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Why are they putting so many grapplers in this game? Did we really
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Why are they putting so many grapplers in this game? Did we really need another with the addition of Alex?

They might as well call it Street Wrestler V
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>>332717493
>Implying that's a problem
I just wish alex has a proper outfit
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>>332717581
I guess it's better than shotos
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>>332717493
>Zangief
>Laura
>Alex

woah 3 fucking grapplers better put in evil ryu, good akuma, slightly discontent ken back into the game to balance it out.
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>>332717927
>Mika
>Birdie
>Zangief
>Alex
>Necalli also has a command grab same as laura
I personally don't care but there a lot of grabs
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Wrestling is literally the greatest martial art. Almost impossible to beat wrestlers in an actual fight. They picked up on the fact.
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>>332718137
Command grabs are shit in this game. They are wasting slots
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When's Rog or Duds?

I need my boxer fix.
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It's like no one wants anyone to play the game? Lol nb5 git gud,
It's like if you offer even the slightest light punch they default to grabcity where they were born and have raised their children to also be grapplegrandmasters. I love this fucking game goddamnit
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>>332718137
>>Mika
mix ups
>>Birdie
range
>>Zangief
damage
>>Alex
mobility
>>Necalli also has a command grab same as laura
he only has a command grab to stop you from blocking since he's a pressure monster
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>>332718340
Same. I'd even be fine with kickboxing but they don't even have that anymore
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>>332717493
So that you can show the world your STRONG STYLE.
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im scared theyre going to make rog fat as fuck
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>>332718646
MUSCLE POWER
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At least Capcom learned their lesson with Zangief and removed his green-hand.

I'm an average Street Fighter player at best and I've massacred tons of people just by spamming green hand and SPD. Multiple 10+ game win streaks online and against people on a vanilla SF4 arcade in real life.

Then an actual good player comes along and that shit don't work anymore.
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>>332718653
They should give him face tats like modern day Tyson
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>>332718747
>Green hand staying gone
>when Alex has many tools to get in and the damage.

Nope I'd bet next year when they do balance changes Green hand is going to make its return to halt power creep.
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>>332718981
Because Alex was designed around being the mobile grappler.
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gief is bad tho. so bad snake eyez says he might stick with alex until they buff him
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>>332717927
>>332718137
You're both retarded. Necalli isn't a grappler. There's only four of them in this game, five if you count Laura.

That's like a fourth of the roster now, but once they add in more characters, the ratio will be fine.

Better than vanilla SFIV, where literally a bigger ratio were fucking shotos, I think.
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>yfw balrog gets a command grab
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>>332718137
>Necalli
>Grappler

So by having a command grab, this guy's a grappler too ?
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>>332718847
anything but being fat like modern day mike.
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>>332719269
>>332719527
I never called Necalli a grappler I said he has a command grab and they're a lot of command grab moves in the game.
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laura and alex isn't grapplers. thats like saying ibuki and makoto are
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>>332719527

No, that guy is a shit.
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>tfw we'll never get Q and Asura
I just want muh dicksplosions and (B) Extend Arm
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>>332719440
His grab ultra in 4 left a lot to be desired
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>>332719527
I wish there was an Omega Seth with more moves like Hakan slide and Jaguar kick
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>>332719590
>Alex who is based off pro wreslting
>His main fucking move are chops german suplexs and power boms
>Not a grappler
Nigga
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>>332719590
>laura
jiu jitsu is grappling
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>>332719885
>>332720083
>their fighting style is based off whatever therrfore they must be grapplers!

No retards their main attacks has nothing to do with fucking grappling, shutouts to not playing the game, they will and should rarely use it
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>>332718981
To offset his mobility, Alex command throws have short range and 6f startup.

SFIV Zangief had a 2f startup SPD that covered half the screen on top of his ex-green hand going through projectiles and being safe on block.

Face it, Gief was brain dead as fuck in SF4, I always loved playing grapplers, but I hated that Zangief.
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>>332720475
this shit is so true, low effort/skill but high reward because of that grab
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There's no such thing as too many grapplers in a fighting game, Capcom can get them coming.
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>>332720372
>Alex main attack has nothing to do with grappling
>His headbutt is a grab
>His fucking chop is to set up a german suplex
>His fucking super is a powerbomb
>His V trigger is a closeline to set up a germen suplex
Nigger are you a fucking retard?
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>>332720475
>safe on block
Fuck me, I meant safe on hit.
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>>332720372
laura has hitgrab specials, a command throw and grab super, and an anti air grab

alex has a command grab that gets stronger when the opponents grab is turned, an anti air grab, and a headstun grab.
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>>332720372
Jiu

Jitsu

Is

Grappling
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>>332720475
Man, I remember when people were complaining about the ex hand knockdown removal nerf.
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>>332720581
all of those are actually useless besides his suplex. wouldn't call anyone a grappler based off dat

>>332720641
that it is, but laura still isn't a grappler
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>>332720893
>Powerbomb
>Useless
Fuck off
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>>332720475
SFIV also had a shitload of moves that were airborne so Gief's grab would whiff. I was more afraid of OS Gief than his grabs in SFIV.
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>>332720967
suplex is a powerbomb yo
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>>332717493

Well Balrog is next so we'll finally get some boxer love, too bad Dudley probably never.
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>>332720372
>100% of their moves aren't grappling, so they aren't grapplers

You're entertaining whether joking or not.
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>>332721103
>Well Balrog is next

How do you know?
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>>332721103
Guile is next pleb
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yo niggas, go watch any alex or laura combo vid or tutorial, dey aint grabbin shit, wonder y dat is. Makoto is more of a grappler than either
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>>332721103
>yfw it's Urien next
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>>332720475
>mfw i just started fighting games and people start talking about frames near me and I act like I know wtf theyre saying
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>>332721325
how do you know?
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>>332721438

I wouldn't mind that, as long as it's not Juri
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>>332721503
they don't know shit. they are basing that crap off of one picture

if anything it's rog since he is actually done
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>>332721103
>>332721325
There's no order, anybody could be next.

>inb4 it's Juri
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>>332717927
You forgot Mika. Cammy and Necali are quasi-grapplers.
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>>332721438

>Voice actor confirmed as David Boat

I hope he's good, Alex and him are the only characters I plan to keep as English.
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>>332721362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MevLTkcP23k
Get ready to do some counting, wrong ass bitch.
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>>332721362
>combo vids for grapplers
You don't know these characters work do you


Sure maybe there's one or two combos ending in a command grab, but really you want to make set ups for command grabs.
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>>332721671
>only two updates actually add features.

reee.

Feels like forever to wait though
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>>332721803
Dat shoulder shit is a shoulder attack aka not a grab with a grapple animation to it, shit is still not a command grab, therefore not a grappler, hold dat shit

>>332721804
NO U
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can i mash throw when i know someones going to throw to break it?
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>>332720581
I agree but his super is a Razor's Edge, not a powerbomb
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>>332721884
Supposedly they still need to add the daily challenges, but we don't know when that one is coming, hopefully on the next update.
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>>332721962
Sorry bad guy don't cut me
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>>332722012
Forgot about that one. Call me a scrub, but i need things like daily challenges to keep me practicing.

Hopefully they add more trails to existing characters too
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>>332721939
>comments on one move
>reply comes in less than 2 minutes
>video is 7:07 long
>showcases every single move Laura can do

Do you even know what grapple means? ADD is one thing, but no one can be this dumb.
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Anyone has cozy Alex to complete my cozy street figher folder? Feel free to request btw
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>>332722181
>daily challenges to keep me practicing.
they're probably gonna be simple, like

activate V trigger
win 2 rounds
do V-reversals
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>>332722230
Fuck forgot to attach one of my cozys
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>>332722215
Nigga please, I main laura, calling her a grappler because she has one shitty command grab and a shoulder attack that has an animation of a grapple is retarded.

>ibuki makoto and vega are now grapplers
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wait,
how do you define a grappler exactly?

seems no one here can agree on a definition
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>>332722353
I main Laura too and I call her a grappler
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>>332722353
I guess Abel isn't a grappler either
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>>332722353
Laura's hit grabs cause hard knockdowns which leads to grappler-like okis. There aren't a lot of hard knockdowns in V, but Laura has tons.
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>>332722482
he isn't, he is focused around high low bullshit whatever it's called and throwing in the command grab as a mixup, which he should rarely use
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What's gonna happen to Adon? Nash's Moonsault Slash man...
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>>332722353
>>332721362

u ain't black stop playin
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>>332721103
I'd actually like a new boxer character based off Prince Naseem. Wily fast movement, with crazy mixups, heavy damage finishers, but poor stun gauge and low health with subpar range on his normals forcing him to commit.
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>>332722353
>I main laura
Then I truly pity your lack of understanding. Maybe you should finish watching the video and see all the moves you are missing out on.

>ibuki makoto and vega are now grapplers
No one said this. Since we're going for shitty logical fallacies at this point, how about you grapple this dick?
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>>332722332

>Alright... let's rumble
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>>332722230
Cozy NYC
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>>332722591
Adon's move is a lot faster than moonsault at least.
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Anyone for a SFV Lobby?
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>>332722630
Please tell me there are gifs of this cocky fuck getting heem'd
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>>332722648
i am lesbian, and no they still aint grapplers lol.

but forealz though laura main thing to do in matches is block strings with mp, use ex fireball and go for mixups, none of that shit is grabs.
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>>332722591
I think Adon is out unless they give him a pretty big overhaul. I don't expect to see him, Fuerte, Dee Jay, T.Hawk, or Gen in this iteration.
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>>332722758
Sure.
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what rank are you guys in?
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>>332722770
Hahaha nope. His only loss in his career was by decision.
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>>332722921
No knockdowns?
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>>332722824
I didn't ask about your sexuality. Flat out told you: Grapple this dick.

>but forealz though laura main thing to do in matches is
Even if what you are saying is true about that shit being her BnB, it doesn't make her less of a grappler. Let's say you play Zangief and use none of his grappling moves. Does that make him less of a grappler? No. It makes you someone who isn't using a grapplers grapples.
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>>332722770
>>332722921
HAHAHAHAHA!
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>>332721775
>Urien is Lexaeus

Could be voice, he does have the voice of a big man whose disgusted at everything.
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>>332722630
>I'd actually like a new boxer character based off Prince Naseem.
If anything, we need a boxer based off of Muhammad Ali for fuck's sakes.

But I'm not sure how that'd be any different.
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>>332722452
A grappler is someone with two or more command grabs, excluding EX and Supers. That said, there are "Strike Grapplers" that are characters who have grapples that can only be triggered upon hitting an opponent that isn't blocking. So Zangief is a pure grappler, but Laura is a strike grappler. That's how I define it at least.
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>>332723069
a char whose main bnb doesn't involve command grabs, hmmmm. Sounds like a not a grappler to me!
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>>332722838
I'd Fattius best of 1 3 rounds pass 4422
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>>332722312
I want to see
>Play X Matches as [Character] *
>Win Y Matches as [Character] *
>Win one Round using [Character's] Critical Art *
>*Progression tracked in both Ranked and Casual Matches
With a random character for each player each day (not the same character for everyone).
Make folks get out of their comfort zone and learn more about everyone instead of never straying from their main.
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>>332722837
>T. Hawk

Thank fucking god
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>>332723238
Glad we confirmed that you don't understand the very basest of concepts. I'd say "I hope you've learned from this experience," but I'm a realist.
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>>332723135
I'm not passing judgement until I hear him go

CRUSH

KILL

DESTROY

EEEEEEEYAH
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>>332723540
We'll get those except for the "eeeeyah!" As Alex stands, he doesn't have the "doooowah" when he power bombs people.
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>>332723135
>>332721775
I could see this working

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGoWQmF8LP4
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>>332723249
gg, sorry for being bad.
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>>332723723
Yes he does. He does it during ex back drop.
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>>332717493
Alex is as much a grappler as Necalli.
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>>332723782
It's cool I suck too Nash just stronk Gg bro
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>>332723754
>>332723540

As close as we're gonna get till the trailers
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Alex x Patricia doujins when??
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>>332723827
Oh shit, I'll have to check that then. He doesn't say "at ease, losah" or "weak" during anything, does he?
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>>332723951
Unfortunately no. We do get a non engrish of Let's Rumble from TvC though.
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So is there an actual property difference between Laura's quarter circle forward > punch and quarter circle forward > kick? Or is it just purely an animation difference?
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>>332723856
Christ, I really can't play for shit. Probably going to back out and stop wasting your time.
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>>332724076
One she changes sides, the other doesn't.
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How can people stand Gootecks? He's super normie 40 year old dude pretending to be a 20 year old.
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>>332724076
no diffference besides positioning, I KNOW SINCE I MAIN THE USELESS BITCH
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>>332724076
you end up on a different side afterwards with each one.
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is this game going to get a hyper ultra ultimate super edition?
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>>332723782
>>332724094
What's your psn so we can play more at other times? Bro birdie us my main I put in a lot if time with him come back we all gotta learn I suck too
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are servers particularly bad tonight or is my internet just being shitty? taking forever to match me up with 4-5 bar connections, usually takes 2 minutes tops.
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>>332724180
nobody fucking likes him, his shitty get rich/rip off the fgc schemes, not a good personality, also the reason why he has nothing going for himself why is partner mike mother fucking ross has a good gig working at twitch. he is so upset over that too
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How's Alex's win/loss ratio against each character right now?
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>>332724351
Is he upset over that?
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>>332724283
I'll send out a friend request real quick.
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>>332724274

Capcom said no, but they might have to do it now in order to save the brand. SFV's launch was a fucking disaster.
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>>332724425
Yeah he is, he is still upset twitch kicked him off for streaming a party that he was being a dj for, and twitch had a rave/party something going a few days later, he was so mad
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>>332724428
Join the lobby again if you can
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>>332724515
He absolutely fucking sucks at DJing though.
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>>332724565
this is hella true
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>>332724552
Gimmie a minute.
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>>332724180
He used to be really photogenic and good reaction face material, that's it really
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>>332724189
>Laura
>useless


love this meme, her wakeup game is the best.
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GG gmod
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>>332723249
ty based fattius

devourhour
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>>332724793
laura and gief are the two worst chars in the game.
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>>332718646
YEAOH
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>>332724515
I like how on Excellent adventures, the guests never seem to connect with him. They love Mike and get a laugh out of his little act but Gootecks is cringey as fuck.
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>>332720083
>>332720641

Joe Rogan is the Plato of this generation. Really makes you think
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>>332724909

A lot of pros think Laura is extremely underrated.

She's also won a few tournaments already.
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>>332724909
Laura has some range problems for her normals, but her damage is great and her mixups are beyond most of the cast. She's also won majors in Europe, so there's that.

I wouldn't be playing her if I didn't believe she wasn't strong. Same shit with Rose, it's just the playerbase isn't good enough to use her to her full potential despite her being extremely simple and straightforward.
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>>332718605
I wish they went back to the whole martial arts thing, now it's all about wacky characters without clear styles. Like FANG or Necalli or whoever. I guess pro wrestling is in at least...

Hyped for Rog though.
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>>332725246
>>332725309
those lauras got away with way too much shit that they shouldn't have, those wins don't really count way too early in sfv life also.

She is nothing more than an online scrub killer, she has no real damage and isn't a solid char.
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>>332725309

>Europe

hah
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>>332725484

>She is nothing more than an online scrub killer, she has no real damage and isn't a solid char.

She isn't meant to be a 'solid' character. Like Mika, she struggles in the neutral/footsies department but, as soon as she gets in it's 50/50s all day.
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>>332717493
Too bad command grabs are pretty sucky. There's not much point to putting so many wrestlers in the game when you neuter what makes them you unique. I guess I could see Alex and Mika having weaker grabs because they have other options but Gief having a 5f grab is an insult.
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>>332725527

Meanwhile, in the US, Asian players are winning all of your tournaments.
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>>332721671
I figured it was the order shown in the mystery lineup image, it went Alex Guile Rog then some others I don't give a shinryuken about.
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>>332725621
She isn't solid in that regard either, her mixups aren't really as strong as mika's, a lot easier to block and shut her down
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>>332725660
It's alright because most other moves got weakened pretty significantly. 3f jab is a commodity now.
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Any europoor relatively new to the game wanna play? Or just someone who doesn't mind playing someone new over and over (I don't care if I get crushed every time)
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>>332725660
isn't it sad, they are slow and don't even do that much more damage and stun. not even worth using most of the time as they should be, just use a normal throw instead
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>>332720475
>that very tiny period of time when gief was actually good.
>will never be allowed again
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>>332725801
Join the lobby in thread
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>>332725484
>it's early in the game's life but I can definitively say this about the character

:^)
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>>332725789
I know, the one character that should have it is gief.
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>>332726001
nigga the game was just released when dat shit happen, dat was a 100 years ago
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>>332725937
you're all american
one of our experiences will be fucked
guess i'll wait until more europeans are up
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>>332725484
I really love Laura as a character but I think about 90% of people who play her really under-utilize her and tend to go full dumb in an attempt at emulating Mika. I feel like there's something hidden underneath her obvious arsenal and nobody is touching on it.
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>>332726117
Are you that same guy from last night?
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>try to practice Alex online
>there's no opportunity to command at all unless it's a punish since everybody jabs on wake-up

Feels like I'm better off just using CC meaties.
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>>332722452
Other guy is tard

A grappler is a character whose strategies are built around their command grab. So getting in close and setting up tricky traps to land the grab. You can do this with any character's normal throws but they can be teched whereas a grappler's command throw can't be, hence they're superior (not to mention they do more damage). So superior that entire characters can be built around their grab. These characters are... grapplers!

Really though, a grappler is only a character for whom grappling with the throw is clearly the best strategy for using them. Any character can be played AS A grappler, but not all characters ARE grapplers. Gief does his best damage by setting up into his SPD and Super, but Abel could be played as a combo character ignoring his Tornado, and do just fine. He can be played as a grappler, even though he isn't strictly a grappler and nothing else.
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>>332726169
nigga please, sfv is boring and limited as fuck, what you see is what you are going to get. there will be no new tech
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>>332726197
I don't think so
why?
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I've honestly thought about making a grappler only tournament and having a belt made.
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>>332726270
I was playing against a UK lad last night and he was pretty good.
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>>332726212
You can grab outside of wakeup. And yes, you are better off with meaties if they always jab on wakeup.
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>>332726226
cool
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What are the chances Capcom gives gief a 3f grab?
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Speaking of command grabs, how was Abel in USFIV? For some reason he looked interesting to play
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I have lost all of my points and I'm back down to zero. Why do I suck so hard?
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>>332722630

Who's this glorious man?
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>>332717493
I wish Zangief still had the green hand.
On an unrelated note, Nintendo (or in this case, Harada) made Machamp in Pokken a copy of Zangief.
>Lariat
>Iron Body
>Armored EX running grab
>Spds
>aerial Spds
And I love it.
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>>332726359
I'm starting to worry I'll develop bad habits if I keep playing reckless-ass people like this.
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This birdie
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>>332726437
cr.hp into tons of damage
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>>332726476
He's just so fucking slow. He wasn't a speedster in 4 but at least he had a little mobility with greenhand. In V he feels like playing a statue.
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>>332722332
W... wheres Yoko Harmegeddon's other hand?
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>>332726675
Probably, but that's why you do battle lounges against high silver/gold if you can. Meaty cc is a useful tool at any level though.
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>>332726437
He was pretty much all-or-nothing, a lot like Laura. He had problems getting in on people and starting an offensive, but once he did, he starts tearing your ass wide open
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>>332726215
>Characters are defined by "game plans" and not special

Read any interview with the SFIV or SFV team. They define Sagat as a shoto because caring about "game plans" isn't what makes the character an X or a Y character. Story reasons aside, why should Ken, Sakura, and Akuma be defined as shotos when they all have different game plans? Oh, right, because they share similar special moves with Ryu. Grapplers aren't that complicated. No non-grappler like Vega has ever had more than one command grab because of that.
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>play against friend as Zangief
>figure I'll try to V-trigger into aerial SPD to be flashy
>whiff the SPD input and accidentally buffer his critical art somehow, which also whiffs

Being bad at fighters and using sticks is suffering.
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maybe they're trying to send a message
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>>332726675
3 frame jabs are the new random dragon punch since half the cast has no reversals. Don't feel bad for punishing spam.
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>>332727043
720 motions are one of the few things easier to do on pad than stick.
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he's more of a brawler than a grappler. I love alex and mika

plus alex's command throw has garbage range. It's not like zangief at all

don't worry there will be more sonic boom spam soon...
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Kek birdie
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>>332726212
sauce?
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>>332727258
I was using a stick, that's why I'm so exasperated at being as bad as I am. I'm trying to practice keeping my movements controlled instead of slamming the stick everywhere, but it's just making me perform even worse than before.
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>>332725660
Don't Mika's command grabs come out really fast actually?

Not sure about the others though. I know throw range in general has been nerfed.
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How salty have you gotten during a match?
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Anyone else wannav join the lobby
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>>332727635
Close to the point of tears, I don't always like what video games do to me.
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>>332727635
i got beat by some dude randomly mashing dp once. LEft my house and went on like a 40 minute drive, smoking with the windows down, going 80
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I'm thinking of switching to Laura as my main. Nash is definitely a solid character, but I'm finding his lack of interesting tech makes him kind of boring to play.
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>>332727635
Thankfully, I've mastered the art of maintaining my saltiness, to the point I'm in a constant state of near-zen.

I think that has to do with plugging over 300 hours into ranked Splatoon. That game did some dark shit to me.
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>>332727982
Join the Libby and test her out
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>>332727982
>...but I'm finding Nash's lack of interesting tech makes him boring to play
>so I'm gonna switch to the most one-note character in the game
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>>332728025
worst girl
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>>332728056
Fucking hell. My Alex is super scrubby right now.
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>>332728168

I wouldn't call Laura one-note at all. She has tons of cool setups, mix-ups and resets.
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>>332727421
How long have you been using it? It takes awhile to get used to.
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>>332728056
what is the lobby?
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give em a sniff
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>>332728178
I will power bomb you through the wall if you talk shit about her again
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>>332726926
But shotos are shotos because they share certain moves around which their strategies are based? Like grapplers based around their command throws? Like I said?

I would say there are more varieties of shotos than there are of grapplers, sure. But Sagat isn't all that removed from Akuma from Ken from Ryu. Hadouken, DP, space covering move (tiger knee, tatsu). That Sagat tends to zone and Ken tends to rushdown and Akuma tends to also rushdown but with a divekick and Ryu can sorta do them all doesn't make them any more different than Abel being able (heh) to combo as well as grapple more than Gief can.
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>>332728421
Few weeks. I still can't reliably pull off supers with it, even though I was fine with my shitty logitech controller.
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>>332728464
I would if I could, my friend.

Good job on Capcom for modeling decent feet in a video game for once.
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>>332728464
>>332717493
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>>332727635
>play a mika as alex
>guess when she's going to try and command grab/throw on my wake up, but miss-time my jab
>every
>fucking
>time
>lose and be mad at myself for the rest of the day
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>>332728456
>>332723249
That
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Do any of you also use alex's light stomp to pressure the fuck out of blocking oppenents
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>>332728594
her hair looks so stupid without the beret
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>>332728374
I'm still learning Nash too. Trying to get out of bronze hell is suffering
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>>332728594
Nice.
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>>332728594
So brushstrokes were their gimmick with 4, now there gimmick is clay? Is that an official thing ? I wish they would try the "looks like a human being gimmick"
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>>332728713

There isn't exactly a whole lot to learn with Nash.
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>>332726476
>Machamp
>SPD

Nigga what?
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>>332728837
Explain
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>>332728645
I prefer the stun gun headbutt, personally. I'm starting to learn that Alex can keep up the pressure pretty consistently against blocking opponents, thanks to the stomp, headbutt, and flash elbow.
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>>332728464

Aaah~
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So this is gonna sound scrubby.

But is Ryu's damage free? He does som much damage with little effort.
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>>332728976
stop using stomp and headbut, that shit is ass
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>>332728984
yeah he has free damage, basic as fuck damaging combos that can be topped off with super, easy to confirm shit with him too.
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>>332728713
I've given up getting out of bronze.
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>>332728976
what headbutt
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>>332728464

Maybe Juni gives them a rub after a tough day.
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>>332717493
Because America is the biggest market in the world and the only fighting art that america knows is wrestling.
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>>332729112
How so? I imagine overusing them is where you go wrong, but they're there to be used for a reason.

>>332729230
Same motion as the stomp, but with punch.
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And Zangief is my tilt match-up.
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>>332728984
Ryu's damage and stun is A+
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>>332729404
Kek
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>>332728976
>>332729112
Slash Elbow is decent for quick spacing and pressure, but it's not perfect.
Stomp is ok for punishing fireballs if you predict it but otherwise it losing it's ability to cross-up is a crime.
Stun Gun im not sure of, I guess it's kind of the same as stomp to punish.

But no you shouldn't be using them to break an opponent's block because you should POWER BOMBing if you have them scared.

But yeah I suppose you can catch people with it a few times but soon they'll be on the lookout for it and start punishing you.
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>>332729402
All alex specials are unsafe on block, even when ex'd. Anyone with a brain will punish or just spam jab.
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Holy shit I suck at zoning with dhalsim Guile when
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>>332728984
What do you mean by "effort"?
He doesn't get free openings, he hasn't got any mixups but yes his damage is very high in this game.

Got Plat yesterday, still feel SFIV is a better game at this point but SFV has potential.
The grind in this game is actually worse than SFIV, plenty of ~top100 folks are really good players but not deserving of top 100.

They basically just grind 24/7, it's like reaching a high rank in hearthstone with 52% winrate.
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I'VE HIT MY BOILING POI-
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fighting laggy rashids gives me cancer
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>>332728984
hes the main character
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>>332730078
Didn't seem leggy at all from spectators
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>>332729976
>backdashes
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>>332730078
Laggy kens are worse. It like being King Crimson'd
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>>332728984
Ryu's always done big chunks of damage in four moves or less, it's just that SFV has low health/high stun that makes it even larger this time around.
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>>332729883
>eu
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>>332730078
Shit sorry man. Also Im pretty sure I scrubbed out that Necalli win. Sorry to the both of you.
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>>332717493

>ALL THES EBROKEN GRAPPLERS
>Laura doesn't have a command grab, Gief has two, Birdie has one and a ranged "Grab" that can be blocked so its not a true command grab, Mika has a single command grab

Hell even in vanilla 4 had Abel, Seth, Gief, Honda, Rog (Ultra command grab), and Fei Long.
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post your fave 3 characters so far
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>>332729750
>All Alex specials are unsafe on block
Well, that makes sense. I don't see wh-

>even when ex'd
Hold up, even things like flash chop and flash elbow?
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I'LL KICK YOUR ASS
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>>332730138

No matches do, because spectating is just what the server sees, not the players.

>>332730431
It's ok, you apologized so I aint gonna stay mad. I guess I just gotta play different.
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>>332730409
Shitposting won't make you better at the game my friend.
Maybe you'll get out of silver one day if you do your best!
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>>332730624
Rainbow Mika
Birdie
Rashid
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>>332730673
Oh god a shoto GTAB
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>>332729976
What does Alex say during his v trigger?
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>tfw Im the Necalli in the lobby

good fights, this is more fun than fighting gold players that perfect me every round

I really can't figure out buffering charges though
Devour hour :(
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