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>20 hours game

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/146575-star-ocean-integrity-and-faithlessness/73526229

LOL
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>>332935262
and dark souls 3 is 120 minutes long, so what?
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>>332935262
Good. I don't have time to play this, fairy fencer, trillion, Sophie, grand kingdom, and other weeb games by September.
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0 hours for me since the game looks boring as shit.
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>>332935262
Maybe I'm getting old and don't have time for vidya but like I barely ever finish games that are 20 hours longer and any of these 200+ hour plus marathons I usually get way too bored to finish like all the Ubisoft sandbox games.

I'm not advocating anything like the Order. But like, when I replay RE2 I can beat it in under four hours, and I have a great time. But like replaying New Vegas takes fucking forever for it to pick up and get going and like I can't do a 100% run every again with it because I don't have the time.


So like does dollars-per-hour really matter all that much. Shouldn't it be about whether a game is great instead of how many hours it can distract you from how shitty life is?
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>>332935262
>one planet
>no coliseum
>shitty cutscenes

and i was even considering getting a ps4 for this
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I wonder how the post game is
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>A Star Ocean game is bad

Wow I'm really surprised guys
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>>332935262
>20 hours game
Go the fuck back to school and fix up your grammar.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzJ4M-4vABg

How do you even defend this gameplay
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>>332935685
you shouldnt force yourself to 100% every game you play, specially ubisoft collect-a-thon shit, why dont you challenge yourself and see whats the lowest level you can beat new vegas at?
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>>332935938

This.

Star Ocean has always been awful.
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>camera is confirmed to be worse than Zestiria's
SO5 FANS ON SUICIDE WATCH.
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berseria is the last hope for JRPGs now
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>20 hours long
Well fuck this shit.

Star Ocean 2 remains the only good Star Ocean
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>>332936183
Is that even possible?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDimte-mnPM
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>>332935262
Sick. There's a place in this world for short JRPGs
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Chrono Trigger is 15 hours long
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>>332936431
Yes confirmed by nip friend. Wait and see and I'm sure the importers are gonna talk about it soon.
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>>332935262
There's nothing wrong with a game being 20 hours.
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>20 hours

but how long for the Platinum? Since SO4's Platinum could take like 300 hours
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You people are retarded. Long JRPGs are time wasters with tons of padding. 20-30 hour ones are best. The classics like FF6 and CT were 30ish hours. Not these bloated 60 hour messes devs try for today
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I've come to the conclusion that I don't care about the panties switch enough to not play the game, but I care enough to not buy it. I'll get it used when it's in the bargain bin, and for now I'll grab every SO game and play them before playing this. I wish Blue Ocean would finish up with its fanslation though.
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>le games MUST be 100 hours long meme

the witcher 3 is a terrible, overlong, drawn out, piece of shit for this reason

a shorter more concise experience is almost always better. see: panzer dragoon saga. no filler, no bullshit, one of the best jrpgs ever, somewhat forgotten because it was on the saturn
it's far better than FF7 too
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>>332936032
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmk8rRYvymk

My god who even animate fidley's animation it looks like shit
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>>332936032
At least they got rid of the shitty "LOL HIT MUH WEAK POINT" garbage from SO4.
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>>332936580
>Hey this game is only 5 hours long
>YEAH BUT DID YOU COLLECT EVERY SINGLE ITEM
>No? That sounds like busy work
>WELL FUCK YOU THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE CONTENT IS YOU SCRUB
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>>332936185
It's gonna be shit
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>>332936340
Star Ocean 2 is about 25 hours. And that's with a lot of item creation and going out of the way for opera. You can finish the CoT within another 5 hours or less easily as well
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Could you love her, /v/?
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>>332935938

This. Why the fuck were you faggots expecting this to be good? It was a fluke that SO2 is good.
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>people saying 20 hours is fine for a JRPG

holy shit the cuck brainwashing is real, the sweet spot for a RPG should always be 60 hours to 100 for 100%, to a lot more to max every stat and lvl
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>>332936882
I'm the only one who hate her design?
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>No coliseum
>No Peraculus table
Homage to SO3 they said.
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>>332935262
Looks like I won't be getting a ps4 till September then
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>one planet
>PS4 game

What went wrong?
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>>332935262
And I was disappointed that Nights of Azure is like 30 hours and everone saying its short.
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>>332936959
A 20 hour main story can take 60 hours to 100% though.
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>>332936032
>>332936757
Looks like Tales games, but with more space to move during battles.
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>>332937080
>Peraculus table

The fuck is that?
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>one planet in Star Ocean 5
>when even Star Ocean 2 had two planets
>faggots were actually excited about this

When will you cucks ever learn?
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>1 FUCKING PLANET
>1 FUCKING PLANET
>1 FUCKING PLANET
>1 FUCKING PLANET
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>>332936959
>cuck
Stopped reading there.
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>>332937212
30 hours is fine. Some of the best JRPGs ever are around that.
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>>332935262
>>332935262

So the standard for every Star Ocean game except for 4?

Ok, good to hear. Every Star Ocean game fjust from going from beginining to credits was always around 20-25 hours. Don't get Tales of shitposters fool you otherwise.
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>
The biggest complaint is the camera, a lot of people are demanding a patch. Other complaints are poor story pacing, boring story presentation, unskippable scenes, battle system only lets you have 4 moves, Game is short, world is small, lots of backtracking, game felt rushed for fiscal year, not as good as 3 and 4, the effects get in the way and you can't tell what the enemy is doing in battle, the Rock Paper Scissors mechanic of light, heavy, and guard counter is poorly implemented, someone said that WRPGs are way better, someone said this is a worthy demise for the series lol, not enough growth from previous games. There is a whole lot said, but those are ones I saw pop up quite frequently.

>Now, good things people said about the game. The seamless flow of the game is nice and the visuals are nice. Also I like how one guy said that he felt that they cherry picked strong features from each game, even though i didn't really notice anything besides SO3 features.

Suicide watch
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>>332937314
How many planets did SO4 have? :^^^^^^^^)
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>>332937409
idk kaaaay
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>>332937350
> not as good as 4
????????????
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>>332935262
I dunno why you trust anyone who can't read moon. Clearly he skipped through most if not all the dialogue, didn't talk to NPCs, etc.

That said, I might actually get this. I was put off because SO3 was like 80 million hours long, SO4 was just as long and one of the worst games to exist, and I didn't wanna risk it. 20 hours is appealing.
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>>332937343
You gotta realise most people on this board started playing 7th gen. They just pretend to have played the older ones.
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>>332937270
That chess table in SO3 where you can use to battle other playable character locally.
I think might spell the name of it wrong but you should know what I refer to.
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>>332937507
Here comes casualmaru
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>>332937409
4 actually has the most planets in the series. And you can travel between them unlike every other game in the series.
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>>332937350
Guess I'll skip this game. Those are much more problematic downsides than "20 hour game lol"
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>>332937350
>not as good as 4
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>>332937507
What was wrong with SO4?
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>>332937507
shut the fuck up onsokumaru
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>>332936340
SO1 was relative short as well IIRC.
Though it had some replay value due to the fact that you can aquire a vastly different party and some sidequest and even some heavy story stuff depends on your party composition.
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>>332937530
I don't actually. I have no idea what you're talking about and it's definitely not a series staple to be bitching about.
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>>332937509
Not to mention most of them will look for ANY reason to bash a game. So whether they are even getting the game or not, or interested or not, they will run in and post "LOL 20 HOURS" just to have fun shitposting.
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>"Star Ocean"
>One planet

Not even 4 did this.
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>>332937624
Just about everything
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>>332937624
Awful dub at the very least along with a love it or hate it combat.
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>>332937212
how is Nights of Azure
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>>332937665
Every SO main story is short. 3 only felt long because of load times.
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The only joy I get out of Star Ocean games is finding a grind spot or exploit that lets you vastly overlevel and then proceeding to destroy everything else with impunity for hours.
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>>332937624

It would be easier to list what isn't wrong with it.

>Reimi's ass
>Myuria's tits
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>>332936959

Too many games coming out for 2016. Only Twitchfags and NEETfags actually have the time these days to constatly play 60+ hour JRPGs/games in general. 20-30 hours is fine enough.

this would be fine during 2014-2015 cause only like 4 games came out those two years.
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>>332937212
Any idea how long plat takes in Azure?

Also, any bad glitches / crashes?
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>>332937676
Well thanks for telling me that you haven't played the fucking game.
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>>332937624
What is right about SO4?
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Post yfw /v/ was hyping up Star Ocean 5
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Fuck...

When's Berseria
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>>332937350
>unskippable scenes

That's a big no-no for me.
Seriously, in my eyes the best thing that late 6th/early 7th gen has gotten us are commonplace skippable cutscenes.
It's one of the features I dearly miss whenever playing an older game.
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>>332935262
>Nothing on post game
>Skipped to main quests only

Zestiria took me around 26 hours to finish and i did no side quests or anything so this isn't surprising if you're going to rush through it
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>Director mentioned that there will be no DLC since he knows that fans hates the idea of delivering unfinished game
>Backpedal into releasing a short game with little to no extra content
I thought they want to go back to their roots from SO3. What the fuck happened?
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>>332936537
Chrono Trigger is designed to be short for the purpose of replaying since it has 12+ endings that are all reached at different times in different ways.

Star Ocean games have one ending, "but hey have 80 different minor character end scenes and New Game + makes the numbers higher how's that for replay value anon huh huh".
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>Phantasy Star is never coming to the west again
>Star Ocean is all shit all the time
We need more sci-fi JRPG's.
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Star Ocean 4 got me into the series, and people trashed that anyways. I'm still not the least bit deterred from SO5.
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>>332936959
Underage
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>>332938182
>starting with literally one of the worst RPGs ever

c'mon man. you could have at least started with 2 when they got it right for once.
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>>332935685
>im old
>im still too much of a kid to know how to manage my time and spread gaming sessions out
>therefore all games should be short

sure thing you millinial fuckhead.
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>>332938063
It's just going to be as bad as Zestiria.

Transformation was great for Ludger but now it's just stupid.
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>>332937759
To be fair, SO1 pretty much only had 1 planet. The second planet literally only had the final dungeon on it.

SO1 was also really short, around 20 hours too. It sounds like they were just really trying to go back to SO1 roots with this game.
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>>332937687
Yep. This place is only decent for news.
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the battle really looks like clusterfuck

At least you can see shit in Zestiria despite camera going bonkers at times
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>>332938263

I'll be shire to look up 2 sometime.
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>>332937953
I did everything in SO3 besides battle trophies and finishing one of the post game dungeons because I got bored. I googled what you're referring to and it's a sidequest that only opens up at the end of the game and is otherwise completely optional and serves no specific use besides getting fol apparently. Why would you expect someone to remember it when it's easy to never have played it?
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>All those 1 and 2 amazon Japan reviews
Even the Japs are fucking pissed.
Although I believe censorship plays heavy part on this.
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>>332938462
Its not though

They shit on mostly the length and gameplay
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>>332935262
20 hours long just story or with all sidequests?
cause technically Xenoblade X is 30-40~ hours long
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>>332938462
Despite some 'outraged' 2ch users slightly bigger panties means fuckall.
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>Bad Camera
>Clunky gameplay
>20 hours
>Ps3 port

This seem like the worse version from Zestiria
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>>332938263
>starting with literally one of the worst RPGs ever

That's a pretty big claim to make considering 4 is plenty fine as a game. You fuckers go way too retarded about the story being bad in it as though that makes the gameplay and other things suddenly the worst things in the world.
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>>332938462
Oh no fuck them. They did the same shit to MH4 because it was hard or some shit like that. Don't ever trust amazon reviews by Japs.
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>>332938462
2ch always shitposts amazon reviews anon.
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>>332937794
The story of the century, the gameplay of button mashing and Chaos Legion
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>>332938462
>censorship
No, only the vocal 2ch niggas were vocally pissed about that. The amazon reviews are mainly about the simple gamepray
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>>332938462
>average review is 2.7 out of 5 when people on Amazon hand out 5s like candy

You know your JRPG is trash when even the nips hate it

>>332938623
>4
>plenty fine as a game

There is literally nothing good about the game. I think it's fair to call that one of the worst RPGs ever.
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dont Star ocean games normally have large post games?

atleast 3 did
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>>332936882
She's retarded.
What kind of adult wears a diaper?
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>>332938045
Post yfw even if it was good /v/ would've said it was bad
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>>332938462
Something got censored?
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>>332938756
I only ever played SO one and that didn't really have much to do postgame.
There basically only really was the arena, though that was really awesome as fuck and put nearly every Tales Arena to shame
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>>332938740
>There is literally nothing good about the game.

Nice to see you jumping into the hivemind of parroting what others say. I played the thing on 360, I know exactly what was wrong and what was good about the game. It's worlds better than shit like evergrace, secret of the stars and dozens of other actually bad rpgs. Hell it's better than Radiata Stories which most of /v/ readily praises purely because it was a cute game despite the combat being bad and the story being worlds worse than any SO.
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>>332938862
>Star Ocean
>good
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>>332938045
Series was always mediocre at best. It just looks prettier now. Fucking retards.
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>>332935685
Also, you don't have to write "like" in every sentence you fucking faggot. You must be a woman or a pussy preteen queer.
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>>332938126
There's very little value in seeing most of CT's other endings. They're just there as an incentive to play NG+. Quite a few of them are just joke endings like the reptite or Marle and the Frog endings.
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>>332938725
>Chaos Legion

that's a game I never expected to hear on /v/ this day and age
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>>332938756
I think 2 had the memory of the first world you could access at the tournament place. 1 left you stranded on that planet.
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>>332938881
ofc.
something always gets censored and it's always a guaranteed outrage.
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>>332938881
Miki got downgraded to regular panties instead of high cut panties.

>>332938968
Every star ocean has post game. You not finding it doesn't mean it wasn't in the game.
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>>332938881
apparently a set of panties were changed
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>>332938623
The gameplay is awful. Almost every boss is a gimmick fight to find their "weak point"
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>Everyone hates Star Ocean now
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>>332938623

>That's a pretty big claim to make considering 4 is plenty fine as a game.

It looks, sounds, and plays like absolute garbage.
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I just want a good long and comfy jrpg to play

Is that too much to ask
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>>332939093
>>332939071
>>332939083
The japanese version got censored too?
No one messes with my panties.

I don't care if the localized version got censored though.
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>>332935262
I would rather have a 20 hour game that actually motivates me to finish it than a 60 hour game that I can't care enough to play more than 2 hours of
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No good JRPG gameplay since Tales of Graces F
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>>332938263
>Star Ocean 4
>Worst ever
Faggot please, SO4 was incredibly mediocre but there are hundreds of blatantly bad RPG's out there.

If you think that is the worst RPG then you have not played jack shit.
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>>332938410
>I googled what you're referring to and it's a sidequest that only opens up at the end of the game and is otherwise completely optional and serves no specific use besides getting fol apparently
I don't know how you ended up with that result but you can play parecelus table as early as you can get to Aquaria, which is mid point of disc 1.
>I did everything in SO3 besides battle trophies and finishing one of the post game dungeons because I got bored
Why do you even need to lie on the interweb. anon?
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>>332935685
There's a difference between a game with lots of content and a game that takes a while to 100% because there are 500 collectibles and innumerable shitty variations of the same few missions spread out over a large map
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>>332939112
You don't have to follow the gimmick outside of like 4 of the bosses. Usually it's faster not to unless you're super weak or something.
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>>332938597
A huge problem I have with SO is how clunky the combat is and the severe lack of skills. You can only map two skills per range and you'll end up spamming those two like crazy Some of the skills aren't even chain-able for a good chunk at the start I was really hoping SO5 would allow for more skills but it's the same shit and they reused a lot of the skills from SO3. The only thing they added was a guard and counter. This is why I prefer Tales games so much more. They have a lot more depth put to them. Hoping Berseria will be better than Shitiria.
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>>332939151
Ar nosurge, if you like hours of item crafting banter and pretty easy gameplay (play on hardest or else)
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>>332939210
>Graces f
>Good gameplay

I want this meme to end already. Continuous exploiting of weaknesses gets boring fast.
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>>332939215

Again, there is literally nothing good about Star Ocean 4. I know you're desperate for a sci-fi RPG, but let it go. Star Ocean will always be trash.
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>FFXV looks like shit
>now this

Well fuck
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>>332937350
>>332935262
I figured this was probably a low budget effort and my hype got progressively lower the more was revealed.
When combat looks like ass in SO you know you fucked up.

rip in piece Star Ocean, looking at Zestiria sales not even Westkeks will save you.
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>>332939146

Everyone has always hated SO. The series is the very definition of mediocrity.

It's just now the JRPG field is so barren that we've been left with little choice but to hope for the best for this game.

Persona 5 and FF15 are going to be the last gasps of the genre at this rate.
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>>332939151
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WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT SHIT OCEAN GAMES THEY WERE ALWAYS POOP

WE JUST WANT FINAL FANTASY 15 ALREADY
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>>332939210
I thought Xillia was fun, not graces f fun, but still fun. I liked the double teaming and that sexy ass backstep Jude had, fuck that was nice.
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>>332935262
>ni hao
What did she mean by this?
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>>332939195
My aren't you nice. You want the steak while Murikans get the table scraps. Don't you realize the SJWs got to Japan IN Japan and now the devs themselves are choosing to censor the game for all releases so they don't have to change it in localization? You can't avoid the SJWs even by importing. The only way to stop them is to fight back.
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>>332939151
If you haven't played Xenoblade and it's spiritual sequel, I'd suggest you do that.
You can easily clock it 100+ hours, especially the sequel one.
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>>332937071

No. I hate her too. She looks like a fucking potato.
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>>332939367
ALL GAMES LOOK LIKE SHIT
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>>332937350
>not as good as 3 and 4
That's pretty fucking pathetic considering how bad both of those were
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>>332939235
I literally was doing 30 damage a shot otherwise and going with the gimmick did 300 a shot. I was rushing through the game though.
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>>332939482
Not Persona.
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>>332935262

D-DELETE THIS
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>>332939334
So this is neo/v/, someone who has only played games from the last generation.
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>>332939083
>regular panties
I think you mean she became incontinent and has to wear a fucking diaper.
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>>332939393
He didn't ask for garbage.

>>332939429
> The only way to stop them is to fight back.
Haha
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>SO4 is now better than 5

i didnt expect this outcome
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>>332939398
>Implying FFXV doesn't look like poop
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>>332936032
Was that meant to be a cutscene before they fought reverse camp bane? Are they not using angles and just having you control the camera? It looks horrible.

I'll still play it since im desperate for current gen JRPGs and i'll eat whatever slop is given to me
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>>332937794
Hot
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>JRPG
>20 hours

holy shit
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>>332939429
>You can't avoid the SJWs even by importing.
Sure can. LIterally the only time this happened was in that FExSMT game.

Unless you mean to tell me the japanese version got that change too.
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>>332939567
>Dude so I was hanging out with Potter-kun eating Onigiri (hamburgers) and it was so great our friendship meter popped up on another level, sugoi ne Hayabusa-chan?!+!??
Into the trash it goes
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>>332939608
SO4 is better cause they got the baccano artist
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>>332935262
>20 hours
Who the fuck has time for a 20 hours game?
Fucking losers.
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>>332936183
LOL. RIP Star Ocean 5.
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>>332939583
They fought you and won. Now you have to fight them or else say goodbye to your lewd.
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>>332938297
Transformation was enjoyable but instead of giving each game its own spin on the basic combat system it looks like they're exclusively taking the poorer design choices and working from there in newer games

>hey lets take that half baked linking mechanic that completely ruins co-op for more than 2 players and make it an even more integral part of the combat next game
>and also lets make it so that only two of the 6 and a half playable characters can actually link
>yeah that sounds good
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>>332939328
Name a actual jrgp who let you make better combos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4mqBZn99Vc
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>>332936882
I really like the way they animated her expression and movement.

Too bad about the face itself.
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> tfw spoiled by Tales of the Abyss 60 hour long campaign

And I was looking forward to this, too.
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>>332939793
>They won because of bigger panties in one game
wowee

How do I """""""""""fight back""""""""""""?

Go pretend I'm angry on twitter?
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>>332939608
Ha, no.

The characters in 5 are at least confirmed to not be annoying pieces of shit.
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>one planet
>hurr we have a sci-fi settings and you could explore fucking space and shit but here sit on this planet and go on weebo adventures with your nakama

Jokes on me for expecting anything different. Blunder of the century confirmed.
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>>332939667
Yes, the Japanese version was censored too. Hence the Japs freaking out.
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>>332939639
I need more that that to sell me on a game
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>>332939220
Apparently I got the runic chess sidequest and thought that's what you meant. Since you said it was chess like. The first para whatever you said just brought results of a gamefaqs post complaining it's not in the game (yours I imagine), this thread and some foreign shit. The one you just posted had a suggestion for google which is spelled right and is apparently just a VS mode. Which is again optional and pointless. Also the dungeon you get it from is optional. Not even post-game optional, just optional like the Roger dungeon. Hell it might be the Roger dungeon since I've never gotten roger.

I've probably never gotten the thing, because even looking at videos nothing looks familiar in that dungeon.
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why people expected big things from star ocean is beyond me. it's a weeb game taht looks pretty nice, so that probably means they cut corners everywhere else since it wouldn't sell that much anyways.
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>>332939667
Yes that is what I'm saying, Onso. You thought you were safe by learning moon but you are not.
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>>332935262
Yeah and the game continued WAY beyond the main story in SO3.

Not to mention they guy who played this cant read moonspeak so he skipped all of the dialogue.
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>>332939924
same, I'm kinda disappointed, I like star ocean alot, but I guess they can never top star ocean 2
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Is this going to at least include dual audio?

So far I see that as the only way of saving this.
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>>332939834
Uh, Xillia 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYkyuXqSwk
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>>332936027
fuck you murica
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>>332939925
Yes, that is exactly how. As well as organize hashtag protests and contact PR representatives to voice your displeasure.
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>>332938986
Radiata Stories has some charm and is a low budget one-off
SO4 was an entry in high-profile, long-running franchise that people (for some reason) liked and not only was it somehow worse than previous entries in the series, it was just offensively bad in many ways on its own
Yeah calling it one of the worst RPGs ever is a bit far but it's definitely far worse than Radiata Stories and other similar low-budget mediocre JRPGs
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>>332939530
Shoulda used item creation son. 4's shit is fairly gated but you usually have some option to create a weapon far better than anything else available.

Also using Reimi instead of Edge is a good option for most of the game. I played as her for like 70% of it.
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>>332939834
Nigga you can do combobullshit in every modern tales.

Graces f heavily relied on non-stop exploitation of weaknesses in order to regain whatchamacallit action points which got boring fast having to check what the fuck enemy was weak against.
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>>332940042
Yes, dual-audio was confirmed during one of their PR Twitch streams.
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>>332940014
>>332939952
Eh, I'll take being 99% safe rather than being 20% safe. Knowing the localized version there will just be a black void. Surprised they haven't censored green hair's outfit yet.
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>>332939958
Chaos Legion/Folklore/CVCoD style minion summon gameplay systems if you liked those
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>>332939948
You actually go to another planet for the final dungeon, don't believe all the shitposting.
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>>332939958
Soundtrack is pretty good imo
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>>332940052
I'd have to agree if you only say ludger since he's 3 characters in one along with the fact that he has the ability to exploit every weakness due to his cuhrazy range of moves.
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>>332940105
Yeah, that will surely work.

I can't even pretend to care about bigger (not even removed) panties.

>>332940194
>Surprised they haven't censored green hair's outfit yet.
Fiore's original design was changed to what it is now to keep the age rating lower.
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>>332940194
Fuck off weeb.

Eng > Jap.
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>>332939574
that game was good, fuck you
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>>332940052
This
IF you're looking for post-game combo-wanking you should be playing Xillia 2 or Vesperia PS3 not fucking Graces
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>>332940106
>tri-Ace
>high profile
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>>332940195
might give it a rental
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>>332936923
Its because of the PS4 and the mentality that if its on the console it must mean its good and people keep somehow forgeting all the fuck ups this franchise had
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>>332940115
Problem is I hate games where I need to FAQ where to go farm items, what enemies to farm, etc. to make something. I want to either stumble across it or have it be somewhat discernible. Only in the games I enjoy the absolute most will I go for looking up how to find a ton of overpowered hidden stuff.
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>>332940354
>Star Ocean
>not a high-profile series
Nigger
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>>332940223
>You actually go to another planet for the final dungeon
This game sounds more and more like they were trying to remake SO1 but then decided to make it a new game instead.
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>>332940168

thank god

at least I can still buy it and pretend it's a really short 12 episode anime or something
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>>332940295
>Yeah, that will surely work.
Worked for the SJWs.
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>>332940195
>CVCoD

What's that?
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>>332936821

What is the cave of seven stars and the wandering dungeon?
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What do we know about the 1st party sony JRPG and the Current gen none final fantasy square enix JRPG?
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>>332940323
Grandia 3 was awful anon, MILF was the only redeemable part about it.
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>>332936882
What the fuck is wrong with her face
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>>332939574
>>332940323

HOLY SHIET, I remember got panic when changing from disc 1 to 2 unsuccessfully.
Bonus really good theme song I still listen till now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhFx83SnsOc&ab_channel=SkyknightBeoulve
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>>332940507
Sure it did.

I remember ALL those huge campaigns to make panties bigger.
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>>332940405
I never use FAQs for star ocean. I'd just do an extra sweet of item generation points in 4 to see if there was something rare. I don't recall needing too much in the way of drops from monsters for creating stuff mid game. Usually if I wasn't able to make whatever the next upgrade was I'd just skip it out of laziness. But whatever I made before was still better than store bought stuff for a while.
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>>332940520
Castlevania: Curse of Darkness
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>>332940052
I kinda forgot about Xillia 2 lmao.
I really hope the namikiri dolls to appear in Berseria anyways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vy5xaC5TY4
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>>332940606
and the gameplay
everything else was ass which is fine by me
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>lack of coliseum
FAKE
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looks like the game is a prime candidate for a peesea port desu, steamweebs will eat this shit up as is their wont
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Tales manages to still be superior even after a huge fuck up like Zestiria. And Berseria is fixing the problems Zestitira had.

>No fusion/linking whatsoever.
>Each character has their own special mode instead of just one like Ludger.
>Free camera control so it won't be as bad as Zestiria (Still expecting it to be shit)
>Battle system is much better and you can chain artes for much longer

Pretty hyped. Only problem I have is the grafix. Whenever they show a screenshot with the green grass along with a good character model it makes me puke.
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>>332940626
We're talking generalities, i.e. "sexuality in games is good, don't censor, etc." vs "put a burkha on those girls, you misogynist!"
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>>332939960
There isn't even a dungeon specific character in the game.
Now you're just embarrassing yourself after what you've just said that you did everything besides post game and BT.
Just stop.
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>>332940296
?

>>332940295
Yeah but this is an extremely rare case. For the amount of lewd products or lewd characters coming out of Japan, almost none of them get censored from the base product. In both cases mentioned, FExSMT and SO5, they had the American market in mind from the start, so that understandable. So playing games in moon keeps me safe damn near every single time from BS like that. I'm always watching from the side lines whenever localization bitching happens.
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>>332940828
>Hyped for kusoge
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>>332936882
How could I love her with the green haired milf and the titty witch in the same game as her
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>>332936882

No, because i don't have a diaper fetish
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>>332940918
It's going to become more prevalent as time goes on Onso. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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>>332937409
8
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>>332935405
TWO

H
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>>332940829
Japs give fuckall about twitter twatter, this suggestion for the panties came from "overseas" which could mean literally fucking anywhere and from any fucking possible organisation.
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>>332941086
They're not responding to a single demand, anon, just a general feeling of malaise over this shit in the west
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>>332935262
Final Fantasy IV takes like 8 hours to beat, who cares. Plus these numbers aren't objective, I see a lot of people on /v/ saying the original Dark Souls took them 10-15 hours, it took me like 70 hours the first time I played it to get to demon firesage, and then when I played it again 2 years later it took me 50 hours even though I had seen everything except 3 areas previously

After MGSV I really don't care about trying to get an hour of gameplay for every dollar I spend on a game, I'd rather have a good game that takes 15 hours to beat than a piece of shit that I played for 120 hours
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https://youtu.be/37H0Qrl6Otc?t=6m32s

So I decided to spoil myself and I don't think it looks bad. That final area looks cool as fuck. When will Tales games look this good? I really want one to look like this.
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I'd literally take the combat of Shockwave Souls over this mashy garbage.
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>>332940828
>tales superior to anything
Fuck off fujo and take your dlcs with you
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I want to change Miki's messy diaper!
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>>332941254
If that's what helps you sleep at night then believe that.
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>>332941012
I highly highly doubt it, and there really isn't any evidence to support that it'll happen outside of two specific cases. There are even two similar cases were American SJWs tried to intefere with JP stuff and it didn't work - FFXV and Dragon's Crown.
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I tried SO2 but the combat system is literal shit. Dropped it when some witch joined and had to go to some cave.

Are SO3 and the others any better?
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>arpg is shit

wow

Better stick to turn based eh Japan
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>>332935262
20 hours is more than enough for a game, but Star Ocean has always been repetitive shit so this is a bad sign for grindfaggots.
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>>332941675
Yes, SO3 and 4 are all about combining combo
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>>332941675
Later games have a better combat system but worse everything else except music.
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>>332940828
Is baba still the producer? 0 interest then.
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>>332940726
>no coliseum

How? They said this was a game for the fans, how was it possible to not include this? They better come out with a patch or expansion because I'm not playing this game without a coliseum.
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its just some fag on gamefaqs, how can you believe him, wait tll reviews
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20-30 hours is objectively the best length of time for a game.

It gives you a good amount of game, without needing lots of padding and without the game mechanics becoming stale.
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Is the full 100% (not the battle log stuff, but main quests + side quests + character stuff) 20 hours, or just the main quest?
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>>332942032
The guy didn't speak moon, probably skipped everything.
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>>332942032

Main quest. About 20 hours.

>>332942151

He also got lost a lot, which again, adds time.
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>>332942032

Probably just the main quest.

I doubt you could go max level and clear post-game dungeons and wrap up the story in 20 hours.
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Did anyone dump the music from the game yet? This is all that I fucking care about Star Ocean.
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>>332940859
There is a dungeon near where you encounter Roger if you meet him in the cage. The dungeon and that encounter are completely optional. I remember because I went there way later in the game when I was lost and trying to find out where to go and found that dungeon thinking I was making progress. But the enemies were super weak and there wasn't anything to do. Found out on another playthrough where I looked for Roger that that dungeon was related to him.
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>>332942151
>>332942237
>>332942254
Then what's the issue? If you blaze through RPGs just following the main storyline, there aren't that many modern ones that would clock in at over 20-30 hours. The meat is typically in the extra stuff.
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>>332942237

So it's rushed then.

Didn't stop for side questing, exploring and tinkering with skills.

Just a snowflake that wanted to be the "first" so he could be relevant for a week.
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>people unironically literally defend this
They really just attracted the Wii generation with that brick Jesus christ.
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>>332941975
The only coliseum in the series worth a shit is 4's and only because you can fight Ashlay.
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>>332942364

Hey buddy i don't have an issue with it either. I was just telling since you asked. I agree.
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>>332935262

>give the girls diapers

>turns out its a baby game

it was a cry for help, desu
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The list keeps getting shorter

- FFXV
- Star Ocean 5
- Night of Azure
- Bravely Second
- Setsuna
- FF Explorers

+ Persona 5
+ OGMD
+ Sophie
+ Berseria
+ DQ7
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>>332936032
>>332936757
This looks lackluster as fuck. Even the graphics.
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>>332942294

Sakuraba has been shit for years tho.

A good thing that 2 bgm tracks from Valkyrie profile comes with this game.
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>>332942545
>people have faith in Berseria
Holy kek
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>>332942254
You can actually do everything but level to cap in about 30 hours in SO2 if you're familiar with the game.
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