrative market!
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>>333066953

Rolling for faggery
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> tfw there will never be an HD remaster that includes cut endgame and Legion content

Why live, bros?
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>>333069226
The hideout you get from Caesar/Vulpes will have 3 different sets of armor.
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>>333070302
I use to fap to that one called Cleaning Tribal Spears,yeah, i remember that one of the actors was the Elder of Arroyo
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>>333067154
>Being this dense
>calling anyone else retarded
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>>333068694
Nipton, or wait for those legionnaires to get killed fighting the caravan on the way to Novac.
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>>333066953
lolopip
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>>333066689
I'm the person who asked the question, I'm just looking for things that have bug fixes and things like that
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>>333072459
4gb Loader
Script Extender
Anti Crash
Stutter Remover
YUP
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rare right here
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>>333070297
>>333072610
Thanks mates
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>>333066953
rollin on last time
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Failed speech checks best speech checks
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>>333066953
boom boom
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>>333074947
Low INT speech checks are the best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyWypcG8A2U
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>>333071257
>>333071848

Sweet. I figure I could probably steal some sets from various camps.

About to get drunk and play some NV.
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>>333075424
Holy shit, I learn something new about this game all the time despite having over 1500 hours logged in it.
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>>333066438
All of Someguy's series except bounty hunters 3
For the enclave
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is anyone else scared of radroaches more than deathclaws?
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>>333077430
Nope. Just you.

Pussy
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>Want to play through New Vegas again
>Download and install some mods
>Game crashes like crazy
>Install 4GB mod
>Anti-virus goes fucking crazy
>Warning messages everywhere
>Computer starts slowing down randomly
>Oh shit oh shit oh shit
>Quickly uninstall it and scan PC
>Fallout still crashing

Well fuck...I downloaded it from Nexus Mods, anyone else have this problem?

I noticed a few people on the forums saying that the 4GB mod fucked with their Steam and computer, so now I'm all paranoid...
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>>333078139
>Install 4GB mod
I have to wonder why that was your go-to solution

What mods were they, anyway?
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cass is cute. CUTE!
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>>333078770

Honestly the only mod I care about running is NMCs Texture mod because the vanilla game looks like shit.

It crashed every 10-15 minutes and when I looked into the problem everyone said to download the 4GB patch, so I did.
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>>333078139

You're stupid as fuck m8. Wouldn't surprise me if you have 2GB of RAM of some shit
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>>333072759
noice
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>>333079006
The MNC page tells you directly you need the 4GB Loader for it

Scrub your install and start again without being a dumbdumb this time. Maybe get NVAC as well.
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>>333079194

How is he stupid?

The maker even says the mod might set off your anti-virus, and even with the 4gb mod the game still crashes like fuck.
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>>333079548

Because he thinks a 4GB LAA enabler for a video game slowed down his computer
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>>333078139
>anti-virus

mate
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>>333078139

>Using the 4GB mod from nexus

u dun fucked up boi, enjoy the virus!
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>>333078139

>4GB mod
>Downloaded from nexus

are you...are you stupid or something...?
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>>333072759
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>>333079997
Not the guy you replied to here, but what's so stupid about downloading a 4GB mod from the Nexus site? I don't dabble in mods that much.
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>>333081872

Nothing. You're getting trolled m8.
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>install texture pack
>notice the increased loadtime
>don't really notice the better textures
>notice ugly things the pack didn't retexture
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>>333083497

that's why you gotta through 500 pages on the nexus downloading retextures for every single item in the game
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>>333083883
I got that one weapon reskin pack and something for things like tables but fuck it I really don't mind the shitty graphics
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>>333083497
>what is archiveinvalidation?
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Is he the most JUST character in new vegas?
>Complains about everything no matter what you do
>Keeps preaching about kindness and inocence while he refuses to tell a woman that her husband died because she's useful
>Said preaching doesn't work because the Sorrows believe in Randall over anything
>His plan is stupid bullshit that will doom everything
>Even when you manage to make the best situation sparing Salty cunt he will still be sad
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>>333085356
>the Sorrows believe in Randall over anything
It's more that he's an idiot and a very bad preacher. He saw they had a benevolent god-figure called the Father and told them he, too, worshipped God the Father without stressing that they were two entirely separate entities
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>>333066953
Alright lets go.
I'll comment on it after I post
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>>333066953
wellp, let's ty a new build then
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>>333085356
I kind of feel bad for the guy because I've crushed his hopes all but one time for the sake of the achievement, but at the same time, the White Legs had to be dealt with. Running away from a problem doesn't make it go away, Daniel.
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>>333085356
>leave zion
>he cries when he sleep at night
>fight off caesar's ballsuckers
>ablooblobloo tribals aren't following my religion

He's a retarded person, and i wish i could've showed him the story of "the father in the cave", just to see if he would go full denial or be open minded and change his judgement about that "spirit"
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>>333066953
>>333086552
Minuteman Huh? Not sure about this but Atomic Liberace sounds fun. Maybe I'll use Energye Weapons instead of Guns.
Rex, Sure I can work with that. A Man and his dog is a Fallout Classic.
Wolfhorn Ranch, Lol I dunno where this even is. I've always just used the Lucky 38 cause all my companions would stay there.
Caesar's Legion. Damn, I hate these guys, but having Rex with a Legion Brain could be cool.
S-3
P-3
E-1
C-8
I-6
A-5
L-5
With an Extra 9 Points, I'll add 1 to each point, and 2 to Agility, Endurance, and Strength
S-5
P-4
E-3
C-9
I-7
A-7
L-6
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>>333066953

PROFILGATE ROLLING FOR A BETTER LIFE
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>>333087172
>White Legs burn down New Canaan and murder his people
>"guys, we have to run from this fight!"

How did such a gigantic pussy survive
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>>333088073
Daniel put all his points into luck.
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>cancerous rpg codex kiddies trying to make threads about their shitty mobile game developer that launched 3 broken kickstarter games
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>>333088063

Sweet, I'm a mercenary gunslinger in a cowboy hat, sellin' mah guns to the powerful man what come from the east. I got a girl named Veronica who disapproves of my activities but she don't gimme no gash so I leave her in town.
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>>333087596
wolfhorn is between nipton and novac where you find chopper. It's a literal shit shack
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>>333088480
Is this even a bait?
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>>333066953
rick
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>>333088248
Running like a bitch must have cost him 'cause he only has 5 in game

Maybe a rock will crush him in a freak "accident"
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>>333066953
its go time
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What's the most fun build, and why is it being a Cowboy?
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>>333089535
>Cowboy
>Not drug-addicted berzerker
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>>333089363
>>333085356
I don't get the hate that this guy gets. He might be a mistaken idiot but the guy believes that what he's doing is good for the Sorrows.
Ulysses though? That guy deserves to be fucked with a cactus.
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>>333089535
It is cowboy. I'm on a revolver only playthrough right now and it is fun as shit.
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>>333089535
>not weaboo katana user
FOLDED 1000 TIMES IN THE ATOMS!
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>>333089941
>that one anon that role played as a weeb who got mentally transported into a samurai's body out of one of his anime's after getting shot and treated House as his Daimyo
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>>333066953
roll'
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>tfw never rolled with raul
>always go cass/ed-e/veronica
does trejo deliver?
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>>333066953
Rollin'
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>>333090134
Miles better than Cass and Veronica, that's for damn sure.
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>>333089595

Step 1: Make Cass your companion
Step 2: Make Wasteland Tequila
Step 3: Repeat Step 2 a lot.
Step 4: Literally never stop drinking Wasteland Tequila
Step 5: Walk through hordes of enemies with a shotgun at your hip until that gets boring, and then switch to using knuckledusters.
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>>333089720
I'm a lot more willing to side with Joshua and ignore Daniel based on the simple fact that the White Legs tried to kill me when I entered the area.
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>>333065714
I was thinking about installing the mod called "true wasteland economy". Is it good?
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>>333089720
>believes that what he's doing is good for the Sorrows
And the problem is, he isn't. He's valuing their innocence above everything else and refusing to let them grow as a society.

Ulysses just became unhinged when the thing he finally found to believe in was wiped out by random chance. The reason he comes off like a jabbering mental patient is because that's what he is. Daniel should know better.
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>>333066953
Rolling again
monks suck ass
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>mfw stealth suit is waifu tier
>It's also a shit armor
Whyyy
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>>333066953
rolling for a columbine
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>>333090327
I...I liked Cass...
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>>333090645
Get mods to change it to Light armour, stop it giving you Med-X addiction and using Stimpaks that scale with your Medicine skill

And one to shut it up
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>>333088073
He survived by running
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>>333089535
Explosive/Melee/basic remedies only run was my favourite
You've got to be careful as shit with the explosives, because healing limbs is impossible without a doctor
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>>333090645
>uses a stimpak and medx every time you get hit
I-It's not like I was saving them or anything
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>doing my first explosives run at 900 hours
Holy fuck why didn't I try this before, I dickslapped Rawr in two seconds
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>>333067154
>New Vegas
>Obsidian
>Whole reason NV is so good

K-k-k-k-k-k-kill yourself
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>>333090645
Get the Stealth Suit Module mod and you can have her no matter what you wear
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>>333091739
>>333091512
How. My explosives builds were always complete fucking shit because they are underpowered as fuck. You usually miss the target, carrying them is a pain in the ass and they need too muh shit to be "decent", not good, just being relevant at all. Then there's just dumb stuff like missing a hit because you are in a ledge and the dumb AOE bug. Plus most dangerous enemies in theg ame just rush to your face, killing cazadores and deathclaws with explosives is fucking impossible.
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>>333090134
Best companion in the game. E-DE and Raul is the best cimbo and the mark of a true patriarcan
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>>333066953
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>>333091071
She's so dumb that she can't even manage to fuck you at the end. Best companios as follow
Arcade>Raul>>>Boone>>Rose>>Lily>>>Shit>>>Veronica
ED-E and Rex are equals
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>>333092293
Grenade lquncher my man. Nothing better than killing a dozen dirty fiends with a barrage of 25mm explosives.
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>>333092665
>Arcade Israel "Bad End" Ganon
>anywhere near that high
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>>333092665
Cass is better than Boone, at the very least. And fuck you, Arcade leaving was bullshit.

EDE>>>Raul>Cass>Arcade>Boone>Veronica>Lily
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ede>arcade>cass>raul>veronica>boone>lily>rex

DM>OWB>HH>LR

indy+securitrons>House>NCR>indy-securitrons>caesar>lanius

shotguns>guns>explosives>unarmed>energy>melee

enclave>boomers>kings>chairmen>brotherhood>whitegloves>omertas>khans>fiends
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>>333092665
Hell no nigga, Rex and Lily fucking suck.
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>>333092665
>2016
>judging wymyn by their willingness to fuck you

She's a cool gal that goes well with a cowboy playthrough, shitlord.
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>>333093350
>house over ncr
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>>333093557
>NCR over anything
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>>333093350
Yeah indy is easily the best ending.

>people really don't want to set up their own libertarian paradise

Too bad besthesda is shit at writing or the minutemen could have had a similar relationship with the factions of the commonwealth.

Well if the commonwealth had any interesting factions anyway.
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>>333093557
if you actually like the NCR, you should know that them taking over the Mojave is one of the worst possible outcomes for them
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>tfw love energy weapons, but don't want to kill Cass

I'm not sure where my loyalties lie on this one.
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>>333093557
>House over anything but Legion
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>>333093732
If you kill the dealers you get to loot the place.
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>>333093732
So don't complete that quest until the end of the game
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>>333093732
Just shoot the Van Graffs like a normal person.
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>>333093827
I prefer to have a steady supply of extra parts.
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>>333094095
>complete Dead Money
>you now have infinite weapon repair kits

Problem solved
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>>333093350
>Independent above House
>Not wanting the smartest person in the world alive and in charge
Fools, all of you.
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>>333093681
NCR isn't better than a thought out independent, but House is crazy old fart past his prime. I'll give you that I've at least seen good reasons for joining him.

Legion is meme-tier.

>>333093732
Shoot them all.
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>>333094235
>being this afraid to make your own decisions
>being subservient to a technocrat

Sorry pal, this is America.
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>>333094221
Not only that
>complete Dead Money
>Infinite stims and WRK
>Get best weapon in the game, unbreakable due to a bug
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>>333094221
>>333094472
Well fuck, guess it's time I played the DLC.
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>>333066953
Role
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Cass is a dumb self righteous drunk who belongs in a shallow desert grave.
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>>333093732
Install the mod that stops Van Graffs from magically knowing that you fucked them. Do Casses mission all stealthy like for RP purposes.
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>>333092293
I started by pouring points into explosives and melee (as a backup), taking a bunch of explosives from the Powder Gangers, then rushing Thump-Thump from the Boomers.
Thump-Thump is a solid weapon for most of the game, until you get others from DLC.

Most of your perks are pretty obvious, like Heave Ho and Demolition Expert. You'll also want things like Toughness, Pack Rat (for grenades), Rapid Reload (exp weapons usually only hold one at a time), Hit the Deck, Spray and Pray (if you're using companions), Heavyweight (if you're using launchers), Mad Bomber

Other perks that work with every build are Bloody Mess, Scrounger, Quickdraw
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>>333082045
You're an idiot
Just dl a LAA enabler and stop using some gay 4gb "mods"
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>>333094334
>Dooming the Mojave to chaos and anarchy because you want to be the King of ashes
Check your ego
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>>333094235
>smartest person in the world
>you do all the work for him
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>>333093732
>Implying the van graffs are necessary for a successful energy weapons playthrough.
I did a energy weapons only run and sided with house so I also had to kill the BoS. Just leave that quest for later if you want but even if you kill them you can still buy their unique weapons like the smitty special and the unique laser gatling gun from the gun runners i think. Ammo shouldn't be a problem either.
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>>333094662
>from magically knowing that you fucked them
Yeah, how would a group that's influencing the NCR government for their own ends learn that the NCR government has received evidence of their wrong doing

Magic is the only answer
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>>333094587
Make sure to find the Vending Machine Codes and break the bank at the Sierra Madre Casino so you can actually, y'know, abuse this generosity

Just finishing Dead Money doesn't hand it to you
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>>333094965
How does it know it was you who got that evidence?
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>>333094914
>Had the foresight to predict the great war
>saved vegas
>made the strip great
>saved the striper from tribals
The courier aint shit compared to house
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>>333065714
any good conversion mods? all that i can think of are project brazil and dust but both of those are pretty lackluster due to being incomplete and featuring insane amounts of artificial difficulty
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>>333095143
>leave NCR outpost with wanted caravan owner
>walk back into NCR outpost some time later
>talk to the ranking officer
>few days later the government has incriminating documents
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>>333094327
>old fart
>smarter more intelligent savvy businessman
capitalism is what runs the world suck his mummy cock
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>>333095439
Penumbra is pretty good on some parts and shitty as fuck on others, the shitty parts are very noticeable.
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>>333095554
>smarter more intelligent savvy businessman
None of this means jack shit when most people in the wasteland don't even have anything to piss into. He's stuck in the past and should realize that his little favoritism of the families on the strip isn't helping the many more people dying in the wasteland.
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>>333095337
>beat the Sierra Madre
>overlord of Big MT
>stopped a second apocalypse
>makes every faction in the mojave dead or his bitch
>survives being shot in the head
>beats 2 armies minimum
>can easily kill almost every major power player in the mojave, including house
>House is literally powerless if the Courier decides to stop being his lapdog
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>>333094914
Well yeah, you're his minion. You expect the big guy to get his hands dirty all the time? Especially since he's kind of stuck in his tube
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>>333095760
The first time I played, I didn't know House was just going to force you to give the chip back if you walked in just to talk to him.

He died an awful death.
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>>333095760
This.
The Courier is a self made man who is pretty much jesus christ reborn in New Vegas. You can fix or kill anything and you even have an arm of robots behind you to maintain peace.
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>>333095960
>deliver the item you were hired to deliver to the person who contracted its delivery
>forced
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>>333095737
got a link? don't see anything called penumbra on the nexus
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>>333096067
Yeah, plans change, and I told that to his face.

This is why couriers should ask what the flying fuck they're deliverer. Otherwise you get shot in the head.

If I got shot in the head over this damn chip and almost died, fuck you, I'm keeping it.
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Best radio station.
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>>333096128
Ah, I fucked up. Meant to say Pandemic.

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/59344/?
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>>333096067
>deliver
What about some good ol payment? I never said that it would be free. I already did more for him than anyone else, I want to have something if I'm going to be the second man.
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>>333065714
Daily reminder, that Dead money is the best dlc ever created for a game.
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>>333096219
>be a courier told to deliver something to a dangerous area
>accept the job knowing the risk
>get mad when something goes wrong
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>>333095756
>many more people dying in the wasteland
not his fucking problem to fix.
>don't have anything to piss into
they should learn a trade or a caravan or suck it up. Should House have made an effort to provide gud housing to all of the rancid dumbfucks in the wasteland? fuck no that's their problem and their's alone
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>>333096334
I actually really liked Lonesome Road.
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>>333096219
>implying it's any of your business
You take the package, drop it off, pick up your paycheck. What other people are moving is their business.

Not to mention House didn't tell anyone it was the key to Vegas, and didn't even know Benny knew. For all anyone else knew, you were just delivering a shiny casino chip
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>>333094824
>implying House gives a shit about anywhere besides his precious Strip
>had no clue about Omertas plot
>oblivious about White Glove reverting to old ways
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>>333096402
>>333096484
If the courier had actually died, Benny of all fucking people would have the chip. I busted my ass beyond the job parameters to get the chip instead of leaving it in a madman's hands. When it left my hands, the job was over.
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>>333096334
This guy gets it.

Gameplay
DM > OWB > LR >>> HH

Story
DM > OWB LR == HH

Atmosphere
DM > HH = LR > OWB

Characters
DM > HH = OWB > LR
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>>333066953
I need this
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>>333096334
>muh atmosphere
>muh silent hill
>muh let go
Yet all I saw was an annoying area with absolutely nothing going on for it beyond the annoying as shit mechanics like radios and the clouds. Because god knows that what everyone wants to do when playing fallout is doing pixel hunts for stupid radios in the corner instead of exploring the place. Not to mention that it's easy as shit since the enemies are complete pushovers.
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>New Vegas came out nearly five years ago
>still threads about the factions, builds and characters
>Fallout 4 came out almost half a year ago
>threads about it only talks about how disappointing it was and how boring the characters were
feels good famalams
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>>333096673
>Bring me this chip
>btw, it's the key to an army of unstoppable robots that control the most valuable and highly contested area in the West, and anyone who owns it can easily usurp my power with a little technical knowledge, but I'm trying to keep this a secret so don't tell anyone
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>>333096945
Ok gameplay and excellent roleplaying trump decent but repetitive gameplay and zero roleplaying
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>>333096978
Yeah, and House's downfall was just expecting everyone to play nice nice and do what he says. I now ave the key to actually making the wasteland a better place (something my character wanted).

I'm willing to overthrow House to make that happen, and as my good decisions showed, I genuinely did help the wasteland. This is a wasteland, and not everyone plays by the rules. House can't expect to be able to be underhanded but not have the same happen in return.

I was willing to negotiate; he was not.
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>>333096978
>I'm paying millions and bnding the whole earth searching for this thing
>You got shot in the head for it
>Nah mate, it's just a small chip, nothing important , just bring it over for me and I'll give you a hug :^)
Come on, even I saw that coming
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dejO6aiA7bs&spfreload=5
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>>333097297
JUST GIVE ME the chip
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>>333097320
This review is pretty brilliant. Superrabbitjump usually has good points
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>>333097297
It was all on the down low until Benny stepped in.
Even then Benny was being secretive until you survived getting shot and started fucking shit up all over the wasteland.
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>>333066953
hitler did nothing wrong
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>>333066953
thank you senpai
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>>333097320
take a sip anytime bunnyhop uses metagame in his reviews
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>>333097292
>as my good decisions showed, I genuinely did help the wasteland
Each major faction has a different idea of what that means. All going independent does is ensure that every faction outside of Vegas is going to collapse into war in a year or two.
House's deals with the NCR are cancelled, and your robots sure can't protect both Vegas and the Dam against their might, or the might of the Legion if you didn't fuck them up. Without House, you don't have his manufacturing capabilities or long term plans, or his firm grip over the families.
If House, NCR, or the Legion don't take the dam, the situation just gets worse.
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>>333098867
NCR doesn't have the resources to be throwing shit at you for at least a few years, and the Legion is fucked.

Each faction can grow to respect you and you can influence them at least a bit. Otherwise, we don't know what the fuck happens over the next years after the endings.
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>>333098867
If you aren't retarded, the securitrons under the fort will go on a murder spree and caesar is presumably dead.
Most NCR citizens and soldiers agree that they are overextending their reach, and if they decide to come back to vegas armed, their populations won't support it.
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>>333098867
>Each major faction has a different idea of what that means. All going independent does is ensure that every faction outside of Vegas is going to collapse into war in a year or two.

wrong, especially if you wipe several of them out

>House's deals with the NCR are cancelled, and your robots sure can't protect both Vegas and the Dam against their might
yes they can, it's said several times in game that the NCR couldn't go up against the Courier's Vegas without fucking themselves over. Plus, the NCR only cancells their deals with the strip if you kill Oliver and Kimball

>or the might of the Legion if you didn't fuck them up
>not always fucking the Legion up to ensure the Mojave is free from Lanius and Caesar

>Without House, you don't have his manufacturing capabilities or long term plans
says fucking who? I have the power of Big MT behind me, I can do whatever the fuck I want

>or long term plans
if by long term plans, you mean leaving Earth, that's fucking stupid anyways. Anything House wanted other than that is easily possible through the Courier

>or his firm grip over the families
also completely wrong. You literally either wipe them all out or bring them all to your heel. Plus, House didn't have even close to a firm grip over any of the families before you showed up anyways

>If House, NCR, or the Legion don't take the dam, the situation just gets worse.
also completely wrong. What's the difference between you or House taking the dam? Nothing. The only difference is a badass wasteland jesus is giving the securitrons orders instead of a mummy. Also, Legion is objectively the worst choice, and if the NCR gets the dam, they only fuck over themselves and anyone affected by them in the long run by overexerting themselves and inevitably trying to grab more territory after success in Vegas
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>>333098867
>or his firm grip over the families.
WHAT? Every damn family is running around behind the scenes doing awful shit.

This is Housefag level of delusion.
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>No Gods, No Masters
>except me, guys
None of the Independent ending slides say the Courier takes over, just that they ensured no one took control of the Mojave

It's an ending for people who didn't want to pick a side or somehow fucked up and needed a fourth option so they could finish the game

It's not an ending where your god mode OC Donut Steel becomes the Best Ruler Who Ever Lived
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Bought Fallout 4 recently, just found myself putting in another 100 hours in NV instead. Hated 4 too close to Borderlands but with less guns, less insanity and less feeling like a badass.
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>>333100757
Not to mention that there's no reason the player can't do all the same things in the Independent ending in the House ending as well.
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>>333100757
It's probably going to be the canon ending if Obsidian make another Fallout in the west. Was it Abalone who said the reason Ulysses nuked everything and the tunnellers became a thing was because it was getting too civilised?
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>>333100757
No, it's the ending where anything can happen.

>Any chaos on the streets was ended, quickly. Chaos became uncertainty, then acceptance, with minimal loss of life. New Vegas assumed its position as an independent power in the Mojave.

>the Courier was recognized as the man/woman responsible for a truly free New Vegas

This doesn't say anything besides the fact New Vegas is now independent of any faction and the Courier was recognized as the one who did it.
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no way fallout orleans
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10448257/1/Fallout-Orleans
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>>333100757
no gods no masters refers to an external power

the anarchy ending is independent without securitrons

the courier ending is independent with securitrons. Yes Man controls the securitrons and the Courier controls Yes Man. What is difficult to understand about this
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Well fucking great, FOMM can't load any fomod without crashing, the fuck?
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>>333100447
>Every damn family is running around behind the scenes doing awful shit.
Which he's aware of, and requires you to deal with them. He's even fine if you massacre these families outright he's unfazed.
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>>333102168
That's not control, or a firm grip, fucking hell.

They don't fear him or respect him, they just do whatever the fuck they want and House needs his little bitchboy to actually do anything about it.
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>>333102168
That and if you try to bug him and tell him outright you did he's just like "nice try"
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>>333078848
more?
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>>333102283
He sends the Courier in to try it diplomatically. He could easily send in a bunch of securitrons and raze their casinos if he wanted. It's just easier to get them to bow than to have to rebuild.
It's not like there isn't any shortage of people who wouldn't jump at the chance to take over a casino in Vegas, even if it meant being House's bitch
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>>333102742
House SHOULD be able to tell the families that they fucked up and to not try anything.

They don't give a flying fuck, don't fear him, and don't listen to him. They respect a literal fucking who more by the end of the quests.
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>>333102742
>He sends the Courier in to try it diplomatically
>He sends an omnipotent psycho who got up from the grave and tracked his killer across the whole Mojave in to try it diplomatically
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Post this in every thread, but Fallout: New Vegas is the only game ever to have a meaningful faction system.

> Deep lore behind each one
> Each faction has their own good and bad points
> Each faction has their own moral code
> Each faction has their own enemies
> All factions start off neutral to you and see you as just a guy
> Start off doing random merc shit for them or opportunistic work.
> Eventually get some recognition and some perks (speech abilities, people begin to talk about you)
> More important missions
> Othe faction sees you as a threat, starts considering you hostile/sending hit squads/locks you out of certain parts of the game
> Own faction gives you more perks (ability to call for troops)
> Eventually get the safe house
> Meet more important people
> Save the world with your faction, but no "You're the chosen one bullshit". Just a guy who worked their way up. At max, you were in the wrong place at the wrong time/right place at the right time for certain storylines (DLC's/House)

Top tier writing.
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Getting back into fallout, probably siding NCR, Mods?
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>>333102283
The whole point of the arrangement between House and the Families is that they are mostly independent of each other. When you ask House why he doesn't simply take the chip from Benny by using the securitrons, he says (other than Benny having leverage over the chip) that the other families would be much more cautious and unlikely to cooperate with him in the future. The Courier is a free agent who has personal business with Benny anyway, it's not hard to see why House would ask you to do this. As for the other families, House doesn't really care for what they do as long as it doesn't interfere with how he wants Vegas to be portrayed. He outlawed cannibalism for the White Gloves and for the most part they've held up their end if not for a rogue member. The same could be said for the Omertas who were planning a terrorist attack but a simple change in management is all is needed to be taken care of.

House cannot micromanage the families that work for him, not directly at least. So is it any surprise that he needs a human agent to do it for him?

>>333102910
House isn't a king, and they've never met him directly. Of course they'd respect the guy who showed up and helped them out, but that says nothing about if they'll be good business partners in the future.


>
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>>333103115
WMX, Millenia's, NCR Rearmament, ENB, you know the drill.
There's a bunch of cool mods but you'd have to wade through the whole list to find them. I remember a visor and some futuristic rifle, maybe some skin for Readius.
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>>333102910
There's no faction without someone getting uppity in it, it's the nature of people. Not to mention the people in the families respect you because each time you give them power on a platter without asking for anything in return.
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>>333066953
rollinnn
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My second play through of New Vegas was fun as hell, first play through I was a goodie two shoes energy weapon using power armor faggot.
But for my second play through I was an old alcoholic cowboy looking for cash. I screwed over everyone for the best deal and really fucked some people up.
I raped the Brotherhood to loot and sell all their shit, sold the Brotherhood follower to the cannibals and my favorite was shooting benny in the head and putting his head in the toilet as revenge.

I sided with House both Play throughs though, for the first one I thought he was the best option for everyone and for the my second I thought it would be easier to let him run everything whole he fed me money and alcohol to live in my cushy hotel room.
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>>333103461
>>333103461
Don't know if you're this person
>>333098867

but that's not a
>firm grip over the families.

That's what I was responding to. And if I can get all the families to respect/fear men and actually make New Vegas a good place, why the fuck is the guy who can't do that in charge.

>>333103580
Uh, no? At least in the White Glove's case, you actually go out of your way to maintain the integrity of the club, and they respect you because you actually had the time to come out and talk to them instead of only talking to them when it comes to money transfers.
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>>333103106
True, but this really only applies to NCR and Legion. Most other factions have one, two main quests, tops (Looking at you, Three Families).

Not saying NV doesn't have a lot of depth or variety, of course- hell, it's my favorite game- but for a lot of the factions you just run one or two missions and get to hang out in their clubhouse afterwards.
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>>333104230
He calls it a firm grip because that's explicitly spelled out in the House epilogue.
> Mr. House continued to run New Vegas his way, a despotic vision of pre-War glory. The streets were orderly, efficient, cold.
But even if it wasn't, how is his relationship with the families a weakness if he has someone like the Courier to enforce it?

>And if I can get all the families to respect/fear men and actually make New Vegas a good place, why the fuck is the guy who can't do that in charge.
Nearly all the ways you assist New Vegas is by killing people or doing favors, their personal interactions with you are hardly a good assessment of your leadership skills. When you negotiate with a neighboring settlement, are you going to go kill their raiders for them too? Or are you implying because they respect you now, they'll do so forever?

>At least in the White Glove's case, you actually go out of your way to maintain the integrity of the club
The club which was set up by Mr. House. They were cannibals to start with and mostly abandoned it because of the benefits House gave them or he was that coercive.

>At least in the White Glove's case, you actually go out of your way to maintain the integrity of the club, and they respect you because you actually had the time to come out and talk to them instead of only talking to them when it comes to money transfers.
They literally recognize you as Mr. House's guest the moment you speak to Marjorie, unless your sequence skipping.
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MOOOOOOBIUUSSSSSSSS
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>>333105921
When you have to rely on someone to enforce it, that's pretty dangerous.

A good assessment of leadership is willingness to help, diplomacy (an option in a lot of quests) and a willingness to listen.

>sequence skipping
It's not skipping? I heard about it in my first playthrough after killing House (the first thing I did) and going to the casino out of interest, and it's certainly possible to do that before even meeting Benny as well. That's not skipping. You're not working for House at that moment; you only start working for him when you meet him and give him the chip.
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>>333066953
For the NCR
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>>333090078
>those roaches
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I could play New Vegas RIGHT NOW and enjoy ot more than I did Fallout 4.
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>>333106313
>When you have to rely on someone to enforce it, that's pretty dangerous.
A player who has put House in power is loyal, since they would already have had every opportunity to dethrone him. As was stated earlier, the extra degree of separation is necessary for the families to remain loyal to House. If anything, it's more dangerous for the Families to try and undermine House while staying under the radar of both House and the Courier.

>A good assessment of leadership is willingness to help, diplomacy (an option in a lot of quests) and a willingness to listen.
And assuming you did those quests the "right" way, you're still some rando nobody in the eyes of the people you're helping, not the leader of the country. Those interactions won't be the same afterward, and the approaches to solving those problems wont be the same either.


>they respect you because you actually had the time to come out and talk to them instead of only talking to them when it comes to money transfers.
I admit I was wrong about the sequence skipping, but the White Gloves are the most elitist group in the Wasteland and only allow you to join if you're sponsored (have good strip rep). They respect you because you saved them from breaking their contract and losing a valuable business partner, not out of the kindness of their hearts.
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>>333108513
And this business doesn't require House being in charge. The Courier can at least actively stop the families from doing awful shit.
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>>333109064
What can the player do in the Independent ending that they couldn't do in the House ending?
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>>333109234
Not have a maniacal grip over New Vegas for no reason?
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>>333109234
Choose how they want to run vegas?

House is the more restrictive option
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New Vegas is a wild horse with House steering it as smoothly as possible. Independent route is you fumbling like a retard to try keep her steady.
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>>333110319
How? All he does is let the families run the Strip- that's it. The rest of New Vegas is destitute and House doesn't give a flying fuck. It's obvious there's problems in New Vegas just by talking to people.
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>>333066953
rolllllin
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>>333066953
rol
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>>333066953
raul
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What are some neat ENB, texture and armor mods? Gonna go with NCR so military armor works best.
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>>333109814
>>333110552
>Not have a maniacal grip over New Vegas for no reason?
>I never read the dialogue: the post
Pick a side guy. House is too lax on his employees and they start scheming so he's unfit but when he actually does have a firm grasp it's wrong?

>>333109871
It depends if you think his authoritarian rule is a necessary evil for his plan to revitalize space travel. But even if you didn't, House was able to play off the NCR and Legion for years and is in the best position to milk them for as long as possible. You can't say the same for the Courier who can personally kill both the NCR President and its General. Not to mention the Courier is limited to a spectrum of being an idealist who wants to keep everyone happy or an anarchist who doesn't care about anyone. And that's not getting into whether he's upgraded the securitrons either.
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>>333089535
>not being a console jockey

Cyborg cowboy with energy pistols and hacking, my dude. Neuromancer is now.
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>>333110963
My first character was a whiskey drinking cowboy with cassidy. Re-raul for something new
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>tfw Mormon
>tfw I will never be Porter Rockwell, let alone Joshua
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>>333111013
No, it's worse than that. He has a firm grasp in the wrong places, and it's leading to people that are poor, living in holes, and not allowed to speak out about it. He's lax about the Families because he just doesn't care.

That's House's problem. He really doesn't care about anyone outside the Strip, and that's assuming he even actually cares about the Strip.

>Not to mention the Courier is limited to a spectrum of being an idealist who wants to keep everyone happy or an anarchist who doesn't care about anyone. And that's not getting into whether he's upgraded the securitrons either.
>I never read the dialogue: the post

No, the Courier can outright kill factions they think are detrimental (which I did, like the Fiends), try to bring factions under their heel nicely, or outright state during questlines they are doing what they want.
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>>333066953
Gonna give it a whirl.
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>>333066953
f4 sucks anyway
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>>333112183
>No, it's worse than that. He has a firm grasp in the wrong places, and it's leading to people that are poor, living in holes, and not allowed to speak out about it
And this is different than in the Independent ending? Yeah it's unfair to the average citizen under his rule but they simply must not be a political threat. And again, there's no reason why the Courier cannot directly assist the people of New Vegas financially if he wanted to.

>He's lax about the Families because he just doesn't care.
He's lax about the families because he was the one who made them resemble his vision of Vegas. He doesn't care as long as they stick to their roles and don't undermine him. Benny was an outlier amongst the Tops, The Omertas got too greedy and needed to be shown their place, and the White Gloves were nearly sabotaged by one of their own. House wasn't unaware of these developments, he was just unable to deal with them directly.

>That's House's problem. He really doesn't care about anyone outside the Strip, and that's assuming he even actually cares about the Strip.
He goes on a 5 minute rant about how Vegas was precious to him, of course he fucking cares. He did his best to save the city from nuclear armageddon and he'll be damned before he hands it over to the NCR or Legion. If anything, it's amazing how he warms up to the player so quickly. Him keeping the Courier as his personal guest disagrees with your statement.

>>I never read the dialogue: the post
>Supporting the ideals of independence, the Courier was recognized as the man/woman responsible for a truly free New Vegas.
>Supporting all the chaos that comes with independence, the Courier was the man/woman responsible for a truly free New Vegas.

>No, the Courier can outright kill factions they think are detrimental, try to bring factions under their heel nicely, or outright state during questlines they are doing what they want.
And the Courier can still do the same while working for House.
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>>333067154
Udontknow
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>>333114073
>And again, there's no reason why the Courier cannot directly assist the people of New Vegas financially if he wanted to.
>And the Courier can still do the same while working for House.

THEN WHY HAVE HOUSE IN CHARGE? WHAT DOES HE BRING TO THE TABLE?

>He goes on a 5 minute rant about how Vegas was precious to him, of course he fucking cares.

He cares about his precious prewar vision. He is the embodiment of 'let go' because New Vegas in reality is not anything like what he wants it to be. And it never will be.

>Supporting the ideals of independence, the Courier was recognized as the man/woman responsible for a truly free New Vegas.
>Supporting all the chaos that comes with independence, the Courier was the man/woman responsible for a truly free New Vegas.
That's literally just endgame snippets based on Karma. One can be anywhere in between there or completely not like those statements.
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>>333089535
Right now I'm a Wasteland Shotgun Samurai. Of course I use a katana too. It's a bitch to find all the mods though, checking every vendor and I've only gotten the grip.
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>>333114467
>THEN WHY HAVE HOUSE IN CHARGE? WHAT DOES HE BRING TO THE TABLE?
He has a long term goal for the Mojave and humanity in general that extends beyond simply surviving off of the scraps of the old world. As a leader, he was able to manipulate two larger armies into fighting each other while he profited. He's able to calculate the best way for him to deal with both while maintaining viability for future relations. His handling of Vegas is the reason why people travel hundreds of miles to go gamble.

If anything, what does the Courier bring to the table? Unless your character is a Mary Sue with infinite money and weapons, then they're just simply using House's resources without his cognizance . And while that may be fine for the average citizen, New Vegas will just simply be another town with little potential to grow.

>He cares about his precious prewar vision. He is the embodiment of 'let go' because New Vegas in reality is not anything like what he wants it to be. And it never will be.
As a result of his obsession, he was almost entirely avert the nukes sent to the Mojave. He acquired a rocket building company and built a fort filled with his machines in preparation. Does he step on alot of people to get his way? Yeah, but the Courier is essentially doing the same and is hardly "letting go" by stealing House's assets and using it for the same purpose. All of the factions in the game are echoes of the past, should they "let go" too?

>That's literally just endgame snippets based on Karma. One can be anywhere in between there or completely not like those statements.
Which is why it's impossible to assume the Independent ending is any better because the motivations of the Courier is unknown. It has the potential to be good if you play your cards right, but also has potentially the worst ending for the Mojave.

And, as stated before, the fate of most factions are decided by the Courier. The Courier has a sizeable sphere of control in both endings.
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>>333065714
Guys, lay it on me:
How do I make the game look actually good?
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>>333066953
k, was gonna do a cumslut sheriff next but w/e
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>>333116376
NMC/WRP/Book Of/Hall Of and SweetFX with a compatible ENB, the rest is personal preference.
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>>333066953
Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooherewego
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>>333066953
let's see
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>>333066953

Rolling around at the speed of sound
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>>333093732
>go into silver rush
>pick up all the weapons you want with Z
>walk to toilet and drop item
>pick it up
>????????????
>PROFIT!!!!!
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>>333096334
I couldn't wait to start on it myself.
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