If I wanted to play this game, how would I go about it? Do I just emulate the PS1 version? I hear the translation is fucked but that's somehow also a good thing.
>>333027083
yes fft works well on emulation if you know how to set it up. Last ps1 emulator i messed with was retroarch. there are also some mods you may want to fuck around with,
>>333027083
Two options:
1. emulate PS1 version
>subjective: shitty translation
>original game as it was meant to be, feels faster to play
2. emulate PSP version with speed up hack
>subjective: shitty translation
>some additional content (more characters, etc nothing major)
>great cutscenes
I prefer the PSP version anon. Either one is good though its one of those 'you cant go wrong' things
>>333027083
Go with the sped up PSP one.
play this instead
>>333027404
Do both versions have the same translations or different shitty ones?
>>333027083
You'll get differing opinions on that.
The PS1 version has a poor translation but it's manageable.
The PSP version has a more complete translation, but muddles it with ye olde english and imo kinda ruins an early scene, though I can't comment any further then that because I never bothered to get the speed up patch, which you'll need if you wanna play it.
PSP does have the advantage of more content in the form of extra job stuff and probably something else, but nothing that's needed to enjoy the game.
>>333027503
It has better plot, but worse gameplay. Still worth playing.
>>333027503
what's this some FFT knockoff?
>>333027504
Different shitty ones.
PS1 translation is "haha those silly japs"
PSP translation is "wow this is tryhard as fuck"
>>333027503
You should absolutely play this game if you end up like FFT OP.
>>333027595
In case you're serious, it's a remake of a game that is older than FFT and written/directed by the same person
>>333027595
not today, masterbaiter
>>333027595
It was made by the people that did FFT, before Square bought them out
>>333027083
I love the originalbut the psp cut scenes are too good to pass up.
>>333027539
PSP versions sound effects are fucking weird too, like they lost part of the audio in the import.
>>333027681
in case OP decides to play this, and wants to recruit her: don't bother, she isn't worth it.
also, her route leads to one of the most pain in the assiest maps in the entire game.
>>333027595
b8.
Ogre Battle is older than anything FFT.
>>333027771
If you like the game you should do both paths. Law has a better story and you get Ravness and Vyce. Chaos has you being righteous and you get the 4 sisters
>>333027083
PSX version is best.
The translation is better , and the ingame cut scenes are much better than the new bullshit.
>But the new ones have a little additional content.
I can't stand the new cutscenes, or YE OLD talk but maybe its only because I've played through FFT PSX dozens of times.
Best way to play FFT is to play Tactics Ogre instead.
But, oh, I looked at the thread now and someone else already mentioned it.
>>333027083
Emulate PSP version if only for gorgeous cutscenes.
>>333027882
There is literally nothing wrong with the new cutscenes. How can someone hate them?
>little additional content
Two new classes and some fun characters ... I mean, its not integral to the game but its not completely trivial either. Cloud, Balthier etc are p cool
>>333027404
Doesn't the PSP version have slowdown issues?
>>333027083
PSP translation:
>Forgive me. 'Tis your birth and faith that wrong you, not I.
PS1 translation
>Blame God or yourself!
I don't get why people hate the Shakespearean shit so much. At the very least it's better than the original translation.
If you play with PPSSPP there's no slowdown or resolution issues like on a real PSP, and there is a bit more content and nice cutscenes.
Also, using PPSSPP is a lot easier than going through plugin hell for HD PS1 emulation.
>>333028265
>If you play with PPSSPP there's no slowdown or resolution issues like on a real PSP
That true? I was just googling slowdown fixes for PPSSPP and found some.
>>333028256
There's a hacked rom which removes the slow down problem.
>>333027547
This x10. Everyone says TO is better then FFT but the gameplay is shit. The spell system is garbage and flying units rape everything in the game.
>>333028437
That's what I heard on /emugen/ anyway. I guess I could test right now since I have a patched iso of it.
>>333028265
The cutscenes look like pure uncanny valley shit combined with shitty like sackboy shit.
They are visually horrifying, and add in the stupid tis wot hath ye wraught, and you have a cringe-worthy as fuck product.
>Cloud was in the PSX version too.
I've played through the PSP version twice, and I doubt I'll ever touch it again. I have no clue how many times I've played through the original.
>>333027404
doesnt the PSP version also fix exploits that made the original version terribly easy?
>>333028618
Yeah what a fucking awful art style, its not like it resembles the rest of the game or anything
>>333028806
Well the thing with FFT in general is its trivial to break the game when you get to certain points anyway.
It may have removed some exploits that made it easier to speed run or something
>>333027503
>tactics ogre: let's make everyone archer
>>333027547
basically this
>new class starts at level 1
>units recruited from battle forget 6 skill slots, all summons and level 4 spells
>fuck the tedious POTD
>fuck those post game requirements in general
>removed training mode
>even if new recruits are the same level they're still missing the thousands of skill points of your other units
>weapons, spells and skills have level restrictions
so many things about this game that piss me off and make me miss the SNES version
the psp TO has the option to retreat/avoid random battles
it's the only gameplay related thing it has over FFT imo
>>333029037
I kinda want to play through the routes I didn't pick but the gameplay is what's stopping me. Besides, at this point I don't recall the intricacies of the plot I've played through either.
>>333028584
>>333028437
Yeah, I just tried it, and there's no difference with the patch.
I just recorded both and played both videos side by side, sort of synced, and it was pretty obvious they were the same.
>>333029195
for some reason the makers REALLY loved the law route and hated neutral
chaos is similar to FFT in a way
>>333028618
You mean the "shitty like sackboy shit" that's based on all the portraits and art that were already in the game?
How many of you actually brought chocobos into battle ever?
I sure didn't.
>>333027445
I never understood the cover art to this game.
It just wasn't very indicative of the game.
>>333027083
I like the WOTL translation, shoot me.
I'm a sucker for flowerly language in fantasy.
>>333029892
ANIMALS HAVE NO GOD
l i t t l e m o n e y
>>333030059
Worst part about new save files.
All the unskippable dialog.
>>333029490
They seemed sorta useful, but not leave-a-soldier-behind useful.
For every Chocobo, you could have another Dragoon.
I've replayed FFT about 50 fucking times, and I still prefer the PS1 version. I gave the PSP one a fair shake but they took the liberty of censoring the game when they "fixed" the translation issues.
- Removed any and all references of God
- Cut out/replaced all scenes of Delita beating on hoes
- Made everything ye olde english for no reason
- added broken as fuck classes (to be fair the game is a broken mess in the first place, but DK and Onion pls go)
- Removed random spell quotes from actions (or at least greatly reduced the chance of them appearing; never saw them in my PSP playthrough)
>>333030138
Well let's be real. Dragoons/Lancers were kinda shit.
>>333030335
Fuck you nigga, you could bait out enemy spells and then jump.
Also polearms are god-tier.
>>333030310
>- Cut out/replaced all scenes of Delita beating on hoes
Wait did they?
>- Removed random spell quotes from actions (or at least greatly reduced the chance of them appearing; never saw them in my PSP playthrough)
Who cares 8D
>>333030403
>Also polearms are god-tier.
Fists are god tier.
There's no room in god tier for two.
>>333030430
Yep.
Also, the spell quotes are fun as hell. Especially from my waifu, Agrias.
>>333030504
You're completely right
As long as you're dual wielding or two-handing your fists.
>>333030674
Ninja with martial arts just breaks the fuck out of everything.
--And then you give that ninja a bracer. 8D
man you fuckin noobs need some goddamn calculators in your life. nothin' beats taking a beefed calc in and leveling the place in one turn
>>333032528
>nothin' beats taking a beefed calc in and leveling the place in one turn
It's boring to do.
There's no thrill in it whatsoever.
Female Wizard with the Samurai's Draw Out.
dem heals
dem buffs
dem high powered non allied afflicting AoEs
>>333032839
With what reaction ability tho
>>333033729
situational really
either something melee based as Draw Out requires you to be closer than what would be comfortable for someone with the hp levels of a mage
or something that helps evasion combined with a good cape if you're not bothering to stack MA
Or you can be lazy like me and sell all your regular potions and give everyone auto-potion
I don't think it has been brought up yet but the PSP version is a little grindier because the job requirements were reverted back to the original JP version values - the English version of PSX FFT lowered them.
Also I believe Cloud was extra shitty and Summoners were nerfed going from ENG PSX -> PSP version.
Is there any difference between the original and War of the Lions aside from Balthier being playable or is it a completely different game?
>>333034734
WotL also has cutscenes.
>>333034734
Dark Knight class is playable, you also get the Luso guy from FFT A2.
Cutscenes, a flowery ye olde new translation.
And horrible, terrible, tragically asinine poor optimization.
>>333030598
I genuinely love the spell quotes. They're stupidly over the top and blunt, and that's great
can't dunk the monk
All these OP classes are for shitters. Try playing with the weaker ones and the game becomes infinitely more fun.
>>333027083
I'd go for the PSP version
Yes a couple of lines are changed, yes there's a slowdown on the abilities and yes some things were removed but on the whole I enjoyed it more than the PS1 version.
I know a lot of people would say that the extra classes break the game but Orlandeau's a walking game breaker already. And you could already break it with the Zeklaus desert level up/down trick as well as with equipment and abilities so that point's basically moot.
I won't lie though - it took about 25 hours or grinding but I eventually had a full team of DKs after going through the Siege Weald in Chapter 1. I called them 'The Dark Knights of Dorter.' Shit was cash.
>>333037307
Who the heck calls Dark Knight broken? In the time it takes to get them, you might as well just get Math Skill.
Plus Onion Knights are shit.
About the only broken yet easy to get addition in the PSP version is Balthier, but he's roughly around the same timing as Orlandu anyway.
War of the Lions:
Argath: You, no less human than we? Ha! Now there's a beastly thought. You've
been less than we from the moment your baseborn father fell upon your mother in
whatever gutter saw you sired! You've been chattel since you came into the
world drenched in common blood!
Milleuda: By whose decree!? Who decides such foul and absurd things?
Argath: 'Tis heaven's will!
Milleuda: Heaven's will? You would pin your bigotry on the gods? No god would
fain forgive such sin, much less embrace it! All men are equal in the eyes of
the gods!
Argath: Men, yes. But the gods have no eyes for chattel.
Milleuda: You speak of devils, not gods!
Delita: Ramza, is this woman truly our enemy?
PS1:
Algus: Human? Hmph, ridiculous! From the minute you were born
you had to obey us! From the second you were born you were our
animals!!
Miluda: Says who!? That's nonsense! Who decided all this?!
Algus: It's the Will of Heaven!
Miluda: Heaven? God would never say such things! In his eyes,
all are equal! He'd never let this happen! Never!
Algus: Animals have no God!!
Miluda: !!!!
Delita: Ramza, Is she really our enemy....?
アルガス
「同じ人間だと? フン、汚らわしいッ!
「生まれた瞬間からおまえたちはオレたち貴族に尽くさねばならない!
「生まれた瞬間からおまえたちはオレたち貴族の家畜なんだッ!!
ミルウーダ
「誰が決めたッ!? そんな理不尽なこと、誰が決めたッ!
アルガス
「それは天の意志だ!
ミルウーダ
「天の意志? 神がそのようなことを宣うものか!
「神の前では何人たりとも平等のはず! 神はそのようなことをお許しにはならない! なるはずがないッ!
アルガス
「家畜に神はいないッ!!
ミルウーダ
「!!!!
ディリータ
「ラムザ、 彼女は本当に僕らの敵なのか…?
>>333030310
>ye olde English didn't fit fucking fantastic
>>333027627
ps1 version
>blame yourselves or God
Play the psp version so you can grind to a dark knight. that and yea everything else is better. At least read some of the ps1 version's translations though for shits and giggles, worse than ff7 even.
>playing the psp version
>>333036218
And then impossible once you get to Velius.
>>333040048
I think the only Single Class challenge that hasn't been beaten is "Pure" Calculators.
