This is the only good Kingdom Hearts game.
>>332988995
Pls work on your b8
>>332988995
>not Chain of Memories
Shit taste desu senpai
you have an absolutely trash opinion.
maybe play through the series again and consider what it is and is not good at. what it is good at, ie boss fights/gameplay/music/characters, is mostly better in other titles.
i will say i like 358/2's story and characters the best, but to imply it's the only good KH game is very silly.
>>332988995
Your bait can be smelled from a mile away.
Can't be worse than BBS, just beat it on Critical with Ventus and this is the biggest horseshit I've ever seen.
-Even the weakest enemies take chip damage, the Shadow unversed took a good 50 hits each to kill
-No boss lets you fulfill a combo, ever
-OHKOs erryday
>>332990479
>Mysterious Figure as TerraReminder that 2 Final Mix is the best in the series
>>332990479
>Even the weakest enemies take chip damage
Guess what anon? Days has this same issue, only it's present at all difficulties, AND every enemy has tons of HP.
>>332988995
This is probably just bait but if so its nice to know someone out there likes it as much as I do. I like pretty much every game in the series though other than DDD.
>>332991169
I doubt you think it's the best game in the series.
>>332991262
I don't know how one would even go about proving that but if you don't believe me okay I guess.
>>332991539
I don't see how that's even possible
>>332991693
Different people like different things. Pretty simple to understand.
>>332991737
Yeah but Days isn't fun to play through nor does it have an interesting story.
>>332991737
Days is pretty much objectively bad though
>>332991924
I disagree.
>>332992042
>bloated enemy stats with shit AI
>wonky, slow movement
>magic is the only good damage, but limited to uses
>everything about panels and the mission structure
>that pacing
>those static characters
>that Mary Sue self-insert
>entire premise is wasted on trying to make you feel bad for a character that has no business existing
>>332990479
Critical straight up tells you what you're getting yourself into, idk why you're mad at it when there are other ways to set the difficulty.
Also this is probably my least favorite in terms of gameplay but goddamn the first final boss ending scene made me cry like a bitch
>>332992306
>that Mary Sue self-insert
Who?
>>332991924
Also objectively bad implies the game doesn't work as intended or has mechanics that actually make playing the game impossible. Story is always subjective no matter how much people like to pretend it isn't and that their opinions are more meaningful.
>oh boy, a game about the Organization! Maybe I'll grow to like these assholes
>most of the game revolves around a literally who that vanishes from everyone's memories at the end
Wasted potential.
>>332992306
Sucks that you hated the game. Hopefully someday your opinion will change and you'll enjoy it more.
What does /v/ think about the least discussed game in the series?
I think it's pretty cool they got this thing running on the DS to begin with.
>>332992531
>implies the game doesn't work as intended or has mechanics that actually make playing the game impossible.
Uh, no, that would be objectively broken
>>332992983
It's bad but I would play it over the original. You can't unsee that shit
Im playing through kingdom hearts 1 for the first time, it took me forever to kill cerberus, am I underleveled or some shit? I feel like I"m flying through the stages
>>332992983
It's the second best combat next to KHIIFM and tied with CoM for best story
inb4 people try to conflate plot events/perceived relevance with good storytelling/writing
>>332993224
DDD would not happen without Coded. I do not understand how people hand wave it away as unimportant.
>>332993106
If the game isn't broken then the rest is subjective. Other people can like things that you don't like. Your opinion is not the end all be all.
>>332993358
Could you give out a list of reasons as to why you enjoy Days?
>>332993445
I really enjoyed the story, combat, mission structure and music.
>>332993596
Are you a workaholic?
>>332993332
I'm more confused about how some people think Days is more important than Re:c. Like damn nigga did you even play these games
>>332993358
>If the game isn't broken then the rest is subjective.
Uh, no. Just like if a movie plays, there can still be something wrong with it.
Or how the writing can be on the pages just fine, and the binding is intact, but the book can still have problems.
Just because a game runs doesn't mean it's suddenly a good game.
Day's mechanics and balancing are a fucking mess, that much is fact. You can even see where Day went wrong highlighted in what Re:coded did right and improved from Days.
>>332993885
So angry. How dare someone like something that I don't like.
>>332993165
You are technically supposed to play the worlds in a specific order, but Cerberus is just a tough fight, so don't take it to heart until the regular mobs start to seem OP.
>>332994043
How do you draw anger out of a thought out and comprehensive response?
>>332994101
I kek'd.
Nice.
>>332994043
More like "how dare someone use opinions to throw a veil over objective criticism"
An opinion would be "I like the panels"
The objective truth is that the panel system is highly restrictive because the game forces you to allocate far too many things into far too small a space. Even at the max 120 panels (which requires a LOT to get to), you simply don't have enough space to do everything you want.
It's the worst loadout mechanic I've ever seen, especially during challenges when, in order to get all three sigils, you HAVE to change your setup for every single mission because you just plain can't have the capacity for multiple builds in one setup.
It's nothing but tedium.
Also because of how shit the balancing is, LV panels are basically worthless.
>>332994101
Why can't I just have my favorite game and you have your's and leave it at that? Why do you have to go after what I happen to enjoy?
>>332992306
>that Mary Sue self-insert
kill yourself fucking retard
>>332994720
Xion a shit desu senpai
>>332994762
Not him but how is Xion a Mary Sue?
>>332992306
Okay you have some points here but you can fuck off about panels. Most KH spin-off games have better equip/skill management than the mainline (1-2) games it's goddamn sad. That shit is more restrictive than all hell.
The gameplay was pretty stiff and the levels were like linear cardboard cutouts inside a small box.
Nomura out here throwing niggas scraps.
>>332995001
>AP is restrictive
Maybe in the beginning of the game, but it becomes a non-issue later on.
Meanwhile Panels is restrictive the entire game and into the postgame.
>>332995141
Looks too dark to be a KH location. It looks like a SO5 location.
>>332995390
It's much brighter in Unchained/X.
>>332988995
*bad
>>332995490
It gets pretty dark when there's a Raid Boss though
>>332995781
True, but I feel like that wasn't what that anon initially meant. I was just showing how bright it usually is. Actually it being so dark looks suspicious seeing that first pic is from 2.8 and the X Back Cover part of it won't be playable so who knows what's going on there. But it maybe them just playing around with the lighting.
>>332996019
Well, Daybreak Town has a day/night cycle. Player goes to sleep at least twice and it's dark out when he does
>>332996547
Not him but, really? I thought it was a Twilight Town thing where it's permanently Dawn instead of Dusk?
>>332996547
I was thinking that the colors and shading look too soft compared to normal KH fare.>>332995141 looks like a fan made it in UE4 or for a different game altogether.
>>332990698
yeah, real shame it took so long to get to us
>>332996759
I'm guessing you haven't seen too much of KH3/2.8? It's been looking like that for a while. And they had to switch from Luminous to UE4 a while back.
>>332996927
Ah, I didn't know that. All I saw about KH3 was the Magic Mountain fight trailer and the colors are not as toned down as that.
>>332996759
Im assuming since its Daybreak Town it starts off gloomier before it gets bright and colorful sunrise sunny
but it definitely came from Nomura's twitter
>>332996737
I doubt that any of the worlds have static times of day
>>332997061
Yeah, it's one of the number one complaints that I've seen so far. And generally I agree. It's weird some parts look better than others. Like Twilight Town looks fine, while Sora/the characters look overly smooth.
>>332997149
like everytime you go there, instead of a day night cycle it just is constantly the sun just barely rising
>>332997149
I wonder if it's a good decision reassigning Nomura from XV to FF7R and KH3. He looked like he's making steady progress and is probably the one with the clearest idea on what to do with all three games. Now Tabata has his own ideas and I'm not sure it's for the best.
Although from an operations point of view, putting Tabata in charge and Nomura on the other 2 makes sense because projects get worked on concurrently and thus gets released faster.
>>332997280
I don't believe you see Twilight Town at a different time of day. Same with Traverse Town. In KH2's prologue, every time Roxas wakes up it's already Twilight.
>>332988995
358/2 was the first game of the franchise I played. It actually felt like a good starting point because of Roxas' lack of memories. Theboipussyrelationship between Axel and Roxas was great for me.
>>332997314
>>332996927
Theyre still probably tweaking the textures and the Kingdom Shader, each time they show new footage it's visibly better, I think the issues stem from them making adjustments for one world/shader and then it fucking up all the others
Color wise I'm not too worried because of the Mount Olympus footage before the rock titan
Eventually they will get back to original rock titan fight quality but also in every world
>>332997716
Honestly I think I would have liked it better if it stayed in Luminous, but you take what you get.
>>332997391
I want to know how much money Square put into FFXV as whole. Because damn. Nomura's probably been working with two shoe strings and a piece of gum.
>>332998004
as long as they can get as close to render quality as possible, I will be happy
>>332998253I actually hate the new render.
>>332998624
Really? How come?
>>332999324
It's a combination of things. It's still got that weird smoothness to it, I don't like the fingerless gauntlets, Sora's nose seems too long for his face now, etc.
>>332994902
she is a girl and also sora but not quite sora because she is a girl and also
also she can use all the keyblades because she is and isn't sora.
also
hey guys
hey
uh, also
oh yeah! also, she is a girl!
did i mention that she was a girl because its important to the story n stuff!
>>332999458
Ah fair enough, he's always had fingerless gloves though hasnt he? at least now they are more like armor
>>332998624
>>332999458
It looks fine to me.
>>332998004
They've been shoveling XIV sub money to fund XV and rough estimates put XIV bringing about $30 million per year based on 250k subs. If XV don't sell at least 7m copies, FF might be in trouble. Not sure if SE as a company will though.
>>332999847
His last two pairs had fingers. They ended at the first knuckle though. I'm not sure exactly how to describe it.
>>332999890
It's just my opinion though.
>>332999894
It just seems like they were going all out. I mean they got Game of Thrones actors to do voice work for the movie and then there was the whole anime thing. It makes me wonder if they realize how much of a walking spoiler Sean Bean is though.
>>332990479
Yeah BBShit is the worst one by far
>>333000650
>BbS worse than Days
Uh, no.
Why is he such a dumbass?
>>332993332
How? I didn't play it
>>333002495
I think he's talking about how Namine basically has the information to tell Sora about how many people really need his help and how he needs to save them. I think he doesn't fully get relayed this info until 3D.
Well someone already posted the Daybreak Town screen from 2.8.
Only other recent news is that Unchained χ updated to 1.2.
Major notes are that Friend Draw is gone and the UI went through some notable changes.
Medals can now be filtered by Upright/Reverse.
Still no sign of a Western release date.
>>333002495
DDD takes place in the Sleeping Worlds primarily because of what they learned in Re:coded.
That information is the reason why Yen Sid tasks them with obtaining a special power by unlocking the Keyholes of Sleep.
>>333002678
The real Sora STILL hasn't been told of the hurt that Data-Sora discovered.
I suspect this will be a part of KHIII, since it's said in Re:coded that Sora will need to own that hurt (the same way Data-Sora had to understand it before learning the truth), in order to save the people who are hurting.
My hope isa boss fight against Data-Sora
>>332997314
>dat face
i really hope they fix it
>>333000760
Yes
Fuck BBS and it's apologists
The only good thing about BBS was the Command Board mini-game
>>333003521
That's wrong but okay.
>>333003521
Stop lying nigga.
I liked Roxas shame he's irrelevant
>>332989931
ma nigga
Why can't JRPGs come back to the card craze
>>333003521
You just can't say that, the combat system and character progression were pretty good.
The shallow script, the horrendous characters, the terrible pacing, the empty worlds, the uninspired design, how it made all its worth into the things that we already saw in the KHII trailer when it was thought it was KHIII and the overall "we really had to cut shit to make it into the PSP" feel tones that done quite a bit, tho.
What did people like about 358/2 anyway
From what I remember it was pretty repetitive all the way to the end
>>332990479
>>333003521
>BBS
>worse than 358/2 Days
>worse than "Every boss has 10 bars of health, your strongest keyblade hits like a wet spaghetti noodle, and will require you to just wail on it, hit its appendages with tiny moving hitboxes that will grab you, or chase after it"
>worse than "your mission is to kill this thing that gets progressively faster while it runs around in circles in a large maze so you just sit around and wait and do nothing"
>worse than "10 different status effects that have no real reason to all exist at once and only work half the time on enemies and all the time on you"
>worse than "run into a wall until you find that one part you can examine so you can finish the mission"
>Leechgrave, Ruler of the Sky, Dustflier
>mission mode in general and how even if you have people to play it with is slow and only a few of the characters like Saix and Lexaeus stand out at all
>recycled music everywhere
>"muh ice cream"
BBS isn't my favorite, but you have to blind to think Days isn't the worst by far. Only thing it gets right is some story elements.
>>332990479
>BBS
>playing on Critical
Well there's your problem
>>333006924
There isn't any other way to play KH games.
>>332988995
I liked it because it had multiplayer.
>>333004923
>playing days
>magic is fucking worthless
>it has limited use so your entire fucking build is a metric fuckton of magic and a boatload of ethers
>still end up having to melee bosses half the time
>make a ton of playable characters
>half are useless because of obtusely long combos, low damage, low hp or being an aforementioned magic user
>only some weapons are viable and theyre usually the omega weapon or in roxas' case dool weel
>bosses are hilariously obnoxious and the recolored enemy variants such as dustflier have to rely on being brick walls of hp and instant kills because square had a fucking stroke trying to balance a game with 4 man multiplayer
>the multiple player character gimmick was garbage in BBS because all 3 characters were just "keyblade user but slow and strong" "magic keyblade user" and "fast keyblade user"
>even 3D didnt really differentiate between sora and riku
im fucking terrified of 3, its just going to be slight variants of keyblade users. why couldnt days be good?
>>333007623
>even 3D didnt really differentiate between sora and riku
Weren't they differentiated by their dream eater combos, exclusive commands and their stats with Sora being more magic based while Riku was STR? That's honestly a fair amount of differentiation.
>>332992784
This, so much this, and the fact that missions are "go here and do this, return, and do something mostly similar again." The gimmick missions are especially bad, Xion is fucking boring and all of the more interesting XIII are criminally underused. Bought it, thinking it couldn't be THAT bad, but I just can't finish it.
>>333008032
compare that to entirely different gameplay, stats, limit breaks and weapons and it pales in comparison
in the end they still do boil down to just swordsmen with slightly different special combos.
>>333007623
>magic is worthless
git fucking good you fucking worthless scrub. Magic is so goddamned overpowered in Days
All I see here is scrubs bitching because they suck ass at the games. BBS is also easy as fuck to break
>>333007623
>magic is fucking worthless
Actually it's the only good source of damage in the game.
Which makes it more painful that it's use-based.
>square had a fucking stroke trying to balance a game with 4 man multiplayer
Worst part is that this is a problem in the single-player content.
But also h.a.n.d. developed Days, Square's involvement was mostly Nomura and his posse doing the not-programming things.
>its just going to be slight variants of keyblade users
I don't think KHIII will have multiple characters.
If it does, it'll just be a situation similar to Roxas, probably.
>>333003108
He might learn it in the Inside Out World, jumping in Namine or Ven's head to do it
>>332992983
It was fun but the system sectors were annoying lazy rehashes that you go through for the entire game. Also some of the forced minigames sucked ass
>>332992306
>2016
>Still thinking Xion is a mary sue
M8
Stop
Which game had the worst keyblade designs and why was it DDD?
2.8 ReMIX when?
>>333010368
>What do we do for this Keyblade?
>I know! Lots of spikes, a two-color palette, and an edgy name!
>>333011157
Those look extremely uninspired.
>>333006980
Anon, the only KH game where playing Critical is fun and worth it is II FM. All the others you should be playing Proud.
>>333011325
Maybe I'm a masochist but I thought Critical was a lot of fun for BBS and Re:Coded. I didn't do it in DDD since it was locked behind replaying and I don't usually replay KH games so close together.
>>332998253
Sora is still 15, but just wearing new clothes, right?
>>333012126
They'll probably bump him up another year like they did with 2. He appears to of aged slightly.
>>333006924
I know that now, trashed Vanitas on Proud so hard he seemed like a generic mob.
i wish 1.5 and 2.5 was on ps4
