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>all this FFXV shitposting Lets talk about actually bad gameplay
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>all this FFXV shitposting
Lets talk about actually bad gameplay design instead
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>>333024079
But you haven't posted an example of bad design anon
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>>333024079
gameplay was good, Vaan sucked.
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This game would be probably one of my all-time favorite games if whoever designed this system had any goddamn brains.

Game's still great, but this always puts a damper on my enjoyment of it.
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While the license board idea was dumb, I actually liked the gameplay itself, especially if you had the 'live' setting where using the battle menu didn't pause the game.
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>>333024359
my negro
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It is just spending skill points into skill paths.
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>>333024079
Throwing normal enemies into a boss fight is fucking shitty.
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Pieces of tech tree are random and it's hidden behind fog.
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>>333024507
But having to spend skill points in order to wear a fucking hat is retarded
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The game was impossible unless you knew where to go to pick up critical things like mp restoration, hp boosts and battle lore. You practically had to look up the whole grid and plan.
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>>333024784
Dark Souls does it
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>>333025643
Stat requirements are different
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>>333024784
It's literally just level up, unlock gear from the grid and the gear will be available from the store.

It's not even hard to grind the licence points if you need since every enemy gives them.

When you're above lvl 20 you can just go to Dalmasca estersand and kill lvl 2 wolves for like 15 minutes and you get over a hundred LP
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>>333025203
>tfw beat it like 3 times when i was 10 years old

I really wouldn't call it impossible. I was a dumb kid and didn't know shit bout rpgs and got through it.
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>>333026361
Well you can cheese everything with mist, sure, but it doesn't feel good.
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>>333024079
the checkerboard was awesome, you're just nitpicking.
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>>333024079
But that game was good anon kun.

Try zodiac edition, it's immensely improved.
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>>333025724
How so?
>But having to spend skill points in order to wear a fucking hat is retarded
That is literally the system you have in Dark Souls
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>>333024079
I'm replaying FF12 IZJS, It's very fun
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>>333026560
Until you find out that most of the good end game items are locked in RNG chests and have 0.001% chance of item you want.

Fuck that game. Worst FF game in the franchise
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>>333026472
last I checked, hats in dark souls don't have item requirements. Neither does armor in general.

Dark souls 2 had some but it was usually strength required to wear heavier armor, which makes sense and isn't the same thing as a poorly designed way to work job points into a game.

>>333027095
Nah, it ain't the worst. Below average, sure.

FF2's system is too awful to let anyone else have the title of 'worst'.
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>>333027275
When I mention hats I mean every head equipment.
And what the hell are you talking about, you needed Endurance on DSI for weight and Strenght in DSII for some equipments, weapons and carry weight
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>>333024243
I don't understand why people can act like this is such a hot button issue. He is literally nothing. I don't know how a fully customizable character that you don't even have to use past the beginning and who has almost no dialogue can be seen as detracting so much from the game.
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>>333027857
Mostly because it's glaringly obvious that he and his not-girlfriend were shoved in at the last second to attract a teen demographic. The game would've been better it if were from any other character's perspective, save Penelo, who only exists because of him.

He bogged down the first 2-4 hours of the game with events that amounted to nothing, and they had to pull in a second character just so he'd have a cardboard cutout to talk to, and neither of them are hardly fleshed out characters.

The only thing Vaan and Penelo are good for is porn.
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Is there an undub version of IZJS with the JP text or am i stuck with the NA voice acting
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>not having a FAP party
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>FF12 is bad meme

Lol
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>50 million health
>9999 damage cap
>7 hour boss fight
I is is it hard yet guize?
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