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What bosses actually, and I mean ACTUALLY, fucking CHEAT or break
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What bosses actually, and I mean ACTUALLY, fucking CHEAT or break the rules of the video game to seem "challenging?"
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>>333060493
any fighting game boss

they read your inputs so its easy to be countered or dodged
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>>333060493

bump for interest
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First for soul cali v

Broke the entire fucking game to hell and back.
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I know it was bullshit that you had to fight all three of them, but how did they cheat?
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>gank squad
>cheating boss
the only bad thing about it is playing tag until two of them drop.
its boring not bullshit.
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>>333060868
not OP and I haven't even fought them, but afaik they can cancel attacks mid animation or some shit like that
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>>333060493
The Gank Squad wasn't that bad. Still a shitty boss but it was kind of fair when you exploit their AI

The worst was Elana the Squalid Queen. If you're beating her solo is is doable but it comes down to luck. If she summons the big guy you're literally fucked in the butt. The skeletons are annoying to because sometimes they just feel like rushing non stop.
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I don't play RTS games, but I've been told that AI sometimes do impossible things in those games.
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>>333060493
Orphan of Kos.
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> long ass fucking road to get to the arena
> Each cat is as strong as Avaa
> Unblock-able attacks
> Second one jumps when the first loses half of its HP
> Second one gain buff and do double dmg when the first one dies

This boss fucks me so hard for soloing. This is clearly meant to be defeated with summons.
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>>333061207
A lot of games just have one actual AI difficulty level and then give them double resources/double build rates on higher difficulties.
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>>333061315
I spent a week grinding this boss. And eventually gave up. Was on NG+6 and I figured I would just never beat it. Came back to it a few months later and beat it on my 4th try. It really didn't seem that bad. But I rely completely on rolling I don't use shields.
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>>333060868
Just general DS2 npc/red phantom cheating. Tracking, animation cancelling, rolling out at anytime and not giving a fuck. Combine 3 of them and the fight just becomes doing laps around the arena hitting one of them every now and then
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>>333061040

The gimmick in DaS2 was basically "look at how these enemies can do shit that you clearly can't and will never do, lol!".

Enemies with straight up Dark Souls 1 poise were a thing, but your character in full Havel's got stunlocked if an enemy literally slapped you gently on the chest.
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>>333060613
This. Anything that uses input detection is bullshit. I quit playing Dissidia because there is no middle ground between piss-easy "I stand here and take everything to the face" fights and "I rape your shit by impossibly breaking the game" fights in that game. Everything is entirely contingent on whether or not the AI acts accordingly to your input, and on the higher difficulties it's stupidly easy to lose to an enemy that sits there and waits for you to attack, then immediately counters with a move that parries your attack and damages you at the same time.
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>>333061750
I absolutely despise games where a medium difficulty is fucking piss easy and the next one up is satan's thorny cock in your ears

i have this problem with AoE2HD
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>>333061174
That fight was fucking awful. Having the those skeletons running around while big old shiny track-attack was still alive was pure bullshit. Her and the npc invader that used the lance from Iron Crown are where I stopped playing the game. Watching his thrust attack track 90 degrees to the side mid-animation was the straw that broke the camel's back.

>>333061315
>This is clearly meant to be defeated with summons.
Good thing the game's matchmaking doesn't fuck over coop. That would just be awful.
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Psycho mantis in MGS
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>>333061251
Explain
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ETERNAL COILS
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>>333060493
watching cars teleport around on the map during GTA V mission races was fucking infuriating
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>>333061636
This, not to mention most npc's in DS2 ability to spin 360 degrees in any direction mid attack if you roll too early
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>>333062057
only boss thats ever done it right
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>>333061985
that npc is a legit cheater
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>>333061976
The only way that I know how to beat the hard Aoe2 AI is to hold out until they run out of resources. They don't know how to set up trade carts/boats to keep themselves supplied in the lategame.
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>>333060493
Any RTS AI.
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>Any boss that has healing moves
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>>333062142
>fighting Hazama with any character that isn't Ragna or Jin
>fighting Ragna with Hazama

BULLSHIT
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>>333062373
Is it bad that I mainly want to play DaS2 just for Maldron?
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> Has an instant kill that can not be resisted, repelled or nulled.
> Can use it on the Protagonist in a game that ends if the Protag dies.

Wot a cheeky bitch.
Still one of my favourite boss fights in anything though,
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>>333062219
The rubberbanding in the GTA5 races is absolutely brutal. They don't pay attention to their car's limits at all, I have had the AI rocket past me going max speed in the fastest car.
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>>333062520
>boss has a full heal skill
>uses it when 1 hit from death
>multiple times

AUGHHAHRHGAAAAAAAAFUCK
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>>333060613
This
>Decide to try MKX on very hard
>AI reads all inputs
>Just keeps frame data fagging and even normal jabs wont connect
>Have to cheese the game to even win

Shits fucking stupid not even Online is that impossible.
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>>333061315
>> Unblock-able attacks
Then don't block. Rolling requires less stamina and lets you roll-attack for free dmg.

You get so many i-frames with decent adp/dwgr its ridiculous.
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any SNK boss
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>>333060613
IT'S OFFICIAL, YOU SUCK!
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>>333062783
Oh my god every Shao Khan fight, his attacks that summon the energy/ghost/whatever it is hammer. I swear he can do all of those attacks at will in the middle of anything you're doing, they're instant, and they all have priority over every move you have. I only ever beat him because I got lucky and he didn't use those moves very often.
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>>333061750
Git gud and improve your build, Dissidia isn't hard at all except for Feral Chaos
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>>333062142
Oh boy you should see Justice
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>>333062653
That's not cheating at all though
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>>333062064
It's self explanatory. That boss is bullshit. He's like a rapist on viagra.
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>>333062451
nigga, just build a tower next to their gold/stone mines and save yourself an hour or two
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Is SotFS worth a playthrough? I beat DaS2 at launch and just did a Das1 playthrough in preparation for 3 but I really am not looking forward to playing 2 again.
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>>333063403
Hm, I thought i was in the actually, and i mean ACTUALLY cheating bosses thread, not the buttmad becuz bullshit thread

>>333063495
not if you've beaten 2 already. there's differences but nothing worth another playthrough.
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>>333062292
>attack large enemy
>has huge weapon
>starts winding up and is about to hit
>roll around him
>he rotates as the weapon moves towards the ground
>rotates to where I am
>hits me and kills me

Or when I was doing the rat/dog boss

>wearing heavy armor that makes me look like a slab of metal
>small rat/dog charges at me
>attack
>rat/dog attacks too
>rat/dog does damage to me and pushes me 1 meter behind him
>gets hit by the other rats/dogs and die
>i didnt damage anyone of them

How the fuck did they think it would be cool for NCPs to be able to push you but you can't push them?

Or

>enemy is doing some shitty animation
>its invulnerable until it nearly finishes

Or

>enemy wields slow ass great ultra 360 elite dragon sword
>does a extremely slow attack
>when hes about to finish start moving towards to attack
>the moment his weapon hits the ground
>he immediately does a second attack instantly with zero windup or buildup
>you can't do that

DAS2 is filled with pure bullshit where each enemy breaks shit regularly and gives no shit about it.
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>>333063243
It's something you cannot play around in any way. It's completely unique and you'll have no way to see it coming as you'll certainly think you're safe if you have Light/Dark nulled.
I pity Chaosfags who never got to fight her.
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>>333062451
Rts games ai doesnt know how to respond to rushs aswell, you could try that

I have seen a video of an gyt analysing a hard ai playing in AOE2. Shit is pretty legit, it doesnt cheat with resources and plays like a pro
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1
2
3 GOES
4 you go....
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>>333063403
Git gud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-YTP-Vklak

He dies to circle strafe like 70 percent of souls bosses.
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>>333061315

Each DLC has a boss meant for co op
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>>333062676
Watch how the guy who crashes into me materializes another motorcycle as soon as his goes off-screen, and instantly accelerates to full speed.
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>complaining about gank squad and kitties
unfortunately these bosses and the entire areas leading up to them were designed with coop in mind
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Sup.
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>>333061315
All of those areas with the weird statues at the beginning are designed for co-op. There are simila statues at the beginning of the dlc areas that people that didn't have the dlc could put their signs down on to be summoned for those bosses
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I'm pretty sure the Battle Tower and related facilities in Pokemon cheat when you start doing good. Everyone will have Pokemon, items, and moves that perfectly counter yours, and I swear probability starts shifting in their favor so that they're more likely to hit with inaccurate moves, get critical hits, have secondary effects activate, etc, while you're less likely.
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>>333063993
>have him rubber band and drop a nitro on me

Fucking faggot
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>>333063846
>>333063448
I'll try that tonight, tyvm!
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>>333064218
Jesus christ
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>>333064218
Luckily Franklin's special makes it impossible to lose.
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>>333063495

It's a bit disappointing.

Each zone only contains a small variety of enemies and the core of them are "spear, sword or greatsword" variants of a basic soldier type and it spams huge numbers at you (you'll go through lots of repair powders).

There are boring clones of existing bosses and ones that are literally just regular invaders with huge amounts of HP.

Most bosses have really tedious runs up to them, especially optional ones.

All the bosses seem balanced too heavily around using summons. They all have huge amounts of HP which increases your chance of fucking up when dodging their 1hko moves.

If you have a magic build, you will have a fucking terrible time. Rather than create bosses that make spellcasting challenging, they just made almost all bosses resistant to all forms of magic.
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>>333062624
Maldron is one of the best thing that came out on DS2.
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>>333063778

Another one

>enemy has the exact same start to the animation whether he's doing a 2 hit combo or 3 hit combo
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>>333063579
>boss swings
>dodges back
>it hits
Every time.
>Transforms
>jumps and throws his magic berries everywhere
>dodges hopelessly
>it hits
Every time.
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>>333063789
You can use the Dragon Ring to avoid it once, and if you're planning on beating Mem Aleph regardless of her instakill you have a team that will kill her before she can use it on you more than once anyways
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>>333063778

blue smelter demon
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>>333065089
>his 3 flip jump
>dodge 3 times
>he does it one more time
>fuckme.jpg

Artorias is my favorite boss but he was a bitch. Now he's obviously easy and fun to play, but some of the stuff he does the first time is baffling.
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>>333060493
Can't they heal themselves?
Because that's bullshit
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>>333065089
That boat faggot with 2 katanas, 2 maces does that. I died so many times to that stupid fuck.
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Not a boss, but the AI in Civ V cheats on higher difficulties by having units magically spawn without having to build them.
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Cynthia and her perfect IV pokemons.
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>>333065862
They start with more techs researched, more units, and I think don't have to follow the rules of the game at all. They basically ignore resources and do whatever they want, Deity AI can found a city on a bunch of ice tiles and end up with 30+ pop.
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>>333065397
I haven't even found the regular smelter yet.
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>"People complained that the bosses in the main game were too easy. How do we make the DLC boss harder? I know, let's make his weak spot only reachable through air attacks!"
>"But sir, our air combat was never fleshed out and frankly sucks!"
>"Shut the fuck up Pablo and make sure that you still only do chipping damage when hitting him!"
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>>333066510
I remember this faggot, you just had to spam the max level boosts that made you teleport. I had a lot more trouble with the third boss for some reason, the guy with the vampire theme.
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>>333066510
>That ice golem in Lego Racers 2 who takes off from the starting line a second or two before the light turns green
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>>333066308
git gud
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>>333062373
they really captured the "Dickass invader" well with Maldron
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>>333066656
>Lego Racers 2
What the fuck, how didn't I know about this? And it got a fucking PC release? Goodbye 4chan, it's time for video games.
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>>333061726
I can't bring myself to get past the first few areas because everything feels so awkward and unbalanced. There are several enemies that can attack faster than you can raise your shield or dodge, meaning you have to be lucky, absurdly careful, or precognitive to make any progress. It's just poor design compared to the first game where no enemies really had unfair attacks. Sure, they were tough and you might die on the first few encounters, but at least defeating them was based more on skill than luck.
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>>333066949
The whole game is just filled with poor design. Not saying everything in it is bad, but there's enough bad to drown out the good.
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>>333061315
I failed like 30 times due to those fucking horses before the boss but beat the boss itself on second try
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>>333061315
Eh, I summoned both NPCs for the fight, it was harder getting them there with full health
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>>333060493
I actually got them on my second try

I think the key to winning this battle is to use the terrain to your advantage

>have the two retards follow you into the water
>run back up
>go after the faggot with the bow

rinse and repeat

EZ PZ
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Everyone in Kingdom Hearts: CoM

You can't play a card while being combo stunned but bosses can. Not to mention they immediately zip to a more powerful card when it's available when you have to manually find one yourself.
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>>333060493
How did they 'cheat'?
NPCs having impossible stats is not new in Souls if you mean their constant attackign
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>>333062695
God the dark world deamons and old king in demon souls
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The Flagship in FTL.
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>>333067303
I love a lot of the boss and area designs I've seen, but when the combat- the thing you spend 99% of your time doing- is both dull and stacked against you, it's not remotely worth the effort.

I enjoyed Dark Souls and Bloodborne so much that I've been ignoring other games and replaying those two over and over instead, but Dark Souls 2 is suffering.
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>>333065087
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>>333065087
Does the Giant Seed work on him in Ivory King?
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>>333068047
It does
Always kill him that way it's annoying as shit otherwise
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>>333067730
Their poise felt random and I recall them tanking the great club heavy attack several times while on another playthrough I staggered one of them with a rapier thrust. Other than that they had the ability to interrupt attacks and even rolls to roll an extra time when they should have been fucked
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>>333065087
of course you would like him...

he's LITERALLY /v/: The NPC

smhtbh...
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>>333068175
But that's not really new, NPCs were always kinda bullshit in souls, granted you didn't absolutely have to fight 3 at a time before.
I think staggering the 2 not-Havel's is fairly easy.
I really had no issue with this fight other than how fucking disappointing and creatively bankrupt it was. It was easy as fuck because AI was still as great as ever.
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>>333060493
technically not a boss but fuck this dude, seriously.

I would consider 155 Strength and 255 luck "cheating" when the max the character can get, unassisted with potions/spells, is 100.
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>>333060493
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>>333066864
>PC release
Now THIS IS ALSO NEWS TO ME
SHIT
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>>333068047
>>333068169
Actually, giant seed doesn't affect him in the Ivory King DLC since he doesn't count as an invader, but instead as an area mob.

This means that using a seed there makes him hostile towards invaders.
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>>333060493
Fuck this boss. That one and the frozen wastes boss were the only souls bosses I had no remorse summoning npc phantoms for.
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>>333063993
I could beat this cunt with my eyes closed when I was a kid. I tried again a few weeks ago, couldn't even manage to not get lapped. What the fuck.
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>>333069005
fuck this game
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>>333068868
HNNNNNNG MAKING WANT TO INSTALL MORROWIND AGAINNNNNNNNN
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>that area in DaS2 where the snow impacted your vision and those fucking reindeer which tracked you more than any other enemy in the game and always hit you
I haven't touched the game since.
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>>333069928
There is a fucking snow area? I know that there are 2 poison areas and 1 forge area that I haven't found yet. But I've got no fucking clue where any of them are. Fuck this game.
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>>333060493
>boss has invulnerability or immunity to all elements

Stop doing this. Stop. The boss is already stronger, has probably thousands more hp and can one shot you. There is no excuse for him having any form of invulnerability at any point. If you're going to put fucking elemental damage in the game I shouldn't be locked out of using it because hurr this boss is super duper strong and inbincible.. also he can't really die he just gets knocked out.. also he can fly and learn all of your attacks and he can run faster than the speed of light time 100.. also you can't damage his face or body only his pinky toe every 7 attacks

Bosses in games are like playing with that one kid.. who refuses to lose a game so he just makes up bullshit rules as he goes.
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>>333070068
snows DLC.

I believe the poison areas are through the bottom of the well in Majura, and past the forest with the ghost phantoms
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>>333070078
Gonna need a few examples here bro.
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>>333070204
Oh I've just found the DLC areas, and so far I hate it. It just seems to be, spam 50 more enemies everywhere. Not that poison area, the poison area with the snake lady. Unless that's there too.
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>>333061207
RTS games notoriously only have one actual difficulty. Higher ones just increase the ais resource/build speed. Meaning you can exploit them by simply face rushing early as they'll power build all buildings and such first.
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>>333062990
I honestly had to cheese to win and am not ashamed of it cause I seriously spent what must've been 4 hours trying to fight any other way possible.
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>>333070597
i meant to divide my answer in two, I think you need to head into the forest area and go through the misty forest. After the scorpion boss (or whatever the fuck) I think it leads to the poison valley.
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Mario and Luigi in Super Mario Kart on 150cc. Rubber band AI, and can use Stars constantly.
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>>333070879
>>333070597
no wait i was wrong its after hunstmans copse.
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>>333071178
Theres a new area after hunstmans copse? I just found a crazy old lady that tells me to leave.
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The SC2 AI cheats on higher levels.
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>>333060493
A good number of the NPC hunters in Bloodborne, especially the Bloody Crow.
I classify them as bosses because they usually have such an impossible amount of health they may as well qualify.
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>everyone complaining about how unfair the enemies in DaS2 are
>but i've been able to play through the game 6 times now with no real issues
What seems to be the problem here? The only time i've ever noticed ridiculous tracking and poor hitboxes is on those huge Knights in the dragon area and the Ogres' grab respectively, and that's it.
Am I just better than all of you or am I somehow blind to everything despite playing the game so much?
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>>333070393
Not him but the elemental damage thing is present in every game with that system ever. The trick is you generally just have to punch them to death.

Lots of games have bosses or enemies that are immune to damage unless a perquisite is met. Which is generally a cheesy way to get you to use a mechanic you'd normally avoid.
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>>333071634
theyre just shit, only bad enemies are the two you mentioned and the giant rat boss in doors of pharros.

abosolute bullshit that thing,
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>>333071634
I can cheese out the AI of a fighting game, but that doesn't mean I can't complain about input reading.
I'm have no difficulties beating DaS2, but I can still recognize that there is a lot of stupid bullshit in that game. It has nothing to do with whether or not you're good at the game.
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>>333071898
>roll under rat boss
>kill him as he keeps attacking in front of himself

The only bad thing about that fight are the 4 small ones.
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I don't think it counts as cheating but every boss and n DaS2 has an innate, and pretty big, damage reduction against bows and crossbows. I made an archery focused dex build for one of my play throughs and it was great, literally shitting damage on enemies and rarely being in danger myself. That blackbow with infused arrows, oh boy. I could be doing up towards 700 damage per shot but when I got to a boss I'd be lucky to break 150/shot. And most fights were set up where being at a distance made the fight more difficult so I was forced to use my rapiers or spear for every single boss.

I get why they did it but it was I just complete overkill. Hopefully DaS3 handles bows better but from what I've seen it looks like ranged weapons are getting plenty of love.
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>>333072065
ive read the strats, ive beaten the game and most dlcs.

this guy fucks me up.
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haha maybe stop benig bad
the game is perfect, a true fan doesnt care :)
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>>333072230
And the point with my post was to show you that everyone is good at different things. You're bad at him but I'm good while you're good at other bosses that I'm bad at.
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>>333072449
stop youre ruining my narrative
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>>333071671
Is that not the point of elemental damage though? If enemies don't have different resists to them, the only significant change is your attacks being red or blue. Plenty of times, you got ghosts, slimes or other sorts who greatly resist or are outright immune to punching.
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>>333061315
Git gud faggot, Maxishilian beat them first try and he doesn't even play Souls games more than one time.
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FROMSoft cheated ME by trying to sell me the same game I bought last year again.
$35 fucking dollars, unbelievable...

I'm actually thinking of doing it, too. I never played the DLC and I've heard extremely mixed things from it.
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>>333072205
Who even uses ranged in souls games?
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>>333072823
Who the fuck is this faggot and why does he matter?
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>>333065397
I liked Blue Smelter from a design perspective
>Clone pretty hard boss
>The best way to beat said boss is to learn its combos and how to punish them
>Make the clone have similar, yet subtly different combos that require the player to totally un-learn all the strategies they had for fighting the original

It was an interesting way to make what should have been a rehash challenging
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>>333073169

It's a nice change of pace and 2 added things like lock-on and movement while drawn so I gave it a shot. It's fun.
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>>333073169
I use it to aggro and kill certain things. Also if I feel like pooping Capra to death, it's good for aiming the throw.
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>>333073043
Dark Souls 3 comes out in a week, just buy that and forget Dark Souls 2 entirely
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>>333073043
The DLC bosses (the ones intended to be defeated alone), level design and items are pretty dope

The enemy design, enemy placement and annoyance factor are THROUGH THE FUCKING ROOF.

I'd say it's worth it, but I'd use a min-maxy build to deal with anything between you and the bosses, since they are all cheap pieces of shit.
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I've died so many times to this fuck
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>>333072205

Pretty much every boss is resistant to piercing, that's why
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>>333073421
why didn't they just do something creative or new
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>>333067787
that is the soul reason why i haven't came back to that game yet
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>>333061174
>The worst was Elana the Squalid Queen. If you're beating her solo is is doable but it comes down to luck. If she summons the big guy you're literally fucked in the butt

>see everyone say this
>have elana boss battle on jewtube in the background
>had no problems whatsoever
>didn't even realise that was THE boss everyone was scared of

Velstadt that she summoned did fuck all too, i dont get it
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>>333067610
I hate how you have to explot the AI to effectively beat certain bosses. It's so jarring.
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Not a boss per say, but the cops in Watch_Dogs puts any GTA cop to shame.
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>>333076778
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>>333077184
Bad dad
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>>333061315
Kek, got the kitties first try.
Just gid gud.
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Don't a lot of JRPG bosses spam spells and techniques with absurd MP costs?

Though, on the opposite end of the spectrum, I actually appreciate boss battles where bosses play by the exact same rules as standard characters. Not because they're easier, but because it's fun to look at from a technical standpoint.
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>Probably on my 14th try on Artorias now

What the fuck this guy is hard, I've beaten every Souls game except Bloodborne and this is probably the most I've ever had to retry a boss. Fume Knight was dead on the 4th

Maybe I'm just doing something wrong. The boss fight is fun as fuck but I hate having to run 2 minutes everytime I want to retry
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>>333064218
Dont believe you. There's 2 more blips behind your crash area. Only 2 bikers go by once you were hit off, it should be at least 3 if the dude insta spawned. Also, can't see blips on the map after you fell off to indeed confirm this
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>>333078265
Rest forever here in our hearts.
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>>333078265
Side-roll and use the long spear with the overhead attack. Lets you keep distance.
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>>333075650
Fuck this thing, every souls boss need some strategy to be beaten but this was just fucking retarded
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>>333078598
>long spear
I'm using the silver knight spear or whatever its called. Do you happen to mean that one? I picked it up on a whim and damn is it strong
>>333078571
I dont get it
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>>333078265
you're not M-rated enough
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>>333078921
didn't FROM apologize for the boss at some point?
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>>333079096
I think the silver knight spear is the longest spear overall.
>>333079186
Yeah, they acknowledged it wasn't good. There's an unused model for an actual boss version for that fight.
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>>333079096
It's been so long I don't remember what the weapon was called. I just remember using a spear that had an overhead attack that let me do decent damage while not getting too close.
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>>333065397
Dodge left under sword
Dodge right under sword
Punish or dodge big sword slam and then punish.

Most of his shit was easy as fuck to dodge if you stayed up close.

The only thing he had going on for was the small attack delay so you had to dodge a bit differently each time. It wasn't hard to adjust though.
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>>333078265
How is the run 2 minutes?
Do you know you could unlock the elevator shortcut next to Chester so you don't have to run through the long forest route littered with enemies.

It takes like 30secs (1min tops) to reach artorias and you there are only 2 enemies on the way which aggro
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>>333080010
1 minute then, whatever. Feels like 2

At what level should I challenge Artorias anyways?
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>>333080171
I'd say 55+ but that's coming from someone who's played the game several times.
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>>333061174
Just beat her last night on NG4. Flynn's ring helps when you're fighting her summons and she's casting magic offscreen. Honestly I don't find her that bad because her summo a are easily dealt with using strike weapons. The trio in cave of the dead is bullshit, though I haven't taken them in yet.
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>CTRL+F
>Drakengard 3
>No Results
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>>333080171
Well its doable at starting level.

But all in all it really comes down to your build.

If you don't want to sweat it too much maybe around 65+ would be pretty ok, i guess.
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Fallout: New Vegas - Dead money, sneaking past Elijah
If you try to hide behind the pillar and go the way he came from, he somehow automatically detects it and the energy barrier comes on.
Last time I played the DLC I tried it like 30 times with 100 sneak skill + stealth boy.
Got frustrated and §tcl'd my way out of there.
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>>333080474
The run is fucking bs as well.

Nothing makes me more infuriated than getting stuck by the mobs and getting petrified.
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>>333075650
Is that the reason people don't like it? Just because its hard?
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>>333062057
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>>333064218
ARE YOU FUCKING SORRY!?
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>>333080916
It's not hard in a sense you'd think.

You don't learn from your mistakes because all the boss does is sweep around and you either get lucky or get 1 hit death by falling off to your death.

The only way to consistently win is to bring some firebombs with you throw them at the cores you have to destroy.
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>>333080554
I assume you talking about the rhythm boss, I wouldn't really call that cheating
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>>333075650
>destroy one node
>run along the inner circle that is obviously highlighted with a darker colour and doesn't break
>destroy second node
>run along the inner circle again and jump on the wooden penis
>kill the bed of chaos

ez
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>>333081209
Or arrows.
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>>333060493
All the bosses in Diddy Kong Racing had the craziest fucking rubberbanding ever to exist in a racing game.

If you think recent Mario Kart games are bad, go play DKR.
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>>333060493
Literally every computer faction cheats. I got attacked by three armies of Spanish rebels that I had never seen before. They literally had one territory on Spain and they sailed three full armies to Dalmatia just to attack me. The Huns are straight bullshit though.
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>>333081209
It's easier when you know what to do. Break the right branch first, quit out.

Break the left one, quit out. Bait the swipe and drop down to the branch
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>>333081368
I've done it with arrows before but the firebombs work better since it only takes 1 bomb and you don't have to aim too perfectly
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>>333081283
>its easy anon, you just have to fall down out of the combat area onto this branch under the area and walk up the branch to hit the real boss
Be honest, did you know to do this without someone telling you? Its a flatout shit fight because without the knowledge of how its beaten its seen as impossible, and once you know how to fight it its not even a fight.
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>>333081676
Every TW game is like that. The AI doesn't have to deal with public order or taxes, their units gets straight up stat boosts on higher difficulties, and in some titles they can 'upgrade' their soldiers to the next tier when you aren't looking. Entire stacks of ashigaru literally transforming into samurai and warrior monks in Shogun 2.
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>>333081912
>get to the bug
>boc does firestorm
>manage to hit it and get the soul as I die
Fuck the souls and humanity, I got what I needed
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>>333068169
The last time I ran through Ivory King, I somehow managed to stunlock him before he could even run away. I don't think I could ever repeat that.
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>>333081254
The camera goes insane, and there is no cue whatsoever for the last two notes. It's pure bullshit.
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>>333081912
Yes I did, because you see the fucking ground fall down and a giant dick below that leads up to the fucking bed of chaos
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>>333081881
It's shit design if you "need" to use trickery like that in a game that is all about fair difficulty.

They even admitted adding the boss the way it is was a mistake. In the files there are remnants of a different moveset for the boss, which makes me think it was supposed to be a more traditional encounter.

They run of time and came up with the atrocity we see in the game today.
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>>333082412
Yeah, I agree it's a shit boss. Might as well beat it abusing game mechanics
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>>333082297
You trust your eyes too much grasshopper
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not a boss but it needs mention on how bullshit big army computer can get without going out of city ever
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>>333082628
Whenever i replay the game i use the speedrunner method.
>Run quickly to center of the boss
>Aim firebomb to left and throw
>Skip cutscene
>Aim firebomb to right and throw
>Floor collapses but you're already at the bug so it's no problemo.
>Just fuck her shit up.
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>>333060493
Nitrous Oxide (the Final Boss) in Crash Team Racing cheats MASSIVELY by zooming off on the count of "2" when the race counts down to start.
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>>333083161
That's because he's an asshole, it was an intended design choice
What really pissed me off though was how he'd get random speed boosts and maneuvered the level perfectly
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>>333079453
The Demon Spear is the longest, IIRC it's the only melee weapon that can kill Vendrick in his little barred off cave in New Londo.
>No... How?... Impossible...
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>>333061174
I've managed to beat Elana easy on like my second or third try.

The ganksquad was damn near fucking impossible because whatever retard made DaS2 forgot to fix poise as a mechanic, and my very slow Greatsword didn't do jack fucking shit to even the DEX faggot flinch.

It was the most horrible fucking fight in all of Souls for me.
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>>333060493
DEMON'S SOULS LITERALLY HAD THE SAME THING

>B-BUT IT'S OK WHEN MUHZAKY DOES IT
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>>333083320
It was intentional cheating, yes. He was a cheeky fuck.

So fucking satisfying when you beat him though.
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>>333083340
I think the silver knight spear is the longest spear but the demon spear has an attack with the longest reach, if that makes sense.
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>>333060493
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>>333083526
no it didnt?
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>>333083340
You mean Rickart?

Vendrick is top king in Dark Souls 2
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>>333083935
>DUDE IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT AND A STROKE OF GENIUS WHAT A GREAT FIGHT BASED MUHZAKI!!!!!11
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>>333061315
>mfw soloing that shit
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>>333084047
You can lure one at a time and they don't break the game's rules.
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>>333083634
Okay, that makes more sense, I think you're correct.
>>333083949
Fuck, that's his name. I never really interacted with Rickert much so I never could remember his name easily. I use to mix him up with Griggs as well.
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>>333084047
that's not a bossfight silly
and it gave you the whole goddamn world to run around and kite them
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>>333067730
>it's not cheating if they've been cheating for a while
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Since everyone's talking about Dark Souls and specifically 2, what's the soonest I can get a greatsword that isn't gimpy, like the claymore or zweihander? I never bothered to finish it and dropped it a year ago but I feel obligated to try again before DS3.
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>>333064010
But lobos is souls savant at this point.
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>>333062057
this right here.
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>>333084848
If you mean Ultra Greatswords, you can get one from the Old Kinghts in Heide if you're extremely lucky (though it sucks). You can get THE Greatsword in No Man's Wharf, which is arguably the best UGS in the game

If you mean greatswords, then I think you get the Drangleic GS after the Pursuer
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>>333084848
As soon as you get to no man's wharf

You can rush dragonrider, get to the place with the long-armed green dudes and get the greatsword from the chest

That shit has the perfect moveset and can carry you through the entire game, including DLC without breaking a sweat
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>>333084470
It's not cheating if the game has established the NPCs don't play by the rules player does
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>>333084848
No Man's Wharf, as others have said, somewhere in the upper level.

But don't fucking bother with DaS2 unless you're really far and have immediate access to all DLCs, it's not worth fucking about with it otherwise.
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Warcraft 3 AI technically
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>>333085042
>long-armed green dudes

The what?
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>>333085516
I'm guessing he means the weird ass long armed things that are scared of light and inflict bleed
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>>333085516
>>333085604
http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Darkdweller
These niggas
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>>333076431
Thats basically any boss though
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>>333085680
Yeah, if you just use a torch instead of a shield for most of the area and light stuff up as you go then they don't cause any problems
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>>333085604
>>333085680
OHH I forgot those fagets.

Anyone know any good places to farm titanite? I've tried the enemies from the black pools but their drop rate is pretty garbage and I've already despawned one of them.
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>>333069594
Why do you think they put an age limit of 3+ years on that game? That only young kids can play it
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>>333064835
i barely ever used any repair powder in das2, seriously, how do you people fight?
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>>333085680
those things aren't green tho
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>>333080820
Have you ever killed the statue lizards with anything other than a bow?
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>>333060493
This is the moment that I just deleted Dark Souls 2 off my HDD.Dark Souls, Demon's Souls, and Bloodborne only have very small instances of bullshit, but this game was consistently a complete fucking mess. Fucking B Team should stick to being code monkeys and concept artists
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>>333082297
that's not cheating though, it's just hard as fuck.
trust your ears
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>>333085949
Does hitting dead bodies still remove 5 or 6 points of durability in a single swing?

>DURRR WHY ARE YOU HITTING BODIES
Fucking hated the ds2 defense force back then. Maybe cuz there's more than one nigga I have to kill and they bunch up like crazy, what the hell.
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>>333086073
Man the fuck do I know, I'm an engineer, not an art major
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>>333086240
The durability bug was fixed, yes.
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>>333062064
Anon needs to git gud. Orphan is literally a skill check
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>>333065253
Literally git gud
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>>333085042
>green
Blue.
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>>333086336
Really? I joined the rat covenant and broke santier's spear on a then invincible mammoth knight
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>It would be a shame if someone were to activate Megalomania in the middle of that combo you're performing...
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>>333061174
spare one skelly
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>>333076778
Except have you tried going into the water?
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>>333073169
It's broken as fuck in bloodborne
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>>333060493
>get to this boss after that shitfest of a lead up
>die
>try again and summon some dude
>It's a Sir Alonne cosplayer
>he fucks up two of them on his own while I dance aorund with the last dude

Thanks, you weeaboo faggot
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>>333086915
She turned back mid-attack if you went behind her too, if I remember correctly. I want to hate fuck her into submission
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>>333084047
I dont remember this
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>>333061315
I think it was easier to solo them and with the two NPC summons. The bosses had less health and you could just burst them down faster.
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>>333087984
Shit, I meant it was easier to solo them than with the two NPC summons.
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>>333084047

The only bullshit thing was the Raping Spear that break your shit. That dude was slow, so I was able to kill all of them at once with my gear intact.
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>>333060493
Not a boss, but this faggot does legitimately cheat
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>>333084047
>He doesn't keep a bow for LITERALLY nothing but the purpose of drawing aggro
>inb4 "b-b-but MUH EQUIP WEIGHT"
>Not keeping on equip weight-boosting ring
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>>333066949
I doubt that really happens.
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>>333070068
>>333070204
Poison areas in DS2 weren't half as bad as DS1's Blighttown
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>>333088523
Funnily enough, he does nothing other DaS/DeS or BB NPCs haven't done before, only he combines all their cheating ways.

>Infinite spells
>Infinite ammo
>Longer i-frames than player has
>Inflated HP pool

Pretty much everyone else has some of these, but this is the only guy to have all that I remember.
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This is Elisabeth. She will fuck your shit so far up your ass you'll be breathing crap.

She has 20,000 HP - 10,001 HP more than the main character can EVER reach. She has multiple Personas to deal with any of yours. She can also heal at half health, though she only does this once.

Now for the fun stuff.

Her fight is MADE of unwritten rules that you could not possibly know without a walkthrough. You have to face her Solo. You cannot use a persona that has resistance to her elements, because she has access to Megadiloan - an attack that does 9,999 damage. Oh, and she can cast it twice in a row. There is literally only one way of beating her - lowering her to 9,999 health (TWICE, since she heals the first time) and then using a item that deals 9,999 damage. That is the only way, otherwise she will spam Megadiloan.

This fight threw strategy and skill out of the window, instead requiring you to dance on her strings and obey every rule in fear of a Megadiloan spam.
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git gud
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Also, ALL NPC hunters in Bloodborne. Special mention to the Shutgun Spammer near Amelia, the Gank squad near the One Reborn and the boss at the end of Eileen's quest.

They take the entire concept of a fair fight and destroy it. Infinite ammo. Shedloads of defence. Many, MANY more times HP than you. The ability to heal. Humongous attack.

And remember, one of the gank squad has a CANNON he can spam. a one-shot kill weapon that has a high penalty in bullets - but NPC hunters need no bullets.

Eileen's quest ender is just a imput-reading beeyotch.

And the shogtun/blunderbuss dude outside the Grand Cathedral is such a chore to fight i ignore him. every shot hits you, you can barely fight back and it becomes a battle of attrition as you get shot hundreds of time a second.
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>>333090036
>>333089681
return to reddit namefag
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>>333088915
Black Gulch was worse
>Let's completely fuck the pace by forcing the player to destroy these statues
>Let's also put the last bonfire behind a statue, and hidden.
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>>333086915
I'm no expert in GG but do all boss characters get life regen and actively avoid you once they get low to regenerate?
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>>333079096
he probably means the lucerne which is op

i just used the immortal black knight halberd and steamrolled the game
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>>333090442
It wasn't really all that hidden to be honest
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