Say what you want about FF13-2, but it has one of the best vocal tracks in video games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w45JNgQgijc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfmupLRxxM8
>>333037881
The only thing good about XIII-2 was Serah's boobs.
>not my hands
>>333038116
That wasn't even made for the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPEzumonJv4
Of course they're good, they're sung by Origa
R.I.P.
The whole soundtrack was golden.
Maybe not to the flawless level that some hold FF's various soundtracks,
But it was so damn chill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPEzumonJv4
>indistinct ambient pop
>children's song vocals
>couple token nu-metal tracks for bosses
I can't take people who praise XIII-2's OST seriously.
>>333038635
too slow
>>333038780
Red Chocobo song?
>>333038567
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPEzumonJv4
>>333038635
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPEzumonJv4
I have no intentions on buying FFXIII-2 but you better believe I have this song locked as my theme song. This song can be applied to literally EVERYTHING in everyday life. I gotta have my fix of it every week. New Bodhum should be a new staple song for Final Fantasy games like Prelude honestly.
RIP Origa.
>that lack of ass
holy crap I thought it was just a meme
bitch's flatter than Plank
>>333037881
sure, if you like fuccboi music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUyAPNzRa2E
1:00
>that buildup showing Cocoon's amazing structures
>that Final Fantasy adventure and magic
>actual character interactions unlike FF12
Prelude is the best theme in Final Fantasy.
>>333037881
I honestly really liked 13-2, it was miles above 13 but no one will ever play it. Feels bad man
>>333039874
I liked it, it was more comfy
Some of the DLC bosses were a bitch tho. Mostly cause you had to grind your monster
Paradigm Shift is god-tier.
>>333039949
I actually never got the DLC, I had no internet at the time and then I never got around to getting it, I might get it for PC now and do it there.
>>333040030
I just pirated it
>>333040174
this was back in the day on the PS3, weird to say that lol
FF13-2 is the only Final Fantasy I was unable to finish
It gets unbearable towards the end
Serah and Noel have zero personality
>>333040625
well personally, I finished XIII-2 maybe a year ago or less
>>333037881
DO IT
DO IT
Have they fixed the PC version yet? All I know is the framerate goes to single digits when the minimap is open
>>333041000
nope, played it some months ago and it still has dogshit performance
If there's one thing I won't begrudge the XIII trilogy it's the music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvohXgIKTgU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNFkGiP0dZw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLsCWr8VFo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDPV_2_brck
>>333041142
Fucking hell, bravo square
>>333041167
I thought I hated XIII but listening to these i realise i do have good memories attached to it. I did enjoy some parts
>people don't like XIII-2
shit taste
got 100% but the colosseum is hard. first game where Omega isn't that hard though.
SO YOU THINK YOU CAN RIDE THIS CHOCOBO?
I didn't like 13-2 that much but the soundtrack is phenomenal, I'm glad I got the special edition.
>>333037881
you haven't been playing videogames long then.
Shit taste going on here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEEcKCh-Yx4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzCsfqKgGJE
How do you guys even miss the two best songs in the soundtrack
>>333038110
The 13 games sound like complete white noise to me.
>That first time you get to 700 AF
>>333041434
Is the DLC worth it? I know Lightning and one other character are supposed to be obscenely overpowered when infused, but other than that it seems like the character missions are super short and most of the cosmetic stuff isn't that great.
FF13-2 is the best in the 13 series.
Best girl is Serah. Best FF game over all.
>>333041635
Same here. There's only two songs on the entire soundtrack that i don't like. Can't remember what they're called but it's the first two songs on disc two.
Say what you want but OP has shit taste
>>333043683
lets go on a date
It doesn't compete with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqoeVm5fZuQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN9ulQ2P9Qg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLvyGLOLnuk
Also FF 13-2 wasn't bad at all, it's just that FF 13 and LR were better.
>>333044357
How could XIII be better than XIII-2?
XIII-2 was an improvement in every aspect.
>>333044357
>it's just that FF 13 was better
>>333044512
>XIII-2 was an improvement in every aspect.
Postgame was kind of disappointing in comparison to XIII. You actually had to have certain strategies to beat some of the endgame stuff in XIII, but in 2 you only really need a strategy for those guys in dusty weather on the Archylte Steppe that have a barrier that only get .1% chain a hit(Which you can also bypass just by killing Ochu and that one mech thing in the Archylte Steppe that gives you Chain Bonus 5 weapons).
Almost all the bosses could be beaten just with a properly infused Chichu with barely any care for strategy, and even that one super boss that gives you a trophy for beating it is basically just staggering it and having Chichu do like 60k x 4 every second.
>>333044940
You didn't play the DLC, did you?
>>333044512
I didn't like the 'your third party member is a monster aspect'
Lightning is the best character in the trilogy and was way more interesting than Serah and the story in general was a lot better in 13. Graphically it also wasn't much of an improvement. The story was more convoluted in 13-2. Doing the Cie'th Stone missions was also a lot more fun than anything in FF 13-2, so were the Titan Trials. Grand Pulse in 13 also trumps any map in 13-2.
The only people I see who like 13-2 more than 13 are massive waifufags. 13-2 barely ''Improved'' on anything. But it was good enough to play through once.
>>333045407
I only have the base game, so nope. I know some of the Coliseum is pretty tough, but for the base game there's nothing difficult at all.
>>333045473
So thirsty for a (You)
>>333045597
So thristy to dissolve shitty opinions.
>>333045473
>The only people I see who like 13-2 more than 13 are massive waifufags
But XIII-2 didn't have nearly as much waifu material as XIII
>>333045893
Even if, how does 13-2 improve on anything that isn't mostly irrelevant. Especially story and character wise, that's where 13-2 absolutely fails in comparison.
>>333044357
>Also FF 13-2 wasn't bad at all, it's just that FF 13 and LR were better.
This. While XIII-2 was a major improvement in gameplay and exploration, the whole monster collecting business was meh. Also it was way easier than XIII and had less post game content. And the story was complete shit.
LR has a terrible story too, but that one has 10/10 gameplay.
XIII-2 has the best unique music though. Like Run and New Bodhum.
SEX FOR BUILT
X-2's badass final boss wasted on such a shitty game.
>>333046193
>LR has 10/10 gameplay
>Playing an entire game with a time limit
>10/10
Even reddit has better opinions than this
>>333037881
Music is literally the least important aspect of a video game. No need to argue about how good it is is since it ain't gonna change shit.
>>333046668
>Music is literally the least important aspect of a video game. No need to argue about how good it is is since it ain't gonna change shit.
Wew lad
>>333046501
Just cause you play the game on a time limit doesn't mean that the gameplay isn't excellent. Besides, later in game you'll get handed out EP like candy. With that you can spam chronostasis.
Besides, LR has a huge amount of replay value.
>>333046327
What do you mean with wasted? Vagnagun was a bit pathetic, but they did the Shuyin fight rather well.Even if it was just a copy of Tidus that goes down easy if you're above LVL 50
>>333037881
the entire soundtrack was excellent, and the game was surprisingly enough good too.
It's been so long.
>>333046501
The time limit is pointless. You can do literally everything and still have 2 or 3 days to burn until the final day. It's not the game's fault you're so shitty.
>>333046668
>literally the least important aspect of a video game
You mean graphics, right?
>>333041603
EVERYBODY'S GONNA WANNA RIDE YOUR CHOCOBO
>>333041603
>>333048157
>>333046789
Great argument
>>333045893
Alyssa and Chocolina were pretty good.
>time limit was pointless
spot the guy who didn't do the extinction quest
>didn't like monsters aspect
you can choose not to use them you know, makes the last boss a bit more fun. plus you have to solo to do a few things.
>Alyssa
my african american bro.
>>333047254
Where's my sequel to X-2?
I wanna play a game with Tidus, Shuyin, Lenne and Yuna together
>>333037881
>thinking these are the best Vocal tracks in a game
>thinking they're even the best vocal tracks in Final Fantasy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLCWCPyxByg
>>333049226
I think Tetsuya Nomura is working on some project. We can only hope it's FF X-3. FF X-2 has the best gameplay in the series, I want to see that being continued again with the wonderful implement of the job system.
>>333049226
>I wanna play a game with Tidus, Shuyin, Lenne and Yuna together
You know what X-3 is actually going to be anon? You know about the blitzball bomb and necrophilia Yuna right?
>>333046520
I want to defile Lightning!
>>333049872
Hope please.
>>333038116
This is why Lightning sucks. She goes around punching men but EXPECTS them to not hit back due to chivalry. And by this I mean Toriyama thinks bitches should behave like cunts, but never suffer consequences for it. That man may love his waifu, but I doubt he has a penis. He HAS to be a proud eunuch.
>>333049226
Where's my prequel to X? X-0?
I want to play Braska, Jecht and Auron on Braska's pilgrimage.
>>333037881
XIII-2 is objectively a better time traveling game than Chrono Trigger.
>>333050071
>She goes around punching men but EXPECTS them to not hit back due to chivalry.
No, she doesn't and she never stated so. The other people around her are just dorks or pussies.
>>333050226
Only bad thing about that would be that we already know a lot about how the pilgramage went down. But if they were to do this, then they'd have to add a lot of extra content such as side missions into it. But if they do that, it would be great.
>>333050335
it's the UNSPOKEN cultural expectation of "Men Should NEVER Hit Vaginas" that's what I mean. And to that I say, fuck that shit. Better to be the "asshole" who beats up bitches than be a pussy, as you put it, who gets his ass handed by twats. If you're going to be seen poorly regardless? Then be seen poorly as a victor with self-respect.
no tits no ass : the game
>>333050606
I agree with you, but Snow, per-se, isn't the person to do that. And if he wear to hit her he would get his ass handed to him just like in Lightning Returns, because Lightning is not like a princess who would be shocked about being hit by anyone, she would just kick said persons ass which I do like about her.
>>333037881
13-2 was by far the best game of the trilogy though.
>>333038110
Her butt and armpits were both more interesting though.
>>333043060
But you didn't even post the best song. For fuck's sake, nobody's posted the best song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49rw1E3unMA
>>333043683
>Best FF game over all.
It would be a genuine contender if not for the cliffhanger sequel hook ending.
Really, the game's biggest flaws are that it's tied in with 13 and LR. Noel was a great character, and Caius is one of the best villains of the entire franchise.
>>333044940
I never had a Chichu. It's your own fault for cheesing it.
>>333051260
>Caius is one of the best villains of the entire franchise.
He's more like an anti-hero, though. And sadly not as good as Sephiroth.
>>333045473
>Lightning is the best character in the trilogy and was way more interesting than Serah and the story in general was a lot better in 13.
>The story was more convoluted in 13-2.
>Doing the Cie'th Stone missions was also a lot more fun than anything in FF 13-2
>Grand Pulse in 13 also trumps any map in 13-2.
>>333050865
Ah yes thing about characters like Lightning who are "empowered" is that she's tough only because the writer says she is. And of course as far as male characters go, it's always convenient how male writers write "tough females" and surround them with emasculated loser faggot males like Snow who take their BS.
I don't care if Snow has muscles and looks like he could crack a dam with a punch, everything else about his mentality and emotional state scream EMASCULATED. So that means he's safe to have around Lightning as he's a proud punching bag.
I would love to see Lightning try that shit with a male character who is going to cut off her bitch head and put it on a spear to decorate his home. So tired of the obvious Girl Power shit. Usually the makers of these are emasculated faggot mangina men like Toriyama who fantasize that tough women also somehow fall in LOVE with weak pathetic simp beta males like himself.
If "waifus" became real and had authentic individual personalities the first thing they would do is be repulsed by beta males who worship them and go for the same guys normal women love. Toriyama would be left behind.
>>333051421
Did, did she hurt you?
>>333046193
>LR has a terrible story too, but that one has 10/10 gameplay.
You must be fucking joking.
>>333046501
The time limit is the least of LR's problems. Hell, the time limit is one of the better ideas, but it's completely pointless by the time you hit day 4 and can kill 2 EP monsters with ease and prolong time indefinitely with Chronostasis.
LR's combat is fairly decent at its core but the game is utter shit in everything that isn't combat, especially with it being nothing but "tiny sidequests: the game", along with all the MMO shit on the quest board. And the combat's enjoyment is completely drained dry by the godawful grinding required to make everything extinct.
>>333046038
Noel and Caius are better characters than the entirety of the XIII cast, and the dynamic/love triangle between the two of them and Yeul is the only interesting thing plotwise in the whole trilogy.
>>333051416
Oh wow, caught the moe-fag.
>>333051662
But I'm not a Lightning fan.
>>333051421
She tried that shit on Raines at the end of Chapter 10.
Raines threw her with one hand and took her gunblade.
>>333051838
Man Raines was great.
>>333046038
But 13's story is a retarded clusterfuck while 13-2's story is straightforward and the characters have relatable and believable motivations. LR's story was fairly simple but not very interesting or well told.
After playing through LR with the jap voices, I really wish I'd gone through the entire trilogy that way. It's no wonder Lightning is reviled in the west when her dub actor portrays a totally different character.
>>333050889
Well that too. Too bad there isn't much fan material of her.
>>333051657
That's subjective. And the whole story in general seemed good with 13, after 13 the games started to get more convoluted with paradoxes and other things such as the entire Chaos ordeal in Lightning Returns (which did make sense, at least).
I love the song in the first area when combat hits and the vocals change tenor. Unfortunately in most of the other areas, imminent combat just removes the vocals completely.
Currently in chapter 4 and the sunny Steppe music is my favorite so far.
My absolute beef with this game is the high random encounter rate (especially with an exploration/collection focus), and the stripped down combat compared to XIII.
>>333050865
I honestly think Snow would have completely wrecked Lightning if he really wanted to at that moment.
>200 cm man vs 171 cm woman
The power ranking for FF13 was probably something like:
>Fang
>Vanille
>Snow
>Lightning
>Sazh
>Hope
Fang fights off the other members at the ending so it's pretty clear that she was always a cut above the rest.
Gran Pulse humans are implied to be a lot stronger than Cocoon people. Even Vanille would have been able to take down Lightning. Gameplay wise, Lightning has less health than Vanille and Fang which implied that this was their power hierarchy.
>>333051421
>emasculated loser faggot males like Snow who take their BS.
She gives shit to everyone if they deserve it and Snow did kind of deserve that hit.
>I don't care if Snow has muscles and looks like he could crack a dam with a punch, everything else about his mentality and emotional state scream EMASCULATED. So that means he's safe to have around Lightning as he's a proud punching bag.
Well.... I can't argue with that.
>I would love to see Lightning try that shit with a male character who is going to cut off her bitch head and put it on a spear to decorate his home.
That would require someone pretty powerful, considering that she killed the god of her own universe.
>Usually the makers of these are emasculated faggot mangina men like Toriyama who fantasize that tough women also somehow fall in LOVE with weak pathetic simp beta males like himself.
Is that a reference to the Lightning x Hope thing going on? Cause I'm not a fan of it. They always just seemed like friends who grew closer to each other as the game progressed.
>>333052027
>But 13's story is a retarded clusterfuck
13's story is a retarded clusterfuck? It was the most straightforward game without being convoluted with the whole paradox thing.
>the characters have relatable and believable motivations
And in 13 they don't? That's what the purpose is given for. And you keep on finding out more and more as you progress through the game. The motives there are clear. I'm not saying this isn't the case with 13-2, because in both games the characters have perfect motivation to do what they are doing.
>LR's story was fairly simple but not very interesting or well told.
Well, it was the last entry in the trology and was supposed to end it as a whole.
>>333039334
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE. I THOUGHT.... I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE, MAN.
>>333037881
But that actually belongs to LR
http://youtu.be/JJISwauB9uM
http://youtu.be/D8mHjzSrHXg
http://youtu.be/kvF-E7hVGAc
http://youtu.be/tuE1vlACANA
And Noel's theme is better too
>>333052471
Heroes don't hit girls, especially not family members.
>>333043060
I don't see how people don't realize that Oerba Village is the best song in the trilogy.
>>333052471
>I honestly think Snow would have completely wrecked Lightning if he really wanted to at that moment.
Lightning is way faster than Snow and has a lot more combat experience. Remember that soldiers ass she kicked in a cutscene in chapter 3? It would've gone down something like that.
>Fang fights off the other members at the ending so it's pretty clear that she was always a cut above the rest.
Gran Pulse humans are implied to be a lot stronger than Cocoon people. Even Vanille would have been able to take down Lightning. Gameplay wise, Lightning has less health than Vanille and Fang which implied that this was their power hierarchy.
So basically what you're trying to tell me is that Lightning is not the strongest member of her team and doesn't deserve to act the way she does? She's a natural leader and who knows how the group would've ended up without her leadership abilities, that's why she has such a high and mighty act, but she still does ike the people in her group a lot and respects them, she's just allergic to bullshit. And having to put up with Hope's bullshit early on in the game, per se, is definitely annoying as Lightning would have to deal with suriving herself.
FF13 was better than FF13-2
>>333051338
It's not cheesing it, it's just using the system to make a decent monster companion. I just threw a bunch of Power items onto it and then infused a couple skills onto it. Even without the Chichu I had a 5000 ATK COM robot thing that was soaking up the damage and hitting three times per attack while bypassing any defense. Even prior to getting my Chichu I was massacring everything just with Noel and Serah. It was just way easier compared to XIII, at least on the base game.
>>333052790
>And in 13 they don't? That's what the purpose is given for. And you keep on finding out more and more as you progress through the game. The motives there are clear.
The characters in 13 spend most of the game getting strung along by coincidence while trying not to fulfil a vague focus until they then turn around and decide to fulfil it after all. The characters have some personal motivations, like wanting to save Serah or Sazh wanting to protect Dahj, but they're not particularly relevant to the overall quest which isn't particularly sensible until the last third.
In 13-2 you find out right away that Lightning has disappeared and Caius is trying to fuck up Valhalla, which are both main focal points for Serah and Noel going on their quest and throughout the quest you find answers to what's going on regarding Lightning and Caius which is linked to both Serah and Noel.
Comparatively 13's story feels more like a group of people that just got dumped into the situation by chance (Fang and Vanille being the exceptions) and most of what goes on throughout the game isn't particularly relevant to the overall plot of the fal'cie, it's just the characters bumbling around, and that's what makes the story of 13 hard for many people to follow.
>>333053532
Bruh, she only acts like a bitch because she's angry at herself. Snow is determined, Hope is vengeful, Sazh is wary, Vanille is scared, but Lightning is angry. She knows she's in the wrong so she lashes out. It's a human thing to do, which is why the cast is great: they're all realistic humans with human flaws and growth. Also, if they were to truly fight, they'd probably draw, kind of like the opening cutscene from LR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEUOOgNzOv4
>>333052452
>and the stripped down combat compared to XIII.
Dude, what? 13-2's combat is just an improved version of 13.
>>333049497
You mean Toriyama?
Yeah X-3 would be a blast
>>333049847
No
X-2.5 is retconned as a dream
>>333053896
It's like you people don't even get why they had to go through their journey in the first place. They had to gain the strength to become Ragnarok, ergo, they had to become strong enough to control their Eidolons. That's the whole point of their journey, to go through character growth and gain strength. If Bart had just told hem the truth, even had they agreed to do so, they would've not been strong enough to defeat Orphan. Even after going through the game they were barely strong enough to beat it and they needed Etro's help.
As long as Toriyama is in the FF Council, you guys better believe Lightning will continue to exist forevermore.
>>333054151
It being part of a plan doesn't change the way it plays out though.
>>333053973
>took out 80 percent of the the synth abilities
>severely gimped ultimate attacks
>unnecessary complicated crystarium
The only thing it did right was add an single/AoE attack option
So what are the chances of Lightning striking again in KH3?
>>333051421
Maybe Snow doesn't wanna beat up a girl he calls his sister
Snow isn't emasculated he acts like a cocky guy and Lightning's punch doesn't faze him
He's a tank, it's literally his job to stand there and take a beating without batting an eye
Just because you're a rage-filled dude doesn't mean you're "manly"
If you seriously have such a dumb understanding of human personality you're probably underage so gtfo
>>333054160
I wish he would stop pushing her in other games. She was fucking unbearable in Duodecim.
>GUYS THERE'S NO POINT FIGHTING BECAUSE THE CHAOS IS INVINCIBLE AND WE CAN'T WIN
>But if we give up we'll never know, right?
>FUCK YOU VAAN SHUT THE FUCK UP WE CAN'T WIN WE MAY AS WELL JUST KILL OURSELVES RIGHT HERE
>B-But shouldn't we at least die trying instead of giving up?
>GOD VAAN YOU'RE SUCH A STUPID FAGGOT WITH YOUR OPTIMISM AND HOPE AND RATIONAL BULLSHIT I FUCKING HATE YOU FUCK OFF
>>333054371
I think she replaces Sephiroth as the ultimate secret boss of the coliseum.
>>333054371
Hope Sora beats her up.
>>333053907
Maybe a bit moody because she couldn't save Serah. She still never gives up on her way unlike those around her who were close to, multiple times. She isn't angry with herself.
>>333054471
Bruh, judging from how she's in the prequel and the fight still continued after they "died", she was right.
>>333054341
>>unnecessary complicated crystarium
You must be joking. Don't tell me you enjoyed 13's one which was nothing but a glorified line.
>>333054001
>Tidus is a dream made real and he's died in a dream that was real but reborn in that dream the way he was reborn from the dream state in reality
It's too much for my little head.
>>333037881
>>333054593
Bruh, go on and explain the crystarium point bonus from 13-2 to me right now. You have a minute. Go on and try.
sunleth waterscape is my favorite music/zone
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kXl4pwzwSa8
>>333054643
Literally shit-tier boss when compared to GLORIOUS ORNSTEIN. Dragons deserve death.
>>333054591
Not only did it continue, they won
Kain and Light were right
Caius vs Kain in Dissidia when?
Liam vs O'Brien
>>333054675
Okay. You can get strength or magic bonuses from each node, which varies by the size and type of the node. You pick what to do use to either optimise a character for one trait or to try and get both characters at the highest mixed stats possible.
It's really not that complicated.
>>333054495
It'll probably be a standard 'Win the fight and you get a cutscene of both being perfectly fine and casually starting to talk' thing. Granted even the idea that Sora could keep up with Lightning might make Toriyama cry.
>>333054495
How old is Sora now, there could still be /ss/
>>333054495
Why would Sora beat up hishis mom?
>>333054952
Probably 18
>>333054814
Exactly. You have no idea what I'm talking about. Every other odd or even node, or some bullshit like every third node, you get a bonus based on what node you put in, but only if you use the right node, and it has to be the right crystarium. For example, for Noel, for the medic crytarium, every other third even node, you get an HP bonus if you use and HP node, but only if you also don't learn a new ability from that node. And every crytarium has a different node that gives a bonus and a different type of node that you use to get that bonus. I'm paraphrasing here but that's how fuckig complicated this shit was.
>>333054675
You get bonuses from each big node. COM gives a bonus to Attack, RAV gives a bonus to Magic, SEN and MED give a bonus to HP(Worthless), SYN gives a bonus on odds to Magic while on evens it gives a bonus to HP, and SAB gives a bonus to Attack on even numbers(So leveling the skill from 2 to 3 on will give you bonus on Attack) and on odds it gives a bonus to Magic(Leveling from 1 to 2 will give you a bonus on Magic).
The orbs that are smaller are utterly worthless and all give you the same set bonus, while the big ones determine how your build goes. If you do it properly you'll have 200-300 more of a stat than someone who just randomly assigned the orbs.
>>333054740
I prefer the XIII-2 version myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdDJ-b0WMXU
>>333055303
>Use HP nodes for medic crystarium
>Use magic nodes for ravager crystarium
>Use strength nodes for commander crystarium
>Get the highest bonuses from using the logical nodes for the crystarium's purpose
Wow, so complicated.
>>333055056
Goddamn it really?
>>333054952
Probably 18
>>333055371
It was unnecessarily complicated is what I'm saying.
>>333055707
Once you understood the rules it wasn't that bad, but I can definitely see what you mean. I was completely overwhelmed when I started out because nothing was really explained and you had to do a bunch of outside work to understand the system.
>>333055845
Thank you for being the first person who actually understand what I'm talking about. Usually people just give me a blank stare when I bring up crystarium bonuses.
>>333054604
He's a dream of a spirit
He's given physical form because fuck you spirits can do it
He needs to be summoned
Yuna summons him now because she wants her dreamy husbando back
>>333053973
see
>>333054341
and all the offensive synth skills are monster only. There are no Techniques anymore. And battle rating doesn't seem to care about how leveled or geared up you are. If I struggled to 4 star a boss with every dirty trick in the book I could come back and stomp it with another level.
Changing leader is the biggest improvement but if you have to change leader in combat then you've already fucked up the fight. And there are no Eidolons so that characters are pretty interchangeable anyway.
>>333054593
XIII has branching off shoots which means that you can choose to go for abilities and hp and ignore certain stats until you have excess CP. XIII-2 progression on the other hand is a literal straight line that permanently penalizes you for doing stuff in the wrong order. In a game where nothing else is permanently missable besides the Mog Clock that seems really out of place.
>>333050071
No one hit lightning in the face ever? I distinctly remember having a kek at lightning getting sucker punched.
>>333054471
Optimists are the worst, though.
Nobody's posted Dust to Dust yet???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5HK60dTLgw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpsgk7b3R3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLmhaVXu99U
>>333056873
>In a game where nothing else is permanently missable besides the Mog Clock that seems really out of place.
You can also technically lose a bunch of one-time monsters if you use them for infusion fodder, and you can only get Gigantaur three times total. The DLC lets you get some of the monsters back, but it's still not all of them from what I understand.
>>333037881
I want to fuck Serah so much.
>>333057176
>Ruined Hometown
Oh god too good
I never played a FF before, the only thing I played of it was a little bit of 13 and I liked it.
Should I start with VII or can I hop straight into 13?
All I know of 13 is Lightning, some guy named Snow, who was in love with Lightnings sister I think it was, and some black guy with an afro.
Whether you liked the trilogy or not, you have to agree with one thing; Lightning would single-handedly kick every single other protagonists ass in the series.
>>333057557
FF 13 was (aside from FF X which I played a little bit of) my first Final Fantasy game and I loved it to death. Go for it.
>>333053973
I can't believe people think that just because it added new features it was "improved." While ignoring massive problems like the fact that the game was so piss-easy compared to XIII that even bothering to use the new features was completely pointless.
In XIII you had to actually think about your paradigm deck to beat encounters. In XIII-2 there's literally no reason not to go COM/COM/COM and AFK through battles most of the time.
>>333057557
You can play them in any order you'd like.
I'd suggest starting with XIII first though as it's more accessible to a more casual player.
>>333057248
True, but the one time monsters are from special circumstances and if a new/casual player was callous enough to sacrifice their allies then it can't be helped. And a careful player would make damn sure to read the guide by that point.
>>333037881
The game was good but the story was mediocre at best. And all that bullshit about random encounters and "bring me some shit from another time" was pissing me off.
I want toget drunk withLightning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaVdzi2yPLQ
>>333057560
From what I've played I would say...
1 FF13-3 Goddess of Death Lightning (survived universe blowing up)
2 Zidane (stronger than Kuja who was a planet buster)
3 Terra
4 Squall
5 Cloud
6 FF13 Lightning
7 Tidus
8 Vaan
I think Trance Zidane might be able to defeat Lightning in LR. Even as a Goddess of Death, she never seemed to have any amazing destructive feats. Zidane is definitely stronger than Kuja by the end of FF9.
>>333056873
>XIII has branching off shoots which means that you can choose to go for abilities and hp and ignore certain stats until you have excess CP.
Except that since the crystarium level was locked off by game chapter this meant absolutely nothing as you'd always max out a level before being able to move onto the next one.
>>333058996
> Zidane is definitely stronger than Kuja by the end of FF9.
But Kuja had ultima.
>>333058996
>Even as a Goddess of Death, she never seemed to have any amazing destructive feats.
She beat up THE god of creation. And she also beat up that god's new ultimate lifeform.
>>333058429
what does that image say
https://youtu.be/2VMfRAlX1r4 best
>>333059313
She then used a sword made of the souls of all humankind to give Bhuni the final blow
>>333057557
Can I have some more feedback on this, I am really split between 7 and 13
>>333059639
Between those two play 7 first
>>333059639
Play 6. It's pretty good.
>>333059157
Kuja also was a punk bitch and probably the easiest fight ever
>>333059420
Lightning: Um...um.... S-Sixty seconds ha-..ha-... um... have passed...
Employee: Huh, the promotion is until 2PM?
Lightning: Eh.... Uhm... Well... Sorry...
Too cute!
>>333059639
4,5,6,7, and 9 are all great.
8 and 10 are good too.
Play them in whatever order you want though, it literally doesn't matter.
>>333059946
Thanks, anonI still don't get it
>>333057557
>>333059639
If you've never played a Final Fantasy game before, VII might be a lil hard to get into. The graphics alone are an eye-sore and the sheer immensity of the game might turn you off.
XIII is more streamlined to ease you in.
Besides, save the best for last.
>>333060392
He's right play IX last.
>>333060174
I don't know if this is regulation for all McDonald's or maybe just those in Japan, but it's probably one of those "Food will be made/ready in this amount of time or it's free" situations. And Lightning is feeling pretty uncomfortable about asking.
>>333060573
Does Lightning act like that in her games or is it just fanwank?It's cute.
>>333060848
She acts literally the opposite.
>>333037881
>There will never be a game where big and lil sis fight side by side.
>>333060848
fanwank, sadlyShe's a massive tsundere
>>333060960
>>333061089
Fug
I'll get around to playing FF13 some day. It's still on my massive backlog
