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What went right? And is it really the best in the series?
>>333060042
>What went right?
Skeltons
>>333060887
still on the first campaign here, does it get better?
I can't tell if it's nostalgia but there is something about M&M2 that i like more than 3
>>333061582
>campaign
The campaigns are boring shit, do random maps or something
>>333060042
I really liked 5 after that dwarf expansion
This is HoMM3. M&M3 is a different game.
>>333060042
Feature-wise the two latest games, HoMM6 and 7, are easily the best.
HoMM3 on the other hand is easy, accessable, wonderful graphics and has that overall charm that just shows how much love was put into the game.
>>333065437
>Feature-wise 7 is easily the best
Is being a buggy, broken-as-fuck shat-out game a 'feature' these days?
>>333065437
>Feature-wise the two latest games, HoMM6 and 7, are easily the best.
+1 for effort. Try to be a little less obvious next time
>>333065672
HoMM7 has been patched constantly since launch, and is a good place now. Still needs a bit of work at some places, but overall it's a solid 6 or 7.
HoMM 5 is the best one balance-wise and gameplay wise
HoMM 3 is the classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOJgusE8lqw
>>333065981
i cannot finish a scenario nor the campaing for homm V, it takes for fucking ever to do something
>>333061582
Really depends what you consider to be fun.
The campaigns get "better" in the sense that it gets more challenging and you grow up to the task so it could be considered satisfying as you build your heroes to become crazy strong.
Some missions/campaigns are just plain unfair though.
>>333064843
I actually prefer the hand crafted campaign maps to the randomly generated unbalanced crap.
>>333065972
It needs a year of constant patching and adjustments. Even in it's current state it's still a cripple on life support.
>>333066196
Yeah, they released it waaaay too early. I also get the impression they don't know where to take the series. On one side they have the rabid fanboys who hate change, and on the other you need to add new things to keep the series fresh.
Personally I considerHoMM6to be the best HoMM game. Enough new features for old fans, while keeping the solid gameplay for new players. Only annoyance was the limited resources, but you didn't think much about it later on.
>>333060042
relatively simple but effective gameplay and User Interface, enough content to feel substantial but no feature bloat, and an art style that is nearly timeless in the base game with only a few ugly outliers in the expansions.
>>333067828
>>333066192
>>333065981
>>333064967
>>333065437
>>333060887
thanks and goodnight
>>333064967
HoMM5 is good, if only they could go back and fix the clusterfuck that is playing with expansions.
2 and 3 are the only games that matter.
i think we can all agree that this guy is the best hero in the game
>>333060042
>What went right?
KB->HoMM1->2->3 were pretty much a direct evolution of each other. They got a simple, working formula and they kept building on it, adding more features and layers, without shaking the foundation. Also, it came with an extremely easy and powerful map editor ensuring fan support for years to come.
>And is it really the best in the series?
It's between that and H5 3.1
>>333061582
Restoration of Erathia campaigns are essentially training mode. They're not that difficult at all. You should've gotten the complete version on GOG instead of this shitty Linux backport of just the first version.
>>333065437
>Feature-wise the two latest games, HoMM6 and 7, are easily the best.
This is bait. And I actually like 6.
>>333066162
...There's speed settings in the options.
>>333066903
This poster is a spider, don't listen to him.
MMH6 has its high moments but on the whole it's a rather poor Heroes game.
H7 is just an unpolished hodgepodge of barbones content without vision.
>>333069653
5 was a lot of fun, and the town screens were beyond amazing.
Too bad they dialed that back and made 2d ones in Homm7
>>333069867
>>333069749
That's not Andra or Tazar
I prefer HoMM2.
It has much better art direction, I prefer its music, and I know it sounds stupid but it's comfier to play.
>>333069867
5 town screens aren't good. They're nice to look at but they're not functional. You can't even see all the buildings at a glance, you can't tell what's built and what's not, it's basically a mess.
7 isn't much better but that's just because of poor artwork.
>>333070198
I perfer the second one as well, the only thing preventing me from playing 2 exclusively is the random map generator is fucking crap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8tXAc7ur7M
Get comfy
>>333070327
What, are you serious? if anything the big 3d space force them to make buildings that stand out and are clear as to what they do, and the zoom when you first enter the towns make it so you can see the whole thing, along with the rotation so you can select everything.
I will agree that Dungeon has samey and boring buildings.
>>333060887
This tbf
The game have solid mechanics of course, but Sandro and his Epic is what cemented the game in my psyche.
Fuck, that character is so awesome.
>>333070868
The fact that you even HAVE to rotate the camera to select everything is already an inconvenience. They're nothing but pretty screensavers.
>mfw3 > 5 with expansions > 6 > 4 > haven't played the rest which are all fine but lets not talk about 7
>>333060042
I prefer the 2nd one but it's more because it's the one I played the most in my youth. I think 3 is better but I don't really like the new races.
>>333071221
So you rather regress and have 2d town screens because you can't wait 2 seconds to rotate the camera?
>>333071390
I'd rather have functional screens that don't waste my time.
>>333060042
>And is it really the best in the series?
Not really. Very few people would consider M&M III the best of the series. That title usually goes to either World of Xeen or Mandate of Haven.
VI was actually fun
fite me
>>333060042
>And is it really the best in the series?
Yes it is.
>>333071775
It was. As a single-player turn-based adventure game. The campaigns were particularly great. But some of its design decisions preclude it from being great in multiplayer or having lastability.
Plus, it took too long for them to actually polish the game with all the patches and updates, it was quite awful on release, but that happened with 5 and 4 before it as well. Will they patch fun into 7? I guess time will tell!
>>333071550
I'm sorry that your ADD doesn't allow you to enjoy more engaging town screens
>>333071771
Look at the pic.
He is talking about Heroes not M&M.
>>333072139
I'm sorry that you're a shitty casual who's probably bad at the game.
>>333060887
>>333072362
oh boy, i'm sure am sad i'm not a competitive and hardcore pro HoMM player, can't compare to those awesome MLG 360 armageddon spamming battles you must pull off.
>>333070195
>Andra or Tazar
>not Gunnar
Gunnar and Crag are the way to go
>>333072691
Yep, sounds like Heroes Chronicles of Heroes V campaigns that my grandma can beat might be more up your alley.
>>333072110
Yeah, the singleplayer is what I meant. Never really played Heroes in multiplayer too much, apart from few times on hotseat
>>333060042
Music was alright.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0nhf1xl0Rg
>>333072876
I would kill for a grandma that played HoMM3, that sounds really fun actually
>>333060042
realistic scenarios
>>333073101I don't care how gay it is, I fucking love playing Rampart. It's in my top 3 with necro and dungeon.
>>333071771
>tfw Day of the Destroyer is my favourite
>>333073359
Rampart is a great entry-level faction (I don't mean that in a bad way). Wish they had kept sprites and phoenixes in it though.
>>333073359
There is nothing gay about a bunch of murdering tree hippies, because unlike actual hippies, these guys take action.
>>333073575
It always felt wrong to have centaurs as a basic unit, you would think they be in a higher tier
>>333073101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR9lKKQRkto
>>333074014
>Gee Sandro, 2 million Liches?
>>333074120
That's nice bit of fanservice.
So is HoMM VI worth it? i always wait until all the expansions are out to judge a HoMM game, so i haven't really looked into it.
>>333074461
It's nice if you think of it more as a Disciples or King's Bounty game rather than Heroes game. Get it if there's a sale or something.
>>333074014
Fucking fuck, I actually counted those rows and squares and there are actually 5500 liches in that image. Fuck you, you faggot.
>>333074461
I liked it
>>333074685
Uh, so is Shades of darkness an standalone game? I guess it's like how Homm 5 dealt with it's expansions, by being separate games.
>>333075058
It is standalone, but you'll be missing out on the original version's campaigns, which are, honestly speaking, the highlight of the game.
>>333074461
>So is HoMM VI worth it?
It's alright. Go in with tempered expectations and you'll enjoy it.
I like the campaigns.
For normal matches i like the previous iterations better.
>>333074696
Yet you didnt notice his filename is spelled wrong.
>>333074461
I think they really nailed the weeaboo water faction. Liked they tried to do something different instead of recycling old factions and creatures.
>>333074198
So I've never played any of these games and I'm interested after seeing a few threads. How would I get started nowadays? Should I play 2 or 3 first? Are they hard to run on modern machines?
>>333076213
Just grab HoM&M3 off of GoG
or pirate, really
they're a blast, not too hard to run
You could probably run them on a notebook at this point.
>>333075871
Sanctuary is legit.
>>333075871
I remember seeing videos about those guys, they looked really good.
Also, speaking about new factions, what kind of new factions would you like to see in a new HoMM game?
>>333076213
Buy Heroes 3 Complete on GOGor torrent it, whatever
Use this HD mod: https://sites.google.com/site/heroes3hd/eng/download
Start with Restoration of Erathia campaign, it's intended for beginners to get their hang on the game.
Funny thing, i played HoMM3 for years and never touched Campaigns or Random maps. The game got so many damn maps they are enough for me
>>333076213
>How would I get started nowadays?
Are you Eastern European? If yes, you were born for this. It's in your blood.
If not, read a manual first or whatever.
>>333076321
>>333076626
Oh I didn't know they had GoG releases, gonna pick that up then
Thanks anons
>>333076754
>>333060042
That doesn't look like the HD mod. Is that the moneygrab HD re-release?
>>333060042
M&M3 was awesome. It had ninjas.
>>333076943
Yes
>>333077053
Looks too smooth
Also horrendous typefont
>>333076626
>>333076321
>>333076843
Alternately, buy Heroes Chronicles off of GoGor torrent or whatever
It's basically a series of campaigns (8 missions each) that follow the same character. They were originally made as demos/bonus content, but they're a semi-coherent story, follow the chronological driftthat eventually leads to Heroes 4 Gelu you dumb shitand rolling around with a hero with 30 in every stat at the end of the campaign and taking on 20 ogres with 20 goblins receiving 1 casualty is pretty sweet.
tl;dr: fun
>>333077053
This shit looks like it's fucking drawn instead being a pre-rendered 3D scene.
Absolutely horrible.
>>333077135
HD mod scaler does a better job and it's really sad.
>>333078004
>gelu destroyed heroes franchise
fucking elves
How is this game?
Been meaning to try it.
>>333078004
>Heroes Chronicles
Ew. They're too baby tier, and heralded the coming of scripted, "story"-oriented map design. Pic related is a stereotypical HC map, where your enemy is walled away from you by a script until you feel comfortable to go and challenge them, all on a small, really simple map.
But it had those fuckhuge text boxes with the backstory that everybody loves for no apparent reason!
>>333073575
Rampart is comfy as fuck, Dungeon is the second comfiest.
>>333078352
It's a nice little distraction. Also, has qts.
>>333078418
Uh... you know, that was the very first map of a campaign, I think
and these were released as demos
so yes, 'baby tier' and huge infodumps and tutorials were, in fact, included deliberately.
Which is part of why they're pretty appropriate to recommend to someone who's never played the series.
Also, I personally liked the "story" oriented map designs a lot. HoM&M3 was the first RPG I played, no lie. :^)
>>333078631
It wasn't the first, it was third or fourth.
I understand the concept of easing the player into the game, believe me, but HC were below RoE in difficulty and RoE is already really really easy.
>HoMM
>RPG
remove yourself from the premises, barbarian
>>333078352
It's actually really good. Keeps the spirit of Homm gameplay despite animu. Surprisingly fun writing, especially during inferno campaign where you get to team up with a literal semen demon.
Bosses are pretty shifty though.
>>333078352
Good shit. Played 100h+ on the DS version. Try it out
>>333071771
7 is the best.
>>333078352
Surprisingly good, just don't think of it as (Ho)MM-related.
Also, necromancer guy with spiderweb cloak or whatever rapes fucking everything. At least on the DS. I've heard the PC port added some stuff so maybe it's no longer true there.
>>333078352
So what is the name of this game?
>>333081208
Clash of Heroes
