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>>332659864
Take me out of the oven, because I'm so done. What the fuck, Blizzard?
>>332659864
Do they have some explanation for that? IIRC, the Nathrezim were basically the source of all evil since they corrupted Sargeras who then went onto this universe spanning corruption-tour.
Seems weird that they'd know have good guys in their ranks.
>>332659864
starcraft? is that you?
>>332659864
what the fuck?
>>332659864
Ragnaros 3.0 legs are for noobies.
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>>332660371
Can the light really corrupt people though?
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>>332660431
what the fuck
what
>The light corrupted the fucking burning legion into being good
Please tell me this is some shit /v/ made up and it's not actually what happened.
>>332659864
At this point WoW may as well be a porn site called CORRUPTED.Com
>>332660778
Technically the dreadlords were never corrupted. They just naturally lived in the twisting nether and were dicks.
>>332659864
>What is a leaked April Fools file
April Fools joke?
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>>332660903
Reminder, the light doesn't require you to be good, to use it.
Undead in Northrend have used the light.
Forsaken have used the light.
Scarlet Crusade (led by a demon) use the light.
Scarlet Crusade after turning undead, used the light.
The light can be used by anyone, if their belief to use it is strong enough.
So if that's the Burning Legion testing new "weapons" of sorts, it'd make sense.
>>332661137
>So if that's the Burning Legion testing new "weapons" of sorts, it'd make sense.
Wouldn't that "weapon" have to turn against them then though? I mean, I'll accept the belief-argument, but those believes would force the dreadlord's hand against the legion.
>>332661354
No, if someone is a cunt, they can still use the holy light to their benefit.
Arthas was a cock, and he killed loads of innocents and went mad, but he could still use paladin stuff.
It was only when he became a full blown DK did he lose it.
>>332661137
>Scarlet Crusade
>Bad
>>332661474
>'''''''''innocents'''''''''
>>332661474
>Arthas was a cock, and he killed loads of innocents and went mad, but he could still use paladin stuff.
Yeah, because he believed it to be the right thing (and he probably wasn't even entirely wrong about that).
But how do you fight for the legion and still manage to convince yourself that you are one of the good guys?
>>332661474
PS: this doesn't mean they HAVE to fight the legion.
The light, and Void, even Fel, doesn't dictate who you need to fight.
It may influence you eg:
"I've used fel, if I fight with the legion i'll get MORE powerful"
"I've used holy power, if I fight with the naaru i'll get powerful"
"I've used void magic, if I join the old gods i'll get more powerful"
But you don't have to join them.
You can use those magics, and still remain loyal.
It's why the horde and alliance have warlocks, and why demon hunters fight the legion, and why the scarlet crusade were bad.
etc etc.
>>332661654
Because if the legion genuinely think they're doing the right thing, then the light will serve them, regardless.
>>332661573
The un-infected of stratholme.
>>332661493
They were. They were originally good, but they were ultimately misled.
>>332661474
warcraft paladins are more jedi than dnd paladin
>>332661654
DOUBLE AGENT!!!!!
>>332661878
Depends on what race.
Humans are jedi
Blood elves are DND paladins
Draenei are Grey Knight Space Marines
Dwarves are similar to humans, but a mix of traditional paladins as well.
>tauren ooga booga da sun gibe de power
>>332662041
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>>332661137
While i'm here, I may as well highlight:
I am loreman, ask me whatever, I'll know it.
>Only game story
>Not the fucking books, fuck that.
I am a RPer on Argent Dawn EU. If you need anything clarifying, just ask yo.
>>332661137
If you don't consider yourself righteous you can't use the light. Tirion lost his powers when he was full of guilt and doubt.
Also the Scarlet Crusade gets to use the light because of fanatism which is actually a pretty neat mechanic in the RPG. They consider themselves to be doing good, thus they are when it comes to using the Light.
>>332662458
As do the legion.
Hell, sergeras legit believes he is doing the right thing, the best thing, for the entire Universe.
>type in sergeas, it gets highlighted as incorrect. One of the first fixes is Asperger. my fucking sides.
>>332662423
>Not the fucking books, fuck that.
But the books have been the only vaguely consistent writing since Cataclysm, and the in-game world is years out of date.
>>332662423
where can I find jaina in game? and can i talk with her if im in horde? or npcs will attack me?
>>332662576
>One of the first fixes is Asperger
Surprisingly fitting.
>>332662659
That's a theory.
Did Sergeras have aspergers? All the other titans were A-OK with fighting evil, but because he couldn't put them in order properly, he had a spazout.
>>332662632
Books, i'd consider reading them if I get them online for free. I'm not paying for some books, i pay enough for blizzard shit as it is.
>>332662641
Jaina is usually found in theramore, if you use the bronze dragon outside of the walls. She reverts it back to before it was blown up.
Seeing jaina anywhere else requires either quests, or cutscenes, as she doesn't have a direct world presence anymore after theramore went bang.
its the demon inside ashbringer or someshit like dat
>>332662423
What the fuck are the Syalen and what is blood magic in WoW?
>>332662641
You can talk to her at the end of Siege of Orgrimmar as Horde, but she won't say much.
>>332663154
You want a slap?
The ashbringer's central core was originally a gem, purified by the light and instilled with massive amounts of power thanks to it.
The ashbringer gem is SAID to be a remnant of a naaru, which as you know when they die, they turn into void beings.
>>332662964
Jaina does have a world presence, she's in Dalaran once you're caught up with the story.
![Gt+has+2+handguns+gt+takes+picture+of+them+sitting+_4887d45a7e75682819161ab21c0d9013[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/2rGh8ap.png "Gt+has+2+handguns+gt+takes+picture+of+them+sitting+_4887d45a7e75682819161ab21c0d9013[1].png")
>>332662632
not the guy you replied to but
the warcraft books are a typo ridden mess that at were farted to retcon deathwing into beign a "badass" so they could kill him off in cataclysm in the lamest way possible
but in the process they also took a complete dump on all things pre-wow, to the point where replaying wc2 feels like you are playing a game set in a different universe
and replaying wc3 feels like watching pictures of your old friend before she became a crackhead
the books now just server to conjure new bad guys out of thin air and to fill the endless fucking plotholes
tl;dr
knaak and golden are hack frauds
>>332663291
Where in Dalaran is she?
>>332663394
violet citadel
>>332663467
No she's not?
Level 100, all current content completed.
She's nowhere to be seen.
>>332663386
>the warcraft books are a typo ridden mess that at were farted to retcon deathwing into beign a "badass" so they could kill him off in cataclysm in the lamest way possible
I don't disagree. I still think they have more internal consistency than the game itself.
>That alliance hub
Confirmed. Varian RIP. Anduin, possible double kill?
Greymane leader of alliance confirmed.
>>332659864
What the ever loving shit am I looking at
>>332663641
>all current content completed
>rhonin
>>332663763
>Alliance goes to shit
>Horde becomes great again
I might get into legion
Why are WoWbabies so impressed by cheap glow effects?
>>332663704
The game lacks consistency due to timeline errors, though.
Classic: back in time Cataclysm.
BC: back in time to BC era.
Wrath: back in time, but forward from BC.
Cata: Forward in time, yet back in time from current, still.
Mists of Pandaria: Back in time somewhat, still going forward at least.
Warlords of draenor: Current, yet the entire fucking content world is still back in time.
It's a big, fat mess.
>>332663871
>Alliance goes to shit
>Horde goes to shit
>Scourge's back baby!
It's entirely possible that it's a pre-burning legion Nathrezim
>>332659864
That's nothing.
The Fourth Horseman
Meet At The Gates
Speak with Darion Mograine.
Prepare for Invasion
Prepare for Invasion.
Raise Tyrion Fordring
Raise Tyrion Fordring
>>332661137
Lorefag here, this anon is correct. Its the reason why we have Tauren Paladins right now. They have no concept of 'the light'. In their world view, they are sun paladins
If you took a big dumb ogre, gave him a rock and told him that rock would give him command over the light. He could be a Paladin just as well as anyone else. The light only demands belief, nothing more.
>>332663996
Scourge can't be great again until Sylvanes dies
>>332664050
>Sylvannas goes nuclear
>Raid-boss sylvannas
>When we kill her Koltiras and Thassarian comeby and go like "We have to finish her sentence!"
>An ebon knight beheads her.It's a raid DK chosen at random if possible
Yes.
>>332664045
So:
Nazgrim
Thoras Trollbane
Tirion Fordring
And most likely Inquisitor Whitemane (NPC "Initiate Whitemane" found and DK campaign location "Scarlet Enclave".
DK's are getting over the top stuff.
>>332664046
Or you literally steal the light from a Narru like the BE's did. Blizzard can't keep their lore straight.
>>332664046
>Implyiny Blizzard isn't just pulling things out of their ass because it's convenient
>>332663815
That is literally -THE- current scenario.
It's because Dalaran is in Northrend, and any other new event that includes dalaran. (Mists of Pandaria, where the blood elves were imprisoned.) that's phased.
So it's still back in time, regarding the world assets.
See:>>332663948
>>332664259
Actually the last one is probably Kolitra.
So, I don't if he dies (again) or if a DK needs to be dead to become a Horseman or like, now I'm just confused
>>332664002
>pre-burning legion Nathrezim
But they were always douchebag corrupters
Its cause of them and the Old Gods that Sargeras went batshit over-the-top when he tried to purge them from the Universe.
>>332664268
Forcing stuff to do your bidding is a big part of WoW lore, hell, elemental mages call upon the same source of power as the Shaman do- save for that they use magic to FORCE the elements to do their bidding.
>>332664286
There is literally nothing lore breaking about this. The light has always been the enemy of undead inside the Warcraft universe but has no overt strengths against demons.
>>332664347
Nah, he just needs to be saved and becomes a regular follower like Darion and Thassarian, not a horseman.
If Koltira became one then Thassarian should've become one too, but with Tirion in that's now impossible.
>>332664215
Fuck that she isn't even good enough for a raid boss. She should either die a pityful death like the bitch she is or the Valkrin God king purges her
>>332663948
It's really not that hard to comprehend. Just put some arbitrary dates on the "eras".
Classic- 0-99
TBC- 100-199
Wotlk- 200-299
Cata- 300-399
MoP- 400-499
WoD- 500-599
Legion- 600-699
Any time you step into an instance, you're essentially traveling to that time period when those events happened. You can't kill the same guy multiple times, after all. You only defeated the LK once, for example.
So current leveling is 300. When you enter an instance that wasn't affected by Cata, you effectively travel back to 0-99. That being said, you're not directly time traveling. You're just experiencing what you did in the past. As you level, you're just experiencing the actions you did in the past. Your character, lore-wise, doesn't level. It's just a game mechanic.
>>332664268
They used magic to sap the light from it, but it still allowed them to use it.
For that nathrezeem, they could have sapped the light and then used it on themselves, we just don't know.
>>332664286
True. Mr. Kozak tends to do that.
>>332664259
I actually cannot wait for the new four horsemen and Kel'thuzad serving bolvar.
>>332664002
No, because he has scars on his head where his horns were. Nathrezim were naturally demonic, but the burning legion made them glow more green, same with other demons too.
UUUUNICOOOOOOORN! UUUUUUUNICOOOOOOOORNNNNN!
>>332664215
The sad part is that Sylvanus is going to be redeemed so she's not going to hell anymore AND becomes Warchief in Legion
>Stopped caring about lore after they took the powers from the dragon aspects at the end of Cata.
Blizzard never fails to prove I made the right choice.
>>332664573
Is that an actual horn or just some armor?
>>332664573
Is that the fucking Stag model with armor on and a horse tail?
>>332664573
>slap a glow affect on the horn
>brilliant ship it for $25 on the store that'll give the players some content to tie them over.
>>332664448
I personally always wanted Tharassian and Koltiras, as well as Nazgrim and Admiral Taylor to be the four horsemen.
FOUR HORSEMEN.
TWO PAIRS OF BROS.
>>332664587
She cheats herself out of hell by risking the player's life and then saving them.
Also she just over-takes because lor'themar is a literal WHO plus nobody listens to him, cairne is irrelevant, pandas do not exist.
>>332664387
>But they were always douchebag corrupters
The ones that we know of, sure. Velen is an eredar. No different than Kil'Jaden and Archimonde. Perhaps the Nathrezim have factions similar.
>>332664713
There needs to be one female, will msot likely be Whitemane. original 4 had Lady Blaumeux.
I don't mind if it's Whitemane.
>>332664259
God damn we are getting the perfect line up
>>332664727
Well to be fair, they need someone in charge and Slyvanus was a Ranger General. In fact, she was the very model of the modern Ranger General
>>332663948
The issue is that they sometimes go back to correct those, and sometimes they don't, and sometimes they only do it half-assedly.
Like how the orc guards were finally removed from Undercity in Warlords of Draenor.
>>332659864
>yellow protos
>>332664851
Fuck that.
Lor'themar would fix everything in a day.
>>332664831
>>332664831
I would not mind seeing those thighs once again.
>or abbendis from the scarlet crusade, with her head stitched back on.
>>332664259
Wait are they forcing people to become a Horseman? Because I don't think Tirion would willing let himself become a Death Knight, of all things, even if it did let him fight another day.
>>332662423
What's that night elf woman doing in that tower in Silithus?
>>332664951
MSGA
>>332664813
They have a distant cousing called the Tothrezim.
But they are as douchey and work as debt collectors and infernal merchants IIRC.
>>332664962
Tirion has always been the biggest bro he'll come back and still be able to use the light most likely
>>332664727
>Cairne is irrelevant
He's also dead. Try to keep up with the lore son
>>332664951
I like Lor'themar too, but the dude just doesn't want to be a leader. It's Saurfang all over again, although he apparently is the Orc leader in Legion. Which means he is probably going to die in Legion.
>>332664837
>>332664259
It's gonna be really weird though, especially for Forsaken DK's.
We break Koltira out of UC, we kill Galen to unlock his father's tomb, we fucking invade LHC (paladin class order hall) to get to Tirion's corpse.
I get it's the whole "necessary evils to defeat the legion thing" but hell, when we survive the Legion's invasion there's going to be hell to be paid.
>>332665008
Getting fucked by a Sentinel futa, quite possibly.
Silithus is practically dead now. Noone goes there, it's abandoned.
No need to level there, as you're 60 before reaching it.
No quests to take you there.
Mats for farming are better obtained in other zones...
Sad, really.
>>332664962
Well it sounds like it's Bolvar and Morgaine are the ones doing the asking. Those two were like his best friends back in the day
>>332665094
Death knights don't give a fuck anon they only live for Justice by this point
>>332665065
Saurfang's getting tired of everyone's bullshit at this point.
I'd like Lor'themar and Saurfang meet up and do a non-lethal mak'gora against the rest of the horde leaders for the horde leader belt.Wrestling style.
>>332663871
>Horde becomes great again
>Literally cuck slaves to the Lich Queen
>>332664046
>>332662423
>>332661137
WHERE ARE MY FUCKING UNDEAD PALADINS
SERIOUSLY
If pretty much all of the Forsaken are former citizens of Lordaeron, and Lordaeron was Paladin capital of the world, then shouldn't there be a bunch of ex-Paladins in the Forsaken? We've seen Forsaken Undead in-game use the Light, as Holy Priests. Why can't Jim-Bob Forsaken pick up his mace and go back to being a Paladin? We've seen Evil people use the light, Undead use the light, and Undead Paladins before in-game, like one of the horsemen in Naxxramas.
So why can't we play Undead Paladins? Blizz could fluff them as Forsaken trying to regain their honour and Goodness or just cruel Forsaken bending the Light to their will.
>>332665302
>Sylvanas is found out for trying to get immortality by Varian. She kills Varian, but Greymane catches her doing it. You spend an entire zone chasing her.
>>332665230
Still, would be weird if there are no repercussions for our character, who is Deathlord of the Ebon Blade.
Maybe being under Bolvar's protection helps.
Metzen going reverse corruption
Dalaran being pretty much copy pasted over
Blizzdrones lmao
enjoy ur dogshit xpac
>>332665429
This better be true
>>332665094
DKs join Horde/Alliance out of "You gotta go with them, you're of [race] so you go to [faction], you're still ebon blade tho fucker, don't forget that."
>>332665417
Lorewise, the light can be used by the undead, but for them it has a side effect:
It hurts them.
Using shadow magic? Isn't the light, so it is fine.
But using the light for healing, and ressing, is literally AGONY to a forsaken.
Remember, Forsaken priests are bros, and they put themselves through pain and suffering to save your sorry hide.
>>332665417
>Undead Ret Paladin
>literally sets him/herself on fire the moment they grip Ashbringer
you aren't thinking this one through there chief
>>332665554
So are UD tanks (Forsaken and DK)
Demons using holy powers is nothing new.
The demons in Black Temple were no longer fel-infused, having received a new source of power from Illidan, and Sisters of Pleasure used Holy Magic.
>>332665464
>Implying anyone has the balls to fuck with you by this point in the story
Death knights were all ready top tier heros when they are first made and this is after this killed archimond the LK fought the fire lord and death wing. You are a god amongest men they aren't going to do shit. Besides canon wise every one still all ready hates Death knights with a passion.
>>332665512
Actually it was only because Tirion personally vouched for the DK player that the Alliance/Horde allowed the DK players back in.
Which makes stealing his corpse to raise him after he falls all the more odd
>>332660674
Hearthstone is all just a big what if.
>>332662423
When can i play as an Ethereal?
>>332665752
>Stealing
It's like when police raids a crack house and keeps the crack.
>>332665752
Mograine doesn't give a shit anymore
>raiding undercity
>waking up the lich king
>raising Kel'thuzad
>raiding light's hope & dragging Tirion's corpse out
>>332665512
>>332665752
It's still weird, and it forces stuff onto your character way more even than not being able to side with Garrosh's Horde.
As a Horde, especially Forsaken, DK you're basically betraying Sylvanas twice: freeing Koltira and killing Galen.
>>332665752
This is the end of the world fuck what those moralfag paladins think we need strong soldiers motherfucker plus we got the lich king and their mary sue now what the fuck are they gonna do?
>>332665610
>Undead Ret Pally
>Uses Ashbringer
>Sets self on fire
>You now have a flaming skeleton of holy wrath on your side
I believe it was you who didn't think this through
>>332665417
>>332665554
Technically, Priests just use the light. They tap into it's power. Paladins, on the other hand, are basically infused with power by the light. They are constantly powered by the light while priests just use the power when they need it.
>>332665939
There's nothing saying we bring back Kel'thuzad, it's very unlikely. We only get his Grimoire.
>>332665939
Fucking based Morgain MSGA
>>332665554
Aren't all forsaken priests shadowpriests lorewise?
>>332665939
>Someone tries to stop Mograine/Bolvar
>He's sent a whole crate of dreadlord heads
>>332661839
>un-infected of stratholme.
>literally everyone you kill in the game is infected
Tell us more.
>>332666143
Blizzard retconned it when they made undead priests playable. Undead priests can tap into the light but doing so causes them to realize that they are undead and causes immense pain.
Canonically, all undead priests are shadow.
Vindicator Boros: The vessel...it senses young Arator's presece!
High Exarch Turalyon: If you can hear this, your mother and I have an important message for you.
Alleria: For a thousand years, we have been hunting the Burning Legion across the stars.
High Exarch Turalyon: We do not expect you to forgive us for leaving, but we did it out of love for you. To ensure your safety and the survival of our world, we chose to make this sacrifice.
Alleria: We failed in the final battle, and it is unlikely we will survive. My son, we have one final message for you and the heroes of our world.
High Exarch Turalyon: The Burning Legion will come in full force to Azeroth. These armies are led by Balnazzar, Gul'dan and Kil'jaeden. These three must fall before you can hope to defeat Sargeras.
Alleria: Azeroth is the last light of hope, Arator. Fight, or all is lost.
High Exarch Turalyon: Farewell, son. May the Light guide you.
Arator: My parents risked much to send us this warning. We must act.
>>332665950
You're a Scourge first, Death Knight of the ebon blade second, horde/alliance third.
>>332666225
>>332665939
How can one undead man be so based?
>>332665845
>tfw I used to modelswap into them until WotLK
They are so fucking cool.
>>332665845
When blizzard stop being cucks and actually give us a proper race again.
>have pandas, lol. Same thing for both sides.
I still want ogres for horde, and high elves for alliance.
But that's just me.
>>332666019
But even using it harms them. Being infused I assume would hurt a whole lot more.
>>332665785
This.
A lot of things in HS are either pop culture for wow, or "what ifs"
Heck, there's king mukla and a king mukla corrupt version.
Same for the n'zoth card, which hasn't even been in the mmo yet, but he's in HS.
>>332664851
>model of a modern major general
I gotchu, senpai
>>332664259
i hear the last one is one of the bug people
>>332666273
They also said that the using the light too much can heal them.... which is pretty horrible, as in this case their lack of senses/nerve endings are the only things keeping a Forsaken from realizing several maggots have made homes inside of them.
>>332664259
Think the rumor was a troll for the last one
>>332666395
>More elves
fuck off
>>332666337
By realizing the living CANNOT take care of themselves.
>>332663871
>Alliance going to shit
>Greymane
That nigga straight up kept his people safe from the scourge and wars.
If anything Greymane is the leader the Alliance needs.
>>332666395
>But even using it harms them. Being infused I assume would hurt a whole lot more.
That was what I was saying anon.
what exactly did the scarlet crusade do wrong again
>>332666243
>not seeing arthas at the beginning of stratholme pegging uninfected humans in the head with a hammer.
C'mon, australia.
>>332664813
Nathrezim and the pitlords are the two originally formed demons. Most others are ones that the Dreadlords turned
>>332666449
That could just be part of the Thoras Trollbane questline.
>>332666503
>I'm building a wall.
>What?
>I'm building a giant, strong, impassable wall. AROUND AZEROTH. AND BANNING ALL DEMONS FROM AZEROTH, THEN DEPORTING ALL WARLOCKS.
>>332665429
Is this legit?
Way to go Blizzard, you just literally got rid of the last good thing the Horde had going for them.
>No Thrall
>No Trollchieftain.
>No Undead Bae.
>>332663763
Sounds like Greymane is standing leader of the Alliance, like how Slyvanas is standing Warchief.
Also I'm still not totally convinced that Varian is actually dead. This wouldn't even be the first time Anduin was pronunced King of Stormwind for fucks sakes
>>332666460
Care to name a legit Alliance leaning race, for me?
>Ethereals actually don't count, if they did, they'd be like pandaren.
So yeah, alliance race: go.
>>332666581
>implying they aren't infected scum
Shut up, Uther.
What I want in Legion is for Blizzard to go through all of the pre-Mists parts of the game and update all of the armor/clothes textures to the same detail as Mists and WoD, and fix them to properly fit the new models.
Oh, and update the Goblin and Worgen models, too, they really stand out against the Pandaren and updated models.
>>332664045
Wait, Tirion died?
>yfw tirion fordring is being raised as a death knight
>>332666726
Watch your tone with me, boy.
>>332666707
>Sylvanes
>Good
No you fucking heretic she was a hypocrite who only deserves death.
>>332664831
>scarlet crusade cloth items
My boner went off the charts when transmorpgrifying went online.
>>332666798
Why the fuck do you think Ret Paladins suddenly get to use Ashbringer, a weapon that so far has only been passed down when the dude using it has died.
>>332666820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWJNu-IllU
Did someone say Arthas?
>>332666764
I agree with this.
I'd be an utter SLAVE LABOUR job, but they have to.
Worgen, Goblins, they need updating
Old textures need updating
Weather needs updating
Lighting needs updating.
>>332666720
qt314 black dragon-human mix.
t. Anduin
>>332662423
Who are you on AD so I can erp u?
>>332666798
He dies during the Legion invasion, quite heroically too, mind.
Better to go out with a bang, than with a whimper.
>>332665554
They'd be hardcore paladins, burning with that holy fire smoke effect and metting out justice
>>332665845
Never :'(
>>332666975
Not saying, faggit.
You're not getting the Draenei puss.
>>332666967
See, you can't think of anything.
>>332667180
Naw dude, totally listen to him it's a good idea.
t. wrathion, just give me the pandaren artifacts and shut up.
So, what's Wrathion been up to?
>>332667180
>You're not getting the Draenei puss.
Oh god, I probably know you.
Not the guy who asked, either.
>undead paladins
>>332667180
Well if you're
>>332663641
Then hello Zaphiria or however it's spelt.
>>332666660
>Greymane will make Azeroth great again.
What a time lad.
>>332667485
Sneaking Anduin and stealing un-corrupted dragon eggs from the past.
Probably doing weird black dragon alchemy on anduin.
Warning: Anduin might have dragon eggs inside of him.
Warning2: anduin is shadow priest now.
>>332659864
are u implying that a dreadlord cannot accept jesus as his lord and savor?
>>332667496
Surprise me.
>>332667485
He's been lurking around Draenor, visited admiral taylor's garrison and vanished before the shit hit the fan.
Not much else is known.
>>332667592
[Spoiler] Well done. AD represent. [/spoiler]
>>332665467
So with the looming danger of the Burning Legion hanging over Azeroth, I bet all the Aspects are like "sure am glad we gave up all our power and immortality for that one laser blast to take out Douchewing, amirite?"
>>332667813
Well you've already spoiled it now. Although I'll admit I was wrong.
>>332665845
How would they even work with armor models?
>>332667509
undead paladins are literally the only horde race that should have them. They at least had some kind of precedent. The idea that the strength of faith could keep you sane even after death was way fucking cooler than the literal turd ideas that were "sun druids" and "blood knights"
>>332667987
I actually laughed out loud.
Welcome to Blizzard's writing.
>Also, on the new races for horde/alliance
>Horde: Quillboar/Gnoll
>Alliance: Kobold/Murloc
kek
>>332667987
Ysera is definitely thinking that right before Xavius gives her his nightmare goo
>implying the Light and Naaru aren't just manipulating races so they're easier to corrupt when they god full Void Lord
>implying A'dal isn't the real final boss
>implying Sargeras was wrong
>>332668010
>Horde
I have no spaces on my character list for Horde Characters. I have filled up o' Alliance.
Are the Nathrezim the original Eredar warlocks that were cast out eons ago? They've both got hooves and horns, they're similar in shape and size and skin colour. There are obvious differences like wings and horn shapes and all the obvious stuff, but are they from the same roots?
The lore on the old Eredar warlocks is pretty foggy and not discussed much, but I want to know more about it.
>>332668223That's me, dumdum.
>>332668223
Most alliance players cry wolf that horde is dogshit when in reality they haven't tried it enough to see they get along a lot well for guild/casual RP.
I think like every other ''RPer'' in Stormwind is a paranoid, closet ERP-fanatic though.
Is Celestial Memetation still a thing
>>332665950
Whole idea behind the class stuff in Legion is that the individual classes are saying 'man fuck all this politicizing and infighting, we have to stick together across faction lines', so it makes sense that some quest lines are essentially you saying 'fuck off horde/alliance, we do what we want'.
>>332667813
Vynrah is that you?
>>332668187
>Near the end of WoW
>Azeroth is on it's last legs
>Corrupt old gods everywhere
>Sergeras looming nearby
>Countless dead, more corrupted.
>Suddenly, a wh40k Imperial Cruiser warps in over orbit.
>Delivers exterminatus on Azeroth, and directly into Sergeras' face.
>>332668316
Nathrezim are one of the original races of demon. They were born in the nether.
>One of the characters in the Warcraft movie is simply credited as "Draenei Mother"
Soon, goatmilfs will be on the big screen.
>>332668316
The Dreadlords are one of the few races that are natively demons formed in the twisting nether. Which apparently is so chaotic because it's right between the realm of the void and light
>>332659864
WHAAAAT?!
SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK?
When they released the Old Gods Hearthstone set with Ragnaros transformed into a lightlord. I thought "Heh silly game"
Now they've done this shit in WoW?
>>332661137
Except when the Forsaken use the light it literally burns their flesh and soul and they cry in agony. It's an enemy to them.
>>332668423
No, loooong since dead.
I helped make that guild, because it was a social thing, but then it degraded and turned into a Goldshire Dwelling shitpiece.
So I managed to leave it, and convinced the leader to close it up.
I did a very good thing, I believe.
>>332668368
I dunno who you are. ;(
Also, going back to:>>332668423
Horde RP i've never really tried much, I've seen it around, but I just like my Alliance Races a bit more. The only race i'd play on Horde would be a goblin, but I suspect everyone would just treat the little guys like cunts. (just like gnomes on alliance.)
>>332667987
>Alright so we're going to give you these dragon powers to stop the apocalypse which will be created only because of a black dragon who only has powers because we gave you guys powers.
This about sums up Cata yeah?
>>332668518
>They were born in the nether.
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Quest:An_Unusual_Tome
Says otherwise, and mentions a Nathrezim homeworld.
>>332668443
no
>>332668702
Read the thread, we have covered the undead thing.
>>332666225
Where do you guys get this stuff? I probably won't play legion but is there someone on youtube doing this shit?
>>332661137
>>332659864
Reminder:
The Naaru promised "An Army of Light" for the Draenei to retake Argus. They never said what this army would be comprised of.
This is all leading up to the prophecy and the retaking of Argus expansion and facing off with the Void Lords that control the Old Gods.
>>332668721
You forgot
>ANd he did it because he sealed him underground to watch the, uh, underground and evil-bad-corrupters that live underground told him (a 6000 years old virgin/blue balled dragon) that he'd get sex slaves
>>332665845
>Don't haggle with me or my son ever again.
>>332668787
The Nathrezim homeworld has been destroyed by Illidan. Its the single greatest loss the Burning Legion has ever had.
Source is the Illidan book releasing soon.
>>332668853
That was a joke, but mostly mmo-champ.
>>332668916
Goddamnit I thought I had escaped that.
>>332668705
Goblins are pretty rampant on Horde at the moment, they're easily the most numerous, you either see them being around in Orgrimmar or they're running the enterainment in guild events.or they're massive sluts bouncing on whatever they can find
And from what I hear CT's leader was (is?) a bit insufferable, always hating on whatever is going on in the game or agreeing with the next popular thing they hear
tfw world server is down
>>332668787
>>332668993
http://wow.gamepedia.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Chronicle_Volume_1
According to this, the Nathrezim are one of the oldest races of demon directly from the nether.
>>332669213
>They are just naturally evil pricks
Fucking demons
>>332661137
so tell me lore man, why arent there forsaken paladins? Do they not will it? Then why have priests?
>>332669148
Varies. They're lovely, but then they have bouts of negativity, then bouts of happiness again, some WoW hatred here, but then HotS love here, bit of Blizz bashing there, but praising them for Overwatch.
It's something i've pretty much come to understand, by this point.
>>332668705
>I dunno who you are. ;(
For shame.
>>332669148
>they're easily the most numerous
Next to blood elves, you mean.
>>332664259
Fuck yes. Death Knightsbridge finally getting some nontrivial story relevance again, Cata and MOP felt so weird as a DK
Like okay Garrosh, necromancy is awful and the forsaken blight is horrific, but you're totally cool with my ghoul, Geist, and army of the dead, and all the grossly painful shit I do when unholy or blood specced?
Oh hi simple farmer, yes I will go deal with the manifestation of negative emotion. By feeding it to soulless dead and blighting the land under me.
Oh those pesky wabbits are eating your crops? Don't worry, Im sure a soul stealing runeblade is a perfectly appropriate response to this threat. Yep.
Dread Wastes and Isle of Thunder were the only areas I didn't feel hilariously out of place. Warlords was a mess and I found myself wondering what the fuck I was even there for past the suicide mission, which was fitting for the class.
I'm not a big fan of the mechanics blizzard wants to emphasize for unholy, festering wounds look lame and putting more of our damage on pets and passive dots makes me feel less powerful, not more. Not to mention they'll just get shackled or turned in pvp.
New blood shit looks cool, axe artifact not my thing. Frost being dual wield only is lame.
>>332668038
Is that a problem? Armor models are applied from gnomes to taurens, it doesn't look that hard to put them on what is basically a tall shiny human
>>332666948
>Weather needs updating
This, I feel like the weather stopped working in BC and then they forgot about it.
>>332669306
I'd say it's a lore thing, as being a paladin is quite a hardcore thing to undertake, if you're undead yourself, but it's also a racial/class balance thing.
Technically, mathematically, taking ALL races and ALL classes into balance consideration, the one missing race/class combo is.
*Drumroll*
Gnome Paladins.
>>332669306
Most people who are that hardcore into the light can't be raised unless there's fancy circumstances
>>332669338
Fair enough, they just get real jarring in the DN channel, all that banning was a headache and I'm fairly convinced theyhave such absurd standards it's just a plea to feel like they get attention when people might whisper them for lewds just so they can turn them down
>>332668045
>there will never be WC2 spellcaster DKs or vanilla DK armors in WoW
Why even live?
>>332669157
>tfw you aren't in the alpha
whats it like
>>332669503
It still works, I was in STV the other day and it started raining. I think the problem is a lack of it in expansion zones and moving fast (ie: flying) means you tend to miss it.
>Still doing nothing outside of books
>>332669429
Yeah, though the AD blood elf guilds seem to have a circle where they all meet up once every few months for a ''REMEMBER MUH SCOURGE INVASION'' event, don't see many except the anime-tier roleplayed ones in Orgrimmar.
I made friends with some belf paladin OOC whilst doing some cross-faction event, then I realised they were one of those ''If you aren't part of my group/clique i'll ignore you during RP'' sorts and had this really irritating permavirgin following her ICly 24/7
>>332669595
Kind of surprised DKs haven't got the mouth scarf for a helm yet
>>332669551
Alexandros Mograine sure didn't need anything fancy and he was the original wielder of the Ashbringer and one of the last members of the Silver Hand.
If that's not "hardcore into the light" I really don't know what is.
>>332669562
They're INCREDIBLY picky.
I love 'em to bits, don't get me wrong.
But they can be a right pain in the ass too, depends on what side of the bed they got out of.
>>332669306
As has already been stated multiple times, using the Light causes pain to forsaken. Priests simply use the light when they cast a spell. There are holy/disc undead priests but they're considered to have the strongest will power in the entire race because of how much pain using the Light causes. It causes pain on the soul level.
Paladins are infused with the light 24/7. They don't tap into the light to use a spell. They bring the light that is constantly within them out to cast spells. That is why undead can't be paladins.
WoW getting so crazy I HAVE TO RESUB
>>332669705
>don't see many except the anime-tier roleplayed ones in Orgrimmar.
They're usually out and about for the events on Kalimdor, and spending a week in Orgrimmar the week before and after such events. But yeah, otherwise they're no-shows.
>>332665429
Aren't undead already immortal
>>332669745
Paladins can be raised as undead. Don't know what you're talking about. Mograine isn't an undead paladin. He's a death knight. What are you on about?
>>332669863
>Paladins are infused with the light 24/7
But a holy priest, who becomes a literal spirit of light and healing after death, to heal and mend the wounds of their allies, isn't infused with the light 24/7?
So please, Reacherella, where did you get your argument material from?
>>332670017
No they can die and when they die again they are doom to hell
>>332669806
Yeah, I remember there was some trump talk and they voiced how stupid people are to vote for him.
Then some night elf spoke about how he wasn't that bad and 2minutes later they're like ''Why wouldn't you vote for him? Would you vote for Hilary instead?'' lmao
I just don't have it in me to be that accepting to those sorts of people I guess, far too many on AD I end up meeting
>>332669745
His faith was destroyed by the betrayal from his son
>>332670017
They deteriorate mentally, to the point that they're basically the mindless undead wandering around Tirisfal Glades.
>>332670105
Are you using game mechanics to argue about lore? Do you believe that mages only have one specialization like they do in WoW?
>>332663804
Holy demons.
>>332666913
AM I?
*clap*
>>332668045
I agree with you on everything except the last part. Blood Knights are cool, it's just that Blood Elves themselves look fucking awful in-game, and that ruins them.
>>332670070
See >>332669551
>Most people who are that hardcore into the light can't be raised unless there's fancy circumstances
Regardless of whatever fucking class he was raised as, Paladin, Death Knight, Couch Fucker, Alexandros Mograine, who is "hardcore into the light" was raised like any other fucking tool.
>>332669910
This is a reason why I stopped playing FFXIV.
Wow may have meh gameplay
Wow may also have meh rp tools
Wow may also even have meh lore at times...
But I love it, and all the races and varations by FAR over FFXIV's RP scene.
It's like every character attempts to be a special snowflake, a main character in their own Anime.
All the Roegadyn are Yorkshiremen
All the Roegadyn women who are hellsguard are bulldykes
All the Catboys and Catgirls are Kawaii desu
All the Lalafel are loli
All the Au'ra are Catboy/catgirl tier
Hyur (humans) are varied, but it still degrades into Anime wannaebee weeaboo shitposting.
It's dire, and utterly boring. Everything feels the same.
I hit 60, did the raids, finished the endgame, rped for around a week and got sick of it.
>DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON HOW EVERYONE IS A TUMBLRINA
>FFXIV DARKNEST CHAT IS FILLED WITH "PRONOUNS" AND "GENDER STERYOTYPE TALK"
Is it confirmed that Varian dies? As in real deal no i was merely pretending shit that is too often used in this shitty game.
Because if yes thats it for me finally.
>>332670375
This, I started it and a bunch of my WoW buds followed suit. I tried something different by playing some Roegadyn BLM but everyone on Baldung thought I was some unique female when apparently every roegadyn is a dmitrys futabitch or some cringey shit.
This is why I wanted an Ivalice MMO, instead we have something that appeals to weebs to a ludicrous extent, even for FF standards. PS3/4 plebs really fuck it up too.
>>332670375
>Wow may also have meh rp tools
GHI is bretty gud when it actually works.
>>DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON HOW EVERYONE IS A TUMBLRINA
Now I kinda want to give it a try, if only for the sake of building a community of people who're less snowflake and more characters in a story.
I built my own community and integrated it pretty well into the rest of the Horde.
>>332669440
I'm loving the Unholy Artifact skins, but this Blood axe skin is pretty swell.
>>332664689
Of course it is.
>>332670453
He will be dying, yes. Quest log text was datamined.
Just gettin my doomhammer
>>332669706
Problem is that stuff is part of the general model, it's not gear.
>>332659864
https://youtu.be/1YVrxFmheSc
>>332670673
post unholys
>>332669706
Isn't that pretty close to T18 DK Armor
>>332670749
Still think it's retarded that Enhance gets it instead of Elemental. Elemental is more in-tune with the elements than Enhance is and it'd be fucking amazing to see Shamans casting lightning bolts and chain lightnings from Doomhammer itself.
>>332670673
HOOOOOOO!
anything happening with Arthas in legion? I'm still eternally butthurt that Illidan gets a redemption story, but Arthas suffers in the WC version of hell. Despite it being his will that the undead didn't #rekt all life on Azeroth.
>>332670904
Still images don't do them justice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r16lx5aytKc
But here's an extra skin that isn't in the video.
>>332670618
>>332670617
My character was a roegadyn chick, but her class/rp role was so... otherworldly compared to most, it just seemed so out of place
I felt unable to mingle in with everyone else.
>>332670714
>assuming quest log text is confirming of his death despite there not being any proof of a body yet
we won't know until the broken shore is playable dude.
Varian dies butLo'gosh lives
>>332671119
I think Frost DK's kill his soul in their artifact quest
>>332671119
Arthas is dead you stupid speedreader.
>>332671183
>I felt unable to mingle in with everyone else
Does the game require a sub? I could give it a go once we're done with events this week.
>>332659864
Wait that's a dreadlord i thought it was a eredar or some shit where are his wings?
>>332670938
god this set is such shit
>>332671119
Frost DK artifact acquisition quest purges his soul from the shards of Frostmourne.
