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FFXV combat gameplay discussion.
What did you guys think of the demo? especially the part at the end where you could "experience the final game combat". Have you found the 2 secret adult noctis weapons yet?
What is shit:
>The fps drops a bunch of frames when fighting the iron giant making it very hard to make out what is happening and this is one small area, with one character, and one enemy.
>The fps drops to single frames when an armiger attack hits.
>The delay between pressing a button and an action coming out is way too long. It makes me very uncomfortable and the game very unresponsive due to the slow feedback.
>The directional moves feel very unresponsive because they can only be done during the ravage phase of your attacks, which requires you to carefully look at the animations to see where you are in an attack string, but since the fps is bad that's kind of hard.
>I severely dislike not having the special attacks on a seperate button like in duscae.
>control scheme is different for some reason.
>graphics are meh
What is good:
>Air mobility
>The weapon system is kind of interesting in that some weapons alow certain air actions and others have something different like blocking attacks
>Being able to weapon throw-warp repeatedly in the air.
>each weapon has it's own warp type
I'm seriously doubting my purchase. Someone confirm that this is an old build and that the final game will feel more responsive
>>332734402
>>332734450
>>332734402
It was definitely better than the original demo's combat.
That being said, something about it still felt very off and uninspiring. I didn't feel any weight behind my attacks and it generally felt very unresponsive. I'm a little worried for the final product.
>>332734692
>It was definitely better than the original demo's combat.
Well in terms of depth yes, it obviously is. But i felt that it lost the grounded feel they were always talking about, and not because of the air combat, but because of the bad response. Which is weird because in that poll they already acknowledged this and said they would improve on it.
I haven't had as much issues with the framerate as I've heard some people are having, oddly. It still drops pretty low sometimes, but I've never had it drop to single digit. Is there a video or webm to show how bad it gets?
That being said, optimization is something that happens constantly in a game's development, all the way up to going gold (and sometimes afterwards for patches). A lot of games don't hit the target framerate until a few weeks before release.
>Someone confirm that this is an old build and that the final game will feel more responsive
Very few demos are concurrent with the latest build. They have to specifically choose a stable build to use to make their demo, and that could be months old. Not to mention that demos can take months to build themselves, so that makes it even further behind the latest.
As far as being more responsive, who knows, but the game is still 6 months out so they have plenty of time to work on it.
>Press a button
>Home in on the closes faggot and play an animation
FINAL FANTASY IS SAVED
Should have been turn-based.
You can argue until you turn red that action-based combat is more fun and demanding, but it is physically impossible to emulate the depth of turn-based combat in real-time.
It's not possible and FF15 is clearly not going to be able to pull off that miracle either.
>>332734402
so 6/7 of your complaints are that it is on a console?
>>332734402
The combat was awful
Literally hold down button to win
Noctis can fly?
This gameplay is giving me a kingdom hearts vibe...
Replace donald and goofy with 2cool edgy tryhards and you have this game
>>332735484
Actually now. If the gfx were worse but the response was good then I would have no problems with it.
Unlike you pc master race fags I actually play games for gameplay, not pretty gfx and muh epic story line grinding loot fest.
>>332735598
>I actually play games for gameplay
Then why the fuck are you playing Final Fantasy?
A game series known for having legendarily stale gameplay in favor of character drama and Naruto-plot?
>people complaining about combat in a RPG
all combat in RPGs is easy unless its completely broken or retarded party ai like tales of vesperia.
>>332735769
>RPG
XV is an ARPG
>>332735573
So this is it huh? /v/ filled with Casuals? While most of the demo IS filler tech demo shit, that final fight with the golem and the vastly improved combat system makes it all worth it.
Seriously, you niggas can do aerial combat, all sorts of blocks and dodges, each weapon has multiple special moves, and a surprising amount of depth for a stripped down demo.
Oh, and if you do use the right timing, YOU CAN perfect dodge cancel from MOST attack animations- there are some that you can't (mostly great sword), air attacks you must use an aerial rave dodge, which has more strict timing and doesn't require any presses of square at all. Not every attack can be dodged by holding down square. Some attacks you must have pressed square within a certain time frame of the enemies attack.
I uploaded some videos of me doing fun stuff in the fight, maybe it can inspire you fags to not be total casuals and to try and learn the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy9ONWheKGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5m8T9w7Eb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74yhOh1jzyc
>>332734402
Please don't refund your pre-order senpai.
The game needs to sell 10 million copies otherwise SE will cry.
You don't want SE to cry cry do you?
>>332735586
When you think about it Disney could asspull some shit about KH's gameplay being exclusive to them so putting a KH Ripoff into a main Final Fantasy that just happened to be in development hell for a fuckload of years makes a lot of sense.
>>332735915
Where the fuck did you get a shield from?
>>332735998
seatch on youtube "ffxv platinum shuriken and shield"
>>332735125
just like turn based combat :^)
>>332734402
The graphics are fucking shit
They just keep making the gameplay look worse and WORSE EACH AND EVERY SINGLE TIME
They just keep pandering to normalfags who're still not used to 3rd person view outside of shootan "games"
They just keep downgrading everything and removing everything that was cool in VS13
I lost all hope for this game.
>>332735716
Are you a viral marketer?
It is a common technique used by marketers to shitpost at people to get them to defend their game. I'm looking for an objective discussion. If you can't handle that then please leave.
>>332735915
Fucking weebshit.
>>332734402
Never played a FF game in my life, but isn't that shit supposed to be turnbased?
>>332735915
so after you kill the first monster you turn into a 10 year old?? wtf
>>332735598
>Hold button to attack
>Hold button to defend
>tfw less gameplay than a QTE.
>>332736224
Fucking reddit
>>332734402
looks like half assed floaty matrix chink shit
and the characters are blatantly homosexual
they are not even trying to hide it anymore
seriously, no shame in being a faggot in final fantasy
9 fucking years and this is their combat system? I couldn't stand it. It didn't help that no matter when I hit the dodge button shit still would hit me. Even if that didn't happen nonstop it's still just not fun. It's clunky, feels bare bones.
I really am stunned. There's really no better word for it. I'm glad they released a demo because now I don't have to waste money on it. I'm curious if the demo will do more harm than good, or if people will eat it up regardless. Though I'd wager most won't even try the demo before buying it.
>>332736285
These bullshit ARPGs are ruining the genre. Your interests are fucking lame.
Let's play "Guess the Sales"!
Things that will boos sales:
>every reviewer on God's green earth will give it a 10/10
>Sonyggers are terribly desperate for games
>people who were lied to through the PS3 generation might as well buy it now
Things that will drag sales down:
>it'll be shit - the demo has convinced very few people so far
>it can't live up to the hype - literally impossible at this point
>it'll be a performance mess - it'll look bad and play bad
I am going to guess 5 million copies sold after the port to PS4K/PC.
>>332736160
hi tips
>>332736281
>tfw you can just tap the buttons instead
>tfw the game rewards you for timing your dodges instead of holding defend
>tfw you're such a garbage unskilled player that you hold the buttons but you still complain about it because you want to fit in
try again jim
>>332736296
>It didn't help that no matter when I hit the dodge button shit still would hit me
git gud
>>332735915
>air dodge
whoa wtf
>>332736296
See, this is the problem with modern-day demos. Games aren't good anymore.
Before, demos gave you a sample of what was to come and if you liked it, you'd buy the game. Now developers fall back on hype, creating the illusion that you will like it and have you buy it on that alone.
This'll be another nail in the coffin for demos.
>>332736508
demos have been renamed to "betas"
"It's only a beta"
>>332736296
It's a fucking tech demo. The combat isn't the focus. The full combat demo won't be out till just before Sept.
>>332736296
>It didn't help that no matter when I hit the dodge button shit still would hit me.
that's likely because of the input lag.
the game feels like it would be great if it was only more responsive.
>>332736639
Are you seriously still deluding yourself into thinking this will be good?
>>332736348
it will get 7s and 8s, i guarantee you
>>332735915
Nice gameplay. Good to see that actually skilled players are doing shit. Will post some footage in a moment
>>332736343
>ARPG are ruining ARPG
Sure reddit-kun.
>>332735915
resulting in pasta now?
>>332736348
3 million for the PS4 alone. 4 when all ports are made. 5 is overplaying it.
>>332736681
hurr durr
>>332736754
Go back to 9gag, weeb.
>>332735915
People can post flashy footage of DmC, that doesn't make it good.
>ARPG
>they give you a few dumbshit AI-controlled party members
>game is balanced around you babysitting their asses instead of doing everything solo like in a real action game
My least favorite design philosophy in JRPGs.
>>332734450
you know nomura wanted this to be a musical. I think I can kind of see what he was going for.
>>332735915
Holy shitty framedrops senpai.
>>332736892
You're an idiot.
>>332736890
>weeb
Again with this redditor gager.
>>332735586
doesn't KH have good combat?
>>332735915
How the fuck do you stay in the air? That's my biggest problem with it. The only way I manage for a few seconds is using warp, but you are not spending MP. I hit a couple of times and then Noctis fall.
They should have flat out said that the demo is not focusing on the combat system. Now people really think that the combat of XV will be just like the demo or something.
>>332736892
I wish you dmcfags would fuck off. This is an arpg, not hack n slash/beat em up.
Do you have to play as a faggot?
>>332737087
Yes.
>>332737013
directional attacks keep you afloat
>>332736952
But you are a faggot weeber, bro. You're a guest here. Get your stupid animeshit out of my board.
>>332737087
Every single character looks like that, so yes. Why bother making interesting designs when you can just put everyone in boring black shit?
>>332736992
>mash X to win
Yeah, really good...
>>332737068
then how come that's what you do in this game?
>>332737145
Hilarious.
>>332737068
I wish the rest of the world would understand what makes gameplay in an action game good. It's not even about floating in mid air like most of them think. It's about having 20+ actions at every interval you can choose from and making it look good. This does wonders for every game since it increases replay value and is an interesting activity on it's own.
>>332736735
Neato.
Can't wait until someone makes a tutorial like the one fir ED.
>>332737195
That image was made by a gay person. I'm not on the anime board, you fucking queer.
>>332735915
Looks terrible
>>332737145
who let this cancer in
>>332737279
Get out retard normalfag, you're lost.
I'd love to play a new final fantasy, but I don't want to play as a JPOP wannabe. Also the combat looks like Naruto mixed with gay.
>>332737348
>/b/ is anime/random
Pffftt hahahahaha.
>>332737145
>>332737280
yeah who let you in
Actually I was down on it yesterday but trying the demo again I kinda enjoyed it this time. It flowed really well.
>>332737206
It's not an all out action game. It's an arpg. Go be fucking retarded somewhere else.
>>332737160
as opposed to selecting attack from a menu and watching something play out?
sounds okay to me.
>>332737279
get lost reddit.
Is there any backlash over how shit it is or are people eating it up?
>>332737494
So it has shitty action mechanics AND shitty rpg mechanics. That makes it ok, gotcha!
It all depends on enemy variety. If enemies don't challenge the player to utilize all the abilities we're given, it'll be shit.
It's fucking crap honestly.
Not buying the full game.
>>332737494
haha what so when something is wrong with the combat, you say "WELL ITS MOSTLY AN RPG SO THERE CAN BE PROBLEMS WITH THE COMBAT SO SHUT UP OKAY?" This is why I think ARPG is the stupidest genre of all time. It doesn't haven't to one or the other right because they can always fall back on "WELL ITS TWO GENRES TOGETHER SO THERE CAN BE FUCKUPS OKAY"
>>332737572
We haven't even seen the RPG mechanics.
If only they would improve the IQ at least, aliasing is ruining my eyes and everything is blurry
1080p my ass
>>332737348
>just because these boards were made they are the overlords of 4chan.
>I'am gonna go post about anime and anime related images on other boards.
Don't you have a Moeblob thread to fucking go to ? Get out of here.
>>332737652
You "play" the role of a homosexual boyband. There's your rpg mechanic.
OK, so on the topic of framerate.
I didn't notice ANY issues.
I even went back into Platinum Demo to check after seeing the response, and no matter what I did, the framerate seemed just fine.
Now I'm watching a video of someone playing PD, and the framerate is very, very noticeable.
Thing is, the person I'm watching got a PS4 at launch, and mine is only a couple months old.
So I'm wondering, is there any kind of hardware difference that might be the cause of this? Because it's seriously night and day, this video and what I've actually played.
>>332737215
I might do something once I get used to this retarded input lag.
>>332737494
Who gives a shit what it is or what you define it as? I can play any game in any way I want, and the amount of moves and mechanics are the most important factor in me having fun. That's it. There is no discussion possible on this. Stop trying to prevent me from having a good time you retarded piece of fucking butthole flexing autist.
>>332737638
There's nothing wrong with the combat though. It's it's own original system. Comparing it to DMC is just fucking moronic.
The combat is somehow even less engaging than turnbased.
Framerate dances between 12-25.
Jaggies up the ass, vaseline smeared on the screen to compensate.
Fuck it.
>all this shitposting
I just realized it's Friday night in Australia. That explains it.
>>332737601
Actually I don't need to be challenged to utilize all the abilities in a game. I can do that myself. You are just a casual who doesn't want to think but just let the game whip you into shape.
>>332738028
When I record my videos and watch the gameplay it seems better. I'm not sure why. But my ps4 is also a couple of months old.
>>332738094
i was defending the combat you dipshit
>>332738197
And I wasn't shitting on it shitdip.
>>332735915
Neat, the combat doesn't look too bad here. Definitely better than most of the combat I've seen from typical RPGs. It looks reminiscent of the stylish action genre like DMC. Probably a lot slower though.
>>332734402
>the fps drops
No it doesn't. I fought him three times and the only, only, only time it ever dropped for me was when he's alive to dead.
>>332738095
An original system that fails at action and rpg. Bravo, Square, bravo.
>>332734402
fps drops with 1 character and 1 enemy on the screen is really bad, how is it going to handle a whole party and multiple enemies?
How the fuck did Tabata green light this piece of trash of a demo in the first place. ED was already fine. Damn it SE, you blew it. Fucking blew it.
>combat is literally floaty
>samey and largely substanceless, and apparently this was so complicated they couldn't allow you to use any other party members
>coming off a game where you had more than a dozen characters with their own move sets and mechanics and combat was generally faster
I'm still not impressed.
>>332738149
Bunch of fucking criminals down there
>>332738259
It's not. If it was as smooth and responsive as DMC it'd be fine.
>>332737145
>You're a guest here.
Haven't had any issues with framerate drops. Battle system is pretty solid but I still think jumping and dodging need to be tweaked a bit and it'll be perfect.
Also I'm sure since this is a rpg and we all know how final fantasy's are, they will probably make it so you become stronger in time and hopefully increase your character's speed and jump height, etc.
Some air combo shit. Nothing new but I have to go to work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIDppfF97JE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlWVGdhe3t4
>>332738494
I hope I get KHII mobility shit like high jump, glide, aerial dodge, quick run
Moving around in KHII is so much goddamn fun
>since ff10 years have passed
>no explorable world map all that time
>no airship
>new FF with world map, airship and a new battle system thats not turn based
>call it shit and point all the flaws it MIGHT have
Sometimes I forget about the key aspect of /v/
everything that is a video game will be shit, the only fun thing is complain about them.
Heh... nothing personnel...
Even if the framerate wasn't garbage, the combat feels like it's on autopilot and lacks any satisfaction
>>332738483
Your fry to leave any day, weebo.
>>332738637
Whoop, you seem to have wandered outside of your corporate funded hype hugbox.
>>332737145
Get the fucking fuck out you fucking retarded faggot. It's 4 fucking AM and the last thing I want to see is stupid fucking retarded comments from stupid ads motherfuckers like you. Fuck off this site pussy, you don't belong pussy bitch
>>332735598
No reason you can't have both. Denial is strong in you.
>>332737652
>rpg mechanics
>in a FF
haha oh wow.
>>332738382
You do have a little control of your party members though. From the Niflheim trailer you can see some actions that are tied to a certain party member (i.e the flare gun attack by prompto) is controllable by Noctis. But SE decided to strip that from this demo. That is the most stupid decision that I have ever heard.
>>332738637
people are allowed to have different opinions
It's basically Kingdom Hearts combat but in an FF game.
I like it though, turn based is such a drag. Read FFVII remake will have atb similar to FFXIII but still fast paced.
>>332738637
What did you expect, even TW3 is “trash” according to /v/
I'm loving the combat. I keep finding out new shit the more I play it. It's pretty damn good for a tech demo.
>>332735998
webm related - some other anon made it
You need 350+ crystals, and you need to have beaten the Iron Giant at least once, when it's Lv. 15 you can get these.
>>332738875
It doesn't play like KH at all.
Ever since it became XV, the combat has been more similar to Type-0 with the "hold to action" thing
>>332738637
I talk shit about games I like all the time on /v/, and a lot of other anons do it too.
>>332738964
>350
Oops meant 250.
You can even unlock a sword and hammer for chibi Noct. Also Meteorain.
>>332738827
Yes, I noticed that too. It's a step in the right direction, but it's still kind of annoying that they're pretending it's perfectly okay to have a typical JRPG party and never let you control any of them because they arbitrarily decided to give one character all the moves.
Wow, those frame drops. Confirmed normal ps4s useless. Better get that ps4k for the full experience, goyim.
How long is the demo?
>>332738964
I had over 400 before going into the final area and didn't even check to see if there was anything else.
>>332735915
This still doesn't look good. Look at how he has to keep standing at a distance, just waiting for the golem to do something. It's because the controls are so slow and unresponsive he'd get hit if he tried attacking first.
>>332739167
best way to get a buttload of crystals is to keep pressing the enemy spawn button just before the long hallway and using meteorain to kill everything
gives about 50 or so crystals, maybe 40
>>332739146
Around 30-45 if you take your time collecting, I just chilled in the 2nd area because the music was like something out of Kingdom Hearts and even the area itself was like a Disney movie.
Not as great as the demo that came with Type-0 but still great.
>>332739176
>look
why not play it and try some of that stuff for yourself?
the combat flows together quite well I've noticed - for a tech demo
can't wait for the demo close to the release with full combat
>>332738990
I honestly hate the "hold to action" trend that Type-0 (Did it really have that I never noticed) and Lightning Returns started. I honestly wish there was something similar to this games dodging mechanic with Just-Attack,but (pic related)
>>332739146
it depends
my first time was roughly 30 minutes
second time I actually found secret shit and fought the giant a few times so it was over an hour
>>332738685
It's because you don't feel the feedback from your inputs. The attacks respond too slow and don't have a clear ending or start.
If they are going to make an action game they should commit to it fully and takes cues from other action games like DMC
>do flip dodge with the sword
>oh shit
>do spin attack with greatsword
>Iron Giant stunned
>warp away and throw shurikens and blast his ass with fire
>warp attack with greatsword
>dies
fuck the combat just got fun as shit
>>332735125
Just like muh classic ff
>>332739465
I agree.
>>332735437
Well, I mean. If this was a series known for deep turn based combat I guess you'd have a point. But come on.
>FF
>deep turn based combat
>>332739359
>(Did it really have that I never noticed)
Yeah, you hold down to attack and do gestures with the analogue stick to do different moves.
But, they are all Fabula Nova Crystallis, and Tabata was the director of Type-0, so it makes sense.
>>332739465
Fuck off already retard. Copying other games is retard. They should stick to their own formula. Having hold to combo is for the casuals to enjoy the game. You can still do more complex combo if you try it out.
Saying games should copy each other is fucking cancer, and you need to die immediately.
>>332739359
It had it, but pushing buttons normally did the same thing and was often better with all the directional inputs.
>>332739465
If it's on the same level as kingdom hearts mechanics, I won't mind.
>>332739616
Agree 100%, but don't fall for such obvious b8 m8.
>>332739763
I'm sorry. Just sick of this dmc fanboys.
Why do I keep seeing webms and shit like in the OP where Noct is clearly jumping mid-air but I can't in the demo.
Someone on here even told me if you want to air dodge you should be jumping. It seriously does not work, am I missing something?
>>332739801
Air dodging in this demo is a technique of the sword, look at what it's called.
>>332734402
literally not FF anymore
It's not an action game, fags.
>>332739465
Agreed. Well at least at KH level I would be satisfied. Dmc and Bayo have some learning curve that I really.... Wait a minute... That fits exactly. DMC and Bayo style games need a certain time to be able master the controls properly. And with the time consuming style (a.k.a grinding) of JRPGs.. Fuck that is a match made in heaven.
>>332739856
So if I have the sword equiped then pressing x mid-air allows me to jump?
>>332740014
Oh, you want a double jump?
Technically you can't in the demo, but doing certain directional attacks midair with the sword allows you to jump higher.
This is not a Final Fantasy game. This looks like Sakurai went off to make a snail's paced DMC5.
Eceleb threads are more vidya related than this to final fantasy.
INSERT /v/ FOOD RELATED ANALOGY HERE.
>>332739070
If it we me, I'd nerf Noctis and let the players control all of the party member by holding the L1 button + R3 direction. At least the game won't feel as repetitive. And allowed more variety of play-style.
>no gun in the demo
god dammit tabataaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Other than that, I've spend over 3 hours in this demo just playing around with the combat, and it has a lot of hidden shit.
>>332740140
>This looks like Sakurai went off to make a snail's paced DMC5.
>what is kingdom hearts
>>332740184
That's the main thing, really. Even if other characters don't contribute some critical new functionality, it provides variety to the player. I hope there are extensive attack options for each weapon that they just haven't told us about, because otherwise it could get quite repetitive after 50-60 hours.
>>332740006
Hopefully inDragons Dogma 2,anon...
Hopefully...
>>332739465
No.
This is not meant to be a DMC, KH or even Dark Souls for that matter.
This is a command oriented Final Fantasy title first, action game second.
I know it's a difficult concept.
>>332738149
yeah worst shitposters around
the previous gameplay thread were nowhere near this toxic
How different is it to Episode Duscae?
Is it still hold the X button until the bar goes to the bottom? It was the most disconnected and dull combat system I've ever experienced.
>>332740309
>kingdom hearts
>slow
Unless there's some KH3 gameplay I haven't seen yet, you're fulla shit m80. That and KH doesn't try to be DMC unlike whateverthehell this is
>>332740392
Okay, I missed the whole stream and presenation, just saw the demo and the anime episode...BUT WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!?
What would you guys ratter have.
New Luminous build that rarely sustains 30 FPS with amazing visuals, or old Luminous build with slightly worse visuals and decent FPS that holds 30 majority of the time?
I'm prefer the downdrage considering this tweet. I'd gladly buy this game twice. I'm really enjoying the two demos.
>>332740501
car is one of the things you can fly
I remember a while back Tabata said you'd be able to take over the Empire's ships and fly them to.
Pretty sure that batmobile is a late game car upgrade.
>>332740501
>>332740561
at the end of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zydNkTjhcc
It was basically the 15th reveal, because people have been pestering them about an airship. Based Team Avalanche.
>>332740501
Possibly an excuse not to give you a personal airship.
why can't I have a cute female party member.
Persona 5 will let me have a cute female party member.
>>332740392
I wonder if the underwater region is still in the game. Would be neat if the car had a submarine mode.
>>332734402
All flash no substance the game.
That is just holding a button and ocasionally clicking another.
>>332740685
you can
they're guest members
>>332740392
>that camera angle
just fuck my ship up
>>332740453
I liked the combat in Duscae, I like it in Platinum Demo even more.
It's basically the same thing, only now you can switch weapons with the D-pad (as opposed to using analogue stick movements), which feels a lot better.
It's still hold O to attack, hold Square to dodge (I think those are different buttons from ED), but I like the combat.
I like that it's timing-based more so than combo-based. It feels unique and there's a certain skillset to be utilized there.
>>332739531
>that fucking feel when you perfectly block with the shield and it stuns the giant
>>332740347
They're planning on a sequel? Damn son. That's baller as hell.
>>332740783
dragoon lady? =0
I wish the controls were more responsive. It feels like they made it intentionally this way to give the enemies a chance to hit you, but that just means that the enemy AI and design is really bad. These are very worrying signs.
I wonder who will buy that pointless, yet sexy AF car.
I have an A4, but I would kill for that car.
Wait, was it for sale or not?
>>332740953
Ha!
What?!
NO!
I can dream ,can't I ?
>>332739531
Wait how do you do all that. How do you throw ninja stars
>>332740980
Luna is the only one confirmed so far.
I'm pretty sure there will be a point in the game where you play as her for a while.
Hopefully a flashback where you play as King Reggie.
>>332741003
It's not for sale at all.
>>332735915
I can't wait for some webms of this type of stuff.
>>332734402
>graphics are meh
Fuckin' really ?
>>332741179
So uh
what the fuck was the point
what a fucking waste of money
they could've had so many more collector's editions
>>332740990
dumb frogposter
>>332741024
Awww.. They're not? Damn, that reminds me, i haven't finished DD. Spoilered the ending. I don't want my Arisen to die damn it.
>>332739318
I did play it, wiseass. Had several runs at the Iron Giant too, trying to convince myself that "I just have to get used to it", but the combat just isn't that good. Have you played it? I struggle to imagine how anyone could think that combat is fun or satisfying.
>>332740990
They're not unresponsive at all, I don't know why people keep saying this. Maybe you haven't played it enough, but I can perfectly time a midair dodge, and that's hard as shit.
>>332734402
I've been legit waiting for Final Fantasy XV for around 9 years. This Platinum Demo was everything I had hoped for and more. I believe that it has the potential to stand on its own due to its intriguing concept. Allowing us to play as young Noctis before the main game has helped us in getting to know him on a more personal level. Thus, a bond has been formed between the player and the protagonist before he even starts to play the final game. When I walked down the steps of the Grand Citadel staircase to fight the Iron Giant it reminded of the first time I glimpsed Final Fantasy XV back in that E3 trailer all those long years ago and consequently my wishes were fulfilled completely. The inclusion of the amusing creature Carbuncle was an added bonus. Obviously this masterpiece is meant for those with the insight to appreciate a true work of art. In terms of story, gameplay, music as well as mesmerizing beauty.
>>332741398
Wow, way to turn to tables. Yes I have. I've learned how to dodge with the sword while doing air combos, and magic cancel. I'm sorry you don't like it, but don't go calling something this fun at barebones level shit.
>>332741258
Kinda if you're comparing with other AAA titles. But I don't mind though. Been so used to a toaster of a pc. But golly, Luminous engine if not choked by hardware limitations is really damn beautiful.
>>332741430
hello xv-kun
>>332734402
It could very well just be because I'm not good at it yet but I found the combat to be at times unresponsive, generally clunky and not very fluid, I don't care for the d pad switching I think it takes away from combat, I think that what was happening in the duscae might be better. I got use to the idea of finishing with heavy weapons but this time instead of chaining how you want with weapons its like "pick one and do what you can". However I will say the magic is awesome, makes you feel badass and it is strong as fuck. My main problem though is I just felt I wasn't in control ever.. It felt like I was always open for attacks, that it was hard to be cool. Wish they included more gameplay but besides that the world is pretty awesome. I was having a lot of fun just running around and enjoying what the demo had to offer, the plot seems like it's going to be grand too which is cool. All in all I'm excited for it but I need to sit down and play the fight some more to really get a grasp on the gameplay. I don't care for it as of now though.
>>332741464
Anyone could find anything fun. Doesn't make it good. I'll keep calling it what it is.
>>332741464
They really should put a tutorial or an instruction in the new demo so new players that didn't play ED would know what to do and all.
>>332741593
You're mean.
>>332741529
Text not big enough.
>>332741626
Yeah, dunno why they didn't.
Guess the main focus of this demo was literally tech. Showing off day/night cycles and weather, some different environments.
We were promised a free demo with the whole crew in Lucis.
>>332741290
They were probably trying to show off for no reason at all. Squeenix loves wasting money on pointless shit.
I thought they were going to announce a worldwide giveaway, but no.
>>332741720
There's more demo? This game is literally Final Fantasy Type - Demo
>>332741792
>they gave it to Greg Miller
>>332741407
Not that guy but I heavily disagree with you.
The timing for the dodges is fine that's not the problem. It's how much of a delay there is between pressing the button and an attack hitting or a jump coming out.
So is this going to be the final demo or what?
>>332741621
How do you get up there? I couldn't figure out how to warp anywhere
>>332741849
That'd be a tragedy.
Not even a fan of the series and most likely won't play XV, but gets the car...
>>332741846
Well they said something about free DLC, so who the fuck knows if they meant for the main game or the demo.
But Tabata said not too long ago that there would be a demo with full combat with all the guys and more magic and shit.
>>332737160
>being a shitter
>>332736992
2fm& coded really.
>>332740808
B-B-BUT IT'S CINEMATIC!!!!
>>332740339
Man, they should fire the game designers and hire people who actually played games.
>>332740392
This is cool but I had the idea of being in a big ass airship and having a base. Fuck were never getting classic ff are we?
>everyone thinking this demo for a game 6 months away will be exactly like the final game
Yep, I'm on /v/.
>>332742109
There are still those huge rowboat airships, and they've said you'd be able to fly enemy airships n shit.
>2016
>flying car
>>332742136
Are you kidding me? There's absolutely zero reason to think this won't be just like the final product. It is the second demo, and 6 months isn't that long. This has been in development for much longer. They wouldn't have given us something they weren't confident about or didn't represent the final game.
>>332742216
>2016
>no flying cars
>>332742249
This is just a tech demo to showcase weather and environments. The combat is just a sneak peak. They've still said there will be a demo with proper combat with the full party on the way.
>hold button to win
>input lag is almost as bad as Heavenly Sword
>people defend this shit and say it is good
It's hilarious how after 10 years, this is what they came up with.
>>332738518
>muh sick aircombos
>giant literally just stands there doing nothing the entire time
sasuga anon truly this is the most amazing combat system ever
>>332741906
Carbuncle gives you the warp ability after a while during the battle. He gives you other shit, too. Not sure if it's time based or Low HP based.
i-t's air b-button
>>332736578
This because if people shitstorm and the game is terrible they can blame it on being a beta then just release the "full" game two weeks later without any backlash
Tfw no more demo discs with your ps1 magazine
So what ability do you think Carbuncle will have in the game? Resurrection like in this (doubt that Phoenix is in here), or his classical one?
>>332742371
Wonderful.
>>332742371
>They've still said there will be a demo with proper combat with the full party on the way.
Source?
I'm very excited about this, but, even if I understand what this demo is, this has dissapointed me a little bit.
>>332739318
I'm just happy Cidney didn't get censored.
>>332742559
One of the ATRs. Tabata and cap-man said there would be a combat closer to the release with full party combat in Lucis.
>>332742587
And they made dragoon's tits bigger since 2011.
>>332742587
>>332738518
>moron gets hit every time
>just button mashes between using his stun lock warp strike
Literally the same as hitting a Target Dummy.
What a shit game
>>332742587
Still laugh at Ignis in this webm.
"I'm gonna go talk to her bros, I'm gonna do it, I'll do it... fuck I can't do it"
>>332736160
I know these consoles are weak but fuck, why they keep downgrading it so much? At this rate soon it will be xcx levels.
Seems like SE is rushing development quite a lot.
Tbh the first demo had way better combat. Putting different weapons to separate parts of a combo was really interesting, the system in the new demo is boring and generic.
>>332742559
Something from an older ATR. They said there would a free demo with the whole party using magic and team abilities, even a bit of the car.
>>332734402
Hav you ever played Folklore?
>>332742483
Reflect?
He might be there for aesthetics. I dunno how they might work him into the battle system unless he's a summon.
>>332742787
Yeah it's shit. It was failure for a reason.
Can we have some real critique that doesn't cry about the "MUH FPS"
>>332742827
It looked interesting though.I have a copy.
>>332742787
No,but a radical dude made a good video about it.
Why do you ask?
>>332739605
It actually is though
>job system
>materia
>paragon
Amazing customizatoin that lets you break the game with some hardcore battles as optional bosses.
Kill the turtles without vanille death cheezing or atempt the trials in ff13. Shit's fucking tough.
>>332734402
there is nothing shit about the combat
There is a reason why you cannopt cancel animations retard
If you weild a small weapon you can dogde and move quicly and if you weild a hammer , well guess what slower response
Fucking retards
>>332742938
XIII has a lot of flaws and the fact that it takes forever to give you access to all of your tools is the biggest of them but I agree with you here. I don't think turtles are tough per se, but you do have to pay attention and maintain buffs, debuffs and stagger.
Endgame XIII is very involving gameplay but it's like 0.1% of the total content where it should be 99.9% of it
>>332742942
because realistic gameplay is the most fun
>>332735716
confirmed that you never played a ff game
You cretin
>tfw can't ride the cidney car
DLC:
Weapons
- Masamune (FFXV) : any ver., any retailers ;
- Blaze Edge (FFXIII) : any ver. sold by 7/11 (PS4/XO package ver. and PS4 DL Card) ;
- Gae Bolg (FFXIV) : any package ver. sold by Ama'.co.jp ;
- Mage Masher (FFIX) : any package ver. sold by Square Enix e-Store.
Outfit
- Royal Raiment Costume : Deluxe & Ultimate Collector's Editions only (from any retailers)
Car skins
- Platinum Leviathan : idem. Royal Raiment ;
- Sydney : any package ver. sold by Géo ;
- Golden Chocobo : any package ver. sold by Tsutaya ;
- Pixel Character : dl version sold on the PS and XB store (the 7/11 PS4 DL card is excluded).
Item
- Cooking Pack : any ver. sold by 7/11 ;
- Travel Pack : any package ver. sold by Ama'.co.jp & Geo ;
- Camera Kit : any package ver. sold by Tsutaya & Square Enix e-Store ;
- Fishing Pack : ant dl version (7/11 PS4 DL card excluded).
If you purchase the Ultimate Collector's Edition on the Square Enix e-Store or at 7/11, you'll get the 4 above mentioned packs.
>>332742942
Hm, not true. Even with a smaller weapon, the input delay is just too long. I'm thinking of certain ways this can contribute to strategic planning, but I just can't see it.
Even Monster Hunter differentiates what can be canceled and what can't be and it becomes natural. Since monsters here attack so fast and frequently, you have to have a combat system that enables you to react quickly. Even Monster Hunter lets you roll out quickly after a slow strike.
>>332743164
>there's going to be a Tifa DLC outfit for Cidney
>it'll cost real money
>>332738112
here is your reply pcuck senpai
>>332741430
this , the demo confirmed to me that this is gona be the best game i have ever played
And its only a minor taste for what is to come
Thank you for making this final fantasy team
>>332743164
Did they finally fix her name to Cidney or is she still Cindy?
>>332741551
its not dark sousl or bloodborne combat ofcourse but still one of the best combat systems on a game
You can teleport and slash and you can summon great beings in combat to destroy the whole place up for fucks sake
>>332743164
all the more reason to just wait for the PC release.
