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I still can't believe it's happening
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It's going to be another Metal Gear Solid V, mark my words.

A bunch of neat parts that never come together as a whole. The fact that this game has gone through so many revisions and that they are still changing shit this close to release is a huge red flag. It feels Nomura had some cool ideas for Versus XIII that never actually formed into a concrete game, and that they are now really unsure of what the fuck XV is supposed to be.
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>>332911025
This already has more content than all of MGSV in Episode Duscae in terms of varied content and different areas to look at instead of empty desert with 30 copy-pasted outposts with the exact same people doing the exact same patrol in the exact same way and absolutely nothing outside of that exact same copy pasted outpost.

It also has more STORY and character building in Duscae than in the entire of MGSV.

So no, not really.
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Can you believe the frame rate?
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>>332910876
we batman now
>Smug anime grill.jpg
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>>332910876
when does it release?
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>>332911112
You say these things, but where's your proof? Just SE saying "yea man our game is so huge, it's gonna have so much content"? I seriously question that this game will have the sort of content level it says it will, especially with the way SE has been making games for the past 6-7 years.
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>>332911025
I'm genuinely worried you might be right.
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>>332911025
FFXV won't be an unfinished game.

What it will be is a game that the fans of FF 13 versus didn't want, but will get. Now whether or not they'll like it is something that'll be resolved at launch.
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>>332911025
If that honestly happens im just going to ignore all AAA games for a while. Like all big games these past few years have been so fucking lackluster
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>>332910876
I can't believe this is happening either.
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>>332911201
they have 5 months
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>>332911025
Well, judging by that last demo I really doubt it's gonna end up being the only good game in a shitty cringfest series.
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>>332910876
The only reason I'm giving this any attention is because Final Fantasy was once a franchise known of quality. Maybe they will pull through, but so far it seems the West will lead the videogame industry for the next two decades again.. At least some of us got to see the japanese industry when it was relevant, back in the 90's and early 2000's.
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I hope it's good.

It's been too long since we got a final fantasy that wasn't shit.
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>>332911523
>but so far it seems the West will lead the videogame industry for the next two decades again..

With quality titles like Fallout, Far Cry Primal, Assasins Creed and COD!!!
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>>332911523
Japan still makes the best games.
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>>332911638
As ridiculous as it sounds, he's right about the west dominating. We're pretty fucked.
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>>332911467
witcher 3 has it worse even running at 60fps, still I've only seen people defending the atrocious combat and controls
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>>332911504
The platinum demo was incredible. I loved the dining room environment especially, settings like that give you a lot of room for interesting mechanics and gameplay opportunities. If the whole game is roaming a big field or driving on a road I'll get bored quickly, but if they do switch it up and have dream segments/more fantastical locations I'll love it.
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>>332911696
I don't know why Japs and so many other people will happily standby and watch consoles die so they can play Farmville and Miyamotos freemium pay to MS paint on their smartphones
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The CE is ass, the limited edition or whatever is slightly better but still ass (that artwork tho).

I was expecting something cool.
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>>332911696
if dominating in sales you're right, but the yearly rehashed franchises say otherwise on quality
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>>332911523
Japanese games are better than ever and Western games are worse than they've ever been
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>>332911523
This picture always amuses me, especially how the chick at the top even still has the indent for lips, and then the mouth randomly on the side.
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>post yfw Stand By Me started playing
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>>332911671
Nope. It's oversaturated with fanpandering garbage. We will never get the golden age back.

>>332911638
You may say it like that, but name any new japanese games with more quality and effort put into it than these titles.
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>>332911848
Nostalgiafags run rampant on /v/ and love to cry about how modern japanese games are "weebshit" and how older japanese games weren't and jrpgs are all bad now
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>>332911848
>3D bullet hell
Deer horse jesus, NO!
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>>332911887
Literally proving >>332911896 right
Fuck off back to /vr/
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>>332911467
don't talk to me about input lag unless that's a benq
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>>332911763
I can't say I agree, I had very low FPS, unresponsive controlls, at one point my magic just wouldn't work at all and at that last fight I got some white screen bug, which at first I tought was some spell he uses to blind you or whatever, but then I beat him and it didn't go away at all until I restarted the game.
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>>332911946
>stop telling the truth!!

No anon, you should go back to deadchan.
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>>332911887
>but name any new japanese games with more quality and effort put into it than these titles

Digimon Cyber Sleuth, Bloodborne, Atelier Escha and Logy, Sueprbeat Xonic although that's technically Korean.. hmm

You know I'm kinda stumped, not much came out last year but still better than farcry rehashes
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>>332910876
My 3cts after playing the demo
>the whole kid part sucked
>only the last battle is interesting
>at first I was like "the fuck is this mess ?"
>thought it will play like a DMC-like game
>it's actually a great A-RPG system, there's a lot to do in a single battle
>dodge, teleport, parry, lifesaving QTE/prompt, MP regain while hitting, "limite break" thing... Each type of weapon has its own way to play
>the more I play the more it getting fun
>luminous engine seems great (animations, light, FX, day/night cycle), but either consoles can't handle it, either they rushed the demo

So I still haven't seen how big the world is, how exploration or missions/sidequests are delt with, but I'm hyped, hoping they'll fix the terrible aliasing/blur/10fps for the release.
If not, PC then, someday.
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>>332912014
>>>/vr/
Whiny cunt
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>>332912015
But none of that is near the quality of Witcher 3. I'm amused that you have so few titles to pick from that you even name a fucking digimon game.
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>>332911783
can only find the deluxe edition (shitty steelbook with a movie disc)
have a link on the one you're talking about?
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>>332911359
Where's my proof? Maybe where I already said it was in that exact post which had nothing to do with what SE promised.
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>>332912031
Duscae gives a better representation of the games size, it feels really quite open ended with vast plains, it actually takes you ages if not more than half a weather cycle to simply travel from one side of the map to the other. The combat in duscae also has more weapons and options.
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>>332912015
>Atelier
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>>332912092
Witcher 3 is a shitty game.
You can love the lore all you want, the gameplay is awful in every way possible.
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>>332911887
>name any new Japanese games with more quality and effort put into it than these titles
How new are we talking?
>Nier
>Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII
>Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Milennium Girl
>Etrian Odyssey Untold 2: The Fafnir Knight
>Xenoblade Chronicles
>Xenoblade Chronicles X
>Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon
>Splatoon
>Bloodborne
>Resident Evil Revelations 2
>Monster Hunter IV Ultimate
>Stranger of Sword City
>Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance
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>>332912174
You say that, but the gameplay is nonexistant in all of your titles except memeborne, and even then it's still subpar.
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>>332912173
>i'm going to shitpost about games i've never played
It's so easy to spot people who have never touched an Atelier game in their life.
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>>332912174
spotted the bloodbornefag
how's that 0 awards going?
still salty?
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>>332912092
>I'm amused that you have so few titles to pick from that you even name a fucking digimon game.

Do you genuinely only measure a games quality by it's budget and adult-friendliness? What made digimon a bad game according to you other than the name of the game? Did you even play it or know anything about it? If not you are everything that is wrong with the gaming industry.
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>>332910876
is this what weeaboo's play these days
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>>332912221
Splatoon is a pretty good game bu..
>Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII

Ok, you are just baiting now.
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>>332912247
>spotted the bloodbornefag
>how's that 0 awards going?

Hi PC fag, at least we got to play both games
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>>332912293
>Lightning Returns
>not good
Literally the best of the XIII trilogy.
>implying I'm baiting
Lightning Returns is 10 times the game Fallout 4 or Far Cry will ever be.
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>>332912328
The best lump of diarrhea is still diarrhea, anon.

I feel bad for you now.
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>>332912316
I like Witcher but people who defend the combat are delusional. And unlike the shitty framerate in Bloodborne, it'll never be patched.
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>>332912247
wtf are you talking about ?
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>>332911025
>open world

yah, the japs don't know how to do open world.
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>>332912382
Westacuck getting BTFO and having to fall back to shit eating analogies. Every time.
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>>332911025
>It's going to be another Metal Gear Solid V, mark my words.

I doubt it.
MGS5 was severely unfinished and screwed with established lore and characters.

For FF15 to not deliver it would need to run like shit, play like shit and have a shit story & characters which doesn't really seem that likely based off what we've seen and played so far. SE also isn't exactly rushing out this game.

If FF15 will sell well enough to not flop in SE eyes is an entirely different story though.
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never much cared for final fantasy, only played 7 briefly

is it worth my time to download the demo?
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>>332912451
>I was just pretending to be retarded!! Westacuck BTFO xD
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>MFW PCfags thought the PC version would be announced
>Shitposted throughout the presentation
>Dead silent when it ended.
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>>332912482
SE is on life support from western titles. I doubt they will survive another blunder with a failed FF title.
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>>332912539
We already know it's coming. It'll just be a year or two after the PS4 release.
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>>332912316
This was done using cheats. Notice how the stamina bar doesn't move.
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>>332912539
>tfw just wanted a version that didn't run at sub-20 fps

Being an idort is suffering sometimes.
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>>332912581
he uses blizzard...
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>>332910876
It's a fucking batmobile
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>>332911025
The difference is that Kojima lost interest in his series after MGS and stopped giving a fuck completely after MGS3. The XV team on the other hand obviously cares about their game. There's also no "let's make the MC a silent protagonist and cut all cutscenes" fuckery going on here.
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>>332912539
IDORT here, it would be fucking stupid not to release it on PC, when they spent so much time to make it look pretty, and never having it shine on a playstation.
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>>332911112
feels like it's gonna be another XIII

another mess of shit with pretty visuals with an incomprehensible story and retarded characters and dialogue that confuses anime nerds into thinking the story is 'deep'
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Was this game confirmed 1080p/60 fps? Or am I thinking of a different game?

Because the demo makes me think otherwise
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PC port when?

just sold my xbone because it had nogames
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>>332912648
drops to sub-20 on PS4 so if it was even confirmed for 30 then SE is lying as usual
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>>332912614
japanese designers are retarded, it looks horrible and I wonder why the car would need double tires at the rear
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>>332912581
That shouldn't even matter.

When the final boss actually like actually fucking looks like that compared to this crazy shit there's nothing more to be said
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>>332912643
>another mess of shit with pretty visuals with an incomprehensible story and retarded characters and dialogue that confuses anime nerds into thinking the story is 'deep'

So that's why people love Dark Souls and Bloodborne.
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>>332911467

eh -

I'm all for FFXV bashing when it deserves it - but it's sooo easy to engineer input lag that I wouldn't take any non-reputable source as evidence.

That could easily be the result of running the video feed through all sorts of looped bullshit including capture cards running the feed and the running that through video editing software in "live" edit mode. The guy has a PC right there so its not beyond the realm of possibility.

Not defending the shit show of FFXV - just saying.
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FF13 all over again.
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>>332912569
>200+ million dollar profit per year
>life support
U wot m8?
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>>332912724
why do you compare it to BB?
why is this a contest W3 combat is cleary shit.
Meanwhile shockwaves is still a thing
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>>332912797
no, that game was a disgrace
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>>332912092
The Witcher 3 does not have quality gameplay.
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>>332911025
indeed, we already have 2 paid demos out of ffxv
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>>332912728

playing Souls for the story is retarded

playing FF exclusively for the gameplay is similarly dumb

your analogy sucks, faggot
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>>332912763
I recorded it with my phone's slow-mo function. No trickery involved, just phone pointed at controller and monitor then slowed down. If you have a phone that can do slow motion capture, you can do it too.
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>>332912797
>FF13 all over again.

As has been said, that has already been proven false.
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>>332912724
>comparing a game that literally does nothing except combat with a story-heavy RPG
10 years later, the BBfags will be still salty that the gaming public doesn't really give a fuck about their niche title.
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>>332912924
>that has already been proven false.

maybe if you have shit in your eyes and ears, and in your brain
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Can we just post good Final Fantasies?
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>>332912890
shut up sonygger
w3 has better gameplay
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>>332912913


Didn't realize it was slow-mo until you mentioned it and I re-watched.

Carry on then.

One last Q - is the setup the same as for other games and the other games response time is "normal" - it's definitely the game and not PS4 -> Monitor lag?
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>>332912994
>maybe if you have shit in your eyes and ears, and in your brain

That seems to be what you're suffering from.
But no you're right, FF15 seems to be another hallway sim with a needlessly convoluted story (but still bad), unlikeable characters and so on.
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>>332912401

Patch PS4.5 you mean?
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>>332913006
>Can we just post good Final Fantasies?

So basically only FF4-9?
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>>332913076
Out of the games I have for PS4, only TLoU had worse input lag. Others have some degree of delay but definitely not as bad or noticeable as the demo or TLoU. Monitor lag can be overruled because I have a 5ms latency monitor next to it and the results are the same.
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>>332913193
X's still pretty good.
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>>332911467
It's like those fucking idiots that take screenshots of games running at single digit FPS during a loading area.

Yeah it sucks the game has issues streaming some areas in but it lasts for a couple seconds and stops. Or sometimes the game bugs out and the console or PC shit's itself.

We don't live in a perfect world. Even on a $2000 pc shit still fucks up every now and then.
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>>332913193
4 is one of the worst FF games.
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>>332913241
Input lag persists in all areas. PC version might have the same issue but we don't know yet.
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>>332913228
>X's still pretty good.

That's when the series started to stray in terms of gamedesign and become genuinely controversial.
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>>332913032
It really doesn't. It's floaty, unresponsive and has weapons tied to your level. That's the exact opposite of quality. The stories and lore are pretty good though, but I don't play games for story and lore.
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If Bravely Default had been marketed as a Final Fantasy and was on a mainline console, what would have happened?

Would people be happy because it's a good JRPG or annoyed because it's not an action-adventure-platformer-teleportsbehindu-RPG? Do people actually like what Final Fantasy's core concept is or do they just like it as a popular IP?
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Open world game made by the japanese. Its garentueed to be, at best, ok.
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>>332913324
>too linear
>no overworld map

Yep but X was still pretty good. It wasn't as extreme as XIII.
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I don't really fucking care if it's bad or not. I'm just happy it's finally getting released. And I still like what I'm seeing so far.

10 years is alot. I was in highschool back then
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>>332913389
I like how each game is different.
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>>332913135
>But no you're right, FF15 seems to be another hallway sim with a needlessly convoluted story (but still bad), unlikeable characters and so on.

I wasn´t saying it was a hallway sim, but you´re correct on everything else

but hey, I hope you enjoy this shitfest; it´s obviously your kind of game
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>>332913389
FF is not remembered for having good turn based combat, if that's what you're thinking.
It's mostly known for crystals, summons, moogles, open world, airships, good visuals and being grand in scope.
Basically one of the few AAA JRPG series.
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>>332911723
>witcher 3 has it worse
bargain and deflection time
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>>332911025

I'm thinking something like this too, but I'm still buying it. I wanna explore the world more than anything.
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>>332913617
FF was known for all of those things, including well-designed turn-based combat

that was before XIII singlehandedly fucked the whole franchise up
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>>332911904
>actual collision is bad! I should have invincirolls to avoid invisible threats instead!
modern gaming.
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>>332910876
>That smooth as fuck animation
muh dick
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>>332911467

There's seriously something wrong with you PS4, it's nowhere near this bad for me. Or maybe it's that shitty screen of yours.
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>>332911112
So it's basically ground zeroes, which was also a pretty legit demo?
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>>332912482
>run like shit
>play like shit
>have a shit story & characters

Oh god. If every FF game in the last ten years is any indication, it's time to start worrying.
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>>332913537
So far there have been no signs to a convoluted story. In fact so far the story has been shown to be very simple and straightforward.
The characters are also likeable enough, even though they're a bit stereotypical. There's no Snow, Vanille or Hope here.
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>>332913741
It's slowed down. Nothing wrong with the screen. Demo just has crazy input lag is all.
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>>332913714
>including well-designed turn-based combat

No? I don't know where you got that idea.
There isn't a single FF combat system I would consider great or even good. They're almost always average.
As I have said in other threads, it was never even remotely on par with combat systems found in say Shadow Hearts.
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>>332912632
>>332912603
You guys even played FFXIII and its sequels on PC?
Squeenix PC ports go beyond horrid abortion tier, shit runs bad on all sorts of computers and it's a bugfest all around.
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>>332912643
Nah the story won't be deep, but it will be full of twists and feels, that's pretty much confirmed by everyone.
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>>332913714
XIII has better combat than a significant portion of FF games simply by making timing one's attacks important and by giving you game overs for your character dying even if the rest of the party is still alive.

Also Lightning Returns is really different from XIII and I'd argue that gameplay wise it has some of the best gameplay in any FF game period.
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>>332913750
>If every FF game in the last ten years is any indication, it's time to start worrying.

JRPGs in general have been severely lacking over the last 10 years.
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>>332913483

Personally hated X - played it thoroughly out of some desperate commitment to the franchise - but hated all of the steps backward and the voice acting. Good friends of mine bought me the X-2 as a birthday gift - knew I was a FF fan. Never even bothered playing it. Still have it sitting on a shelf because it was a gift.

FF the franchise died after 9. That's why so many are clamoring for a FF7 remake instead of "Falling in love" with anything that has come since X.

JRPG's in general have died from their late 90's and before themes. The genre has become more fantastical - fine. More "manga" melodramatic - fine. But it wasn't always that way.

JRPGs were generally my introduction to gaming beyond the hurrdurr of side scrollers - but after 9 I started to look toward WRPG's for anything resembling the formula (Baldurs gate/ M&M formula is the closest I came).

Nearly everything since X has been - eh, not for me.

They minimized the larger adult themes and grander story and keep dwelling on this weird psychedelic narrative style story telling where nothing makes sense and you just don't care because nothing makes sense or follows any logic. No - it's not because we "don't get it mannn" - it's shit story telling.
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>>332912102
The art work on that "shitty" steelbook is 10× better than the artwork on the ultimate collectors edition and that isn't saying much.

The ultimate collectors editon comes with a play arts kai Noctis statue but it looks stupid as fuck and it cost about 270 bucks. If you thought the LE was bad just for having some dlc and a steelbook, the UCE only addd a statue and charchters on the steelbooks instead of Yoshitaka Amano artwork which is superior to the art used in the UCE.
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>>332913874
>As I have said in other threads

is this faggot serious?
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>>332913893
Lightning Returns has 0 problems on PC. You know how XIII and XIII-2 have framerate dips throughout? Lightning Returns doesn't have that. It was a perfect port. Also the XIII and XIII-2 games you mention, while they are flawed, are still the best existing versions of the game.

Anyways, while Lightning Returns was a perfect port (and also the most recent port), the last FF port before it was Type 0 HD, and that was also pretty good. Still has that damn 30FPS lock, but that can't be helped considering how the game was designed way back on PSP. Some people claim their beefy computers can't handle it, but that only happens if you max AA settings, since that renders the game at 4k and then downsamples it. So people rendered the game at 4k and then wondered why they couldn't run it.
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>>332914010
That being said I might get the LE because I'm a sucker for Amano artwork.
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>>332913925
10 years ago is 2006. They have been lackung for longer than that. More like 15 years.
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>>332913815

I ever once got that bad for me and I have 5 hours in it.
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>>332912724
>looks
I bet you think Vergil is a bad boss too because he doesn't look like a lovecraft reference
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>>332910876
I thought the same when MGSV was about to release.
See how that turned out.
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>>332913750

So this is it huh? /v/ filled with Casuals? While most of the demo IS filler tech demo shit, that final fight with the golem and the vastly improved combat system makes it all worth it.

Seriously, you niggas can do aerial combat, all sorts of blocks and dodges, each weapon has multiple special moves, and a surprising amount of depth for a stripped down demo.

Oh, and if you do use the right timing, YOU CAN perfect dodge cancel from MOST attack animations- there are some that you can't (mostly great sword), air attacks you must use an aerial rave dodge, which has more strict timing and doesn't require any presses of square at all. Not every attack can be dodged by holding down square. Some attacks you must have pressed square within a certain time frame of the enemies attack.

I uploaded some videos of me doing fun stuff in the fight, maybe it can inspire you fags to not be total casuals and to try and learn the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy9ONWheKGA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5m8T9w7Eb8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74yhOh1jzyc
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>>332911201
It's not the framerate in itself that is horrible, it's the frame pacing issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8nr5iSbVFk

Horribly stuttering because of that.
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>>332914027
>is this faggot serious?

Yes I do post in other threads and people might've heard me mention Shadow Hearts or other games before.
I'm sorry if this is baffling to you.
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>>332913980

(Same person, second post)

Here is a good analogy - Know the success of Game of thrones? - If JRPG's followed their narrative evolution logically - they would essentially be telling as an engaging story as GOT in JRPG form.

Maybe that's what XV will try to do - that's what I hope it does - but nothing has tried it since then.

Hell - look at Legend of Dragoon - another "OMG great game" - Largely for it's fantastic story and how it was told.

Why are all these "great stories" over a decade old?

Japanese devs need to lay off the drugs or whatever bullshit is driving them into the self flagellation of incoherent narratives and off-tone themes.
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>>332913912
the point is that FF's need to have it all, and until XIII, they did so

likeable characters, non-retarded dialogue and an interesting setting were a staple for these games

lately however, the writers of this franchise have taken a turn into cuckoo-land and there seems to be no end in sight

>>332914230
nobody gives a shit

you're not on lebbit
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>FF thread
>sonyggers still shitposting about TW3
will you faggots ever give it a rest ? it's a great game no matter what nonsense you keep spouting. Yeah, and bloodborne which I'll probably never play looks great as well. One game being better or as good or slightly worse than another doesn't take away anything from it.
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>>332914261
I thought FFXII was pretty comparable to Game of Thrones.
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>>332913726
Fuck off
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>>332913874
>>332914230
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>>332914217
I SWEAR TO GOD STOP POSTING THIS COPYPASTA
THE GUY IN THE VIDEO IS NOT EVEN GOOD
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>>332911025
>The fact that this game has gone through so many revisions and that they are still changing shit this close to release is a huge red flag.

it totally isn't. just means they put as much care into it as possible. remember how long FFXII took until they released it and it turned out excellent. you faulty logic doesn't even make any sense. more care equals a better game.
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>>332914217
>look ma, I posted it again.

You've been told countless times, that it's not hard to make the game look and play like this, but the controls aren't tight, making the experience absolutely not satisfying and inconsistent.

Also, absolutely nothing impressive in the videos you posted, like you've been told countless times, it doesn't take any skill to do any of this stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsFTJftJKJc
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>>332914278
>nobody gives a shit

I am not attentionwhoring you fucking retard, I mentioned it before some faggot went "are you that retard that keeps bringing up shadow hearts" or whatever.

Your autism is blowing something this petty way out of proportion. If you had any common sense you wouldn't even reply to this post (but your autism will no doubt demand it). So go on, needlessly derail this thread more.
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>>332914425

It's copypasta at this point. People like this actually do the game a disservice because they suck off the devs and dismiss all criticism as just being casual. When the game flops because of a shitty unresponsive control scheme they will only have themselves to blame. Praising sloppy controls doesn't help anyone.
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>>332914425

shuriken is so loud
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I really hope it turns out to be good, they've been working on it for a long-ass time, I remember being hyped for it due to the trailers back when I was 17 years old.

I'm 23 now.

Also hoping for a PC port somewhere down the line.
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>>332912728
Ate you high dude? You actually have to look for the lore in dark souls it doesn't have a story that you can fully interprete by just playing the main quest line itself.
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>>332914425

>getting mad at pasta
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>>332910876

>First 40-80 hours are good
>Falls apart at the end

I think this is the best case scenario
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>>332914228
Is this a fucking joke? People accept this?

Meanwhile, I'm playing games in 165fps on a 165 hz, 1440p, monitor.
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>>332914608
Even if the ending sucks, 80 hours of a good game are worth the money in my opinion
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>>332914604
>implying FFXV-kun isn't posting this unironically like every other pasta he usually posts.
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>playing the platinum demo on ps4

>mfw it looks like a ps3 game

>mfw it dips below 20 fps at times

>mfw its some dmc for retards combat instead of turn based

the iron giant fight at end was kinda okay, but generally i'm very worried
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>>332914373
>remember how long FFXII took until they released it and it turned out excellent

fucking nobody remembers that because it didn't happen

FFXII was the worst letdown in FF history because SE was undoing all the work Matsuno put into it by trying to appeal to the retarded subculture

We could've gotten another Vagrant Story - or something that even exceeded it instead of that boring mess that was released

instead people got a
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>>332914718
>expecting a turn-based combat of a title that was advertised as an arpg since 2006.

Wew, lad.
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I enjoy the combat for what it is. It's nice and simple, and I feel the final product would be rather enjoyable. Having the hold2win for the scrubs was a good touch I think.

People going into this expecting DMC are retarded.
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>>332913193
>FF4
4 is shit. Shit story, shit characters and no party customization.
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>>332911492
Yeah, that's enough time to downgrade the graphics or make a PC port.
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>>332914425

I realized a possibility.

Know the frame drops when Noct transforms back to a kid - It's probably just because of the demo. It's caused by the engine accessing and quickly (as fast as possible) switching the assets between young Noct and Adult Noct. In the final game there might be no such transitions and this could simply be the mechanic they have for the demo in order to hide the story. If not they really need to fix that.
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I will give you guys a little spoiler of the game, its barely out there but.
The reason the trailers focus so much on your friends, is because it is trying to tell you to cherish them, think of it along the lines of a Social Link from Persona "and Square even made a poll, which will you buy, Persona or FF15" and the game will have a few differences in endings. If Noct goes it alone and forgoe's his friends, or saves his friends and unite as one sorta deal. So if you dont bond, one of them may die, or all of them, and ultimately perhaps you resulting in a sad ending.

This is one of the reasons the game got reworked again, because they wanted players to feel like its a set in stone type game, and a little bit more fluid. This game is going to be a major homage to the other games in the series, you will see the old crystal guardians, and its similar to FF6 or FF14, or 9 in ways. A nation under machines, rather then crystals, dont depend on the crystals, depend on man.
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>>332914845

I think they want the PC port to utilize DX12.
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>>332914373
>it totally isn't. just means they put as much care into it as possible. remember how long FFXII took until they released it and it turned out excellent. you faulty logic doesn't even make any sense. more care equals a better game.

A longer dev cycle does in no way guarantee that they are constantly improving the game though. More likely it means that they have hit a wall.

Honestly I think the reason why XV is took this long to come out is because Versus simply never had a solid footing to begin with. They had some general ideas, but nobody knew what the fuck the final game was supposed to be.
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>>332913691
>I wanna explore the world more than anything.

Same here. These cities and towns look fucking comfy as shit. And that yacht god damn.
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>>332910876
>porting a Playstation exclusive to the PC

Square just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase FFXV for either system, nor will they purchase any of Square's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Square has alienated an entire market with this move.

Square, publicly apologize and cancel FFXV for PC or you can kiss your business goodbye.
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>>332914718
>frogposting in 2016
>expecting a turn-based game even though it's been advertised as an ARPG for 10 years
>thinking the PS3 could manage anywhere near the graphical fidelity of the demo

The game doesn't run that well, but it's impressive they've managed to get that level of visuals out of the PS4 at all. There's a lot of effects going on, good draw distance, and they demonstrated things like realistic physics with the wooden block towers as well. I'm pretty happy with it. The game doesn't come out for another 6 months as well, so they'll be finetuning performance for the next 3.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuScrfvGMzs

I fucking love this nigga.
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>>332911025

MGS5 was great

you faggots who got hyped for the "deep story" obviously never played the other games or you're just fucking dumb
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>>332914879
Better tell me if there are 1 handed swords that use crush attacks chaining as a base combo instead of the shitty ravage ones.
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>>332915028
MGS4>3>2>5>1
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>>332914961
>Playstation exclusive
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>>332914879

I'm expecting a narrative along these lines.

It's a story of Noct living his life and growing old - equal parts along the way. Young boy and his trials and tribulations there. Young adult and getting married while building "Adult" connections with his friend and guard. Then growing older where the world is no longer black and white but everything is more complicated.

What would be ingenious story telling (therefore won't happen) is that your childhood and young adulthood friends, that the game spends 3/4s of the narrative developing - become the main players in the advasarial conclusion. Not all go against you - but some do, while some sacrifice themselves for you - have really rich, complex and logical conflicts in the narrative.

Things change over a lifetime - don't make any one side simply "Evil" - make it so you are conflicted with taking on whatever challenge because it means blah blah blah - you get it.


It won't happen - but it would have been cool if it did.
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>>332914879

I'm gonna legit cry when Prompto dies.
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>>332911638
Why do people still unironically shit on cod?aw and bo3 were pretty good games
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>>332914961
>exclusive
You forget about the Xbone version, mate.

>I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert)
Ok, up to this point I thought this wasn't bait, so I guess you got me.
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>>332915103
Actually, one does, he is the body guard of Noct when he is a child and stops an assassination attempt, he is the short haired guy with stuble, and in the Guardian of Glaive movie "or whatever it is"

Remember there is a ton of characters, from a dog, to the girls, and the other men too, even red haired scarf man.
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>>332914532
Nigga if you are 23 now then you were 13 when the first trailers came out you stupid faggot
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>>332915103
Is FF15 the Boyhood of videogames?
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>>332915371
yeah but I didn't have a computer until I was 16
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>>332915453
Damn your childhood must have been shit
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>dat prelude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGLNk4soZIw
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its going to be shit
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>>332915438
the anime is called brotherhood.

also the theme is stand by me
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>>332915469
yeah man, playing outside with friends in the forest then going home to play PS1 with my dad was a horribly scarring experience for me
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>>332915497

Thanks for that quality post.
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>FF was known for all of those things, including well-designed turn-based combat
Like in FF1 or FF2? FF is a series that constantly evolves. Some may not like the changes, but at least it's not stagnant. You can't say that any two FF games are like any two Assassin's Creed iterations, for example.

>>332913912
>Also Lightning Returns is really different from XIII and I'd argue that gameplay wise it has some of the best gameplay in any FF game period.
LR's gameplay, as in responsiveness, controls, exploring, running around, jumping and shit are certainly the best FF has to offer.
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I'm just playing order and chaos 2 on Android before ff11 comes out
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>>332915561
Fuck, this was meant for >>332913714
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>>332915540
keep telling yourself that so you can repress the memories of being bullied at school and then coming home to your abusive dad who raped you every night kiddo :^)
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Are you guys ready for what is essentially going to be Noct supposed to have been sacrificed as a child, his father couldn't bare to do it, and is the reason why the world fell into chaos, why there was a split "to move away from the crystals and summons" and the game revolves around you marching to your death only to be saved by your friends.

Thats what I am guessing happens.
>Primals not appeased.
>Begin causing destruction.
>Group looks to man and machines to stop them, and starts with Titan "sealing him at least for now"
>Does so with the rest, looking to control them "think of FF14 and Ultima, seriously"
>Noct is the key to all of this, because he is of course, a summoner.
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>>332915705
>You will never have a father who murders your mother and little sister in a heroine induced rage and only survived due to locking your door at night.
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>>332915853
>Noct supposed to have been sacrificed as a child, his father couldn't bare to do it, and is the reason why the world fell into chaos
So it's Legacy of Kain all over again. Maybe they could toss a coin?
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I hope Tabata doesn't go nuts with the story.

I don't want another Type-0
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>>332911467
Wireless controller.
Monitor.
Console.

When you add all the lag it can be over 50ms.
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A big shitty empty world where you can hang out with your emo punkpop boyband buddies that look hilariously cheesy.

Japanese still don't know how to design open world games. Big != better. Pretty != better.
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>>332916176
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>>332914096
I haven't played XIII-2 or Lightning Returns but XIII ran pretty well in native 4k via gedosato, I have an old pc but was still getting an average 40+ fps.
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Well for sure FFXVI won't take too long anymore since UE4 saved Japanese Game companies.
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>>332915853
Well, we do know that gods chose him for something. Knowing FF, being a chosen one is not a good thing. We also know that he doesn't mind dying; the last scene with the ring is him taking over his bloodline curse.
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>post yfw you spent $320 on the ultimate deluxe edition
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>>332911201
It will work just fine on PS 4.5
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>>332910876

hope you pre-ordered that ps4.5 breh
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>>332912624
>and stopped giving a fuck completely after MGS2.

FTFY
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>>332917607
it cost so much thank god square doesn't charge until pre-shipment is ready
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>>332911025
But MGSV had great gameplay and thats why its still my Goty 2015
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>>332917607

What a waste of money.

The shitty Play Arts figurine, a soundtrack you will just be able to download, movie and anime that are free anyway.

Only thing are those 4 "packs" which will probably be free DLC later anyway.

It's your money I guess.
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>>332917607

>only 30,000

So stupid. They fucking made a POINTLESS car, and arguably pointless movie. If not there could have been more.
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>>332918598

SE are extremely retarded with money.
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>>332912247
THIS IS PEQUOD, DROPPING THE GOTY ARGUMENT

THAT'S GONNA SHOW THEM
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>>332910876
>flying cars are a thing now

It better be a upgrade you get really late in the game, else it will destroy all the point in driving a fucking car in a road, that is literally 90% of what they been showing us so far.
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>>332918780
10 MILLION COPIES TO BREAK EVEN
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>>332918181
Nah, he clearly had some ideas for MGS3. They weren't very good compared to 1 and 2, but it was something. Everything starting with MGS4 on the other hand had literally zero ambition and only existed to make everybody related and worship muh Boss.
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>>332918913

Yeah it looks like a late game upgrade for the car.

Tabata said underwarer combat was still in, I wonder if the underwater region still is. Car turning into a sub would be awesome. He also said you could fly enemy ships too.
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>>332918913
Getting the airship generally takes a while in FF.
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>>332912316
It's treason, then.
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I don't get this.

It's like they showed a lot of the game in the event, but at the same time they didn't as well.
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>>332919754
Blame greg miller for hijacking the event for his ego
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>>332920004
I meant the game itself. It's like we don't know much at all. Not that I'm complaining about that.

Well yeah Greg Miller and his partner sucked. I don't know why they wanted him as a host really.
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>>332914961
>PlayStation exclusive
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>>332918598
>They fucking made a POINTLESS car

That's even for sale.

What the retarded fuck?
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>>332914879
I will rage my fucking ass off if Nocto kicks the bucket, literally my new fav FF protag by far.
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>>332920907
>officially a tragedy
>marketing promo says its'a darker take on the series
>directed by a guy who delivered the bloodiest and most brutal game/endings in the franchise
We all know he's gonna die. The only question is how much he will suffer before that.
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>>332914985
wew lad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7ocJQP7xPo
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>>332918598
I imagine Audi paid for the car and paid to have it in the movie.
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>>332914879
Nice try. Tabata said last September that there would be only one, very definitive ending.
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>>332911025
and you know that how?
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>>332912092
the witcher 3 is on of the worst games in this gen
literally unplayable
Good visuals =/= good game
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>>332912971

>10 years later, the BBfags will be still salty that the gaming public doesn't really give a fuck about their niche title.

The gaming public doesn't give a fuck about the Witcher 3 either
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>>332925656
confirmed for retarded shitposter
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>>332925965
you called me a retard
you just admited defeat kid
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>>332913912
>and by giving you game overs for your character dying even if the rest of the party is still alive.
>good
No control over party positions and moves
>good
Holy fuck kill yourself
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>>332913912
>giving you game overs for your character dying even if the rest of the party is still alive


this is not good game design fucking kill yourself you underage scrub
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>>332911359

Despite the fact it was already stated we get to take down various Empire fortresses, there are also side quests everywhere they already mentioned in the reveal of helping people on the road, and actual towns with tons of people, since we could talk to everyone at that Chocobo outpost.

If there is anything that we will be getting, it's the promise of a thriving open world.
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>>332914630
not final fantasy XV :^)
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>>332914630
>Meanwhile, I'm playing games in 165fps on a 165 hz, 1440p, monitor.
If you are gonning to lie at least make the lies less of a science fiction
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>KH3 got delayed for this shit
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Anyone worried that every screenshot of the overworld is the same taste of dark green and grey? Dunno if the demo showed more than that.
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Development hell never ends well and sometimes a developer needs to realise it's time to cut their losses and put a game to rest so they can use what they've learned from it towards a fresh new project.

FFversusXIII should have been killed a good 6 years ago so that they could make a XV from a totally new idea.
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>>332928923
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZYNC4JZ_2c

What?
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I couldnt give less of a fuck about ff

I hate the way it looks
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>>332914915
It's not that they didn't know what to do with the game so much as they just couldn't really work on it at all because of Square fucking up with Crystal Tools and needing to make another whole engine from scratch.
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>>332929268

k thanks for stopping by
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Did FFXV-kun kill himself after the latest downgrade/input lag/dumification of the battle system?
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>>332925895
How the fuck people still play Skyrim nowadays? What kinda mods are out there that justify thousands upon thousands of gameplay?

I tried the porn ones out. A bit nice but overall hella unsatisfying.
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>>332910876
Nobody care about your weeb-emoshit game
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>japs get to fly the batwing before America
We will never be great again
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>>332910876
that animation looks so bad. They should have added a rocket effect or something to hide it
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Is FFXV-kun in this thread?
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>>332911848
Post slomo of this shit. Its hilarious how bad platinums fucked up with this one.
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>>332930263
No, he's actually been completely absent ever since before the Uncovered event.
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What's she laughing at?
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>>332931824
At the fact that the movie will be better than the game
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>>332931824

>tabata's face
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Dat downgrade
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