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So, anyone picked this up?
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I'm pissed. I painstakingly equipped all of my characters to ensure that all the gear would carry over. At first, it does, but then your characters get taken away, you get to keep what is in their inventories, but the stuff they wear gets overwritten with default equipment later when you re-recruit them. For what fucking purpose? I could have circumvented this by just loading everyone's inventory before finishing the beginning dungeon, but I'm too lazy to go back and do this.
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>>332932967
Their equipment is put into a chest once they leave.
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>>332933461
No, the chest only contains whatever they had in their inventory. Their equipment, all of it, is replaced by mostly generic, some unique items that the game decided on.
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>>332932967
Do you have the option to start right at SoD? And does it start at the end of BG1?
I was really hoping it would continue from 2, as I like that game so much more. But it isnt too long ago since I replayed both 1 and 2
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>>332934305
You can start right at SoD and your alignment decides your starting party apparently.
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>>332934305
Yes, you even get a bunch of equipment that's not half bad.
I'm just complaining that it's nowhere near the godlike shit I imported from BG1.
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>>332934404
The alignment also seems to decide the party members you can recruit later on. For instance, I ran into Coran, Tiax, and Garret, but could recruit neither of them. They might have accepted if you had a different alignment.
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>expansion to BG1, not 2
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>>332935669
Who's Garret?
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How is the new class?
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>>332935885
Garrick, I mean. Whoops.
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>baldur's gate

No why would I do that? It's trash.

I mean they labelled it on that picture right there.
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>>332935935
People say it's a worse druid.
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>>332935996
Found the fag
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>>332935935
Would be vastly improved if you could control the spirits you summon with the dance but you can't.
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>>332935669
Alignment doesn't decide which ones you can recruit at all actually.
Alignment only decides which premade party you start the SoD prologue with IF you don't import a save.
After the prologue it's identical no matter if you imported or started directly from SoD.
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I should've picked Fighter/Mage, not Cleric/Ranger. Would've made party management a whole lot easier.
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>>332938076
fighter/mage is fun once you get stoneskin
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>>332938076
>>332938153
>playing multiclasses
Plebs.
Either pure or Dual.
Multi is shit.
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>>332938153
It's not fun it's OP you dummy.
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>>332938314
>if it's OP it's not fun
go to bed Josh
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>tfw 2.0/SoD broke mods as expected
Guess I'll play Pillars expansion in the meantime
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>>332938803
Did they even break mods while only playing BG1?
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This shit fucking freezes when on character creation when you choose gender. Wat do?
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>>332938296
Try playing a pure rogue through all three games. I dare you
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>>332938296
Dual and multi are both minmaxing munchkin bullshit

pure and kits or bust
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>>332939180
Having SoD installed while playing BG1 still breaks mods since SoD exists in its own zip file that is applied LAST so any modded files you have applied are still being overwritten by their respective versions from SoD causing all kinds of fuckups with mods like NPC Project.
And even if you don't have SoD applied, just pure 2.0 patch (you can tell between 2.0 or 2.0+SoD by UI. 2.0 has blue/gold UI while 2.0+SoD has black/red UI) the bugfixes they implemented still affected some files which are also modified by mods and thus get fucked as well.
You need to wait for modders to update their shit to 2.0/SoD.
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>>332939529
>minmaxing
Pure Sorcerer is superior to Pure Mage.
Pure Sorcerer is superior to Fighter/Mage at same exp amount.
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>>332939646
Sorcerer requires you to know what you are doing though.
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are shamans really this fucking bad?
this animal summoning is like a worst thing ever. I feel like rerolling already
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>>332940301
You are correct on that one.
It's the thinking man's class.
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>>332940697
They are sorcerer equivalent for druids except shit unlike actual sorcerers. I think they will need to buff them a bit in patches, but then again they never buffed druid shapeshifting which is also garbage.
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>>332938486
The whole AAA hypeshit industry already caters to you, you don't need to ruin the niche titles for the rest of us
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>>332940718
Or you just have to have played the game before.
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>>332940697
That's what you get for playing an ooga booga bone in your nose shaman instead of a real Druid, who are WHITE and GREENPILLED
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>>332940937
You'd be surprised how many people don't know which spells to pick even after playing multiple times because they're so used so having all of them.
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can you export your nigga to BG2 after you finish SoD? What if you were a shaman?
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>>332941229
They're so greenpilled Jaheira'a VA literally fucked off and became a IRL druid.
Or is currently locked up in a rape dungeon.
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>>332941336
BG :EE 1 and 2 got patches with this game so I assume it's all compatible
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>>332941336
You can.
2.0 patch released for BG2 as well so BG2 did receive all the content updates in form of new items and the Shaman class too.
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>>332941452
NATURE TAKE THE LIFE SHE GAVE!
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Anyone want the BG:EE and SoD soundtracks?
BG:EE OST is basically original BG1 OST + the new tracks they made for EE.
SoD is all new music.
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>>332940935
nothing you said makes sense
i can't think of a single niche balanced cRPG
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Some achievement spoilers for SoD.

The Devil You Know
Destroyed the devil Belhifet.


String Cutter
Destroyed the mind flayer Darskhelin.


A Reunion of Friends
Reunited the spirits of Daeros Dragonspear and Halatathlaer.


Your Father's Grave
Reached Boareskyr Bridge, the site of Bhaal's death.


Urge to Kill
Killed Nüber.


In the Name of the Father
Commanded Madele to murder in the name of Bhaal.


Dragon Slayer
Slew the green dragon, Morentherene.


And the secret and also best BG1:EE companion is back
Unpopular
Have Baeloth, Viconia, M'Khiin, Dorn, and Edwin in the same party.

AND THEN THERE'S THIS MASSIVE ONE
Divine Pact
Recruited Caelar Argent to your side.
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>>332942573
That first one...Icewind Dale reference?!
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>>332943301
They said SoD ties into IWD story.
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>>332943359
Wonderful, more fanfiction turned to canon.
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>>332943359
Huh....
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>>332943604
>fanfiction
I love this meme.
Written by Brent Knowles, the lead writer and creative director of BG2.
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>>332943604
From what I've played of SoD it's actually pretty nicely written, but you stay mad spergy.
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>>332943676
>Written by Brent Knowles
What is?
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>>332943754
Main plot
The new team members only wrote the 4 new companions and the returning EE companions.
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>playing BG2 EE for the first time
>Dorn's resurrection gorge has great art and a surprisingly complex quest
>Neera's wild forest is a bunch of trees and shrooms on a neon colored ground
The discrepancy in quality is really jarring
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>>332943676
>Written by Brent Knowles
Is this right? Didn't he just join Beamdog in February?
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>>332943676
And what does he have to do with Icewind Dale?
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>>332943827
Huh, pretty cool. I actually had no idea he was working on SoD
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whats an optimal way to fight as a shaman? just let him stand there and summon animals?

this class feels so useless
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>>332943935
You're thinking of Gaydar aka David Gaider, he was only providing designs for BG2 and only assisted with writing for ToB. He didn't have any important role during BG2/ToB development.

>>332944014
They also got Alan Miranda, the lead writer from Ossian Studios (the initially cancelled but then released for free Darkness over Daggerford expansion for NWN1 as well as the NWN2 expansion Mysteries of Westgate)
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>This mission where you have to kill a lich
>He keeps resurrecting
Wew, I don't remember liches in BG1 and 2 being this strong. I've found out eventually how to do it but it's still pretty bullshit.
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>>332944292
That's what Liches are anon, you need to find the phylactery. It was the same in IWD1.
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>“If there was something for the original Baldur’s Gate that just doesn’t mesh for modern day gamers like the sexism, [we tried to address that],” said writer Amber Scott. “In the original there’s a lot of jokes at women’s expense. Or if not a lot, there’s a couple, like Safana was just a sex object in BG 1, and Jaheira was the nagging wife and that was played for comedy. We were able to say, ‘No, that’s not really the kind of story we want to make.’ In Siege of Dragonspear, Safana gets her own little storyline, she got a way better personality upgrade. If people don’t like that, then too bad.”
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>>332944570
> In Siege of Dragonspear, Safana gets her own little storyline, she got a way better personality upgrade
She still sells you out to some crazy werewolf and dies like a bitch in BG2, way to go
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>>332944570
>I have to be going now
That's actually a sane response to insane people like that.
Also you can purge aka kill that npc.
Safana ain't trans/faggot/bi or anything now btw, so nice shitposting. They just gave her actual personality (like all BG1 NPCs) instead of few lines since BG1 NPCs were quite literally devoid of any personality and most of them devoid of quests as well.
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>>332944570
Oh god that looks horrible.
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>>332944570
At least they don't shoehorn her into your party as a new NPC.
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>>332944870
You mean the black outlines filter? It's optional for tablet fags. But /v/ermin shitposters will still act retarded.
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>>332944570
>not posting the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__6nFM5GER8
I find it funny that the "mansplaining" guy is pushing his agenda harder than any tumblrite
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>>332944570
I didn't even know that NPC existed before people started sperging out about it. The entire conversation can be avoided anyway. It's not like she dumps the tranny stuff on you the minute you talk to her. You have to ask about the name, then you get to hear where it came from.

Mostly just talks about Tempus and where to buy shit. A nothing NPC that you can even kill with no rep loss and some decent XP.
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>>332945024
That video is exactly what any sane person should do.
You don't lose rep and other npcs don't turn hostile either.
Those thinking there's an agenda behind this are fucking retarded.
If there was agenda, xhe'd be permanent shoehorned companion like Anders in DA2, you wouldn't be able to kill xer and most importantly you'd lose rep at even remotely hinting against not liking xher's advances.
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>>332944812

"thank you for sharing your story with me" is also an acceptable answer to talk about something important as the sarcasm would fly right over their head
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>>332945024
I keep hearing this "mansplaining" thing about SoD but the only proof I've seen is some little kid giving you attitude. Is it fucking nothing?
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>>332945453
>Is it fucking nothing?
yes
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>>332939498
pure thief bounty hunter is fun as fuck m8
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>>332939646
>>332940301
>>332940718
>classes mattering when you have five fucking party members
That's what I hate about these games. You can just fill all your bases, so it doesn't really matter how you develop your character
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>>332946468
That's what I love about these games.
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>not being a Paladin to purge the realms of filth

I'll never understand.
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>>332946468
There's a reason why NWN1 went with 2/3 party limit and NWN2 with 4.
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>tfw the game crashes as soon as I finish making my character
>tfw I sent a bug report two days ago but no one responded
What the fuck? I should have patch 2.0 up and running. Should I uninstall then try a reinstall?
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>>332946790
If you had any mods installed before the expansion or 2.0 patch then your installation got fucked, you need a clean install for SoD.
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>>332946886
No mods. I never had BG:EE on this computer before two days ago, just BG2 complete.
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>>332947098
Have you tried using the alternate renderer in the options?
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>>332947168
NOt yet. Never heard of that work around, only the no ambient noises one.

Will give that a try.
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>torrent has 50 leechers and 20 seeders
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>>332946629
>wanting to be lawful good
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>>332945848
Literally the worst rogue kit
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>>332947464
Wow!
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>>332932558
ad&d games are shit. the ruleset doesn't work as a game.
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>>332947464
HIROSHIMOOOOOOOOOT
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>>332947464
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK
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>>332946650
no, the reason was that people are too dumb to control more than one without AI. that is why NWN2 had more, because the AI was considerably better than 1.
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>>332947464
how u do dis how
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>>332945298
>people bitch about a backer poem in PoE and everyone's fine with it
>people bitch about the changed cover of D:OS and that is still perfectly fine criticism
>SoD team shoehorn their political propaganda in the game and openly talk about how the originals suck because they didn't have it, and how they feel they should add more of it
>this is perfectly fine, pointing it out is unnecessary whining

Why again? And don't try to explain it away with "but it can be interpreted as sarcasm!", because that's grade A bullshit.
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rogues in this edition can only backstab when stealthed right? wondering if i should bother with thieves or if it's better to just send a mule to trigger all the traps and still be better at combat.
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>>332947407
>playing an SJW game
>>332944570
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>>332948032
Edwin is literally a trans so why the fuck do you care now about having shit pushed down your throat.
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>>332948053
From my understanding yes
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>>332948175
Just answer the question. Why is it okay when Beamdog does it?
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>>332943919
>Dorn's resurrection gorge
>you can raise that poor fellow
>his mother has nothing to say about it
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>>332948053
Open baldur.ini and add this line
'Game Options', '3E Thief Sneak Attack', '1',

Then open baldur.lua and find
SetPrivateProfileString('Game Options','3E Thief Sneak Attack','0')
Change 0 to 1.

You're welcome, you now have 3E backstabs.
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>playing BG2
>get some important info that doesn't show up in the quest log
>add it to my journal
>game crashes
kill me
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I'm sick of these fantasy dungeon and dragon rip offs.
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>>332944570

oh fuck
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>>332948175
>Scumfuck evil wizard
>turns into a woman
>starts raving about male chauvinism
BG2 had some great lines
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>>332948623
Way to fall for /v/ shitposting, when you need to actively interrogate that NPC to learn this and you can still kill it.
I don't see you hypocrites complaining about the faggot in New Vegas or Witcher 3.
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>>332948869
The quote is the scary part there, you fucking retard. You can ignore a single NPC if you wish, but these are the people in charge of the IP, and they just stated, under no uncertain terms, that they want to push an agenda.
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>>332944570
>Jaheira was the nagging wife

I guess Xzar is sexist too since he is if of a specific gender and has negative qualities?
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>>332949092
Quote? You mean a fucking greentext on /v/ with no source? Eat shit.

>I LOVE TO SUCK DICKS - ANONYMOUS FROM POST No.332949092
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>>332949219
Nice try. Here is your source. Click it if you wish.

http://kotaku.com/the-struggle-to-bring-back-baldur-s-gate-after-17-years-1768303595
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>>332949219
I was on the fence on whether to buy bg EE now that's on discount, but fuck that. Now that I know the quality of the new writing, I'm not even gonna bother pirating.

Back to the gog version.
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>>332939498
Why would you play anything else?
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>>332949490
>But it’s not just about representation for representation’s sake. Beamdog wanted to give players options.
That doesn't sound too bad
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>>332949567
>>332949490
>a fucking offhand hidden line that has literal same shit in Witcher 3 and New Vegas that's also hidden
>bad
>BUT WITCHER 3 AND NEW VEGAS ARE OBSHITIAN GOTY BUY MORE

I hope you die painfully.
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>>332949150
It's daft to make sweeping judgments about the BG1 character writing because BG1 barely had characters. They have a little thing when they join you, a conflict with an NPC you may or may not recruit, maybe a quest interjection or two and a pep talk before Sarevok
BG2 NPC's have character arcs, personal quests and are written well enough that people fell in love with Bioware
>>332949219
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=If+there+was+something+for+the+original+Baldur%E2%80%99s+Gate+that+just+doesn%E2%80%99t+mesh+for+modern+day
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They don't rewrite the old stuff to be less "problematic" right? It's just the new content right?
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>>332946468
>not going solo

Also AD&D isn't that much about builds anyway. People love rolling forever to get 18/00 but the truth is that even with 10 in all stats, all classes have a base competency that can carry them trough the game.
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>>332949742
none of the old stuff changed
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>>332949678
You are the only one talking about Witcher 3 and New Vegas here, friend. I didn't even play those games.
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>>332949832
Actually that's not 100% true they changed some things like with quest rewards. I know the Djinni in Irenicus' Dungeon has multiple options for rewards based on your class for the EE. None of the dialogue was changed.
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>>332949678
>witcher
>fallout post 2
>good in any way
nice try faggot.

Modern RPGs are shit, and that quote is a clear showing of why. Instead of just making a good game they want to push their shitty agendas and political views.

And by the way, you fucking faggot, if that guy was talking about how he hated woman and wanted to punish all the female characters from the games for daring stepping out of the kitchen or some shit I would hate it just as much.

I don't want your fucking politics in my games
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>>332949742
As far as I know Hasbro doesn't allow them to change anything like that, so they couldn't even if they wanted to. Now if they make a new game, they are free to write whatever they want. Even for returning old characters.
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>>332949490
>>332949567
>literal lesbian furryshit girl companion in KotOR1
>A OKAY GOTY GAME
>literal faggot companion elf in DA:O
>A OKAY GOTY GAME
>a literal fucking faggot companion dude in glasses in New Vegas
>A OKAY GOTY GAME
>a literal faggot main plot important NPC in Witcher 2
>A OKAY GOTY GAME
>a literal faggot quest giver in Witcher 3
>A OKAY GOTY GAME

>an offhand NPC that's not a companion or even part of plot, a literal background NPC you need to actively even coerce into dialogue and explore dialogue options before you find out it's trans
>WORSE THAN HITLER SJW SJW SJW SJW 1!!11!!!!

I fucking hate neo/v/ermin and the hypocrisy.
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>>332950159
God forbid a game tries to include things that happen in real world.
I bet you think faggots and transubhumans don't exist in real life either huh?
You fucking inbred cockmongling shitslurper.
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>>332950236
Why can't you idiots differentiate between characters that happen to be gay and the characters being gay due to the devs wanting to push their agenda?

That's what makes them SJWs you know.
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>>332950236
What part of the "developer statement of wanting to push an agenda" was hard to understand?
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>>332950236
>DRAGON AGE
>WITCHER
>KOTOR 1

GOOD
top fucking kek

kotor 2 with all the restoration mods might reach mediocre at best, none of them hold a candle to any of the infinity engine games.

>>332950349
Fuck off, I don't want your political bullshit, regardless of what side you are on.
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>>332944570
Another SJW dev? Thanks anon, was considering buying this but dodged a bullet.
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>>332950439
>>332950450
BioWare, Obsidian and CDPR all said those same exact things and I don't see you boycotting their games you double standard hypocrites.
Also which part of NON IMPORTANT BACKGROUND NPC WHICH YOU NEED TO ACTIVELY FUCKING TALK WITH TO FIND OUT do you not understand?
HOW THE FUCK IS THAT AGENDA?

Agenda would be the NPC being PINK COLORED, HAVING A FUCKING EXCLAMATION MARK ON TOP OF THEIR HEAD, EXCLUSIVE PORTRAIT, SUPER SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE QUESTLINE AND IT BEING PLOT IMPORTANT AND A COMPANION

THAT'S AGENDA.

A FUCKING OFFHAND BACKGROUND NPC YOU NEED TO ACTIVELY INTERROGATE IS NOT AGENDA

EAT SHIT YOU FUCKING NIGGERS I WISH I COULD FUCKING MURDER YOU BECAUSE YOU SACKS OF SHIT DON'T EVEN FUCKING PLAY VIDEOGAMES
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>>332950236
Not that guy but it's not the presence of faggots in games, its the worthless shithead developers that have to go and pander and then pat themselves on the back for it.

Thank goodness, now that self absorbed 1.5% of the population feels important, and spoiled millenials feel better about themselves.
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>>332950576
What about the other political bullshit like slavery and racism already present in BG?
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>>332944570
>In the original there’s a lot of jokes at women’s expense
>Or if not a lot, there’s a couple

I... what? Did she just realize what she was saying made no sense at all, but decided to roll with it anyway just so she could complain about (the non-existent) sexism?
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>>332950713
Read the dev quote from earlier in the thread. It explicitly says "we want to push this agenda", and still you pretend like nothing is going on.
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>>332950728
>fantasy racism
>political

sorry to say but drows aren't real people

>slavery
I don't like the fact that it's presented as unambiguously evil, instead of just being a part of the setting, but that's part of D&D and alignments. Not put there for political reasons.
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>>332948175
>18 years ago trannies were a running joke among game devs, even faggots like Gaider
>now you can't make a joke without having your life ruined

those were the good days
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>>332944570
>Safana
literally who?
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>>332950910
She's not even the fucking writer of the game.
She's the PR manager.

You dumb sacks of shit.
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>>332951051
>The company's spokesman doesn't speak for the company
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>>332950937
>fantasy trannies
>political
it's all or nothing anon
does this mean edwina in BG3?
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>>332951175
PR managers actually often speak bullshit and you're underage as fuck if you think PR speak represents actual shit behind the scenes.
In fact you don't even seem to know the definition of PR in the first place.
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>>332950884
you're saying it like it isnt normal sjw behaviour
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>>332951051
You were saying?
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>>332950713
>BioWare, Obsidian and CDPR all said those same exact things and I don't see you boycotting their games

but I don't play anything by any of those developers anymore

are you going to keep repeating the same shit all day?
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>>332951386
>I DONT PLAY VIDEOGAMES LEL
Then kill yourself, why the fuck are you even here? Don't you have a Hitler portrait to be doing a nazi salute to on /pol/ and a fucking literal retard with no actual progam meme candidate to vote for?
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>>332951194
>joke about some faggot
>political
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>judging entire fucking game based on a fucking non important background NPC instead of objectively judging it as a whole
And this is why /v/ermin are scum that needs to die.
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>>332936154
>Worse Druid
Jesus Christ, how horrifying.
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>>332951280
They are the mouth piece of a company. If someone says their foot hurts, you don't disregard them because their mouth said it. So yeah, they should be well informed.
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>>332951525
Are you clinically retarded by chance? He does not play the games of those developers, that doesn't mean he doesn't play vidya at all. Those three studios do not make up the netire industry.
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>>332951525
I play baldurs gate
and I came here to see if the enhanced edition and the new expansion were worth buying.

Now I know they're clearly not
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>this thread

Why is this board so dumb? Why do you guys get so easily baited into everything? Why can't you for one second think before making a post? Why do you have to be so reactionary? Why do you feel the need to shit on games you don't even play? Why do you get so angry when people disagree with you? Why do you spend so much time here? Do you even play games? Why do you have such a bitter attitude to games not even out? Why do you pretend that a game is either a massive success or a giant flop? When will you stop thinking in binaries? When was the last time you even played a game you enjoyed and talked about it here in civil manner? Do you even remember?
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>>332951758
>WHY
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>>332951758

No particular reason. I thought it'd be funny.
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>>332951646
Fighter druids are pretty good in my opinion for the insect swarm spell. It's a lifesaver for group mage fights.
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I'm playing BG1 for the first time as a Paladin and about 3 hours in.

When does this get good?
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>>332952090
when you pick inquisitor
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>>332944570
>>332949567

much apprecieated, oh boy I really cant wait to see what they will do with the IP in their next title!

not even worth torrenting
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>>332952184
You won't even notice it if you just play the game you dummy.
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>>332952090
when you skip to BG2
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>>332952090
These games are trash, don't bother.
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>>332952160
So can I change my class?

Or should I just re-roll?
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>>332952316
>>332952292
God damnit did I honestly get memed into this purchase?

I bought it because it was $5 on Steam and I love Morrowind and other WRPGs but I'd never played an IE game.

Is BG1 honestly not worth playing?
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>>332952320
Just get a full party. Even if you don't like your class you'll be managing spells and buffs with your other party members. I would recommend kitting your dudes out with ranged weapons in the early levels before you get spells.

>>332952450
It's worth playing it's just that a lot of people consider BG2 the pinnacle of cRPGs and it improves on everything from BG1. It won't have the same impact if you skip the first game.
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>>332952090
Right after Heya, it's me, Imoen.
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>>332952450
BG1 isn't great but BG2 is.
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>>332951758
What exactly are you trying to say here? People are angry about something said by the IP holder, who want to make a BG3, want to do a Torment EE, and tried to convince Bethesda to allow them to do a Fallout 1-2 EE. That's quite a lot of IPs people care deeply about.

And yes, I do play games. In fact I am playing one right now. Thank you for asking.
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>>332952450
BG1 is fine for what it is. Play it if you want to see it to the end, and import Charname to BGII. Otherwise just skip and never look back.
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>>332952450
>God damnit did I honestly get memed into this purchase?
yes.
Don't get fooled by people talking about planescape torment either.

These games have completely trash gameplay, are easy as fuck, and the story is predictable.

Only reason they're memed so much is by D&D fags because all other D&D games are much much worse.

If you don't like D&D don't bother.
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>>332952450
>Is BG1 honestly not worth playing?

its worth it, the game picks up after Nashkhel Mines

but if you feel like you can't take it anymore even then, don't let the whole saga rot and just skip to BG2 or you will miss out hard
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>>332952668
>playing hipster SJW indie garbage
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>>332952736
Torment's story wasnt predictable at all, you're trying way too hard to be edgy here
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>>332952828
You forgot "meme" and "shill" in your vomit of buzzwords.
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>>332952884
If he can't appreciate BG1 he doesn't deserve to appreciate bg 2 and torment
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>>332952828
I don't even know how to react to such idiocy.
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>>332952450
BG1 came out in a time when people were ok with generic plots and characters so long as it mimicked their pen-and-paper adventures they had as kids/teenagers. Most people ITT unironically believe Sarevok (the main bad guy) is anything but a generic, edgy, chaotic evil villain.
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>>332950236
Look Beamdog, your game is just SJW shit m'kay?

Im not buying it and I already told all my friends to not buy it. Deal with it.
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>all this talk about a single tranny in the entire game in a corner
>nothing about encounters or itemization
How are they? Is it challenging?
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>>332952768
>>332952708
>>332952552
>>332952615
>>332952609
How long is it? I'm willing to give it a chance but if it's like an 80 hour slog I'm just gonna move on to the next game on my backlog or BGII
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>>332953395
It's not very long. BG2 is a lot longer
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>>332953060
It's not like Irenicus is any better. At least Sarevok was fun to fight.
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>>332944570
Well I was going to pick this up, but yeah na. Ill pass.
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>>332953395
Depends on if you're exploring everything or not.
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Still waiting for my Steam key, even tough I spent my jew money on the CE.

Useless twats.
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>>332944570

Was really considering buying this but I guess now I don't even need to pirate it either
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>>332953395
You can complete it fast if you don't do anything extra. I like BG1 for what it is: a low-level adventure without the need of so much magic stuff, where as in BG2, anything less than +2 enchanted weapons is instantly trashed.
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>>332953505
Irenicus was carried by his voice actor
also he had a reason to do what he did, so that's something.
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>>332949567
shit i already boutght it before reading this thread. Is the writing any good?
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>>332951043
warrior companion you find near the south coast with all the sirens. the only benefit to her is that she is the daughter of the leader of the flaming fists so it helps when you get captured
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>>332951293
This is still quite hilarious though.
"The game was full of sexism! ... Okay, maybe not, let's just agree it had some sexism, okay? Now let me vent."
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>>332953793
If you haven't played it yet you can refund
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>>332953868
Did they change her? She was a rogue.
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>>332953709
Sarevok had a reason too. He had a legit shot at achieving godhood. That's as good a reason as any.
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>>332944570
How do you get the black line outlines on the characters? That a mod somewhere?
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>>332953709
Sarevok had something to do with CHARNAME, Irenicus should not have been a main villain in anything regarding bhaalspawns.

>>332953868
That's Shar-teel and she is found at Mutanin's garden. Safana is a thief at the Sword Coast.
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Did they upgrade the graphics? Or change anything? It seems from some of the screenshots that they did

like >>332944570
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>>332953793
The BG2 lead writer worked on SoD so if you liked BG2 writing you'll probably like it too.
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>>332954039
his voice actor wasn't as good though
also irenicus just had better villain lines in general
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>>332950713
>EAT SHIT YOU FUCKING NIGGERS I WISH I COULD FUCKING MURDER YOU BECAUSE YOU SACKS OF SHIT DON'T EVEN FUCKING PLAY VIDEOGAMES

only your video games Trent
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>>332954096
Those black outlines are optional. The character sprites are the same as far as I know but the backgrounds in new areas are new of course.
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>>332954150
Times change, people change, and job requirements change just as much, especially in the case of mass media.
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>>332950236

Apart from DA:O, none of the studios behind those games issued statements making it clear they're pushing an agenda. They had gay characters yes, but they didn't make a giant thing about it, or smugly tell people to fuck off if they didn't like it.

I'm glad SJW game developers these days are insufferable loudmouths, it means I know what agenda pushing 'games' to avoid (like SoD)
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>>332951051
she is a writer friendo
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>>332954205
The hilarious part is that the really good lines weren't even said by Irenicus himself. Those dreams were not really his doing, but your Bhaalspawn blood speaking to you.
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>>332954150

He "joined" beamdog in September.
He worked for like what? 3-5 months on the game?
http://blog.beamdog.com/2016/02/beamdog-achievements.html
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How do you besiege a spear
Why
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>>332954072
oops your right, safana was the one who wanted you to steal the manual of health from the cave right?
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>>332954717
Can you even into dragon porn?
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>>332954580
Irenicus is pretty much the Sephiroth of WRPGs.

>>332954746
Yep.
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>>332954717
Dragonspear is a castle
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>>332935416
why would you want to be overpowered for most of the game
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>>332953236
who gives a fuck?
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>>332954919
If the developers didn't want the expansion to be a continuation of BG1, they shouldn't have made it a continuation of BG1.
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>>332944570
>"If people don’t like that, then too bad.”

Top tier PR right there
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>>332955130
Me? What kind of question is that
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>>332954062
beamdogshit put that filter in the game themselves
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>>332954580
Pretty sure his best lines were said by himself though, I hate all of those dreams so I don't count those as his lines.

>I CANNOT BE CAGED...
and so on
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>>332955641
Ah, my bad then. I'm very fond of the second dream so I tend to assume others do so too. That outburst at Spellhold was a bit weird for me, like they couldn't make up their minds if they wanted "cool" or "cheesy" dialog.
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>>332955641
If only everyone else wasn't a complete retard. But then he would have been even more irrelevant.
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>>332944570
thanks for warning sjw dev game not going to spend single cent for their games
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>>332956047
again, the voice actor pulls it off.

>>332956169
Honestly, I never felt sarevok was the villain of bg1. He's just a guy, who happens to be trying for immortality. I go there and kill him almost as an afterthought in my own quests for more levels.
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>>332955641
>hating the dreams
I liked them. The BG1 dreams were great thanks to the narrator too.
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>>332956530
>The BG1 dreams were great thanks to the narrator too

They were narrated by Sarevok's voice actor, right?
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>>332956648
yes
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>>332956530
I liked bg 1 dreams but not bg2
bg 2 went on for too long, making it a pain to replay trough.
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EE editions AI script is really good 2bh
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>>332953236
Well, since we are not going to discuss this, I might as well post someone's impressions who does. He doesn't seem too enthusiastic.
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After reading this thread I still have no idea if Seige is good or not.

You are the worst /v/
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>>332957582
>RPGCodex
>enthusiastic about anything other than games developed by their own posters
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>>332957582
I like specialization items though. It sounds like he's not too far in but BG1 Jaheira is pretty bland too. She only becomes an interesting character after Khalid dies.
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>>332932558
10 hours in; it's decent so far. Don't really see how the characters are written as more or less sexist. Than women comes across as a typical girl getting in over her head trying to prove something.
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>>332957913
Very few of their posters actually develop games. It's just the devs who produce games that mash well with the taste of the Codex tend to sign up and sometimes answer questions. But even Beamdog has representatives on the Codex.
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>>332957582
Codex hates everything
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>>332958260
That's wrong though. Or true only in the same sense that /v/ hates everything.
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>>332958073
Can you fuck the goblin
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>>332958742
Don't think we've reached peak progressive just yet.
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>>332952736
spotted the cinematic cocksucker
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>>332959184
>using cinematic like it's a bad thing

it's 2016 man
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>>332957582
>RPGCodex

wew lad, real shocker there.
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>>332959357
Feel free to find something from somewhere else that actually addresses encounters and itemization.
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>>332959345
wow


memes
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>>332958260
>>332959357
nothing wrong with codex
there are some major autists there but that goes for /v/ as well
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>>332959145
they seem pretty hung up on stuff like that though. it be a lot better if they went full degenerate. it's more fun.
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>>332960247
Wouldn't suprise me if 'she' turned out to be trans.
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>>332960247
Do they really? There's only one tranny character in a corner of the map in all of SoD that only tells you if you ask about it. I never used any of the EE companions so I can't speak for them but this whole business seems blown out of proportion. Would be funny to see an Edwina romance though.
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>>332943676
>Written by Brent Knowles
The credits say:
Andrew Foley
Amber Scott

Brent did some QA
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>>332961409
The credits are obviously wrong, anon, and only an autist like you wouldn't recognize it. How dare you insult our great and glorious leader Beamdog, savior of Baldur's Gate and crpg fans everywhere?
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>>332944780
Who is this moron Dev? I need to know.
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>>332961795
meet
>>332951321
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>>332951321
Man, woman or trans in either direction?
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>>332962082
100% female as far as I'm aware.
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>>332962082
woman
it was easier to tell in the beamdog stream
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>>332957582
>vegan Jaheira
...why
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>>332962353
>>332962356
Okay, but is she trans?
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>>332962529
no

>>332962478
It's a meme
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>>332951321
Holy fuck
could she be any more stereotypical?
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>>332961896
Dear god, can someone just kill it and stop forcing these modern fucking ideology shits into a world that is pretty much black and white and there is GODS around?
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>>332944570
>Mizhena

Is this a fucking joke? In Czech muž means man and žena means woman. They literally named their shitty NPC male-female, and that's the truest reflection of who it is? I'm at a loss for words.
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