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>2016
>the xbox is now an example of a fast-loading game system
Fucking modern consoles are bullshit with their shitty updates and start-up times
>>333059604
Its just back to was it was like decades ago.
>>333059997
on what, arcade machine startups, or cassette readers?
I liked it better when consoles were about popping a game in then playing.
No long-ass loading, no menu navigation, no settings, no downloads, no updates, no DLC, no nothing.
Just pop that fucker in and play.
>>333060802
was thinking about cassette readers
>>333061628
Could be still possible today but the graphics would suck.
Xbox the best underrated console. The last good vidya machine.
>that ambient noise that gets increasingly spookier the longer you stay in the Xbox main menu
>>333061628
That's why I've held on to my gamecube for so long. It's beautifully simple.
>>333062094
Nice blog and memepost.
>>333059604
the ps2 was a fast startup too though, gamecube as well
all of them from that generation load faster than any console now, because it was still just pop it in and play
I owned both Xbox and PS2 back in 2003.
>>333061884
I'd disagree, but the N64 is still recognized as a pinnacle for certain game achievements, and the Sega CD just didn't have enough good games on it.
>>333062510
It's most amusing because the Xbox was probably the first 'forced' menu system for a popular console.
>>333062683
>It's most amusing because the Xbox was probably the first 'forced' menu system for a popular console.
did you ever use an xbox? its just put the disk in and play... you can use the system without ever seeing the menu once.
and if you want to go back to it, the sega CD and ps1 had menu systems as well
>>333062683
>a pinnacle for certain game achievements
such as?
>>333062550
congratsimpressive
>>333062953
basically defined how 3D platforming and adventure games were done correctly
also had some fuckwin multiplayer games that did 4 players and didn't need a multi-tap.
>>333062910
my xbox always boots to menu first, maybe I missed a setting? it is used, I only got one a few years ago and mostly use it for steel battalion
>>333063850
it should boot to the game first, i dont even think there is a setting to make it boot into the menu over booting into a disc.
>>333063850
there is a setting.
go to the general settings and look for boot up settings, there should be a "direct play" or something option
>>333064247
cool, thanks for heads-up
>>333061628
>Buy ps2 game for 50 bucks
>Alright, time to play!
>Load game for a few seconds after the company logos
>Start playing game
>Buy ps4 game for 60 bucks
>Have to wait 20 minutes for the game to install
>Have to download 3 gig patch
>Get assaulted with constant DLC littered over the game
>"Whoa bro, you want to go online? You gotta pay up!"
>Make sure to get the season pass!
>>333066210
You have to admit onlinegaming wasnt even that much around in ps2/xbox times
>>333059604
>2016
>the commodore64 is now an example of a fast-loading game system
Fucking modern PCs are bullshit with their shitty updates and start-up times
>>333062121
>That's why I've held on to my gamecube for so long.
The Gamecube doesn't let you put in a game and start playing either. You have to sit through the Gamecube boot screen and a lot of game loading.
>>333066210
>>333066385
Also
>ps2/xbox game has glitches and bugs
>think its funny
>exploit it
>no one really cares
>ps4/xbone game has glitches and bugs
>even after installing 20 fucking gbs
>even after downloading 5 gb patches
>everyone shits all over the game (with good reason)
I mean come on, what the fuck has the new gen stuff done to gaming? Why the fuck are game devs so focused on pushing out new games rather than taking the time to make sure they're perfect?
I think PS3 had the perfect balance
>optional installs
>installing usually just lessened load times
>patches once in a while
>still big focus on quality
>free online play
Sucks that weren't more memorable titles on ps3 as there were on ps2/xbox.
>>333067326
>Why the fuck are game devs so focused on pushing out new games rather than taking the time to make sure they're perfect?
Money. As long as people keep buying and preodering those games, it will be like that.
>Sucks that weren't more memorable titles on ps3 as there were on ps2/xbox.
I believe time will tell, in five or ten years we may see it differently.
>>333067501
true, I remember when people said that the 6th gen was the worst thing yet to happen to video games.
>>333066210
It's funny that consoles and PCs are basically the same now, but while the PCs went forward over the years, consoles went backwards.
>buy a PC game in 2002
>install game
>forces you to reinstall your DX drivers
>install whatever proprietary audio codec middleware was necessary
>install whatever multiplayer provider middleware was necessary
>go to library with a bunch of floppy discs to download the patch so that the game doesn't crash at a certain point because you don't want to restart your playthrough to avoid that thing
>the patch makes your saves incompatible anyway
>go back to the library to download the crudely made nude patch
Now it's just
>press download on steam
>sadpanda yourself while the game downloads, installs and patches itself
A Xenium chipped OG Xbox was probably my favorite console of all time. 'Huge' 500GB hard drive, I burned games from disc, FTPd movies and music into XBMC, ran all emulators up to CPS3 flawlessly. 2003 was a great year. I kept it around for 8 years and it functioned as my media center without a hitch.
>>333067326
Part of the problem with fixing bugs on consoles is that patches have to be certified before they can be rolled out which delays everything, on PC if there's a problem they can hotfix it if they please or release the patch whenever but with consoles you have to keep that certification step in mind. Also I'm not 100% sure on this but I've heard that devs/publishers have to pay to patch their games.
>>333067923
what'd you do with it after that?
I've been wanting to mod an xbox but don't want to sacrifice a controller just to make a USB stick adapter
>>333067084
>The Gamecube doesn't let you put in a game and start playing either. You have to sit through the Gamecube boot screen and a lot of game loading.
You mean like literally every console ever?
>>333067923
I wish those old consoles had a digital output, not just analog. I just can't bring myself to suffer the terrible flickering of CRT TVs.
Seriously why did the retards only make them 50/60Hz, when most monitors went up to 150 at the TV resolution?
>>333068079
Gave it to my cousin. Pretty sure its still working. It couldn't handle X264 or HD content so I built a new PC.
>>333062683
>Sega CD just didn't have enough good games on it
It was an addon so it didn't have as many games as a console by itself. It does have many damn good games though. But wait. What does the Sega CD have to do with the N64 or Xbox?
>>333067756
> while the game you don't own downloads, installs and patches itself
Fixed.
>Xbox on Instant On Settings
>Turn on controller
>GTA V is right where I left it
Wow dude that 30 second wait was unbearable. It especially sucks when updates and patches install while I'm asleep or not using the console. Damn man I wish I could sit through the Xbox logo screen that made things quicker.
>>333066385
Speak for yourself underage
>>333066385
yeah and it was FUCKING GREAT
>>333069268
>sega
>>333068526
Because of weird broadcast standards I reckon
>>333069154
Nobody has an xbone
Ps4 on the other hand is shit
>go to friend's house
>another friend lent him Fifa 16
>his ocd/trophy addiction gets triggered and he starts getting all the trophies regerdless
>fucking eternal load times
>game has massive fps drops while going through ultimate team cards
Ps4 is bullshit
>>333069268
Seganet was never mainstream. It was built-in to the Dreamcast, yes, but it required a salty subscription in most countries.
PS4 is really fucking fast though
Rest Mode is something that older consoles lack
Also every singleplayer game on PS4 that does not need an update is literally pop'n'play like The Last of Us & Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes, the entire 50 GB install lasts 5 seconds
Wii U is also pop-n-play for most of its library
Xbone is the only one that has slow ass installs and slow ass everything
>>333069742
>Wii U is also pop-n-play for most of its library
This is honestly very nice. Also the quick start menu is great.
>>333068735
Gimme some good Sega CD games that arent Sonic CD or Shining Force CD
>>333070192
Snatcher
Earthworm Jim
Ecco the Dolphin (both of them)
Final Fight CD
Robo Aleste
Lords of Thunder
both Lunar RPGs
Silpheed
Soul Star
The Terminator
Popful Mail
Vay
>>333070483
>good games
>games on this list
choose one
>>333070553
Are you insane or just shitposting?
>>333070643
Insanely shitposting
>>333068186
>You mean like literally every console ever?
No, I mean like every console since 3D graphics became mainstream. I know you're underage, but there was a time when you'd put a game into a system, turn the system on, and the game would boot immediately to the title screen.
>>333070483
Hmm Lunar seems cool, might get that
>>333061628
It's crazy that even the PS3 had an autoplay function turned on by default. Now you HAVE to go to a menu on the PS4.
>>333070848
People born in 1998 are 18 now. They can legally watch Hentai now.
>>333070998
>Implying that ever stopped me
>>333061779
the graphics and performance would be a lot better actually, since the system's resources won't be wasted on an extensive operating system that's constantly running.
>>333062352
nice obvious sony worship and defense
that xbox menu was tight as fuck
much better than anything sony could produce
the xbox library was also better than PS2
you might think this is crazy, but its actually true
>>333071709
your post made me cringe
>>333062352
trying way too hard
>fun cheat codes gone forever
>even in singeplayer games like gta they've been dumbed down
>like seriously, you cant even make yourself permanently immune or have infinite ammo/cash in gta V singleplayer
>>333066385
Yes it was. SOCOM made console online gaming super popular. Then when microsoft went from xbox connect to xbox live with halo 2 it went super popular with all the dudebros.
>>333072315
>playing with cheat codes
You probably like Game-Modding too.
>>333072409
For singleplayer games yeah
Sandbox games should be sandbox games if you want them to be, not simulators
>>333071367
OS overhead is a lot smaller than you think and getting smaller every year.
>>333068735
the topic was underrated consoles
PC Engine is hugely underrated anywhere that isn't Japan
>>333072957
Alright, that makes sense.
>>333072315
muh achievements tho
>>333072315
I still remember getting those big cheat code books with tons of info and some had almost full guides for games with all the hidden secrets listed.
I found one at the store the other day it's nothing but achievements lists
>>333069742
rest mode is something that old consoles didn't need because they were faster than it anyway.
>every singleplayer game on PS4 that does not need an update
which is exactly 0 because they always have updates unless you play it on a daily basis, then you miss out on eternal update madness.
>>333072957
What is the PC Engine's essential titles?
>>333062121
Gamecube did load mega fest
>>333070483
is Cadillacs and Dinosaurs on CD any good?
Keio Flying Squadron is a good one too.
>>333066637
shorter than a PS2 these days, nice try family
>Have to wait 3 hours for every PS4 game to download first
What the fuck is the disc even for? Does it even contain any of the game's content?
>>333073756
>Cadillacs and Dinosaurs
Haven't played that one.
>Keio Flying Squadron is a good one too
True.
>>333069742
Wii U is a load of balls. You can't even access the god damn store without the tablet and I can tell you right now that tablet won't work in 5 years thanks to it's laughably terrible battery. And thanks to Nintendo not allowing us to buy new Wii U tablets it will become more obsolete than shit like the neo geo did. It'll be literally unplayable soon
>>333073470
I'm no expert on the platform so I'd defer to those who are. Try asking on /vr/ for more detailed response, there are some engineheads over there that can give you the scoop.
>>333074164
It's another port of a capcom beat'em up so I don't see why it wouldn't be as good as FFCD.
I have to remember how to convert stuff to ISOs because my CD game downloads are all in the wrong format right now, or else I'd know if it was a good port or not. I'm also looking forward to trying Sensible Soccer on CD, never played any version of it but I bet it'll be a good one.
>>333074464
>It'll be literally unplayable soon
I really wish people would stop abusing the word "literally".
>>333062094
>replacing the [ key
for what purpose
>>333074771
and I wish people wouldn't bitch when it's used right, the system literally will become unplayable outside of Hyrule Warriors and most of 3D World. Smash 4 also supports other controllers but smash 4 is already unplayable :^)
>>333075140
you could just keep the thing plugged in forever you know
it doesn't even obstruct motion that much
>>333059604
I had a ps2 growing up because I thought xbox had only rated M games.
>>333073963
I honestly think it's just a DRM at this point.
>>333061884
the last good local multiplayer machine.
>>333068079
buy one off ebay for like $4 then. they're also on amazon for a bit more but you'd get it faster than having it come from china.
>>333072347
>socom wasn't dudebro
this delusion
>>333068079
Either buy a USB adaptor, or do the HDD swap trick
>>333075812
what did xbox have over gamecube for local play? halo was literally the only game I was ever invited to play on OG xbox, I saw other games played like fusion frenzy or crimson skies, but not like halo was played.
>>333076086
a major thing it has over the gamecube is widespread LAN support.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_System_Link_games
the 360 had some support too but it quickly fell off with online being more popular. that's why i say it's the last good local multiplayer machine and probably the best local multiplayer machine period.
>>333076615
I've never seen anyone use system link with any console ever. The requirements of multiple consoles and multiple TVs is just ridiculous, especially in the CRT era.
>>333076086
Splinter Cell co-op and spies vs mercs modes were great on system link if you didn't have Live. Doom 3 co-op as well.
>>333063217
What do games themselves have to do with hardware?
>>333076914
I dunno if it'd be possible to system link with PCs and have a LAN party that way.
LAN parties are a thing, they're fun as fuck.
>>333068035
>I've heard that devs/publishers have to pay to patch their games
That's true, it's part of the reason Gears of war 2 had tons of bugs and glitches left unfixed even after 6 updates.
Back then, MS had a 4MB limit for patches and hotfixes, it was so bad that EA started delivering their patches through the marketplace instead of using MS updates.
>>333073963
>Have to wait 3 hours for every PS4 game to download first
Stop buying games by Ubisoft senpai.
>>333067326
>Quality
>Ever the focus of videogames
It's always been money first.
>>333068960
Where the hell I find the source code for sm4sh I am sure I could pay some people and port it on PC but I suppose somebody is already doing that.
>>333076914
>I've never seen anyone use system link with any console ever.
congratulations. however this doesn't change the fact that xbox is a better local multiplayer machine than the gamecube because it offers more and better local multiplayer options. it doesn't require system linking btw. it still has split screen options in most games although system link is local multiplayer master race.
>>333067756
>Can't control patch downloads on Steam or downgrade if wanted
Sure is progress right there.
>>333077713
>xbox is a better local multiplayer machine than the gamecube because it offers more and better local multiplayer options
No, the system with better multiplayer games is the better multiplayer system. And the GC has Melee in addition to both Timesplitters games.
>>333076914
>no more left 4 dead or halo lan parties
shame really
>>333077843
>lists 3 games
weren't you the one criticizing the xbox earlier because you only saw people play halo on it? also the xbox has better versions of those timesplitters games with system link options as well. you sure know your stuff. it's not like you should quit while you're behind or anything.
you've resorted to disputing facts with personal preference.
>>333068526
What you want is YPrPb to XRGB-mini and hook that son of a bitch to a mememeister and wallah, original Xbox in true RGB 1080p.
Would an Xbox be worth getting? I already have a PS2, but I'm getting some nostalgia for some of those old Xbox exclusives
>>333078328
I can post a picture of my Xbox collection to prove my point. That doesn't also stop the fact that I use my Gamecube for multiplayer much more than my Xbox.
>>333061628
That's what the 360 is for
>>333078647
Since Xbox emulation seems impossible, you might as well go for it, i suggest you try Kingdoms under fire Crusaders and Heroes, they arefun
>>333068526
Are you dumb? The original Xbox can output 480p with almost every game via component, making it play natively without upscaling on modern HDTVs.
>>333078602
Using the framemeister to upscale already good resolution games is a waste of money and only introduces minor upgrades for a notable latency increase. The framemeister is for upscaling 240p games first and foremost, that means everything before the 6th gen.
>>333078670
It wouldn't prove a point at all. I have both systems as well and haven't felt the need to fall back on that because I have a real point other than "I prefer it". Good for you. It's still inferior due to not having many games that support LAN like the Xbox does.
>>333078670
You have a mental disorder. It's called "I like Super Smash Bros. Melee".
Your opinion is a priori invalid.
>>333059997
>>333061679
>yuropoors grew up with those
i laugh at you all every time
>>333078647
Xboxes are cheap and emulation is impossible. They're easily hackable so you can explore those hard-to-get games like Metal Wolf Chaos. Do it, anon.
>>333079027
>>333079097
You both are wrong and have shit taste in video games in general.
If the Xbox Hueg is the most modded console in video games, why is it so hard to emulate? Couldn't you figure out the traces in the APU by using a conductivity reader?
>>333078647
Depends. It's a fine console. But look up which exclusives would also play on the 360, so you know it's worth it.
>>333079217
I love the smell of butthurt. Go on, finish the other steps of grief. Your denial has been a controversial success.
>>333079452
The only denial I'm detecting is you regarding your taste.
>>333062683
>It's most amusing because the Xbox was probably the first 'forced' menu system for a popular console.
The Xbox didn't have a menu. If there was a DVD on the tray it played the game straight away. The original dashboard was just for managing your save games and Xbox Live account.
With softmodded Xboxes, the dash has 10 times more options and you could start the game from the dash or start games from inside your hard drive, but still, if a DVD was on the drive, it was played straight away, no menu, no nothing.
>>333067326
>Sucks that weren't more memorable titles on ps3 as there were on ps2/xbox.
Really there weren't that many memorable games in that gen as a hole regardless of what system you had.
>>333074464
>>333075140
>used literally right
I plugged it into the wall and now I'm playing it, looks like you're fucking dumb
>>333067756
>go to store
>buy game
>have the disc
>can install it and uninstall it as I want and don't need online to do it
>when I want to play the game only it opens and nothing else
>go to store
>buy game
>just a bit of paper in the box with a steam code on it
>need an internet connection to install it
>if I ever need extra space and have to uninstall it then I need to go online to reinstall it again
>need to have steam to play it which is just unnecessary bloat
>not to mention the DRM and how it scans your PC for shit
>can't turn off updates or downgrade to an earlier version if I want either
Sure I can just hit install, wait for it to do its thing, then hit play once it's finished. But if anything steam has just consolized PC games. If I ever had to install a game and update things like was normal before steam, I probably wouldn't be able to do it since it's been so long since I've had to I've forgotten. This shit ain't like riding a bike.
>>333069742
>Xbone is the only one that has slow ass installs and slow ass everything
The November update really sped things up, but I agree that games take an unreasonably long time, The Witcher 3 took literal hours. Luckily quite a few games let you in once it hits a certain point and the rest installs as you play.
>>333071709
>the xbox library was also better than PS2
Xbox had Halo, Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Crimson Skies, and then the rest were just multiplates. Whoopity fucking doo.
>>333072315
>current gta
>single player
Pfff, that shit's tacked on. Focus is on online now grandpa.
Can we all just agree that both the Xbone and PS4 are shit and the only real difference between them are the colors blue and green?
>>333081280
Sega exclusives nigger.
>>333076914
>The requirements of multiple consoles and multiple TVs is just ridiculous, especially in the CRT era.
You didn't have one person own all that shit. You brought your Xbox and a TV with you and linked it up with your friends who all brought their own as well.
And the Gamecube was capable of Lan, but it required an adapter that plugged into the bottom of the console.
>>333081625
Honestly I can't understand how the console wars can keep going with them. You could argue free online and the 360 eating discs with PS3vs360 but looking at this gen it's like looking at two identical squares and everyone fighting over which one is better.
>>333079424
>look up which exclusives would also play on the 360
I remember hearing somewhere that M$ can actually change what games are compatible with system updates. And that they released one to make the original Halo games not work on 360 to encourage sales of the HD remakes. This bullshit or is there some fact behind it?
>>333079718
>The Xbox didn't have a menu.
Yes it did. Read the thread.
>>333059604
Did you never play Morrowind on it
>>333081731
Those are a con, not a pro.
>>333062094
I actually always found it quite comforting.
>>333078831
Have you played the 360 recently? It's so fucking bloated it takes 5 minutes to perform any action
It's obnoxiously slow
>>333082636
>Jet Set Radio Future, Outrun 2 and Panzer Dragoon Orta are bad
Too much useless fucking bloat
Shit I'd never imagine consoles becoming slower and complicated
Hell the PS3 was the console that started inspiring me to just say fuck it and get tired of before I even start the game. Dumb fucking updates.
>>333070848
Nothing boots up instantly. There is always a load time, no matter how minute.
>>333082707
Yes, your shitty sega games are bad. If they were good then sega would still be in the console market.
>>333082518
So did the PS2, PS1, Dreamcast, etc.
And i don't have to read the thread, because i have not only one Xbox, but three of them.
>>333082974
>>333072315
I was so fucking disappointed when the invincibility cheat was figured out and it only lasted 5 minutes, seriously fuck R* and their shitty MMO
>>333082339
Bullshit. Biggest thing to happen is Halo 2 losing it's servers.
>>333082636
>PS2 only had one game in 1080i
>Xbox had several 1080i games
>Xbox had several games where FPS was 60 compared to the PS2 versions 30
wew lad
>>333081280
PS2 had FFX, MGS3 and SH3, the rest is pure trash that is unplayable today.
>>333083578
Why SH2 runs at 60fps on Xbox but runs at 30 on PC? Japs cannot into programming or the Xbox version is newer?
>>333071709
Listen kid, either you can knock off the attitude RIGHT NOW or I will take matter into my own hands and make sure you never EVER post here again. This is your one and only warning. DON'T TICK ME OFF
>>333083909
PC port was based off PS2 version. PC ports back then were more about targeting low spec e-machine tier hardware. 30FPS locks were common so it just worked. xbox didn't have the limitation and was also a gen ahead of PC cards at the time of release.
>>333059604
Do modern consoles have anything as bad as Morrowind yet when it comes to load times?
>>333084297
Yes, it's called booting up.
>>333066210
Holy fucking shit this, I hate the fuck out of my PS3 because LITERALLY every time I want to use it is;
>Turn on PS3
>Wait for boot up sequence
>SYSTEM UPDATE REQUIRED
>have to update
>Wait for update to download, then again, then install, then restart
>PS SHOP UPDATE REQUIRED
>Same deal
>SYSTEM UPDATE REQUIRED
>are you serious, why can't they just roll updated together
>GAME UPDATE REQUIRED
>fuck it I'll just got and play something else instead
The Wii U got it right, updates ready themselves while the console sleeps and you can skip patches if you want.
>>333059604
HDD read speeds are one of those things that improves very very slowly. Meanwhile games can render more and more object and textures at once, as well as higher res textures. These take longer to load.
It's fairly natural the load times slowly climb as the other hardware improves and the HDD stays the same. SSD will help a bit, but it has the same issue of not improving very fast.
>>333084563
Not sure about Xbone, but the PS4 boots very quickly.
Load times for many games are atrocious, but the boot time is very low.
>>333084039
cum@meBR0
>>333086149
>not just going on offline mode
>>333079308
It's lack of documentation and unique hardware makes it a programmer's nightmare.
It's like trying to shoot a thimble in the middle of a blackout while blindfolded. Possible, but insanely difficult.
No one who could potentially make a good one actually wants to commit to making an emulator.
It's a shame Microsoft wouldn't just make their own emulator for the sake of archival purposes.
(Though, given the state of the 360's xbox BC, even they probably would struggle as well)
>Have a dresser full of xbox games.
>molded my xbox to be an arcade emulation machine
Fuck I gotta buy another xbox.
>>333061628
Shit like this makes owning a console less and less palpable. They've basically just become shitty PCs.
>>333067326
>Why the fuck are game devs so focused on pushing out new games rather than taking the time to make sure they're perfect?
You have to realize that you have a whole generation of teenagers and early adults(early 20s) that are used to the fuckery and know no better.
Like that dude Richard from review tech said, you have kids who grew up with an almost 10 year console run (ps3, xbox 360 especially) so lets say you're 8 when the ps4/xb1 came out you'd be 16.
These kids didn't know a day when the game was shit or good if it launched with hiccups and you weren't getting a patch either. So good devs got shit right and shit games were shit games.
Oh and you got your full game on disc.
Today's console gaming is like going to the restaurant buying a combo and then the server telling you hey here's the fries come back in like 5 hours for the burger but then charing me for the whole combo upfront
>>333071709
>xbox library was better than the ps2
How can anyone unironically post shit like this and expect to get taken seriously.
>>333088453
Quality over quantity.
>have an xbox HUGE
>would like to mod it
>don't know anyone that'd be able to
>would do it myself but I have a very bad record with modding hardware
>>333088267
This
Video games are now overrun with 7th gen piles of trash that know nothing of past generations, know nothing of past video games, AAA hype is all they know and they have no standards of quality or even basic shit like being aware of consumer rights. Video games are the only entertainment medium in the world where the majority of the people who are in it don't give a fuck and actively condemn the past history of it.
>>333088743
You don't need to mod hardware. It's all in software.
>Buy Xbox controller to USB adaptor
>Buy Splinter Cell or other exploit game
>Copy savegame to Xbox and run it
>???
>Softmod
>>333088267
I'd say it's more like:
>games back then: Burger with fries, salad, and special sauce. Sometimes throw an extra burger in to suprise and delight you.
>regular game nowadays: You get burger in a bun. Mostly cooked to a standard level of satisfaction. Salad, fries, and sauce are DLC extras available either right away or long after the burger is cold and half-eaten
>Free to play mobile shit: You get a burger, but you only get to take a bite out of it every few hours, unless you pay. Fries, salad, and sauce is bought per unit.
>>333088712
>Halo
>Ninja Gaiden Black
>Crimson Skies
>over literally hundreds of top notch video games available on the PS2
Nah man, just stop talking.
>>333088743
Soldering the chip is a pain, but these days most people simply softmod it with a gamesave hack that works on some old games.
Man, so much misinfo ITT. I'll just say the Xbox Hueg was easily hackable, had a lot of great exclusives despite people thinking it only had Halo, had the best versions of multiplats that gen, had online and LAN for better local multiplayer, and had a menu system that only loaded up with no disc inserted (just like the rest of 6th gen).
That said, the entire 6th gen was golden. Probably the best era to be idort. PS2, GameCube, Xbox, and Dreamcast all had great games, and all were hackable.
>>333087784
The thing with 360's BC is that the 360 was PowerPC and the Xbox Hueg is x86. So, code conversion was probably a bitch to get working right (hence the sheer lack of Xbox Originals).
They'd have far less issues if they just made an emulator for Xbone or PC, as these are also x86.
>>333088865
I have a terrible record with softmodding as well. I've bricked so many things.
>>333089006
Bro, i have PCSX2 and the only shit i play is FFX.
I tried God Hand, i tried DMC3, i tried Yakuza, Shadow of Colossus. These games are so bad i can't even explain how you can play it, you guys just had low standards back in 2004 because games were all clunky since the PS1 era.
>>333089164
It's literally not that hard. I don't even see how someone could fuck up a softmodded (especially Wii), unless they were actively trying to sabotage themselves. It's all just reading a tutorial and basic common sense
>>333089381
I've bricked three wiis. I've learned to get other people to do modding shit for me.
>>333089354
>the only shit i play is FFX
worst taste on /v/ confirmed
BEST XBOX GAME
PANZER DRAGOON ORTA
YOU CAN ALL GO HOME NOW
>>333089451
But how though? You'd have to blatantly do the opposite of what the tutorials say in order to brick a Wii. And even then, you should've had a brick recovery tool like bootmii or priiloader
>>333089671
Wish I knew. I followed the instructions and the things just died.
>>333089354
>the PS2 didn't have the best library because I'm shit at video games and have terrible taste
If you have trouble with fucking PS2 games controls you may be functionally retarded, I'd love to see you play some 5th gen titles, were you even born then?. If you're complaining about God Hand and DMC3 controls I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't even touch Ninja Gaiden Black on the Xbox
You're shit at video games, your taste is shit, your stupid fucking opinion is wrong. Stop talking because you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and you're so bad at video games no one needs to be hearing your fucking dumbass opinions anyway.
>>333089815
>I'd love to see you play some 5th gen titles
That's exactly my point.
PS2 games are basically PS1 games with higher poly models, except they run at 20fps.
All Xbox games had vision and pushed the hardware to the limit. KOTOR, Far Cry Instincts, Halo, Doom 3, Fable, Half Life 2. Each had a unique set of ideas that were executed flawlessly.
>>333082010
I miss those crazy Halo CE LAN parties me and some dorks I worked with would have back in the day.
I had a big ol' Ford Bronco and we still had to CRAM two 32" TV's into the back.
>>333068079
>I've been wanting to mod an xbox but don't want to sacrifice a controller just to make a USB stick adapter
then sacrifice a cheap memory card.
>>333090419
>PS2 games are basically PS1 games with higher poly models, except they run at 20fps.
Name a PS1 game like San Andreas.
>>333090419
Fine, I'll take the bait, I don't care any more.
>All Xbox games had vision
and that vision was making money. Nothing else.
>>333068079
You can just buy a usb-to-xbox cord on ebay and use a flash drive.
>>333090779
GTA1 & 2, naturally
>>333086149
>LITERALLY every time I want to use it
it's your problem for not using it more often. it only updates a couple times a year now, if that.
>>333091075
I wasn't aware GTA 1 and 2 were part third person shooter.
>>333090419
>all these fucking pc games
literraly none of these are better on xbox
>>333091408
Overhead is still third-person
>>333090779
Urban Chaos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l9l3wdPdUw
>>333091536
Not him, but here's some actual exclusives
>Ninja Gaiden
>GunValkyrie
>Otogi
>Otogi 2
>Metal Wolf Chaos
>Dead or Alive 3
>Breakdown
>Brute Force
>Phantom Crash
>Voodoo Vince
>Blinx
>Blinx 2
>Toejam & Earl 3
>Phantom Dust
>Jet Set Radio Future
>Panzer Dragoon Orta
>Steel Battalion
>Raze's Hell
>Unreal Championship 2
>Deathrow
>>333091536
But they weren't on PS2 because of it's crappy hardware. And if you had a PS2 back then, you surely weren't a PC gamer. So while Xbox gamers did get to play those games, PS2fags were stuck with Half Life 1 port.
>>333092121
>no Conker Live and Reloaded
Bruh.
>>333092720
Everyone that cares about conker played it back on N64, some different textures doesn't make it a new game.
>>333092720
It's a remaster. Same reason I didn't list DOA Ultimate.
Also
>Xbox version is censored
>N64 version isn't
>>333084039
LOL FUCK OFF NIGGER I AM THE GOVERNMENT WATCHING YOU
DONT EVEN GIVE A FUCK IF OTHER PEOPLE ON FACEBOOK SEE ME WARNING YOUR SHIT
FALL BACK IN LINE, SCUM
>>333090419
>ps2 games are ps1 games blah blah
nigga shut up
>>333092879
>>333092894
It's a remake. It's like saying Resident Evil remake just has updated backgrounds and everyone who cared about RE played it on PS1 first.
Dead or Alive Ultimate was completely remade as well. The models are using geometry and shaders from DOA3, the moves and animations are from DOA3 as well.
My biggest problem with the Xbone is the UI. They boast about how it lets you play games while doing other things but what if all you want to do is play games and use party functions and similar things? The more I look at it the more I see that it really doesn't do much more than a 360 in terms of seamless transition if all you do is play games and use friends functions, it's just faster but not as fast as it could be if it didn't have a bunch of menu categories running I never use.
>>333088267
I had to explain to someone once that Fallout 4 doesn't get "content updates" like an early access game or something like that, and that new stuff would come with "expansion packs". They thought every update would add some new guns or a couple enemies and things like that. Made me think how differently people view dlc now, it's fucked.
>>333077383
This is why nintendo is never the top seller. Quality still means something to them.
Granted they have their problems but their flagship games always run and play extremelly well when compaired to the AAA stuff on xbox/ps.
