>dark souls 2 is not bad! you're just following the herd! the game is just as good as the original!
Who are you quoting?
Why are you posting the vanilla version of das2, everyone cares about scholar now.
It's like you don't even understand the deep lore.
>>332982572
wow what great animation
>>332982548
doesn't matter, the damage is done
>>332982472
Do you know what the oldest lie on 4chan is senator?
DaS2 is good.
>>332983035
this imo tbqh
>>332982548
>"They fixed the lighting!"
>Literally scripts that lower the brightness setting when you walk through doorways
>They didn't even attempt to hide it in the slightest
>>332982472
What did he mean by this?
>>332983035
i don't think ondore ever said that
>>332983035
That place actually looks pretty cool like that.
>>332982472
Worse pve than das, far better PvP. people only even played the PvP in das because you could tell there was somethin good there underneath all the trash.
PvP figured out the netcode at least somewhat.
>>332982472
>dark souls 2 is not bad!
True
>just as good as the original
False
>>332982472
Shitboxes soured my opinion of the game
I still enjoy it though
>Adaptability
replaying ds2 right now (vanilla) after beating ds1 once again and it's actually more fun than i remember. so many random bosses tho, should've rather made the main ones more challenging than adding stuff like skeleton lords or the lad in the ship.
not a fan of the movement tho, ds1 feels so much more fluid.
>>332982472
ya it fucking sucks so why do you fucking keep bringing it UP????!!! WHAT THE FUCK I JUST WANT TO FUCKING MOVE ON FUCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK IM ALREADY DEPRESSED I WANT TO FUCKING KILL MYSELF CANT YOU FUCKING STOP REMINDING ME FUCKING DARK SOULS @ SUCKED
Fucking
Kill
Me
>>332987813
>Vengarl helm
Looks like you don't need us to kill you, you'll die on your ownscrub
>>332987813
I am never going through that area again
Fuck those reindeer
>>332987925
I'm actually using the Drakeblood set, I pulled this off google.
>>332987813
>>332987983
Is this a good place for invasions? I had lots of fun in the Iron Passage
>>332982472
>take a picture of tv screen
>"see it looks like shit."
>>332987571
>Sheilds are nerfed
>Adaptabillity
How the fuck do i avoid taking early game damage?
>>332987983
Ah come on, anonymous, things weren't that bad between us...
>>332982548
Why should anyone give a shit about scholars if the vanilla version was so awful?
You're telling me people actually spent money on that Shit DLC after playing through the God awful vanilla version?
You're actually trying to tell me right now that people are retarded enough to throw their money at something that didn't improve anything and only prolonged their suffering through a poorly made game?
Surely you jest anon, nobody could be that dumb.
>complains about the game
>doesn't know how to take a screenshot
This must be bait.
>>332987740
>DARK SOULS @
>holding shift through all that
Come on mate
>>332988182
Parry. Or literally get ADP to 20 as soon as possible.
Probably the latter.
ive never understood why everyone treats dodging like its impossible with adp < 15 or something
the hitboxes are fucked but not THAT fucked
>>332987983
Which is a shame because I really, really liked Eleum Loyce as a level. Most of the DLCs were really good aside from enemies that were a huge pain in the ass.
>>332988182
I imagine rolling would help, but that could be hard with the I-frames thing..
You could also try keeping your distance, but obviously not too far away that you can't get in to attack.
Also get a shield with 100% physical block.
>>332988258
>You're telling me people actually
do you think the only people alive are people who think and have the same wants as you?
>>332988215
>Kirin
Rajang when
>>332988092
Yes, make sure you bring some silver talismans or chameleon.
>>332982472
Most people I've seen shit on 2 hold it to a different standard than 1, both games have issues but they try to say 1 is near perfect.
>>332982548
Just kill yourself
>>332988465
I like to pretend not everybody that play games are retarded.
i just realized
ive never played through SotfS, haven't played the DLC either. What weapon type should I stick with for my playthrough? I want a challenge but im not good at arbitrarily restraining myself
>>332988789
Dualwielding greatswords is fun
>>332988838
Hmmm maybe, are there any decent ones for power stance? I've already done big str guy but if I can make it gimmicky as fuck thatd be fun
wait is that even possible with Ultra Greatswords since they need double the Str requirement?
>>332988789
>>332988990
Dual rapiers/Estocs
And/or Rapier/Estoc with Target Shield only.
>>332984334
>Dark Souls 2
>builds
>>332982472
I thought about replaying ds2 for the scholar dlc but, not going through all that shit to see little changes
>>332989071
I like that. Should I use any spellcasting?
>>332989154
>he's too stupid to make a build in Dark Souls 2
>>332989220
nah no magic. maybe a bow at the most.
>>332988789
Me neither. Even though i own all the content i never bothered to play it.
SM really fucking killed ds2 for me.
>>332984334
The "Complexity" is DAS2 major problem. They added so many useless stats and mechanics and made it impossible to progress without most of them.
>>332989330
yeah man I like that build where you meet your weapon's requirements and then stop leveling dex and str and just vit gouge because scaling doesn't do anything. It's almost as good as the build where you do the same thing except also level int and faith maybe to use the three or four spells that weren't nerfed into oblivion.
>>332989341
Bows suck tho, what about crossbows?
>>332989356
>Soul memory
oh god thats why i stopped playing, im reaaaal excited for that shit again.
>>332989384
? Besides ADP (id argue against that anyway since i did my first playthrough without using it at all) what else is there
>>332989504
You know, I can't tell if you're talking about Dark Souls 1 or 2.
Heard you talkin' shit like I wouldn't find out
>>332989519
>>332989356If you want to co-op or invade go to an area with an orange border in the warp menu.
I really wasn't a fan of the decreasing max health and limited estus flask thing. Game is hard enough as it is, there doesn't need to be this bullshit along with it.
>>332989504
>scaling doesnt so anything
G I A N T C L U B
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you gigantic faggot
>>332989563
Sorry I didn't realize you're a time traveler who's only played the 1.00 patch of Dark Souls
>>332989356
>>332989519
Through my 8 or so playthroughs of Dark Souls2 I never had an issue with SM, aside from some early game sections. The impact of SM seems massively overblown.
>>332989681
Never played DaS2
>Limited estus
What?
>>332989730
You're trying to imply that you can only make builds in Dark Souls 1 when the setups of both games are almost literally the same. I had multiple builds in 2, it's not my fault you're an idiot.
>>332989692
>invest 30 extra levels into additional 40 damage per hit
wow
>>332989681
>Dark Souls II
>hard
DaSII isn't hard at all, DaSI is much harder and to be honest I didn't even find that one hard either, sometimes I wish I understood why so many people think these games are hard.
>>332989815
You only have one estus flask charge until you find shards to add more. It's stupid, so you have to rely on vitality shards that regenerate your health slowly. But they are in limited number and have to be found or bought.
>>332989815
Having less than 10 (5) at the start.
>>332989992
Effectively bringing back the moon grass nobody missed. Not sure what they were thinking. If only that was the major issue with DaS2...
I liked life gems, they were faster than estus.
DaS2 definitely had problems, but I still liked it. It had the best boss weapons.
>>332989504
Physical damage scaling got buffed ages ago.
Literally every Dark Souls 1 build is 27/40 with 30 faith for buffs and then vit gouge so i don't know who you're trying to fool. Dark Souls 1 build variety was ass, and so was its PvP meta.
>>332989692
Yeah man. I sure like spending 32 extra stat points on barely doing about 50 more damage. That's a really worthwhile investment.
>>332989867
I'm implying you're retarded for making a build when the only choice in your build in DS2 is whether you want to do magic or not since scaling is fucking shit. I'm sorry you're too retarded to realize strength and dex are useless outside meeting requirements in DS2.
>>332989519
bows are great in DS2.
>>332990725
>Physical damage scaling got buffed ages ago.
No it didn't. Only in Dark Souls 1. It was never touched in Dark Souls 2. You get as much damage from 30 points of dex/str on an A-S scaling weapon as you get from just equipping Flynn's Ring.
>Literally every Dark Souls 1 build is quality
Only if you're a retard.
>>332982472
They actually removed the ability to see that in SOTFS, I checked recently. Doesn't change the fact that the world's geometry ends up that way. You're still walking in that direction once you ride the elevator up.
>>332990852
>I'm implying you're retarded for making a build when the only choice in your build in DS2 is whether you want to do magic or not since scaling is fucking shit
I'm really starting to think you never even played the game. If you really think magic is the only viable alternative than you're a bigger shitter than I thought.
>>332990991
>Only if you're a retard.
That's funny, coming from you.
>>332991061
what exactly is he looking at there?
>>332991263
The staircase and prison cells you walk through to get to the main area of Lost Bastille.
>>332991080
Oh, I played the game. Apparently you didn't, retard
>LITERALLY 51 extra damage from 32 points of strength on a weapon with high scaling
Yeah man, scaling is SO GOOD in Dark Souls 2. You're a fucking pro.
>If you really think magic is... viable
Nice reading comprehension you dick sucking apologist. I literally said magic was shit in my first post.
>>332991263
Wet Dry World
>>332991263
i think hes looking up through a wall and seeing iron keep geometry from the poison tower. Its referencing the fact that you start out in a wasteland and by going up an elevator you somehow in the middle of a volcano.
>>332991398
>>332991481
never mind im an idiot
>>332991459
Proof its the same upgrade.
>>332991665
There's a scaling AR calculator on the fextralife wiki if you're that interested. He's right though, the scaling kinda sucks.
>>332991459
>Oh, I played the game. Apparently you didn't, retard
5 characters through NG+ at the very least family
>Yeah man, scaling is SO GOOD in Dark Souls 2. You're a fucking pro.
Now lets see the proof that those are both upgraded the same way
>>332991850
But it's no where near as bad as he's making it out to be
>>332991665
Here. Webm of 50 strength standard Great Club +10. 28 strength is next.
>>332991665
>>332992293
28 strength standard great club +10.
>>332992116
that's nice. I've played through with 15 different characters in the standard game and SOTFS. You can fuck right off.
>>332983035
Looks better than the original
>>332992495
Well I have 30 characters played through NG++ since this has obviously become a pissing contest with no truth to it.
>>332992912
Whatever moron. I could literally walk to your house and show you the negligible difference in damage on your own computer and you'd claim I was hypnotizing you into seeing different numbers.
>>332992912
Why are you so ass hurt my son?
>>332985370
>i-it's a feature!
Faggot.
>>332993074
Here comes the faggot who thinks himself as a therapist.
>>332992293
>>332992495
So what's the damage difference on late game enemies? Dark Souls 1 early enemies seemed to have also have a "cap" on the damage done to them.
>>332993206
Just calm down my child, no need for such hostility on a tibetan knitting chatroom
It's not as good as the first but it's a pretty solid game still. Especially if you enjoy the combat and more specifically crowd control.
>>332992293
>>332992495
This is strange, pretty sure increasing strength to 40 made me berserker blade way better.
>>332993114
he didn't say that you retard
he just said that it looks cool
>>332993403
Now he thinks himself as a priest or some shit.
>>332991459
>I can't do basic math
That's 54 points of damage from 22 STR. That's a bit more than 2 damage per point, which isn't horrible.
>>332983035
>After trudging through that area I found out all you had to do was shoot the fucking bell from afar
Im trying to play through DaS 2 and its seriously not fun, i cant get past the fight with the 4 turtle dudes, seriously what the fuck? no other souls game spams you with 4 heavy hitting enemies while you only have 2 estus flasks and you lose max hp everytime you die
>>332993504
Dude what's with all this beef your slinging my man. Need to take a chill pill brah
>>332989992
Lifegem's are one of the stupidest additions to Dark Souls 2.
>>332993668
Know he thinks himself as a stoner. Stop shapechanging so much, find your own personality.
>>332993658
Jump down and use the environment ya dingus
>>332993658
Welcome to DS2
>DeS: challenging and fun
>DaS: challenging and fun
>BB: challenging and fun
>DaS2: dude difficulty lmao
>>332993658
Which area?
>>332993796
ur seriously gonna make me kill myself if you keep this up I'm sad enough already and this is making me super sad
The design of the desert area right before the Duke's Dear Frejya and the misty place make me want to claw my eyes out. A weird layout that prevents you from backtracking and those non-targetable enemies pissed me off
>>332988258
>>332988702
>le ebin super villain reddit talk
DS fanbase is cancer.
>>332993910
>ur
Now as a nigger, megatoppest of megakeks
>>332993886
soldier´s rest
>>332993658
What section are you even talking about? You can't get 4 turtles on you without playing like an absolute retard.
>>332993859
>BB/Dark Souls 1 are challenging but fun, but Dark Souls 2 isn't
Is it nostalgia that blinds people like you, or something else?
>>332993859
>DaS2
>hard
it's the easiest game in the series apart from maybe DeS
>>332993993
Then who are you trying to be Mr big tough computer guy
>OP's point is based on unfinished/glitched graphical elements
>what is Lost Izalith
>what is Old Yharnam
>what is like half of DeS
Ok.
>>332993993
That was obviously a teenager emo, faggot.
>>332994026
>BB
>nostalgia
>>332993658
>>332994156
That was more in reference to Dark Souls 1 than Bloodborne, but if you want to be technical it's entirely possible to have nostalgia for BB.
dark souls 2's pvp was shit garbage. soul memory was a mistake. almost 0 world pvp, i never was invaded once.
0 world pvp means there are a fuckton of useless covenants because those covenants were meant to revolve around said pvp (both blue covenants instantly come to mind). the only time I got to fight anyone was in the bell towers but that isn't really an "invasion" is it.
ADP was a retarded stat. literally made I-frames a stat.
Dual wielding was meh because you just ate up more stamina when attacking. Not to mention if your weapons didn't break poise on enemies (both pve and pvp) you were basically wasting your fucking time playing. That's why dual wielding ultra greatswords was the only way to go.
Hexes were neat however and i'm glad they added them. in the first game you either chose int or faith to complement your str/dex build. They added another dynamic by making it viable to take int and faith which is neat.
every boss is a fucking humanoid
there you go, some positive and negative things about das2. Hope 3 is a step back in the correct direction. it seems like it will be
>>332994075
Once you play your first soul game every other game will be easy, this is a fact
>>332994093
>Old Yharnam
Do you mean the object floating in the sky? I remember when I thought that was an Insight effect.
>>332994119
Not with that spelling, no.
>>332994287
But I played DeS first and in terms of difficulty they go DeS < DaS2 < DaS1 = BB
The only noteworthy area of difficulty in DeS is 5-2, because fuck that swamp and the club giants.
>>332994318
That's why I said teenager. Underages are fucking retarded and don't know how to type properly.
>>332982472
>just as good
It's superior. SOTFS improved upon it even further.
And DaS3 is seemingly topping everything FROM has made so far with the best mechanics from previous games combined.
>>332982472
It's a cool game, But no matter how much i play it i cant help but remind myself of a few god awful flaws
>Have to waste levels to increase your i-frames instead of managing equipment
>Stamina and Equipment load are two different stats
>Much less unique weapons with interesting movesets
>Any magic beside end game spells are dogshit garbage
>Dogshit "Its time to get flodded by enemies" areas
>Iron Keep
In general i just think DS1 was just more polished, And DS1 had 3 memorable and amazing fights while DS2 had a single one that was the first form of Fume Knight.
>Make tough as shit bossfight
>Makes his second stage easier than his first
Just because it looks more flashy doesnt make it better
>>332994612
>every other boss is just a big sword dude
>areas are stuck together with little rhyme or reason
>lifegems
>superior
>>332994240
>dark souls 2's pvp was shit garbage. soul memory was a mistake. almost 0 world pvp, i never was invaded once.
Still leagues better than 1's lagstab mess that tried to parade itself around as PvP
>0 world pvp means there are a fuckton of useless covenants because those covenants were meant to revolve around said pvp (both blue covenants instantly come to mind). the only time I got to fight anyone was in the bell towers but that isn't really an "invasion" is it.
The only real useless covenant is the Way of the Blue, because no one wanted to have the mark of a coward that the covenant was. At the very least, all the covenants had a purpose and worked, unlike the Way of the White, the Princess Guard, and the Gravelord Servants from 1.
>ADP was a retarded stat. literally made I-frames a stat.
I can agree to a certain extent, but at least all the stats did something, unlike 1's RES stat.
>Dual wielding was meh because you just ate up more stamina when attacking. Not to mention if your weapons didn't break poise on enemies (both pve and pvp) you were basically wasting your fucking time playing. That's why dual wielding ultra greatswords was the only way to go.
Dual wielding caestus' or doing a vanquisher's seal build was top tier fun, you didn't have to go full ultra greatsword to make dual wielding worth it.
>conveniently placed statues blocking your path
>rubble blocking your path
I liked pumping up my i-frames and going through the game without a shield, just flipping around. Especially if you have that cool ring that turns you into mist whenever you roll.
>>332993658
You don't even need to go down there if I recall correctly, an optional area would most likely be more difficult than the normal are.
What's supposed to be happening in OPs pic that makes Dark Souls 2 look shitty?
i think this is one of the worst threads /v/ has ever seen
>>332995208
What do you expect from a meme souls thread, it is a casual franshise
>>332995208
Then you're new as fuck.
>>332995208
ever since souls came to pc all the threads have been terrible
>>332995208
Were you here yesterday
>>332995208
where have you been in the last 2 days?
>>332994796
It's kinda hard to blame the game for having lots of sword-dude bosses when there are still more non-sword-dude bosses than any other game in the entire series. DSII has the most content in the entire series by a ridiculously wide margin.
Anyone who actually cares about the areas being stuck together with no real reason is a legit autist, or a dumb motherfucker who just wants something to complain about. Demon's Souls doesn't have a proper geographical map, and we didn't even find out Dark Souls did until a good fucking while after it released. It doesn't actually make the game any better. That's the kind of shit you find out and say "oh that's neat."
Lifegems are cool, fuck you.
>>332995584
>Lifegems are cool
Sure love me some items that make estus null
>DSII has the most content in the entire series
Sure love me some weapons with the exact same moveset as their 15 counterparts
>>332983035
>oldest lie on 4chan
More like oldest lie on neo /v/
yea its a good game
>>332988789
Bandit knife of course
>>332989621
what
>>332994026
Not nostalgia for me. BB was my first Souls game, then I played DaS and now DaS2 and it's really not as good. Now I'm playing DeS and it's fantastic, combat is even faster than DaS.
>>332989737
It only affects multiplayer, that's why. Otherwise it doesn't do anything. It was a good attempt to get rid of burg twinks, just executed wrong, not sure how they could have done it right though.
The level design on DaS 2 is so confusing and dull i just couldn't go on
yea its a bad game
>>332996059
I'm a very co-op oriented Souls player, with 5 or so of those playthroughs being with friends. I never really saw any effect of SM, especially not to the degree that /v/ would have you believe.
DS2 has some flaws, like soul memory and adaptability, but it's an excellent game. Criticizers only prove themselves to be sheep and hypocrite. Especially the sony fanboy ones who suck off Demon's Souls
>baaww life gems
>infinite grass is fine though
>>332993114
>I'm a retard: the post
>>332992495
>hates Dark Souls 2
>played through with 15 characters
WEE WOO WEE WOO
AUTISM ALERT
>>332996275
>my least favorite part of Dark Souls 2 is having to go back to that annoying bitch and hear her talk every time I want to level!
Is it me or are souls games seriously better if you don't level your health at all?
Like, if you level your vit+end, every bossfight just becomes:
>equip high poise armor
>buff yourself
>dps race with boss (that you will inevitably win because you have estus)
At least without leveling your health, the game requires a modicum of skill.
>>332996275
I dont defend infinigrass but way back then that was the only way to heal, Only fault was that it stacked way too high.
But in DS2 you have estus, a limited healing item that at max still heals 800hp up to 12 times, AND lifegems, a 99 stackable incredibly cheap healing item that heals 500hp over 11 seconds.
Lifegems are unnecessary and garbage
>>332982572
https://youtu.be/WhQySxqSANU?t=2m52s
>>332996616
Well, it's pretty much impossible to wield a heavy weapon and fast roll in armor even with Havels and FaP in Dark Souls unless you're doing Giant Dad. If you're doing any kind of weapon scaling build you're stretching yourself pretty thin.
Giant Dad was so successful because it relied on Chaos weapons for damage and literally vit and end gouged like crazy to get enough poise to hyper armor through people's (and enemies) attacks while still potentially being able to fast roll.
>>332996842
Lifegems were a total oversight created by the void in healing you had when you had literally 1-2 charges of Estus.
They were meant to be early game until you got Estus, but it just became the primary way to heal in the game because Estus is slow, and you can use Lifegems on the go and they potentially heal more.
>>332995780
Oh boy, having some weapons with the same movesets but different properties, lengths, damage, and special moves is a real fucking shame. Get off it, retard. DSII still has the most areas, bosses, enemies, armor, weapons, spells, etc.
And why do you care about estus so much? Having alternative healing items is a pretty good idea. I think the combination of DeS and DS's healing systems that DSII brought in by introducing life gems alongside estus was pretty fucking cool. It's not like estus and healing gems were to be used in the exact same situations. They both served a different function, and both had their separate uses, which is pretty neat.
I like the waifus
I think I have literally only been invaded in belltower for DS2 and I played it at release. I played DS1 literal years after its pc release and still got invaded.
Post last character you played
>>332992495
Now image how many characters you would have if you liked the game.
Okay, so according to that webm posted, scaling is useless,right? So should I drop my STR from 55 to about 40? It's nice to hit like a truck, but dying every time a mage looks at me funny isn't.
>replaying both DaS1 and DaS2 in preperation for DaS3
>playing them back to back
>last time there was a 2-3 year gap
>finish off DaS1, love it just as much as always
>enjoying DaS2, albeit not as much
>noticing things here and there I dislike
>get back to Iron Keep
>everything past the great souls
Now I truly see
Dark souls 1 stops being fun after Anor Londo. Prove me wrong DS1 shitters.
>>332996420
>>332997951
Please point out where I said I hate the game.
>>332997263
>"It's not like estus and healing gems were to be used in the exact same situations. They both served a different function"
See thats exactly it, The PURPOSE and INTENTION was neat, but the actual execution was garbage.
Life gems were just more viable to use, were found everyone, and kept you in good health pretty much 24/7, Not only did that reduce the usage of estus, but healing miracles as well, Whats the point of a 5 second animation that would heal 500 when you can get the same results by eating a gem for half a second animation WHILE walking?
I'll buy that DS2 had alot to offer but stop defending a dogshit item
the more the /v/ bandwagon dislikes DaS 2 the more i like it
>>332998375
That's a pretty hot original opinion you have there anon.
Im confused as fuck about this game. First souls game for me and yes i have the scholar of new sin thingy.
My friend is playing this and he just told me to go sorceress when i could pick the class. He told me the game was too hard without magics in the beginning i would end up quitting it.
Well, sorcery a shit, i dont like it and apparently its the shittiest thing i could do in this game. Game going pretty good other then that, but damn i got my shit slapped at the Sanctum City.
So yeah, is there any legit way to make the game a bit more easier since its feeling like a chore now jst to get from bonfire to the another? Any op as fuck builds and gear related to it or will it stay slow as shit as it is now?
>>332998740
Good for you
Dks2 felt fake and that's literally the best was to describe my feelings.
>>332998981
you can reset your stats in at those red robed witches in the beginning, costs 1 human effigy.
i liked to try a new build every 10 hours or so.
>>332998981
Do the generic Hex&Dex build. Spam Resonant Blacksteel Katana to shit on the entire game.
>>332996275
>gems
>shit online
>clunky combat
>rehashed bosses
>mismatched environments
>linking iframes to a FUCKING STAT
>soul memory
>the lighting engine bullshit
yeah nah you're a blind cunt
>>332993579
and still go to the ship, which involves going through the entire level anyway
why are ds2 haters so retarded and uninformed
>>332999376
>shit online
If Dark Souls 2 had shit online, was 1's even functional?
>>332998801
Thanks man I came up with it last night in my daily reddit thread on r/darksouls2!but really it's completely true.
>>332998981
You got trolled hard. magic got nerfed ages ago, literally into the ground.
Start cleric or something with a decent weapon, get enough strength to powerstance maces, and literally pummel your way through the game.
>>332997415
this guy knows whats up
>>332988092
I used chalemeon/talismans and ran around as a box, then sniped people with that bow that knocks people down while they fought the reindeer. That place was great for being a douchebag.
>>332999303
Yeah i reseted them once. Using Heige sword now
>>332999318
Been wanting to try katana. Too bad my friend will never agree with that. If he cant shitstomp through the entire game, the game is A. Shit B. Broken C.Fucking bullshit or D. Broken controllers everywhere.
I just want this nightmare to end and to give him the insanely op as fuck build where he doesnt need to do jackshit and he can just stomp through the game.
>>332997415
She's wearing panties now?
>>332998375
It's pretty widely accepted by everyone that Anor Londo is the climax. Everything after is clearly underdeveloped and unfinished.
It's not bad, but it's still better than that linear gauntlet of
>Drangleic
>Shrine of Amana
>Tomb
>Aldia
>Dragon Aerie
>Back to the Future
>Back to Drangleic
That is literally the worst part of DS2, and wow, just like DS1, it's the end of the game.
The issue is that Dark Souls 2 doesn't have that penultimate boss. What do you have in Drangleic? 2 dragon riders and Looking Glass Knight? Hardly on the level of OnS.
>>332999906
Mods
>>332999923
Right after Looking Glass Knight I just went to the DLC areas in my latest play through, Fume Knight makes a great place to end on. Fuck Iron Passage and Blue Smelter Asshole though
>>332999664
40 STR
40 VIT
30 END
20 DEX
Damn near all of the "hard bosses" in the game are weak to hammer weapons like maces and the Blacksmith Hammer.
>>333001673
>40 str
>30 dex
For what purpose?
>>333001673
40/20 will give you access to pretty much every weapon in the game except for the fuckhuge STR weapons (which are shit in actual application) and the superDEX weapons (which aren't that great)
>>332983035
ZA WARUDO
>>333002038
>>333001859
>>333001673
Why the fuck did they make DEX scaling such garbage? The few dex weapons that ARE usable are only usable because they have a secondary BETTER scaling.
>>332994464
So Basically what he said was true, and that every game you played after DeS was easier.
>>333001859
Fume UGS?
>>333002038
fuckhuge STR weapons are the best though
>people still bitching about putting a few points into ADP before you become an invincible god of rolling in a RPG
Its not like anything in the beginning is hard to dodge anyways
>>333003032
I like DS2. But ADP was garbage.
>>332999923
Nashandra?
Scholar?
The last bosses before ng+?
>>333000527
Lud and Zallen were the toughest for me. I was able to get blue smelter on the 2nd attempt.
boy howdy i sure do love how i cant be human ever in ds1 without getting invaded and having to quit and reload when it inevitably fails to go through so i can not my my soapstones fail to place
>>333004646
what
>>333004712
i cant into english
let me try to explain better
im turned human in anor londo to see how many signs where there to gauge the activity
i keep getting invaded, and they almost always fail to connect
and failed invasions bug the soapstone, making it not place unless i reload the game, where im invaded again
>>332988418
Yeah, I consistently dodged the ogre's grabs during the tutorial with 1 adp. I had a webm but I lost it, point is the adaptability meme is retarded. The only serious hitbox crap was the mimics grab, you can't roll through it.
>>333004972
Oh, I don't think I had that problem. Your best bet is to stay hollow, and turn human right before the fog gate if you want to avoid invasions and need help against the boss.
Either that or summon at the bonfire.
I pretty much ignored Human mode in DaS1 and DeS. DaS2 you get invaded either way, so it's not like it matters one way or the other. You could join the Faggots of the Blue, but good luck with anyone coming to your aid or then being remotely competent in such a way that would almost make taking your chances alone better.
>>333005268
i dont need help against the boss, i just wanted to see how many people were there
i want to be summoned/invade, but i keep getting invaded first, making my soapstone/orb not work until i reload
>>332982472
what am i looking at here
>>333007209
a screenshot
>>332998424
You forgot the fact that lifegems heal at a significantly lower rate, and much less than Estus. It's more of an out of battle heal. The Heal Variants are free, and they heal your allies.
>>333008281
If you don't suck then lifegems are more than enough to mitigate any damage you took in the time it takes for them to heal.
Not to mention popping multiple ups the heal rate.
>>332982472
What is this? All I can see is a floating ice cube tray
>>332999923
Anor Londo is an awful area though. It looks nice, but it's simple, linear, empty and boring. Pretty much what everyone bitches about DaSII areas being.
I really don't see how Anor Londo is better than
Drangleic other than looking nice
>>332997415
My nigga
>>332999656
Shalquoir was a delight to listen to every time. Her laugh is just perfect for a sassy cat
>>332994668
>>Iron Keep
What's wrong with Iron Keep, aside from it being a lava castle in the sky?
I really liked that area, felt like a real "dungeon" and not just a hazardous cave or village of hostiles
>>333010112
>what's wrong with Iron Keep aside from its very existence?
As someone who played DaSII first, I would say DaS is the better game, but not by much. I care a lot more about the combat and RPG systems than I do about the lore or level design, and DaSII was flat out superior in those regards. DaS was plagued with backstab spamming, easy parrying, stagger locking, an overabundance of early upgrade materials and poor build balance. It kills the game for me when I can +5 a black knight weapon after only a few hours and literally oneshot 90% of the enemies in the game. That's on top of shit like poison being completely useless, an arcane and needlessly complex upgrade system, recycled bosses/enemy designs, etc...
The only reason I like DaS slightly better is because DaSII had so many shitty areas. The end of the game was so bad that, while I've played through the game about six or seven times, I've only ever completed it twice.
>>333010112
>What's wrong with Iron Keep, aside from it being a lava castle in the sky?
Yeah bowser's castle is totally fitting in the DaS universe. Especially because an npc states that it got there by sinking.
>>332982472
That's a bad example since Parish has a similar thing with an elevator that goes into the sky.
>>333010112
Aside from its weird as fuck location, it's a clusterfuck with hordes of sanic-fast enemies with areas designed for you to get knocked down into the lava
>>333003440
Can you explain why? Just curious, really.
I liked it since it forced you to dump a few points into it, which made you think a bit more about your build. It's very important for SL 50 PvP because you have to choose between being a bulky knight with a shield or an agile fag with fast roll. It gives some specialization to builds instead of like in DaS where you had giant dads and havelmoms ninja flipping with the DWGR, which was cancerous as fuck until they got nerfed.
>So much of /v/ still salty about DS2
I bet this'll be one of those games people still bitch about ten years from now. Anger is amazing.
I watch streams of the souls games and I find myself more interested in wondering how the buildings were constructed/what the towns were life prior to the demons
>>333011330
Everyone puts the exact same amounts of points into ADP, and always at the start of the game, because DaS2 is unplayable if your agility is low. I cant bring myself to replay the game just because of how much it sucks to have to play the starter areas with a gimped moveset.
>>333011951
>Everyone puts the exact same amounts of points into ADP
Not really.
But I do agree that they need to fix the scaling to be more punishing if they want ADP to matter since 20 points is nothing if you're doing SL 100+ PvP.
For SL 50 PvP like I said though, it really does force diversity in builds.
>>333011330
Dude, I've never seen anyone give a straight answer to this. Everyone acts like rolling around naked and getting maximum dodge frames to spare even over the heaviest, most lingering attacks is their god given right and that they should never have to put any more thought than that into their defense. It's absolutely disgusting. It could have been explained better, but it really was a good thing.
if DaS2 used the same engine it would have been GOAT
>>332994287
I played DaS2 > DaS > Bloodborne in that order. Bloodborne was by far the hardest of them, DaS2 was a piece of cake.
